Auto/distant switch didn't work as it should or someone left it in the wrong position. It is usually the latter. Imagine if we had to use all that diesel for all the trucks we would have to use without trains. Hundreds of thousands more trucks. Maybe over a million. Think of the Interstate highways then thank railroading. They make sure we eat.
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@@smedleyfarnsworth263 um the mow crew shut everything off....they were running on a track warrant, and yes you can turn power off to a switch I used to all the time in Aurora Illinois....
Where was the attention of the engineer of the second train to see if he had a red light? This could have been prevented if the trainmen was paying attention to the fact there was a stopped train who had a green light and the switching train had a red light or even a yellow light.
I thought PTC is suppose to stop this from happening? The intermodal train has Tropicana reefers up front. I would speculate that this train was improperly lined.
PTC will NOT stop you from running into the back of a train. It just won't let you do more than restricted speed. Stopping short of trains, derails, switches, broken rail, or any other hazard. Restricted speed does not mean you can do the maximum allowed for restricted speed. The refrigerator cars if empty or not running, can be near the head. If running the separated by one non-hazardous or plain car.
@johnclamshellsp1969 that is precisely my point. PTC is supposed to prevent this from happening. That train was not operating at restricted speed. And as a retired locomotive engineer, and you can ask anyone that is still operating, PTC is supposed to prevent collisions at speed. The Folkston camera clearly showed that the NB intermodal was operating well above restricted speed. The point I am making about the reefers up front is that this train would be headed north to NJ and is usually lined to the Nahunta sub and not to Waycross. Hence, it is my point that one should question how this train was lined. Was it a Stop signal violation? Improperly lined switch? Was there a malfunction with PTC on this train? It can be a number of things, but PTC's major selling point was exactly that, prevention of collisions. That is also what the RRs are trying to point out with their desire for 1 man crews. It's very clear on the video that the crew did not see the other train until they entered the curve. thats when the train was heard dumping the brakes before impact. Again, as a former engineer, this is not exactly what I would expect to happen with PTC. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered there. Nonetheless, I am happy to hear that the crew of both trains were not seriously injured, although one conductor was reported to have broken his arm and leg. Prayers to both crews.
@markchalupa7981 if that was the case, then heads are gonna roll. That train passed through Folkston as if he had a favorable aspect on that signal. He should of had a stop signal or a restricted with another train occupying the block ahead. Something isn't right here.
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Times Now MSN Hobo Shoestring Dies: Missing Tennessee TH-camr Mark Nichols Found Dead In Boone Lake, Johnson City Story by Times Now Digital • 1w • 1 min read legacy obituary site Mark Nichols (2024), Hobo Shoestring TH-cam star By Linnea Crowther April 16, 2024 Mark Nichols was a TH-cam star who documented his life hopping freight trains on his Hobo Shoestring channel. Died: After going missing on March 27, 2024.
Disney should add this latest incident to the old Donald Duck cartoon series of 'How To Have An Accident . . .'; only have one on American Railroads. I miss the little cartoon character J.J. Fate ("they're always blaming me"!).
@@Chuck44442yeah it goes to show PTC is not worth a damn .....but no, trains still require manual labor the PTC is supposed to take over if a problem occurs....to my understanding the MOW crew that was to be working with the rock didn't set the switch
dp6654, the news reporter offered no conjecture or guess for carse or outcome. Her recorded statements were basics and information available. For the time being, leave the PTC, work authority by a MOW crew and analysis for later in a full NTSB investigation.
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that was not a call to 911, that was the radio call from engineer to train dispatcher in Jacksonville
It's the "news." What do you expect , accuracy?
@@woods840 no I don’t, if railfans had a news station they would be the most accurate in the topic of trains.
PTC working real nice.
Precision Scheduled Railroading: "equipment and staff pushed so hard that the wheels are falling off." 🚂
Auto/distant switch didn't work as it should or someone left it in the wrong position. It is usually the latter.
Imagine if we had to use all that diesel for all the trucks we would have to use without trains. Hundreds of thousands more trucks. Maybe over a million. Think of the Interstate highways then thank railroading. They make sure we eat.
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....and yet derailments overall have been dropping the last 10 years
Well, let's see here. I bet 99% a restricted speed violation. If so, that crew is fired. Take that from a 27-year railroad vet.
Disgruntled 27-year railroad vet*. I think it was equipment or track related.
@@grapeape16 MOW crew put the switch in manual mode so it was human error....
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@@ShawnCalay The signals would have been at stop with a train in the next section. Plus you can't move a switch with a signal at the proceed position.
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 um the mow crew shut everything off....they were running on a track warrant, and yes you can turn power off to a switch I used to all the time in Aurora Illinois....
Someone dropped the ball.
Depends on what kind of signal l032 got,if he got a restricting someone is getting fired
In order to get restricting the distant signal would have been an Approach
Where was the dispatcher when all this was going on? This marks 20 yrs exactly since the head on at Vitis back in 2004
Dispatchers cost money. The fascist Wall Street robber barons probably demanded they be fired.
NS had to pay $600,000,000 for the last big one they had that's a lot of Big Mac's.
Where was the attention of the engineer of the second train to see if he had a red light? This could have been prevented if the trainmen was paying attention to the fact there was a stopped train who had a green light and the switching train had a red light or even a yellow light.
I thought PTC is suppose to stop this from happening? The intermodal train has Tropicana reefers up front. I would speculate that this train was improperly lined.
PTC will NOT stop you from running into the back of a train. It just won't let you do more than restricted speed. Stopping short of trains, derails, switches, broken rail, or any other hazard. Restricted speed does not mean you can do the maximum allowed for restricted speed. The refrigerator cars if empty or not running, can be near the head. If running the separated by one non-hazardous or plain car.
@johnclamshellsp1969 that is precisely my point. PTC is supposed to prevent this from happening. That train was not operating at restricted speed. And as a retired locomotive engineer, and you can ask anyone that is still operating, PTC is supposed to prevent collisions at speed. The Folkston camera clearly showed that the NB intermodal was operating well above restricted speed. The point I am making about the reefers up front is that this train would be headed north to NJ and is usually lined to the Nahunta sub and not to Waycross. Hence, it is my point that one should question how this train was lined. Was it a Stop signal violation? Improperly lined switch? Was there a malfunction with PTC on this train? It can be a number of things, but PTC's major selling point was exactly that, prevention of collisions. That is also what the RRs are trying to point out with their desire for 1 man crews. It's very clear on the video that the crew did not see the other train until they entered the curve. thats when the train was heard dumping the brakes before impact. Again, as a former engineer, this is not exactly what I would expect to happen with PTC. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered there. Nonetheless, I am happy to hear that the crew of both trains were not seriously injured, although one conductor was reported to have broken his arm and leg.
Prayers to both crews.
@@markydee48 PTC shutoff during this track work.
Signal suspension rules.
@markchalupa7981 if that was the case, then heads are gonna roll. That train passed through Folkston as if he had a favorable aspect on that signal. He should of had a stop signal or a restricted with another train occupying the block ahead. Something isn't right here.
Good thing Cleveland Brown wasn't hurt.
Willie Williams on the scene!
Wow that's not very good at all. Shows you some technology fails on the railroad sorry to say.
Must have been a Boeing train
🤦god I hate aviators
Is this CTC or dark territory?
Oh boy
Oh no the juice train
No wander why my package from Amazon is a week late.
More poor maintenance?
What does trains running into each other have to do with maintenance.
@@maxrshelltrack7443 signal and switch maintenance.
No. poor crew. Looks 99% restricted speed violation. Crew is fired most likely.
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Rail van camera?
What??
Good thing Stobe or Shoestring were not aboard this on. Oh my
Sadly they are no longer with us shoestring passed about 2 weeks ago
Well they run the system to the MAXIMUM for profit and shareholders. SAFETY COSTS MONEY.
? Stobe died in 2017 and Shoestring passed away a couple of weeks ago.
F u people, stay off my trains
Times Now MSN Hobo Shoestring Dies: Missing Tennessee TH-camr Mark Nichols Found Dead In Boone Lake, Johnson City
Story by Times Now Digital
• 1w • 1 min read
legacy obituary site Mark Nichols (2024), Hobo Shoestring TH-cam star
By Linnea Crowther April 16, 2024
Mark Nichols was a TH-cam star who documented his life hopping freight trains on his Hobo Shoestring channel.
Died: After going missing on March 27, 2024.
Disney should add this latest incident to the old Donald Duck cartoon series of 'How To Have An Accident . . .'; only have one on American Railroads. I miss the little cartoon character J.J. Fate ("they're always blaming me"!).
Starting this shit again.
Ooooooooops!
$$$$$$ ???
FCN your reporting sucks. off the cuff and full of inaccuracies.
I thought all this stuff was automated ?
They are not railfans, they can only report to the best that most people can understand....not everyone knows or studies railways....
@@Chuck44442yeah it goes to show PTC is not worth a damn .....but no, trains still require manual labor the PTC is supposed to take over if a problem occurs....to my understanding the MOW crew that was to be working with the rock didn't set the switch
dp6654, the news reporter offered no conjecture or guess for carse or outcome. Her recorded statements were basics and information available.
For the time being, leave the PTC, work authority by a MOW crew and analysis for later in a full NTSB investigation.
@@glennfoster2423 the news still reports, there are 100s of car accidents they get info wrong on but they have to report it ASAP
Dispatcher, we have a cornfield meet.
With full railroad automation, those three crew would not be injured. On over 45% of US trains, personnel on-board are superfluous and a liability.
Shut up
@@7171-Ws6 says the luddite unionist chump!