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Every gun owner should become a marksman. (Why miss?) Every marksman should be proficient as a gunfighter. (Why lose?) Every gunfighter should ready themselves to become a warfighter. (Why not?) In Minecraft.
@@trench_grenadethey donate to anti2A organizations.. but you undoubtedly know that and just dgaf 😂 but it has to be said. Pete's coffee used to be my favorite untill I found out they do the same 🐂 💩. So now it's Brutal Awakening from Blackout Coffee. Oh and my rifles ARE zeroed so I dodged your comment and qualify for the anti commie coffee rant!
@@trench_grenadeknow what else is on your way to the gym? Your kitchen counter! Get a coffee pot and brew quality shit from a reputable pro American brand! Many podcasts or groups have their own brand of beans as a means to show support for the general cause. A little goes a long way, hence why I'm a patreon to you, because I believe in what little I can send goes a long way to you.
🍺 I just got back from a 4 mile LARP in the woods and took shots out to 450ish. I took my time zeroing long ago and my rifle is extremely well zeroed at 100 per my BDC reticle, which is accurate out to the 500 I've been able to shoot to so far. My red dot/iron sight weapons are 50/200 tweaked to be dead on at 200.
@@dogevanzandt2889Lol. Yes, I am aware of my height over bore. Using 1.93" riser on my prism with a piggyback red dot. Though I didn't feel the need to mention it.
The idea of shooting 5 rounds, getting up and go for another 5 before adjusting is fantastic. I zerod my rifle in minecraft and it was a bitch because i would make an adjustment after every 5 rounds and the point of impact was moving all the time. Now that i think of it, i was changing my shooting position each time i raised my cheek and adjusted and what i thought were the right adjustments were slighlty off... Turns out it was me not double checking by doing two separate groups before each adjustment. Hell yeah brother keep up the good info! Thanks!
I like LPVO's if shooting at significant distances. For most urban combat I agree a red dot + magnifier is ideal. The officer who shot the Tennessee school shooter had a LPVO on his rifle, didn't seem to hinder him. I have a red dot mounted above mine, so I can do both. I use an LPVO on my DSM rifle, because that's going to be for distance mostly. I have multiple rifles that are red dot/magnifier combos. But I will be interested to hear why you think they suck so bad.
Point blank zero is the way to go for damn near all the fuds I know. Most think 100 yds is a long shot. PBzero can be different for the intended use of each particular rifle (i.e. 300BLK for HD). Muzzle velocity, the target size you want to use (i.e. 10") and cartridge b.c.
I zero for 100. 2" drop at 200 and for 300 aim at the neck to drop them in the chest. Only need to remember hold overs and the most common engagement distances are poa=poi. Cqb is the typical HOB that most ar setups have. Very simple setup. Tight zero and i train often. If you zero irons and then cowitness a red dot, the glass will shift your zero on the irons when looking through it. Know that offset
You might want to mention the placement on the rail. The optic must be on the upper receiver, generally somewhere over the ejection port cover. I've seen too many times where people overlap the receiver / rail, or even mount it on the actual rail itself. Scopes should be mounted for eye relief and access to the charging handle = back of optic or magnifier should be no further back than the charging handle.
🍺 i have always zeroed as close to 100 yards as i could have. It's just how my dad and i did it. My ar right now is 0'd at 80yds, w/16 inches and 62 grains right now. Sometimes i will bore sight it as best i can if i can't get to the range. Feel pretty good about it. Last rifle i bore sighted (no laser) was within 5 inches at 100 yds.
Present optic is a stop-gap until i get the scope i want. At that point i plan to run it through a calculator to see what will get me a 200 m zero. I dont personally want the ACW red dot in using right now for a do- everything rifle, but i buy-once-cry-once'd on this gun so it's going to be a few more paychecks before i get an optic that's worthy of the rifle. Until then, i cannibalized a romeo 7 from another lower end AR i had.
I'm glad you took your time to explain this concept. I learned about it years ago, but it took me watching a few people's videos to fully grasp just how all this works, to the point where I can teach other new shooters the concept here.
In 74 the army zeroed at 25 meters with 3 shot groups. I somehow figured out that if I aimed at the point the target disappeared behind the berm, I always knocked the target down. I knew nothing about balistics in those days and the army did not teach it to us airborne red legs.
Yes definitely make a video why lpvos suck. I’m currently running a PA lpvo. The owners manual says to zero at 100 yards. When shooting 55 gr. Out of a 16 inch barrel. And that is to match to my bdc “acss”. It’s not my only system. But it’s the one I got the most time on.
Thank you for all your videos they sure have amped up over the past few weeks. I appreciate and enjoy them all. You are a great instructor. Everything is well spoken well thought . I hope we have much more time. May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you safe in Jesus name.
A good marksman can deal with whatever he's given, even with no adjustments, so long as some pre-event use occurs and nothing changes on the rifle. The true moral of the story is get used to what you have, and make the best of it whenever possible.
🍻🍺 I zeroed my rifle just using the trex arms zeroing target. Red dot @ 100yds pretty much the right way tho. Going to the range this weekend and going to switch to 50-200
I now have 2 unzeroed guns. I gave my son one of my old 512s for his christmas present and pulled an optic off a rarely used AR to replace the 512. Got his gun zeroed Sunday but were fighting daylight and didnt get to mine.
🍺Damn Trench, slow down with these! You're making the rest of us guntubers/preptubers look bad. Been running BSZ 50/200 for years. I start with a mag muzzle-mounted laser sighter, then dial in/confirm with groups downrange. Your video will definitely help me better systematize, though!
Definitely referring to this video when I need to zero my rifle again. You’re a great teacher trench. Currently saving up for a prism optic because of my astigmatism, my red dot always looks like an amorphous blob that keeps changing slightly as I shoot making it so difficult for me to get a perfect zero, annoying af
My rifle has a 100 yard zero right now and it works pretty well with the Griffin mil reticle and my duty ammo. I still check zero every now and then when I go to the range.
Ordering the last part of my rifle tomorrow when my credit card payment cycle starts over (I use credit for cash back only, I treat it like cash and never pay more than is in my bank account and never carry a balance). I will follow this to zero mine.
🍺I utilized a video by Trex Arms for my last 'adjustment' to my zeroing procedure. Before that, it was another video by Reid Hendricks. I really do enjoy hearing different people's perspectives on a process. Everyone explains things slightly differently and there's something to learn from everyone. Thanks for the video! My 15 is sighted in for a 50 yard, while my 10 is so far only sighted in at 25. Haven't gotten to the outdoor range to confirm. I was thinking to have both at a 50/200.
🍺 Just to get it out of the way, "it depends" (the why happens throughout the process and starts at the beginning before I even buy a single part: what is the pews intended purpose?) From there I select and start acquiring the necessary components according to said purpose. Take the propper time to assemble and mount things (a wise man once said "if you can't make the time to do it right the first time how are you going to find the time to do it over?"). Once at the range I'll set up a stable and repeatable platform, get on paper and then get a rough zero at 50. (Heres where "it depends" really starts to come into play.) Depending on the sighting system I will differ to the users manual because different optics (primarily ones with a BDC) are designed with a round type and distance in mind to make the rest of the reticle "test condition" accurate. READ YOUR MANUALS PEOPLE, it'll save you time and headache. I'll get a rough zero at the corresponding manuals stated distance using 10 rounds of slow fire, make adjustments for actual zero during a break and then another 10 rounds to confirm. Next I will try a variety of ammo (10 rounds each) to check if the barrel just really likes/dislikes certain ones while also using a chronograph for gathering data. If there is a huge difference between the best and the next runner up than thats the primary ammo that goes with that platform and I may adjust its intended purpose accordingly at that time (ie if it really likes 55gr .223 but hates everything else than I may have to swap optics, rezero and make it a "closer in" platform than if it had liked 77gr). If groupings are similar enough I will re-finalize zero with the ammo that best corresponds to the platforms purpose. Next, pull out the ballistic calculator and enter in the platform/ammo data to check near/far zeros and drop for every 50 (starting at 50 and going to 450 because that's the furthest within hours of me and the distance suits my needs for my current AO). I'll hold zero and confirm and record drop at each distance with 5 round groups, then (if applicable) I'll hold based on the reticles BDC to confirm its accuracy. I'm also a big nerd (goes with being legit diagnosed severe OCD) so I'll also check up to an additional 4 of the next most intended use load types for drop holding zero from 50 out to at least 300 with 5 rounds each. For irons I'll repeat a similar process with some exceptions. Once I've figured which ammo to use with the platform I'll use the ballistic calculator to figure the Maximum Point Blank zero, set up a target at the supposed near distance for zero, then confirm at the far distance and make any notes applicable. Then check point of impact holding that zero every 50 out to one leg of 50 past the far zero (ie if the far zero was 270 than I'd go every 50 out to 300). I keep a DOPE of each pew and ammo combo including temp, humidity, pressure and other weather conditions. I've found being meticulous up front saves a lot of headache in the long run. Even with the initial investment of time and ammo being much higher than most people use i e found it still more than pays off over time just in fine tuning/forced rezeroing trips, and even quicker and more so if you confirm zero real quick before each range/training trip (even with as little as 3 rounds per). If you read through all that reply with a ⌚ because you took the time. If it was at all helpful to anyone for zeroing or getting motivated to zero your own stuff reply with a 🤜. Carry on.
❤ Slacking 🍻 My access to 200yd range... Small rear aperture, front post 'six on 10" bullseye. Average of ten shot group for sight change.. sandbag support for 101%$tability.. It work$ (there's 1click windage difference between my wife and I on the Colt20"HBAR... 😅 IT CHEATS GOOD, we rely on it as zeroed. And my 12-year-old is starting to take an interest in trying it out.. her 22 rimfire AR has been 'easy to shoot' with a red. We zero for groups on paper at 50 yards.. I set the irons for groups at 100 yd 😅 It's fun and cheap to shoot.. Thanks Trench, more PT. We believe in more PT as a family..
This method was taight to me by 5th Group Dude about 10 or 12 years ago. This is what they would do to get 50Y zero . Obviously they would still confirm the zero at 50Y but this how i was taught to make sure your 100% on paper when you get 50Y.. Draw 1" dot on piece of paper , then draw another 1" dot 1.9" below . Make sure they are perfectly right underneath each other and not off center. You will set this target up at 10Y . Aim at the top 1" dot and you should fix your sights until you are perfectly impacting on the bottom 1" dot which is located 1.9" below . This is what they called hasty 50Y zero . Obviously go to 50Y so you can confirm and make any other adjustments needed . You should be pretty darn close but you'll still need to make adjustments. He also taught me for 100Y zero you can draw 2" dot , then draw another 2" dot 1.4" below . Set the target at 25Y and aim for the top dot and impact on the bottom dot . These methods are really just to get you on paper faster at 50Y or 100Y zeros . Ive never not been on paper when using these methods .
@@amosmoses9247 Center not edges . You can use whatever you want 1" dot or 1" box . This method is to get you on paper since trying to zero at 50Y or 100Y is tougher without bore sighting / laser. Do not over think this . Some one about 5 years made the targets that you can print off for these methods. There are other variables why this would never be exact due to height over bore . Meaning this is recommended for LOWER 1/3 Co Witness Height over bore . I've never figured out what it would be with 1.93 or 2 26 height because this method is intended to make sure your on paper . I usually use 6" or 8" shoot and see target when doing my actual zero . I just piece of paper or cardboard for the 50Y Zero shot at 10Y or the 100Y zero shot at 25Y . Like I said these methods are to get for sure on paper at 50Y or 100Y . If you have Laser Boresight you can do these at home before you even go to the range . Using 50Y zero when shooting at 100Y you will impact 1/2 Mil High . When using 100Y zero shooting at 50Y you will impact 1/2 Mil Low .
🍺 running PA 1-6 variables and 3 X which are zeroed at 100 for the ACSS. Run the PA 1-6 guns a lot out from 100 to 500 yards shooting steel. Dialed in with 77 SMK and 168 gr SMK on AR10. Got one iron sight carbine that is 25 -300 meter BZO
I've zeroed my optic and magnifier at the range the weekend they came in like, forever ago. Got the red dot sighted in on my pistol the day I got it mounted. 🍻
Now that's a good one and makes sense. To send it to the front of the Pic slot. Never herd that one before. Hand tight? Well I'm jacked cuz, so I need to use a torque wrench so i dont break it.
🍺 ⚜️ Three groups (fifteen rounds total) 200m. First group - check. Adjust elev, then winds. Second group sent. Check - adjust elev then winds. Final group should be zero. If not with one inch group then a fail and restart. (Which suxs)
Red dots should be zeroed at 50 yards. Confirmed at 200. LPVO's, if BDC reticle, should be zeroed at the manufacturer's recommendation so you can optimize the reticle. If a straight up MOA or a MIL reticle, zero at 200 and do the math for the rest. 200 yd zero will give you a great POA/POI from muzzle to about 230 yds.
Sights & Trigger That's the most concise explanation. Trying to shoot 100 points off hand 🔥 with 10 shots, requires learning certain things... Your best shots will accept your own motion and swing through time for trigger break! At the right moment of sight to target 🎯 connection... And as you regulate your breathing and your timing and all that good s***, don't forget, don't look through your sites for more than about 8 seconds😂... Most people, never take the time to actually line up their eyes with a small bullseye at 200 yards... Barely larger than their front post... Doing it 10 times off hand 🔥 I tried to 'compete' with my fellow rifleman, 😢 barely putting up 70 points on best days... I blame the rifle, not holding 🍺zero 🥽
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🍺 waiting on the front mbus on the new pew and will definitely use this method. Probably 36yd stupid zero ha. Couldn’t find em at any local shops. Guys all said people were buying em for stocking stuffers
My rifle was🎯 as soon as I got it. If you dont have it zeroed in (properly) within 24hrs of owning it, you dont have a rifle. You have a xtra loud cap gun.🍺
🍻 only time i've zeroed my rifle was at an indoor range, zeroed at 25. was all i had, and if i remember right it was "good enough" ive not been shooting in a minute. im slackin.
I don’t drink but wanna supposed the channel lol beck and n the day o struggled zeroing my glass and now I can do it in under 10 rounds lol now I’m into zeroing IR lasers
Base layer tan Alternate stripe movement with brown and green Let dry Flip to other side Repeat. Let dry completely This is a simple pattern. Be patient with taping off things like your ejection port, barrel, optic, magwell, etc.
Just sent a new ACOG TA32RCOA4 back for warranty, it was having windage issues. After about two mags or so, the shots shifted left and stayed shifted even after adjustment. It wasn't the mount, since the piggyback RMR was zeroed.
Every gun owner should become a marksman. (Why miss?)
Every marksman should be proficient as a gunfighter. (Why lose?)
Every gunfighter should ready themselves to become a warfighter. (Why not?)
In Minecraft.
“How can you support Starbucks?”
“Your rifle isn’t even zeroed…”😂🍺
Now that I’ve got me rifle zero’d, how could you drink that Starbucks?
It’s on the way to gym
@@trench_grenadethey donate to anti2A organizations.. but you undoubtedly know that and just dgaf 😂 but it has to be said. Pete's coffee used to be my favorite untill I found out they do the same 🐂 💩. So now it's Brutal Awakening from Blackout Coffee. Oh and my rifles ARE zeroed so I dodged your comment and qualify for the anti commie coffee rant!
@@trench_grenadeknow what else is on your way to the gym? Your kitchen counter! Get a coffee pot and brew quality shit from a reputable pro American brand! Many podcasts or groups have their own brand of beans as a means to show support for the general cause. A little goes a long way, hence why I'm a patreon to you, because I believe in what little I can send goes a long way to you.
@@trench_grenadefuck that
@@trench_grenadethey help pay to kill babies for their employees and your supporting it 😒
🍺 I just got back from a 4 mile LARP in the woods and took shots out to 450ish. I took my time zeroing long ago and my rifle is extremely well zeroed at 100 per my BDC reticle, which is accurate out to the 500 I've been able to shoot to so far.
My red dot/iron sight weapons are 50/200 tweaked to be dead on at 200.
Did you take your height over bore into account?
Rhetorical question, because if you did you'd have felt the need to tell us. Just another regard.
@@dogevanzandt2889Lol. Yes, I am aware of my height over bore. Using 1.93" riser on my prism with a piggyback red dot. Though I didn't feel the need to mention it.
@@Kycirion glad you know it now.
The idea of shooting 5 rounds, getting up and go for another 5 before adjusting is fantastic. I zerod my rifle in minecraft and it was a bitch because i would make an adjustment after every 5 rounds and the point of impact was moving all the time.
Now that i think of it, i was changing my shooting position each time i raised my cheek and adjusted and what i thought were the right adjustments were slighlty off... Turns out it was me not double checking by doing two separate groups before each adjustment. Hell yeah brother keep up the good info! Thanks!
FWIW from an IT guy. My acog manual said get the mount finger tight then use a screwdriver to do a 1/4 turn
🍺 just bought my first ar looking for a good zero. Thanks for the continuous videos
Absolutely
@@webanononly if people let it happen
I like LPVO's if shooting at significant distances. For most urban combat I agree a red dot + magnifier is ideal. The officer who shot the Tennessee school shooter had a LPVO on his rifle, didn't seem to hinder him. I have a red dot mounted above mine, so I can do both. I use an LPVO on my DSM rifle, because that's going to be for distance mostly. I have multiple rifles that are red dot/magnifier combos. But I will be interested to hear why you think they suck so bad.
ive always liked the 36yd ever since shawn ryan did the video on it unless its a carry handle 20inch or bdc reticle0 its just always worked
That doesn't work for every gun and every load. Iirc, it's for M193 from a 10.5" or 16".
If it works for you don’t change it
Point blank zero is the way to go for damn near all the fuds I know. Most think 100 yds is a long shot. PBzero can be different for the intended use of each particular rifle (i.e. 300BLK for HD). Muzzle velocity, the target size you want to use (i.e. 10") and cartridge b.c.
I zero for 100. 2" drop at 200 and for 300 aim at the neck to drop them in the chest. Only need to remember hold overs and the most common engagement distances are poa=poi. Cqb is the typical HOB that most ar setups have. Very simple setup. Tight zero and i train often.
If you zero irons and then cowitness a red dot, the glass will shift your zero on the irons when looking through it. Know that offset
You might want to mention the placement on the rail. The optic must be on the upper receiver, generally somewhere over the ejection port cover.
I've seen too many times where people overlap the receiver / rail, or even mount it on the actual rail itself.
Scopes should be mounted for eye relief and access to the charging handle = back of optic or magnifier should be no further back than the charging handle.
🍺 i have always zeroed as close to 100 yards as i could have. It's just how my dad and i did it. My ar right now is 0'd at 80yds, w/16 inches and 62 grains right now.
Sometimes i will bore sight it as best i can if i can't get to the range. Feel pretty good about it. Last rifle i bore sighted (no laser) was within 5 inches at 100 yds.
Not recommended
Present optic is a stop-gap until i get the scope i want. At that point i plan to run it through a calculator to see what will get me a 200 m zero.
I dont personally want the ACW red dot in using right now for a do- everything rifle, but i buy-once-cry-once'd on this gun so it's going to be a few more paychecks before i get an optic that's worthy of the rifle.
Until then, i cannibalized a romeo 7 from another lower end AR i had.
Man, that is an absolute gold mine of information...
I'm glad you took your time to explain this concept. I learned about it years ago, but it took me watching a few people's videos to fully grasp just how all this works, to the point where I can teach other new shooters the concept here.
Im the 36 yard zero your mom said we have at home, what ever works for you rock on🤘🤘
In 74 the army zeroed at 25 meters with 3 shot groups. I somehow figured out that if I aimed at the point the target disappeared behind the berm, I always knocked the target down. I knew nothing about balistics in those days and the army did not teach it to us airborne red legs.
I am a failure with an un zeroed rifle.
Ten push-ups buddy
🍺My rifle was not "zeroed" per se. I did have the gun store sort of zero it for me at their range. This is a big help. Thank you!
Great tip on go past and back and tap to make sure pin is in detent!🍻
🍻, 50/200 yard zero on all my 5.56 , 100 yard on my 308 AR.
Yes please I was planning on getting a lpvo next paycheck
This is the first time I hear about tapping the adjustment nob on the sight to set the zero. This is the type advice we need to hear.
🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Yes definitely make a video why lpvos suck.
I’m currently running a PA lpvo. The owners manual says to zero at 100 yards. When shooting 55 gr. Out of a 16 inch barrel. And that is to match to my bdc “acss”. It’s not my only system. But it’s the one I got the most time on.
The constant disses toward the fudds and wannabe know it alls are great. Thanks for all your work here and putting out this great content.
🍻🍺 I finally got an ar today this was my second video I watched first was how to break it down and clean it thanks for all u do trench
Thank you for all your videos they sure have amped up over the past few weeks. I appreciate and enjoy them all. You are a great instructor. Everything is well spoken well thought . I hope we have much more time. May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you safe in Jesus name.
🍺🍻 I zeroed mine years ago on a 25-yard range. It's due/over due to be rezeroed since I had cataract surgery. I have A2 iron sights.
A good marksman can deal with whatever he's given, even with no adjustments, so long as some pre-event use occurs and nothing changes on the rifle. The true moral of the story is get used to what you have, and make the best of it whenever possible.
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I zeroed my rifle just using the trex arms zeroing target. Red dot @ 100yds pretty much the right way tho.
Going to the range this weekend and going to switch to 50-200
I now have 2 unzeroed guns. I gave my son one of my old 512s for his christmas present and pulled an optic off a rarely used AR to replace the 512. Got his gun zeroed Sunday but were fighting daylight and didnt get to mine.
These videos get better every time!
We zeroed at 25 meters , using the 300 meter post, on our ACOGs. 🍻
Correct
Trench is out here dressed like Canderous Ordo
🍺Damn Trench, slow down with these! You're making the rest of us guntubers/preptubers look bad.
Been running BSZ 50/200 for years. I start with a mag muzzle-mounted laser sighter, then dial in/confirm with groups downrange. Your video will definitely help me better systematize, though!
Definitely referring to this video when I need to zero my rifle again. You’re a great teacher trench. Currently saving up for a prism optic because of my astigmatism, my red dot always looks like an amorphous blob that keeps changing slightly as I shoot making it so difficult for me to get a perfect zero, annoying af
Sawed off is zero'd. Now what? 😊
Another good video. 🤙🏾 Keep 'em coming.
50/200. Im an old 11b paratrooper myself. Bravo co. 2/58 class of 97.
My rifle has a 100 yard zero right now and it works pretty well with the Griffin mil reticle and my duty ammo. I still check zero every now and then when I go to the range.
Excellent Point about Confirming your Zero!
Ordering the last part of my rifle tomorrow when my credit card payment cycle starts over (I use credit for cash back only, I treat it like cash and never pay more than is in my bank account and never carry a balance). I will follow this to zero mine.
🍺I utilized a video by Trex Arms for my last 'adjustment' to my zeroing procedure. Before that, it was another video by Reid Hendricks. I really do enjoy hearing different people's perspectives on a process. Everyone explains things slightly differently and there's something to learn from everyone. Thanks for the video! My 15 is sighted in for a 50 yard, while my 10 is so far only sighted in at 25. Haven't gotten to the outdoor range to confirm. I was thinking to have both at a 50/200.
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Just to get it out of the way, "it depends" (the why happens throughout the process and starts at the beginning before I even buy a single part: what is the pews intended purpose?)
From there I select and start acquiring the necessary components according to said purpose. Take the propper time to assemble and mount things (a wise man once said "if you can't make the time to do it right the first time how are you going to find the time to do it over?").
Once at the range I'll set up a stable and repeatable platform, get on paper and then get a rough zero at 50.
(Heres where "it depends" really starts to come into play.)
Depending on the sighting system I will differ to the users manual because different optics (primarily ones with a BDC) are designed with a round type and distance in mind to make the rest of the reticle "test condition" accurate. READ YOUR MANUALS PEOPLE, it'll save you time and headache.
I'll get a rough zero at the corresponding manuals stated distance using 10 rounds of slow fire, make adjustments for actual zero during a break and then another 10 rounds to confirm.
Next I will try a variety of ammo (10 rounds each) to check if the barrel just really likes/dislikes certain ones while also using a chronograph for gathering data. If there is a huge difference between the best and the next runner up than thats the primary ammo that goes with that platform and I may adjust its intended purpose accordingly at that time (ie if it really likes 55gr .223 but hates everything else than I may have to swap optics, rezero and make it a "closer in" platform than if it had liked 77gr).
If groupings are similar enough I will re-finalize zero with the ammo that best corresponds to the platforms purpose.
Next, pull out the ballistic calculator and enter in the platform/ammo data to check near/far zeros and drop for every 50 (starting at 50 and going to 450 because that's the furthest within hours of me and the distance suits my needs for my current AO).
I'll hold zero and confirm and record drop at each distance with 5 round groups, then (if applicable) I'll hold based on the reticles BDC to confirm its accuracy.
I'm also a big nerd (goes with being legit diagnosed severe OCD) so I'll also check up to an additional 4 of the next most intended use load types for drop holding zero from 50 out to at least 300 with 5 rounds each.
For irons I'll repeat a similar process with some exceptions. Once I've figured which ammo to use with the platform I'll use the ballistic calculator to figure the Maximum Point Blank zero, set up a target at the supposed near distance for zero, then confirm at the far distance and make any notes applicable. Then check point of impact holding that zero every 50 out to one leg of 50 past the far zero (ie if the far zero was 270 than I'd go every 50 out to 300).
I keep a DOPE of each pew and ammo combo including temp, humidity, pressure and other weather conditions.
I've found being meticulous up front saves a lot of headache in the long run. Even with the initial investment of time and ammo being much higher than most people use i e found it still more than pays off over time just in fine tuning/forced rezeroing trips, and even quicker and more so if you confirm zero real quick before each range/training trip (even with as little as 3 rounds per).
If you read through all that reply with a ⌚ because you took the time. If it was at all helpful to anyone for zeroing or getting motivated to zero your own stuff reply with a 🤜.
Carry on.
Great video , love the content.
Im sticking with my superior 36 yard zero though 🍺 🍻 ✌️
Non-zeroed Fudd here. Working on it from an anti-gun home.
❤ Slacking 🍻
My access to 200yd range... Small rear aperture, front post 'six on 10" bullseye. Average of ten shot group for sight change.. sandbag support for 101%$tability..
It work$ (there's 1click windage difference between my wife and I on the Colt20"HBAR... 😅 IT CHEATS GOOD, we rely on it as zeroed. And my 12-year-old is starting to take an interest in trying it out.. her 22 rimfire AR has been 'easy to shoot' with a red. We zero for groups on paper at 50 yards.. I set the irons for groups at 100 yd
😅 It's fun and cheap to shoot.. Thanks Trench, more PT. We believe in more PT as a family..
This method was taight to me by 5th Group Dude about 10 or 12 years ago. This is what they would do to get 50Y zero . Obviously they would still confirm the zero at 50Y but this how i was taught to make sure your 100% on paper when you get 50Y..
Draw 1" dot on piece of paper , then draw another 1" dot 1.9" below . Make sure they are perfectly right underneath each other and not off center. You will set this target up at 10Y . Aim at the top 1" dot and you should fix your sights until you are perfectly impacting on the bottom 1" dot which is located 1.9" below .
This is what they called hasty 50Y zero . Obviously go to 50Y so you can confirm and make any other adjustments needed . You should be pretty darn close but you'll still need to make adjustments.
He also taught me for 100Y zero you can draw 2" dot , then draw another 2" dot 1.4" below . Set the target at 25Y and aim for the top dot and impact on the bottom dot .
These methods are really just to get you on paper faster at 50Y or 100Y zeros . Ive never not been on paper when using these methods .
@seanwhite304
Is the 1.4" and 1.9" measurements the distance between the edges of the two circles?
@@amosmoses9247 Center not edges .
You can use whatever you want 1" dot or 1" box .
This method is to get you on paper since trying to zero at 50Y or 100Y is tougher without bore sighting / laser.
Do not over think this .
Some one about 5 years made the targets that you can print off for these methods.
There are other variables why this would never be exact due to height over bore . Meaning this is recommended for LOWER 1/3 Co Witness Height over bore . I've never figured out what it would be with 1.93 or 2 26 height because this method is intended to make sure your on paper . I usually use 6" or 8" shoot and see target when doing my actual zero . I just piece of paper or cardboard for the 50Y Zero shot at 10Y or the 100Y zero shot at 25Y .
Like I said these methods are to get for sure on paper at 50Y or 100Y . If you have Laser Boresight you can do these at home before you even go to the range .
Using 50Y zero when shooting at 100Y you will impact 1/2 Mil High . When using 100Y zero shooting at 50Y you will impact 1/2 Mil Low .
Good info Trench
Been using a 10 yard zero i picked up from a former instructor, so far I've had more luck than the good ole walk of shame.
🍺 running PA 1-6 variables and 3 X which are zeroed at 100 for the ACSS. Run the PA 1-6 guns a lot out from 100 to 500 yards shooting steel. Dialed in with 77 SMK and 168 gr SMK on AR10. Got one iron sight carbine that is 25 -300 meter BZO
I've zeroed my optic and magnifier at the range the weekend they came in like, forever ago. Got the red dot sighted in on my pistol the day I got it mounted. 🍻
I zeroed my rifle to 25/100 and my pistol to 7/30. Before you get to it in the video.
Now that's a good one and makes sense. To send it to the front of the Pic slot. Never herd that one before. Hand tight? Well I'm jacked cuz, so I need to use a torque wrench so i dont break it.
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Three groups (fifteen rounds total) 200m. First group - check. Adjust elev, then winds. Second group sent. Check - adjust elev then winds. Final group should be zero. If not with one inch group then a fail and restart. (Which suxs)
I didn't follow proper procedure, I got lazy and used a laser bore sight, lol. 🍻
Things have changed in 40 years!
🍻 3 round groups. Moving to 5 round groups.
Man, this video really makes me love my LPVO with RDS offset 😂❤
Red dots should be zeroed at 50 yards. Confirmed at 200. LPVO's, if BDC reticle, should be zeroed at the manufacturer's recommendation so you can optimize the reticle. If a straight up MOA or a MIL reticle, zero at 200 and do the math for the rest. 200 yd zero will give you a great POA/POI from muzzle to about 230 yds.
Sights & Trigger
That's the most concise explanation.
Trying to shoot 100 points off hand 🔥 with 10 shots, requires learning certain things... Your best shots will accept your own motion and swing through time for trigger break! At the right moment of sight to target 🎯 connection...
And as you regulate your breathing and your timing and all that good s***, don't forget, don't look through your sites for more than about 8 seconds😂...
Most people, never take the time to actually line up their eyes with a small bullseye at 200 yards... Barely larger than their front post...
Doing it 10 times off hand 🔥 I tried to 'compete' with my fellow rifleman, 😢 barely putting up 70 points on best days...
I blame the rifle, not holding 🍺zero 🥽
im the guy waiting for a day off work to zero my rifle i feel called out
The only channel that means a fuck anymore... prove me wrong
Shawn Ryan disagrees with your opinion of the 36 yrd zero 😂
I probably been doing it wrong but thats why its important to learn an apply
My rifle is properly zero'd at 36 yards as per USMC standards. Zero at 25/50 yards if you don't shoot and scoot.
🍺 never zeroed irons before in my life trench, thanks
What the fuck is a centiwhatever and how many bald eagles is it equal to?MERICA!!
On duty with 77 guys Withdrawing from fentanyl , puking and shittin on themselves in a county jail , drinking coffee and enjoying a pinch Copenhagen, watching Trench and daydreaming of Midget Strippers and tacos
I laughed way too hard at this lol cheers my dude
@@trench_grenade thank you 😊
🍺.. I have been using a 50/200 zero for the last 3 years. I am in a rural/mountainous area but it is thick woods for the most part
Every moment of trigger time IS training.
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🍺 waiting on the front mbus on the new pew and will definitely use this method. Probably 36yd stupid zero ha. Couldn’t find em at any local shops. Guys all said people were buying em for stocking stuffers
Definitely like to see your take on LPVOs
10 years ago i went through probably 100 rds to get zeroed. Now i can do it with 5 or less.
My rifle was🎯 as soon as I got it. If you dont have it zeroed in (properly) within 24hrs of owning it, you dont have a rifle. You have a xtra loud cap gun.🍺
Downloading every one of these videos you upload. Fucking outstanding content 🍺🍺🍺
I like 36 yard zero for average battle rifle.
Your windage screw may need a light tap.
🍻 only time i've zeroed my rifle was at an indoor range, zeroed at 25. was all i had, and if i remember right it was "good enough" ive not been shooting in a minute. im slackin.
I too still want the LPVO sucks video.
Im watching everything.
No emoji.😂
yeah gonna need that lpvo video just to watch you rant for half an hour
It will be done my lord
Former FMF Navy Corpsman, yeah….. idk if it’s properly zeroed. I’ll find out at the end of my video.
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I usually do 50 yard 0!!! I didn't know about the 25 /300
I’ve just been raw dog’n it this whole time and zeroing with my target at 300. This will be way cheaper. Not going to get as many steps in though.
I don’t drink but wanna supposed the channel lol beck and n the day o struggled zeroing my glass and now I can do it in under 10 rounds lol now I’m into zeroing IR lasers
Good stuff. I’ve always done 50/200 for my EOTech and Aimpoints but I’m thinking of switching to 25/300.
I'm the guy with no rifle to zero...
😊 appreciate the work
🍺 ideally, i always bore sight before zeroing on paper.
My step dad was drankin a 🍺 and told me I culdn’t zero my rifle to save my life. He will love me one day.😢
@deltathirtyfour has epic videos on zeroes and high over bore considerations
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I adjusted my red dot until I was hitting a good group at 50 yards. 🤷🏻♂️
Did you paint your gun yourself? And if you did can you do a tutorial on how you did it that way? I really like how yours looks.
Base layer tan
Alternate stripe movement with brown and green
Let dry
Flip to other side
Repeat.
Let dry completely
This is a simple pattern. Be patient with taping off things like your ejection port, barrel, optic, magwell, etc.
I have a video on this
I really like the 50/200 yard zero for my ARs. I don’t like the margin of error on the other methods.
can you help to explain why the 36yd zero is bad? I was hoping he would mention it but it sounds like he just doesn’t want to lol
what kind of shoulder holster you rocking and how do you like mixing it in with other kit?
Gym carry or house carry only. G43 in a galco classic lite
Just sent a new ACOG TA32RCOA4 back for warranty, it was having windage issues. After about two mags or so, the shots shifted left and stayed shifted even after adjustment. It wasn't the mount, since the piggyback RMR was zeroed.
🍻🍺🍻🍺 aimpoint pro 50 yards zero on a print out Trex arms zero sheet
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I use a 50/200 where I live.