Also there’s nothing in this you couldn’t have got from others who did a far better job of it in the past. Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life. John 14:6
I watched 5 minutes of this and figure this guy just likes to hear himself talk and is going to say the same thing over and over again so f this s*** I'm done
Jimmy Page is by sun sign a Capricorn and therefore the sigil of zoso was chosen by him as a representation of the sigil of Saturn. Capricorn is also correspondence of Saturn. It's no mystery that he would have chosen a sigil belonging to the planet Saturn. When Jimmy Page hidden in his Castle for a period of time, he was going through a long dark night of the soul and he was doing this via the practice of hermetic and Thelema mysticism and Ritual magic. The stairway to heaven song was describing a path of evolution and the path of devolution of the qlyppoth. To Jimmy page, both paths were necessary to achieve enlightenment. The back masking on the stairway to heaven as not intentional. Ant highly evolved musician can unconsciously create a song with lyrics that would have impact to the mass's unconscious, and the songs if played backwards would reflect the singer's/song writers' unconscious side, whether light or dark and demonic. My view on occult is very neutral and rational, I'm not stuck on these conspiracy theories and crap. Anyone who has evolved to a point e.g. roy orbisan and many others would have impact with their songs and the reverse side of their songs. however, some have tried to do deliberate back masking to prove a point. What is interesting here, although jimmy page has experienced the negative path of the qlyppoth, he has not been overtaken by it. he has simply stared at negative in the face. Very interesting how he has not degenerated. I think in this video the creator of this video is reading into symbolism a bit too much, I think. Its universal that dragons and a snake and an eagle are a symbol of power, and many gravitate to these symbols unconsciously. Whether Jimmy Page chose these symbols consciously or unconsciously is irrelevant. Most likely he chose them consciously seeing he was a student to the occult., but so what!!
All those might agree or disagree one event is constant with an obsession of Satan. Death ,Tragedy & fire historically appear in the lives of those who dabble in the black arts. 😮
Page and Angus, and Iommi were my biggest influences to play guitar. I was into Satanism in my teens and twentys. I read the books and messed with it a little. Was into Venom and Slayer, Celtic Frost, etc. I outgrew the metal, but still love Led Zeppelin. And yes, playing Stairway backwards does have messages including here's to my sweet Satan. I'm totally Christian now, as God has saved me several times supernaturally. Jesus is King, Lord, and Savior.
@@Whyowhy99 Correct, but I was using the atheist definition of satanism, (laveyan satanism). Athiests believe there's no Satan so satanism should be waste of time and not make so many musicians best in their field.
Jimmy Page is one of the fallen angels/ demons that got kick out from heaven for their rebellion. A lot of them are in this generation ( celebrities, politicians, scientists) Lord Jesus Christ is coming soon🙏🏼❤️🕊Repent, believe in the Gospel, Be Born Again
The power of a spell requires keeping your spell secret, it doesn't matter what others think, if the magician believes it works, it will only work while he maintains it's secrecy. Concerts are ceremonies, they create huge amounts of energy, one explanation for musicians' egos to explode and for them to describe being on stage as the ultimate high, they are receiving high levels of worship and excitement.
The performer is the modern mage. A conduit for human psychic energy. It's incredibly powerful, intoxicating and humbling at the same time. Weak souls are easily overcome by that power.
Hey... shhhhh... sorcerers don't tell! That's the deal, remember? Ah... too late. Now look what you've gone and done... more's the pity. Spilled milk and all....
Alistair Crowley was an idiot We live in a society of law and order that we have to maintain or else everything’s gonna just go kaput Yeah sounds good if you know writing a book or whatever but when it comes down to it if you don’t have order laws and standards to follow nothing works it’s complete anarchy
Too many people associate the occult with darkness and malevolence. That is entirely not the case. Studying certain avenues of the occult can be enlightening and even liberating. It will help you make sense of this world and life on it. Lose the stigma.
The very word of cult means things done in Hidden If it's such a beautiful thing as you proclaim, why has it not always been performed openly in publicly with them letting you know what the end result is Get born again. Find out what that means. The King of kings is returning soon He who does not gather for Him, scatters. And he who is not with Him, is against Him Choose Jesus will you still have free will. He proved his eternal Victory when he did something that no one has ever done, 1991 years ago, ....HE ROSE FROM THE D E A D🎉
The occult is a one-way ticket to eternal damnation. In the words of Bob Dylan, " it may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you gotta serve somebody."
@@cjnav7832 it very much was practiced in the open, everywhere, until Catholicism decided to crusade against the entire world and demonize any other belief or practices that weren't theirs. You're blaming the "occult" (a blanket term for an indescribably large amount of different things) for being shadowy and spooky, when it's the very thing you believe in that was responsible for that discrimination in the first place. Learn your history before you decide to openly speak on something
@@PugLover9955 Dylan said he made a deal with "the chief commander...of this world and of the world we can't see." I think that was on a 60 Minutes interview?
Crowley's house was nuts though. The serveants, handymen, etc all talk about strange stuff happening at Boleskine Manor. Disembodied voices, things moving, footsteps. Crawley performed his most complicated and infamous ritual there, the Abramelin. Apparently he saw something shiny and left the manor without closing the doorway opened by the disciplined, multi-day ritual. Anyone who stayed at the house since, swore it was haunted and never returned.
William Butler Yeats wrote a poem, in response to Crowley threats of magical retaliation for not handing over certain documents associated with the Golden Dawn. The poem described how Crowley would live his life following the left hand path, how it would lead him to ruin and desolation.
Jimmy doesn't open up ,he's an enigma and a mystery.He won't tell all because he wants it that way.His path works for him and and I have always loved Jimmy Page as a musician.He's a private man....He looks Native American with his long grey hair...
Regardless of whatever occult practices actually influenced the music of Page and Led Zeppelin, Peter Grant was a management genius, and an important yet overlooked question would be what was Grant’s role, if any? Specifically, what were Grant’s interactions and advisements with Page in shaping the mystique of LZ? A similar case was the mystique created around Blue Oyster Cult by Sandy Pearlman. Pearlman wanted to convince executive Clive Davis (who later managed Whitney Huston) that BOC could be the American rival to Black Sabbath. 1970’s rock was becoming a big business, and marketing is always an important part of business.
Jason. I know u probably mean well. But as someone who have read his books and more.. he did in fact call himself the beast. The wicked part is where the journalist came in.
@@jettoscranda yes, that he actually did call himself. that,s why its a mistake to say that he self-proclamed himself wickedest man in the world, those were not his words, they were the words of a journalist. he call did himself the great beast 666 also frater perdurabo and others
@@katoness learn to read, and never said he was a good guy, I just said the words "wickedest man in the world" were written by a journalist, not by crowley so he did not self-proclame himself wickedest man in the world. now how you can read that and concluse that I have not studied the topic suficiently just shows what an idiot you are.
I love that he was interested in the occult which means secret or the unknown. To ask the why of things. It's not as sinister as they are making it out to be in this video. I love his free mind, his guitar and his beautiful face. 🌙
I live in the South of the USA. There is still an occult African/Carribean culture here, mostly among the black country folk and I am fascinated by it. Not afraid, there’s nothing to fear.
Yeah I guess you're right. There's nothing wrong with sacrificing individuals. Or eating feces. And the other rituals that they do. As for his pretty wrinkly face, charm is deceitful and beauty is fading
The music of LZ is so intriguing I think people are looking for some other worldly explanation for its intrigue, when it was just 4 very talented young men. There's a lot of 'conformation bias' surrounding their music...unless of course you believe in selling your soul at the crossroads for musical fame.
@@Debra-k1f A variety of sources. There have been a number of legal actions, some successful. Others never attempted to sue but others noticed. A lot of them were blues singers who they thought would be too obscure. They tried to copyright traditional songs in at least one case too - "Nobody's Fault But Mine" on a later album.
@ThursoBerwick Thank you for sharing this. I'm always interested in learning new things... I just recently learned about the sigil on the LZ sweats my husband had. I am sure he didn't know what it was. Again thanks for responding!✨️
Named my youngest daughter Paige after my father’s and my own favorite guitarist. I wanted to spell it Page but her father didn’t like it so we went with the traditional way of spelling her name but for me it means something different. It’s Page to me
@@jennybaji421 Were you listening to the dude's story? He bought Boleskin house for the sole purpose of conjuring a demon. He hoped to succeed where Crowley failed. He also bought a 14 year old girl to take on tour. You okay with that too?
an intellectual exploration, delving into the metaphysical realm of Eastern philosophy; for gods sake man can you point to anything tangible he actually did other than the elusive Zoso symbol and purchasing an old house.
Occult is an abomination against God and is very sinful, and people need to come repentance and surrender their life to true christ Jesus to receive forgiveness they sins and receive his God righteousness
Religion is an abomination against humanity and the planet. It has held us back for thousands of years, led to wars, genocides , the suppression of knowledge, the rape of the planet, the extinction of species, the subjugation of people. Believers are the Problem. They were sold a Roman lie and they Still believe it, in the 21st Century. That is some peculiar level of Stupid. Which has cost us for centuries.
If you fear the occult then stay away from it. Besides it's not what most religious individuals think it is. Page is inspired by Crowley as were others. So what.
Crowley was an arsehole...."do what thou wilt " says it all ...that's why the plundering of riffs / tragic history of the band / drug use / tales of underage and debauched times point to pages interpretation and self indulgence as an agent of the dark one -leading evermore people to a condemned spiritual eternity. If jimmy can take it to that extreme - i can take it the opposite direction and say "look at what happened in your lives " No fame was worth that - THATS my take on it all .
And bible bashing has given us wars, genocide racism, homophobia, misogyny and held the human race back for centuries. I could go into detail as to why there is No God, and therefore no Satan, but I know it would be a waste of time. I will say That as far as I know Page and the other remaining members of Led Zep are living happy , rewarding lives with the wealth and prestige accumulated through their collaboration. So your point was?
Damn ... You wish you had horns like Jimmy Page. A net worth of 400 million dollars. Beautiful British properties. A beautiful fiance. 7 or 8 beautiful children. He's fascinatingly interesting.
Absolutely. Led Zeppelin would have been amazing with James Brown's horn section, or the Funky Meters... one can only imagine... Luci's Sax 'n Sex Wax!
Good art has magic and mystery to it. Where and why does it come and why some are affected similarly and not does any not touched by it? Seems Page is intelligent. Therefore, he seeks to understand and full of wonder as everyone should. Who doesn't wonder and the more aware you are the more you wonder/ponder/seek. Art is a mystery life is full of mysteries. Only the fool thinks he knows, and everything one sees is all there is. Only the fool has all the answers and can cause all at will. Who accepts not knowing without seeking.
Genesis 1:1 - _In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth._ Genesis 1:27 - _"So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."_ Psalm 19:1 - _The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims His handiwork._ John 14: 6 - _"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me"_ - Jesus John 8:31-32 - _“...If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”_ - Jesus
@@TanyaBerezkina55 On your knees, friend He's closer to you than you can imagine Say this out loud, "Jesus, I don't understand all of this but I choose to use my free will and my belief to say that You are Lord and Savior. Be my Savior and teach me who You are, please. Amen" That's all you have to do. The rest will fall in line. He hears you. He's alive. The cross is empty. The tomb is empty. He is risen from the dead. He is soon returning🎉
Im sure Jimmy would get up and walk out when things like this were mentioned so can't see him talking too much about it in front of an audience and some things shouldn't be mentioned even in small company?
STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN: In a January 1982 broadcast of the Trinity Broadcasting Network television program Praise the Lord hosted by Paul Crouch, it was claimed that hidden messages were contained in many popular rock songs through a technique called backmasking. One example of such hidden messages that was prominently cited was in "Stairway to Heaven".[68] The alleged message, which occurs during the middle section of the song ("If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now...") when played backward, was purported to contain the Satanic references: "Here's to my sweet Satan / The one whose little path would make me sad whose power is Satan, / He'll give you, he'll give you 666 / There was a little tool shed where he made us suffer, sad Satan."
Duh.. Zoso is a symbol for Saturn which rules Capricorn, Jimmy's Sun sign. Plant's symbol of a feather within a circle represents the feather of Ma’at, the ancient Egyptian goddess of truth, justice, harmony, and balance. It's also a pen. JPJ's 3 circle symbol represents a confident and competent individual. In Celtic mythology, the number three is held in highest regard. Bonham's symbol is a Triquetra, created by the Celts to symbolize the relationship between Mother, Father and child
Pagey is about as evil as Mr. Rogers. He's kind and considerate of others to a fault. No doubt he could talk sh*t about lots of people but he never does. Even when other musicians cross him he doesn't say anything bad about them.
Nonsense. So many of us dipped our toes into the occult and various mysticisms but most only scratched the surface. Page was mostly focused on music which occupied his time not being steeped into heavy occult practice. This is BS just like phony annoying voice of the moderator
Wanting to learn people’s thoughts on it, doesn’t mean a thing, it’s no different then people’s obsession with the Bible. If Pages interest causes bad things, why doesn’t the Bible protect those who obsess over it. Sound more like jealousy over Page’s exceptional talent.
@@monkeyrevolution1964 You're so wrong. All of that not only exists, but it's more real than this world. I had experiences with the spirit world and have first hand experience, so don't find out the hard way. Either way, you'll find out.
Jesus Christ said in Luke 16:19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Not really relevant, you just used it to vomit your belief over everyone because deep down you want everyone to think like you do. You can be King of the world where everyone is just like you, agrees with you, thinks just like you do, and likes the smell of your farts. If only you could convince them by some common doctrine.
Rock n roll period is magic it’s the force to deal with the 7 deadly sins and smash it but page Blackmore box iomi yes they are goth guys any one of the can switch bands and still sound great the yardbirds did this even before page it really came from Kieth relf who payed his price
My friends had David Cassidy posters, I had walls of Jimmy Page, Zeppelin, and Rush... 😂 And for the Satanic Panic fear mongers... I've been a pagan and witch for about four decades. No possessions, demons, and horrible spirits. Just an open mind, Love, and Nature. 💚
@fgoindarkg 🙄 I don't practice ceremonial magick or summon dark energies. Please don't be ridiculous. Everything I believe in is a celebration of nature, both it's days and nights.
And you'll never have to worry about anything supernatural happening to you. Because you are already lost . Why would you be let on. Nah! That's a secret strongly kept from you. Lest you awaken to the truth. And your soul be lost to them. Wheras now its a fate as good as sealed for you my friend.
THUS... The mystery remains a mystery and makes for 🤔 interesting folklore!!! However; Nonetheless, should be harnessed and controlled rather than left to chaos!!! Always... Remaining aware is key!!! Should you waiver when dealing with these forces ..... SERIOUS consequences could occur!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Interesting documentary!!! 💯 🤔 No puzzle that it can be controversial... Some things are just to remain unknown; but it never hurts to question. Same thing goes for anything else!!! Just have to know when enough is enough... Or when charging forward is necessary!!! This topic has intrigued me for some time... ALWAYS keep your guard up!!!💯
This much is true and that's what you're supposed to hear. Again and once more (again) his already known story isn't telling anything unknown to his fans that will take whatever they can get to hear from their hero.
Crowley--pronounced Crow(as in bird) and ley(lee).Simple really,except if you're American. Aleister pronounced it this way---not American English,BUT English !
@@marcfalsetti9381 Yeah, the decency that allows kids to die in wars, hungry people to starve in gutters, animals to be treated like shit, the planet we depend on to be plundered You must feel very proud of your "decency" You are filth. .
After 10 minutes, I realised I was correct : this narrator would just keep chanting the same 5 or 6 trivial nothingburger presumptions over and over. Even before 2 minutes, I could see this possibility was very likely. Doubtless, the uplouder felt by reading this rubbish like he was the host of SNL’s Goth Talk, we would end up hearing the whole vid before realising he works at Cinnabons. - Dude. Gag me with a Tim Burton video cassette. Booooooooooring. Kirk out.
I am not sure why this has to start with the day he was born. If you’re watching this, you’ve heard that story 10,000 times. Edit this thing to where it’s only page talking. Not this speaker telling me page picked up the guitar as a young man.
So did how many other people.why do this to someone who has brought us such beautiful memories through his music ...Jimmy turn it around on them !!!!! Oh really were y'all there? If so to to know this much one had to indulge themselves how bout that 🙄
Occult meaning Hidden Knowledge. There are some Doors that never should be opened. In the Garden of Eden . Tree of Knowledge was Forbidden . Wisdom is from GOD. Knowledge can be a Deadly Foe. Jimmy Page I would hope would indulge in Jesus as Lord and only Saviour . Jimmy was an Alter Boy in his younger Years. I pray his interests in his later years was to Save his Soul . Knock on the Door Jimmy. Jesus Awaits.
The Garden of Eden doesn't exist. Can't stand people that interpret the bible literally. It is not a primary historical source. It is a work of literature. You do know that the Gospels were written 80-100 years after the death of Christ RIGHT,???
What a bunch of crap. You might want to do some research before you make this crap. At least learn how to pronounce Crowley's name, Thelema, and Boleskine.
This video is nothing but a U.K. voice talent reading a prepared script to create one more attempt at confoundment of what has become common public knowledge, with serious esoteric knowledge. This began with Led Zeppelin's rise in musical popularity during the 1970's. There's no connection from this source with anything but ordinary rock music and celebrity journalism reporting combined with generalized commentary, dressed up with a little eerie music and wording that repeats what has repeatedly already appeared in publicly available books, magazines, as well as audio and video media. This piece attempts to promote a sense of mystique about Mr. Page for less informed fans. I think he does have a sense of mystique, but it radiates through kindness towards others throughout his career and life. The commentator attempts to hype mystique with an insistent reliance on the consistent ambiguity of available published knowledge. I would suggest everyone who takes the time to watch and listen to this video, to please think for yourselves. All one one can deduce from this video is that a code of personal conduct still comes down to "Do what you will, with the guidance of universal love (agape) while doing your best to cause no harm to others."
Irritating!!!!!!! .....lies lies lies. LIES. .....the best way you can see what someone is really all about is if you PAUSE the screen and there's so much information there, which you can't normally see without pause.x
This man just repeated the same statements over and over, probably no truth in half of it
Thank you for saving me a half hour.
Dip
Also there’s nothing in this you couldn’t have got from others who did a far better job of it in the past.
Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life. John 14:6
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@@michaelhayman2549 ALSO MANY OTHERS MAN : BUDDHA AND OTHERS .
I watched 5 minutes of this and figure this guy just likes to hear himself talk and is going to say the same thing over and over again so f this s*** I'm done
It's a bot.
Yes I believe your right. Yes , I believe your right.
Never mind the bollocks.
@@princebonnie1357 Although I have heard this term before,I'm not sure of the meaning. Can you tell me what it means? Thanks,Boracho714.
@@Boracho21 English slang for don't be bothered by this nonsense.
Are you going to make a part 2 to this? I hope so because I'm still waiting to hear Page open up about his occult practices.
What a boring and repetitive crap. Meaningless sentences leading to more meaningless sentences and NOTHING by Pagey himself.
Because it is a Bot. Designed to make clicks and therefore money for someone somewhere. It is wrecking YT
Yes I couldn’t agree more. Baseless rubbish.
Jimmy Page is by sun sign a Capricorn and therefore the sigil of zoso was chosen by him as a representation of the sigil of Saturn. Capricorn is also correspondence of Saturn. It's no mystery that he would have chosen a sigil belonging to the planet Saturn. When Jimmy Page hidden in his Castle for a period of time, he was going through a long dark night of the soul and he was doing this via the practice of hermetic and Thelema mysticism and Ritual magic. The stairway to heaven song was describing a path of evolution and the path of devolution of the qlyppoth. To Jimmy page, both paths were necessary to achieve enlightenment. The back masking on the stairway to heaven as not intentional. Ant highly evolved musician can unconsciously create a song with lyrics that would have impact to the mass's unconscious, and the songs if played backwards would reflect the singer's/song writers' unconscious side, whether light or dark and demonic. My view on occult is very neutral and rational, I'm not stuck on these conspiracy theories and crap. Anyone who has evolved to a point e.g. roy orbisan and many others would have impact with their songs and the reverse side of their songs. however, some have tried to do deliberate back masking to prove a point. What is interesting here, although jimmy page has experienced the negative path of the qlyppoth, he has not been overtaken by it. he has simply stared at negative in the face. Very interesting how he has not degenerated. I think in this video the creator of this video is reading into symbolism a bit too much, I think. Its universal that dragons and a snake and an eagle are a symbol of power, and many gravitate to these symbols unconsciously. Whether Jimmy Page chose these symbols consciously or unconsciously is irrelevant. Most likely he chose them consciously seeing he was a student to the occult., but so what!!
Very good text thank you.🎸
All those might agree or disagree one event is constant with an obsession of Satan. Death ,Tragedy & fire historically appear in the lives of those who dabble in the black arts. 😮
nobody knows what zoso means and jimmy has never said.
@@brubeck1 No, actually, we do. You can find it in a very old grimoire from the 1500s titled "Ars Magica Arteficii"
Page and Angus, and Iommi were my biggest influences to play guitar. I was into Satanism in my teens and twentys. I read the books and messed with it a little. Was into Venom and Slayer, Celtic Frost, etc. I outgrew the metal, but still love Led Zeppelin. And yes, playing Stairway backwards does have messages including here's to my sweet Satan. I'm totally Christian now, as God has saved me several times supernaturally. Jesus is King, Lord, and Savior.
Ask yourself what satanism has to do with music buddy.
Amen 🙏 Jesus saved me too
@@mklizzar Ask Paganini.
@@mklizzareverything saten was a a musician while he was in heaven before he was casted on this earth
@@Whyowhy99 Correct, but I was using the atheist definition of satanism, (laveyan satanism).
Athiests believe there's no Satan so satanism should be waste of time and not make so many musicians best in their field.
one ritual was the needle and the spoon
Is that from the same occult school as the ritual of the Bolivian marching powder?
@@dustash1578
No . . . Myanmar and Afghanistan 😅
@@FrostedSeagull let’s not forget Türkiye,
Jimmy Page is one of the fallen angels/ demons that got kick out from heaven for their rebellion. A lot of them are in this generation ( celebrities, politicians, scientists) Lord Jesus Christ is coming soon🙏🏼❤️🕊Repent, believe in the Gospel, Be Born Again
The power of a spell requires keeping your spell secret, it doesn't matter what others think, if the magician believes it works, it will only work while he maintains it's secrecy.
Concerts are ceremonies, they create huge amounts of energy, one explanation for musicians' egos to explode and for them to describe being on stage as the ultimate high, they are receiving high levels of worship and excitement.
True but their Satanism runs deeper than just spells. They are from generational Satanic families.
The performer is the modern mage. A conduit for human psychic energy. It's incredibly powerful, intoxicating and humbling at the same time. Weak souls are easily overcome by that power.
Hey... shhhhh... sorcerers don't tell! That's the deal, remember? Ah... too late. Now look what you've gone and done... more's the pity. Spilled milk and all....
you dont get it at all
Bollocks. A spell works when the subject knows and believes it. Thick Prick. There's a spell just for You. See if you get it now.
60's and 70's were times of metaphysical curiosity....
Add a 6,000 years of humanity, why would you limit it to two decades???
Please avoid any occult practices that are dangerous
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or threaten the well being of others.
They are all dangerous.
@@d.l.l.6578 Only the ones in church.
Alistair Crowley was an idiot
We live in a society of law and order that we have to maintain or else everything’s gonna just go kaput
Yeah sounds good if you know writing a book or whatever but when it comes down to it if you don’t have order laws and standards to follow nothing works it’s complete anarchy
Too many people associate the occult with darkness and malevolence. That is entirely not the case. Studying certain avenues of the occult can be enlightening and even liberating. It will help you make sense of this world and life on it.
Lose the stigma.
You are very wrong and one day you will unfortunately find out
The very word of cult means things done in Hidden
If it's such a beautiful thing as you proclaim, why has it not always been performed openly in publicly with them letting you know what the end result is
Get born again. Find out what that means. The King of kings is returning soon
He who does not gather for Him, scatters. And he who is not with Him, is against Him
Choose Jesus will you still have free will.
He proved his eternal Victory when he did something that no one has ever done, 1991 years ago,
....HE ROSE FROM THE
D E A D🎉
The occult is a one-way ticket to eternal damnation. In the words of Bob Dylan, " it may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you gotta serve somebody."
I hear ya !!,smh...
@@cjnav7832 it very much was practiced in the open, everywhere, until Catholicism decided to crusade against the entire world and demonize any other belief or practices that weren't theirs. You're blaming the "occult" (a blanket term for an indescribably large amount of different things) for being shadowy and spooky, when it's the very thing you believe in that was responsible for that discrimination in the first place.
Learn your history before you decide to openly speak on something
It's no mystery,what profit a man to lose his soul.
Pagey has more soul now than the Vatican on Easter Sunday.
robert johnsons crossroads is much the same thing yes the same song that clapton covered and the film too
@@KennyJosephNivenEven Bob Dylan admitted in so many words that he'd done the same thing years ago in an interview. A deal made at a crossroads.
@@PugLover9955 Dylan said he made a deal with "the chief commander...of this world and of the world we can't see." I think that was on a 60 Minutes interview?
Amen, ray. I just red that again in the Gospel of John 10 minutes ago
Crowley's house was nuts though. The serveants, handymen, etc all talk about strange stuff happening at Boleskine Manor. Disembodied voices, things moving, footsteps.
Crawley performed his most complicated and infamous ritual there, the Abramelin. Apparently he saw something shiny and left the manor without closing the doorway opened by the disciplined, multi-day ritual. Anyone who stayed at the house since, swore it was haunted and never returned.
Page has the coolest stage wear of any rockstar.
Aleister Crowley ended up broke, addicted to herion, living in a boarding house all alone. So much for his God!
He didn't have one? You need to understand what Crowley was saying and why it has been suppressed.
William Butler Yeats wrote a poem, in response to Crowley threats of magical retaliation for not handing over certain documents associated with the Golden Dawn. The poem described how Crowley would live his life following the left hand path, how it would lead him to ruin and desolation.
There is no prove of anything of the sort. still a brilliant guitarist .
He bought Crowley's gaff.
The proof is in his admittance. I agree with your second statement though
Aleister Crowley was involved in ritual magic, not the same as Satanism...ask the Stones about that...
He was still a Satanist. Facts
Interesting comment.
What l heard was the story teller doing the talking and not hearing Page doing the explaining
Jimmy doesn't open up ,he's an enigma and a mystery.He won't tell all because he wants it that way.His path works for him and and I have always loved Jimmy Page as a musician.He's a private man....He looks Native American with his long grey hair...
He’s Asian
Does anyone remember Kenneth Angers' curse on Jimmy Paige?
Anger has passed on !!! So ….. if what he said worked at all …. It’s power is over , gone !!!
I heard he made one~ don't know what it was ? Didn't know Kenneth Anger died.
@@Debra-k1f Yeah he's pissed bout it.....
Yes
Yes. Heard it was really important or something. That's all I know about it.
Celtic mysticism...🎸🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Haha the comments here. Lighten up man and just look at Page as the guitar god he is!🤘🤘
If you think bagging children is okay.
"Guitar god"
LOL !!!!!!
My respect for Jimmy page.🎸
Regardless of whatever occult practices actually influenced the music of Page and Led Zeppelin, Peter Grant was a management genius, and an important yet overlooked question would be what was Grant’s role, if any? Specifically, what were Grant’s interactions and advisements with Page in shaping the mystique of LZ?
A similar case was the mystique created around Blue Oyster Cult by Sandy Pearlman. Pearlman wanted to convince executive Clive Davis (who later managed Whitney Huston) that BOC could be the American rival to Black Sabbath.
1970’s rock was becoming a big business, and marketing is always an important part of business.
Crowley was not a "self-proclamed" wickedest man in the world, a journalist had called him like that, not him.
He proclaimed himself as The Beast 666
Crowley was a nasty piece of work, do some research.
Jason. I know u probably mean well. But as someone who have read his books and more.. he did in fact call himself the beast. The wicked part is where the journalist came in.
@@jettoscranda yes, that he actually did call himself. that,s why its a mistake to say that he self-proclamed himself wickedest man in the world, those were not his words, they were the words of a journalist. he call did himself the great beast 666 also frater perdurabo and others
@@katoness learn to read, and never said he was a good guy, I just said the words "wickedest man in the world" were written by a journalist, not by crowley so he did not self-proclame himself wickedest man in the world. now how you can read that and concluse that I have not studied the topic suficiently just shows what an idiot you are.
I love that he was interested in the occult which means secret or the unknown. To ask the why of things. It's not as sinister as they are making it out to be in this video. I love his free mind, his guitar and his beautiful face. 🌙
Yep. He's a free thinker for sure! And an amazing guitar player as well!!!! Rock on!!!🤘🎸🎶🎶
I live in the South of the USA. There is still an occult African/Carribean culture here, mostly among the black country folk and I am fascinated by it. Not afraid, there’s nothing to fear.
Yeah I guess you're right. There's nothing wrong with sacrificing individuals. Or eating feces. And the other rituals that they do.
As for his pretty wrinkly face, charm is deceitful and beauty is fading
oh..methinks Pagey got just a wee bit sinister...pretty sure of it.
The Zoso sign is apparently a personal magical sigil.
The Who didn't need to dabble in that stuff and avoided the symbolism. And they were every bit as powerful as Zep.
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Jimmy was more of a sun god worshipper.
The Who revolved around the Moon.
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Jimmy was more of a sun god worshipper. The Who revolved around a Moon.
@@fgoindarkg LOL!
Who cares about the who
@@carlsalvato8530 Only like, every CSI show ever broadcast on TV for years and years.. Shit Starter much`??
Well, I won’t be getting that time back. Page didn’t open up. He said a few words but idt he opened up. Wow ok. !!! Rock on ppl.
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The music of LZ is so intriguing I think people are looking for some other worldly explanation for its intrigue, when it was just 4 very talented young men. There's a lot of 'conformation bias' surrounding their music...unless of course you believe in selling your soul at the crossroads for musical fame.
Half of that music was lifted without attribution.
Lifted? from whom ?
@@Debra-k1f A variety of sources. There have been a number of legal actions, some successful. Others never attempted to sue but others noticed. A lot of them were blues singers who they thought would be too obscure. They tried to copyright traditional songs in at least one case too - "Nobody's Fault But Mine" on a later album.
@ThursoBerwick Thank you for sharing this. I'm always interested in learning new things... I just recently learned about the sigil on the LZ sweats my husband had. I am sure he didn't know what it was. Again thanks for responding!✨️
Named my youngest daughter Paige after my father’s and my own favorite guitarist. I wanted to spell it Page but her father didn’t like it so we went with the traditional way of spelling her name but for me it means something different. It’s Page to me
Always love to see more of Page's double neck Gibson.🎶👍
💥Page is not a evil person!
& does NOT worship satin‼️
Gimme a break
He was interested in magic & looked into it admiditly
Misappropaited
alisteor crowley was a pagan devil worshipper wre noy talking a peaceful man
Yes he sold his soul to the devil and is and he put those curses on their 4th album
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Were you listening to the dude's story? He bought Boleskin house for the sole purpose of conjuring a demon. He hoped to succeed where Crowley failed.
He also bought a 14 year old girl to take on tour. You okay with that too?
Ikr? Some people are so blind. Didn't even spell satan right. They put satin. Go figure 🤔 🙄
an intellectual exploration, delving into the metaphysical realm of Eastern philosophy; for gods sake man can you point to anything tangible he actually did other than the elusive Zoso symbol and purchasing an old house.
I thought it said this was called “PAGE FINALLY OOPENS UP”.
I’m waiting patiently here.
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Is this on Loch Ness in Scotland...?
I thought Page was going to talk, not this guy.
same here I wanted to hear haunted house stuff
Occult is an abomination against God and is very sinful, and people need to come repentance and surrender their life to true christ Jesus to receive forgiveness they sins and receive his God righteousness
Jesus would have been very knowledgeable about the Book of Enoch. Why wasn't it included with the Romanized story?
@@forestsnow6508It is still canon in some countries.
Honk!
STFU righteous patriarch
The abomination is people like you for thinking you know what God wants
Religion is an abomination against humanity and the planet. It has held us back for thousands of years, led to wars, genocides , the suppression of knowledge, the rape of the planet, the extinction of species, the subjugation of people. Believers are the Problem. They were sold a Roman lie and they Still believe it, in the 21st Century. That is some peculiar level of Stupid. Which has cost us for centuries.
If you fear the occult then stay away from it. Besides it's not what most religious individuals think it is. Page is inspired by Crowley as were others. So what.
Crowley was an arsehole...."do what thou wilt " says it all ...that's why the plundering of riffs / tragic history of the band / drug use / tales of underage and debauched times point to pages interpretation and self indulgence as an agent of the dark one
-leading evermore people to a condemned spiritual eternity. If jimmy can take it to that extreme - i can take it the opposite direction and say "look at what happened in your lives " No fame was worth that - THATS my take on it all .
And bible bashing has given us wars, genocide racism, homophobia, misogyny and held the human race back for centuries. I could go into detail as to why there is No God, and therefore no Satan, but I know it would be a waste of time. I will say That as far as I know Page and the other remaining members of Led Zep are living happy , rewarding lives with the wealth and prestige accumulated through their collaboration. So your point was?
He wasn't. His overall message was respect of all things living. It's in his books, poems, and speeches.
what's with the unecessary hate? there's no point.
@@aporue5893 feels good, self reinforcement when the core program feels threatened, etc etc.
Mess with the Devil and you get the horns.
Damn ... You wish you had horns like Jimmy Page. A net worth of 400 million dollars. Beautiful British properties. A beautiful fiance. 7 or 8 beautiful children. He's fascinatingly interesting.
@@kevinkiso4579Also an unhealthy fascination with the very young. 12, 13, 14. And lifting half his songs off other people.
Absolutely. Led Zeppelin would have been amazing with James Brown's horn section, or the Funky Meters... one can only imagine... Luci's Sax 'n Sex Wax!
Hall? I'll bet you can't name 10 percent of zeps catalog which are lifted. Maybe 5,6 tracks? Maybe 9, 10? But no more than that.
@@ThursoBerwick Evidence for that?
Good art has magic and mystery to it. Where and why does it come and why some are affected similarly and not does any not touched by it? Seems Page is intelligent. Therefore, he seeks to understand and full of wonder as everyone should. Who doesn't wonder and the more aware you are the more you wonder/ponder/seek. Art is a mystery life is full of mysteries. Only the fool thinks he knows, and everything one sees is all there is. Only the fool has all the answers and can cause all at will. Who accepts not knowing without seeking.
Genesis 1:1 - _In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth._
Genesis 1:27 - _"So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."_
Psalm 19:1 - _The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims His handiwork._
John 14: 6 - _"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me"_ - Jesus
John 8:31-32 - _“...If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”_ - Jesus
"John Bonham died just days before embarking on a US Tour." Oh fckn brother!
Bonzo was a notorious drunk, as was Keith Moon, Jim Morrison, Pigpen, Janis Joplin, etc.
always wondered why Page's part in the movie was the weirdest
I have heard he repented since and was saved by Jesus from witchcraft and addiction ! Jesus saves !
Where can I find that???
@@TanyaBerezkina55
On your knees, friend
He's closer to you than you can imagine
Say this out loud,
"Jesus, I don't understand all of this but I choose to use my free will and my belief to say that You are Lord and Savior. Be my Savior and teach me who You are, please. Amen"
That's all you have to do. The rest will fall in line.
He hears you.
He's alive.
The cross is empty.
The tomb is empty.
He is risen from the dead.
He is soon returning🎉
Nope. Nothing to repent for.
This is repetitive filler with no real info. Don't waste your time.
I’m my opinion, this only made him more popular. I love zeppelin for their music, not for how or who the choose to worship. 🤘🏼
And if he sacrificed a young boy for his fame…you still like him?
Good for Jimmy. No doubt it made him a better person.
This was the same 4 sentence paragraph pre-order for the first 10 minutes. At least, that's as long as I could make it.....
I thought it was over & replaying @1st
Im sure Jimmy would get up and walk out when things like this were mentioned so can't see him talking too much about it in front of an audience and some things shouldn't be mentioned even in small company?
The original guitarist into ceremonial black magic.
He did achieve great power.
He won't be able to use those "Powers" in hell. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If 12 year olds count.
💥If we all pray for them / that would be much more POWERFUL than any evil wishes & GOD is ever so forgiving!! 👈🏼
According to post replies ill stick to just listening to Led Zeppelin music can`t` go wrong there
Page 360s his head while eating split pea soup yet never plays a bad guitar.
Whatever he did it certainly did work
Jimmy really opened up.
WHO is the guy in glasses at 3:12?
STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN:
In a January 1982 broadcast of the Trinity Broadcasting Network television program Praise the Lord hosted by Paul Crouch, it was claimed that hidden messages were contained in many popular rock songs through a technique called backmasking.
One example of such hidden messages that was prominently cited was in "Stairway to Heaven".[68] The alleged message, which occurs during the middle section of the song ("If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now...") when played backward, was purported to contain the Satanic references: "Here's to my sweet Satan / The one whose little path would make me sad whose power is Satan, / He'll give you, he'll give you 666 / There was a little tool shed where he made us suffer, sad Satan."
Well done you figured it out how ?
@@RobertMajor-jq2keYou can't be serious.
Hell is real place
No, its not.
@@grimlund Yes it is!
Ask Sam Kinison about HELL!!!!😮😮😮
@@forestsnow6508 Why Sam Kinison?
Heaven & hell are a figment of the imagination.
Duh.. Zoso is a symbol for Saturn which rules Capricorn, Jimmy's Sun sign. Plant's symbol of a feather within a circle represents the feather of Ma’at, the ancient Egyptian goddess of truth, justice, harmony, and balance. It's also a pen. JPJ's 3 circle symbol represents a confident and competent individual. In Celtic mythology, the number three is held in highest regard. Bonham's symbol is a Triquetra, created by the Celts to symbolize the relationship between Mother, Father and child
Pagey is about as evil as Mr. Rogers. He's kind and considerate of others to a fault. No doubt he could talk sh*t about lots of people but he never does. Even when other musicians cross him he doesn't say anything bad about them.
Nonsense. So many of us dipped our toes into the occult and various mysticisms but most only scratched the surface. Page was mostly focused on music which occupied his time not being steeped into heavy occult practice. This is BS just like phony annoying voice of the moderator
A lot of this is confirmed in Wikipedia. Sad to hear it.
I had a laugh.He´s just an ordinary man.
Crowley pronounced correctly it’s Crow- ly. 🖤
A pretty good essay.
Wanting to learn people’s thoughts on it, doesn’t mean a thing, it’s no different then people’s obsession with the Bible. If Pages interest causes bad things, why doesn’t the Bible protect those who obsess over it. Sound more like jealousy over Page’s exceptional talent.
Exceptional? A lot of those songs weren't even his.
@@ThursoBerwick my opinion, other then a line or two being similar, they were nothing like the originals.
@@sicotshit7068 They were successfully sued. Some of them are quite blatant.
Are you jealous of the thieves who stole your bicycle?
Every song on the first 5 albums were stolen.
Sadly he damned his soul. Not worth it at all.
Mr . Inteligence don´t be so rediculous : SOULS DOES NOT EXIST AS . HEAVEN AND HELL DOES NOT EXIST AS WELL . WAKE UP MAN .
@@monkeyrevolution1964
You're so wrong. All of that not only exists, but it's more real than this world. I had experiences with the spirit world and have first hand experience, so don't find out the hard way. Either way, you'll find out.
Hopefully Jimmy repents and turns to God the Father and Lord Jesus before it's too late.
@@ericbitzer5247 Honestly. The only reason you aren't a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Sikh is because of the place and culture you were born into.
No content here - yawn
Jesus Christ said in Luke 16:19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
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Not really relevant, you just used it to vomit your belief over everyone because deep down you want everyone to think like you do. You can be King of the world where everyone is just like you, agrees with you, thinks just like you do, and likes the smell of your farts. If only you could convince them by some common doctrine.
Rock n roll period is magic it’s the force to deal with the 7 deadly sins and smash it but page Blackmore box iomi yes they are goth guys any one of the can switch bands and still sound great the yardbirds did this even before page it really came from Kieth relf who payed his price
chichoo chichoo chichoo
Alistair Crawley’s view on the law was completely impractical all it would do is get you thrown in prison for doing stupid shit
My friends had David Cassidy posters, I had walls of Jimmy Page, Zeppelin, and Rush... 😂
And for the Satanic Panic fear mongers... I've been a pagan and witch for about four decades. No possessions, demons, and horrible spirits. Just an open mind, Love, and Nature. 💚
You're lucky. Those things are real.
You're doing it wrong.
@fgoindarkg 🙄 I don't practice ceremonial magick or summon dark energies. Please don't be ridiculous. Everything I believe in is a celebration of nature, both it's days and nights.
And you'll never have to worry about anything supernatural happening to you. Because you are already lost . Why would you be let on. Nah! That's a secret strongly kept from you. Lest you awaken to the truth. And your soul be lost to them. Wheras now its a fate as good as sealed for you my friend.
Blessed Be Sister
Never heard someone talk so much and tell nothing in process 😊
Just saying the same thing but with different words over and over again like a hamster on a wheel!!!
THUS... The mystery remains a mystery and makes for 🤔 interesting folklore!!! However; Nonetheless, should be harnessed and controlled rather than left to chaos!!! Always... Remaining aware is key!!! Should you waiver when dealing with these forces ..... SERIOUS consequences could occur!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Interesting documentary!!! 💯 🤔 No puzzle that it can be controversial... Some things are just to remain unknown; but it never hurts to question. Same thing goes for anything else!!! Just have to know when enough is enough... Or when charging forward is necessary!!! This topic has intrigued me for some time... ALWAYS keep your guard up!!!💯
This much is true and that's what you're supposed to hear. Again and once more (again) his already known story isn't telling anything unknown to his fans that will take whatever they can get to hear from their hero.
Crowley--pronounced Crow(as in bird) and ley(lee).Simple really,except if you're American.
Aleister pronounced it this way---not American English,BUT English !
I fell asleep 3 times during this video
This is just bad, and Crowley didnt bought boleskini to "summon dark forces" it was to summon his holy guardian angel 😅🤘
Its between page and God keep one thing in mind people christ is Real but Religion is A lie .
It's unfortunate that Page became
enamored with dark occultism but
missed the truth of Jesus Christ
Followers of Jesus are held to Limits & Decency, while Page was/is compelled to live outside of them.
@@marcfalsetti9381 Yeah, the decency that allows kids to die in wars, hungry people to starve in gutters, animals to be treated like shit, the planet we depend on to be plundered You must feel very proud of your "decency" You are filth. .
@@marcfalsetti9381 And yet some would like to class deceny as something they themselves would like to define.
BS Mystesysm is not evil and occult means secret.
He was most likely a member. And he isnt going to reveal details is he
He liked very young types.
If if wasn't true they could be sued for making this video
Great music. The rest is just bunk!
After 10 minutes, I realised I was correct : this narrator would just keep chanting the same 5 or 6 trivial nothingburger presumptions over and over. Even before 2 minutes, I could see this possibility was very likely. Doubtless, the uplouder felt by reading this rubbish like he was the host of SNL’s Goth Talk, we would end up hearing the whole vid before realising he works at Cinnabons.
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Dude. Gag me with a Tim Burton video cassette. Booooooooooring. Kirk out.
I am not sure why this has to start with the day he was born. If you’re watching this, you’ve heard that story 10,000 times. Edit this thing to where it’s only page talking. Not this speaker telling me page picked up the guitar as a young man.
Bull, he didnt worship the devil, hes to much in love with people. Im quite sure he did not participate in demon rituals...please
So did how many other people.why do this to someone who has brought us such beautiful memories through his music ...Jimmy turn it around on them !!!!! Oh really were y'all there? If so to to know this much one had to indulge themselves how bout that 🙄
No. 1... A lot of those melodies are other people's and no 2, do you know the age of some of the folk he was involved in?
Occult meaning Hidden Knowledge.
There are some Doors that never should be opened.
In the Garden of Eden .
Tree of Knowledge was Forbidden .
Wisdom is from GOD.
Knowledge can be a Deadly Foe.
Jimmy Page I would hope would indulge in Jesus as Lord and only Saviour .
Jimmy was an Alter Boy in his younger Years.
I pray his interests in his later years was to Save his Soul .
Knock on the Door Jimmy.
Jesus Awaits.
Amen brother I pray that too
The Garden of Eden doesn't exist. Can't stand people that interpret the bible literally. It is not a primary historical source. It is a work of literature. You do know that the Gospels were written 80-100 years after the death of Christ RIGHT,???
I'm a minute and a half in, and they've already mispronounced "Crowley."
I hope he didn't participate in some of the really horrible rituals.
When time speeds up the shadows scream .
What a bunch of crap. You might want to do some research before you make this crap. At least learn how to pronounce Crowley's name, Thelema, and Boleskine.
Their success was based on talent and borrowing alot of obscure old black blues artits riffs and lyrics.
It would interfere with his lordship, his knighthood get it.
This video is nothing but a U.K. voice talent reading a prepared script to create one more attempt at confoundment of what has become common public knowledge, with serious esoteric knowledge. This began with Led Zeppelin's rise in musical popularity during the 1970's. There's no connection from this source with anything but ordinary rock music and celebrity journalism reporting combined with generalized commentary, dressed up with a little eerie music and wording that repeats what has repeatedly already appeared in publicly available books, magazines, as well as audio and video media. This piece attempts to promote a sense of mystique about Mr. Page for less informed fans. I think he does have a sense of mystique, but it radiates through kindness towards others throughout his career and life. The commentator attempts to hype mystique with an insistent reliance on the consistent ambiguity of available published knowledge. I would suggest everyone who takes the time to watch and listen to this video, to please think for yourselves. All one one can deduce from this video is that a code of personal conduct still comes down to "Do what you will, with the guidance of universal love (agape) while doing your best to cause no harm to others."
Irritating!!!!!!! .....lies lies lies. LIES. .....the best way you can see what someone is really all about is if you PAUSE the screen and there's so much information there, which you can't normally see without pause.x