Would you support a crackdown on benefits? Feat. Ava Santina & James Max | Jeremy Vine
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- The Tories were on the defensive yesterday after the Prime Minister's D-Day gaffe.
They announced plans to put benefit reform at the heart of their election campaign.
Rishi Sunak has pledged to cut £12 billion from the welfare bill. And the way he plans to do it is by limiting people being able to claim benefits by citing mental health conditions such as depression and anxiety.
Spending on benefits for people of working age who have a disability or health condition is expected to rise from £69 billion to £90 billion in the next four years.
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Anybody that votes Tory, needs to be checked for Mental Health issues 😢
They do, but there's no services available to them. Their own party have eradicated them!
😂@@ItWasAcceptableInThe80s
Tory voters are not mental just nasty people as they love to hate the most vulnerable, the disabled, young people and all foreigners.This policy is sadly right up their street.
Also Labour crap
Well that's a well balanced point of view lol. Anyone who doesn't share your political point of view has mental health issues? How very tolerant of you
Picking on genuine ppl that have genuine health conditions. This Government is making it nearly impossible for ppl to eat.
Yet the lowest income houses are the fattest. That don’t add up.
@@tonyjones2838 can you be more specific?
which benefits? the ones mps get? the ones business get? the ones pensioners get? the ones banks get? the ones the rich get? oh the pittance the poor get? typical.
Pensioners get no benifits otherwise your post is ok
@@peteraston4753 The pension is classified as a benefit DWP the department for work and guess what pensions and what do the DWP oversee??? Yup Benefits might want to do your research.
Cracking down on the poor and disabled is abhorrent! How disgusting of the Conservatives! What about cracking down on the super rich who aren't paying a fair share of TAX!!!!!!!!
More inhumanity and cruelty from the Tories and their supporters.
Newsflash. Not everyone who claims benefits need them
@@catscan2022majority do especially the disabled
@@paulchadwick9419 depends on the disability i would say and whether its a genuine disability or just a way for people to avoid work. And definitely not the supposed carers (ie relatives) who dont necessarily have to do anything to claim the benefit - except know someone who is claiming PiP
So as he showed in stats it’s only This country claim to be that sick. Why ? Called high percentage of lazy sh1ts. Genuine cases are not this many.
What about the £18 billion in benefit that goes unclaimed every year?
It go,es to the treasury
@@peteraston4753 Then into some donor or crony's Cayman Island bank account.
What about the Royals benefits, and the Tories fiddled benefits!!😮
Exactly!!
Unbelievable to target the most vulnerable in society target the off shore tax evaders the Tory Rishi government are cruel
This is the government fault. I've lost my job because of long-term illness. I've suffered a massive stroke, my heart rate is racing, every day, I've got asteo heartritis in my both knees, I cannot stand for long neither sit for long either. I'm facing horrible horrible pain every day. I was made homeless, my mental health as gone through the roof. I always been an independent person, the last thing was to claim benefits, but my back is against the wall I have no choice. The bottom line is I cannot get an appointment at the hospital to saut my problems out. Whose fault is this, the Conservative government. Now they are giving sick people a hard time, it's unfair. God is watching 👀.
I worked in care and through the government I have become very Ill and can’t work , I became very Ill through the covid vaccine which the government said it was compulsory to have to carry on working in care and I enjoyed my job at the time now I regret having the vaccine.
This is the Tory old game benefits lazy work shy disabled mental health problem people swinging the lead give us a break the is nearly 3000 fod banks in the uk think about that kids on free school meals and parents in work but low wages.
Did they accept you couldn't work through a work capability assessment? I have one next week for a progressive genetic liver disease, & I am geared up for having a battle. DWP seem to be awarding young women with mental health problems mostly at the moment if the Universal credit group I go on is anything to go by. It's shocking what they expect you to live on when sick. What happened to the safety net we used to have in this country?
Im sorry u r suffering so much. I became paralysed seven years ago and on bed rest for last three years coz of a stage four pressure sore. I am in constant nerve pain and discomfott. My pip care is paid to council towards my care package and i struggle to pay for other help and high bills. We do not need this. X
What baffles me with the Tories is they made being on benefits far more punitive and it hasn't worked so they think lets make it even more punitive.
Yup truly definition of madness
If the benefits system isn't working it ought to be reviewed.
If the PM thinks GPs can't diagnose mental health conditions he needs to employ specialists.
His "specialists" just sit there with a tick sheet they know absolutely nothing about sickness or mental health but you're happy to replace a doctor that has studied for many years and who knows their patients with that you are off your nut mate.
Don't want to be utterly skint, don't vote Tory! Also not including disabled people really by lumping them in only with "sick" in this example. Also things like 85% of people with autism are not employed.
My autistic daughter does well then, she works 5 hours a day monday-friday. She wouldn't cope with full time though. I don't think people that don't know an autistic person know how mentally exhausting working is for someone with that disability. She does get standard rate PIP but not any other benefits.
They should go after the individuals and companies who evade their taxes. They also should go after the companies who committed fraud over covid payments.
If the Conservatives haven’t made it so difficult for people to live in this country then they wouldn’t be so many people with anxiety and depression and mental health and when you have these problems you need the NHS which is broken
Or people who claim they have anxiety or depression so they get money for free and don't have to bother working for it
@andydarbyshire well said!!
@@catscan2022so everyone who is genuine should suffer because of a few then!? Get a grip. What about the many politicians/wealthy who don't pay tax with off shore accounts and loopholes to make them even richer. We are talking billions!
@@janewright2800 where did I say that those who are genuine should suffer? The whole system needs an overhaul so that only those truly in need should get help. The welfare system was introduced for need not greed
@catscan you have no idea do you? The cons employ their fake doctors to assess each disabled person, either mentally or physically ,(or both) and don't even listen to them, and take no notice of their real doctor's records. Its degrading and harrowing. Plus the worry that they may have their life line taken from them. Thousands died in last Persecution of the disabled. Look that up. Because they were left in poverty or forced into work when in no fit shape. Plus suicides. The tories caused this mess, not the disabled, poor, working poor, homeless or immigrants. Yet they still live in luxury. So yes all the disabled suffer!!
A lot of sick young and older people. And the tories made them all sick
Maybe people in the UK think, "why should I go and make someone who is already rich, who receives tax breaks as a company and will continue to get richer more money again?". The wages need subsidised by the government and conditions in most sectors are rubbish. We run a slave economy and people just dont care anymore.
The right love to focus on benefits - where most of the recipients are needing that money to live. And all the money they spend at least circulates back in the economy.
Then you have the real benefits - tax breaks. Think MP expenses - whereby they'll score off tens of thousands of pounds a year in "expenses" while simultaneously fobbing off people on benefits for "taking money off working people".
Large businesses getting tax breaks.
Wealthy people paying less tax and hoarding money in savings all tax free (I mean the kind of money that people could live in).
PPE schemes offering "businesses" millions of pounds which have been written off.
Massive hypocrisy.
Too much focus on Benefits - the amount of money "lost" (Lost is a really loose term) there, PALES in comparison to the people fleecing money from the tax payer's purse in the name of "tax breaks" or "tax avoidance" but without the stigmatised name like "benefits".
Well said.
Yet the hotel residents cost the tax payer 8.2M a DAY!!
That's deliberately done. The Tories deliberately don't process immigrants so they can blame everything on them. How hard is it to process people faster?
You mean how hard is it to stop them coming and send them back
@@PLl-jr8xi Where an dhow are you going to send them back ? just repeat what Farage says without having to explain anything or provide an answer
@@kiriakozit was actually Sir Kier Starmer that incentivised illegal migration giving them benefits, housing and NHS in 2003. In the refugee convention..
Labour started it, Tories carried it on.
@lliambunter you've got it the wrong way round mate the people don't repeat what farage says, he's repeating what the majority say, that's why he gets air time. We don't all need to be told what to do. Send them back to France or where they came from either by boat or plane. If the country you send them to has a problem with it, ask them what they're gonna do about it. They'll do nothing but accept their people back. If the world was full of people like you, literally nothing would happen. Some people have the balls to act.
Absolutely ridiculous no mention is made of the 29 billion that walked out the back door, and they do not have a clue were it went. Attacking sick people is disgusting to claw back 12 billion ,shame on them!
I have an inkling they know where it’s gone and who’s got it but it’s not in the government’s interest to go after their own
It's in the ocean somewhere on her yacht.
Why? Benefit scroungers cost us almost nothing.
How about Rishis wife pays tax here. That would almost cover the entire benefits bill.
34% of taxpayers money is spent on welfare which is the bigger than the NHS, policing, debt repayments, education etc. Why should Rishis wife or indeed anyone use their labour or family inheritance that was also earned via their labour to pay for others that are net consumers, most of whom are not critically ill. Welfare was supposed to be a safeness for 1-2% of the population who were critically ill or made redundant through no fault of their own not a lifestyle choice like so many that are depressed because they have no purpose in life or the rise of single mums married to the state because of the decline in traditional life long monogamous relationships.
@@ForbiddenRealms if they stopped tax dodgers ' we wouldn't have this so called problem ' i just think you have a problem ' cameron not declaring £500,000, ayear is a problem & against the law ' why havn't you got a problem with that ' cameron is just one of thousands in this country ' who evade taxes ' your just blind or stupid ' one things for sure ' your miss informed because you have a toxic nature ' or just cant handle the truth 😟
@@ForbiddenRealms "Why should Rishis wife...."pay her fair share of tax in Britain?
I don't think I need to answer that question
@@ForbiddenRealms Do you get vertigo from way up there in ivory your tower?
How many of those claiming sick benefits are on the NHS waiting lists, many of them will be desperate to get back to work.
Not this many in other countries so why should tax payers pay for the non workers?
Unfortunately not many workers/employed folks can phone in to offer an opinion as this is aired when we are at work!
Fishy will be claiming Jobseekers Allowance from July 5 .
Income support has also a disability component
Actually he won’t. MPs who lose their seats are paid for four months after.
And these benefits don't exist anymore it's all under universal credit now
He has more than £6000 in savings 😂
@@moomin7461 he can hide it under his floorboards.
Just appalling. Many people with mental health go through hell and this government treat it like it's nothing or totally easy to deal with. There will be even more poverty and death's. Just the threat of this is stressing the already depressed who are seriously struggling. Which makes the problems even worse. Depression can come at any time in life. Lets hope the cons or any party that supports this never has to experience this totally awful illness!! Or maybe i wish they would, even if just for a day!
I believe most on UC are capable of working but there has to be jobs for them to do , attacking people on PIP is scandalous, he want to take money of the disabled is absolutely disgusting thru are on PIP for a reason
Most on UC are working. Unfortunately, they don't earn enough to live on, because the employers do not pay enough, so the government has to make up the difference.
This Tory trick has worked a treat on you got you blaming others rather than them some people are just too gullible here I have some union jack decorated pet rocks and shares in London Bridge going cheap.
Most on Universal credit are working full time. I am old enough to remember when you either worked, or claimed job seekers allowance or income support if you were a single parent. Something has gone very wrong if businesses have the biggest profits ever, yet the tax payer are subsidising the wages they pay. All very odd & probably broken Capitalism I suppose.
Dont worry about their mates fiddling millions,get the little man who cant fight back.Usual tories,be strong tthe weal.Thatchers playbook.
We need start looking more at the people at the top rather than the ones at the dead bottom
Just got told my UC claim will be closed because I missed the deadline to accept my commitments by 1 day. Why starve when i can just end it quickly
Yes a crackdown on benefits when it comes to junkies, alcoholics and people who can work bit refuse to
Enjoy the massive uptick in crime.
Which we won't be able to do anything about as the police, court and prison services have been cut to the bone.
Not many employers will employ people with the problems you describe, because they would be a liability and a possible danger to others. We as a society need to tackle why so many people are addicted to drugs and alcohol in the first place. People who refuse to work are already sanctioned under the current system.
You're such a kind, caring and compassionate soul I bet you're a real hit with the ladies
Imagine being a soldier sent to fight pointless wars on behalf of politicians. You come home and suffer mental health problems as a result of the horrors you've witnessed. The government who sent you to fight then want to take away your support.
I think owen jones said that more money was being spent on administration of benefits rather than actually benefits. Costs more to keep job centres open and pay civil servants working in them but the benefit figures do not show this.
Yes there is a lot of people who don't want work they are as well off on benefits
yes I would!as the DWP,I would give me ten million pounds and then tell me that you can only claim benefits for another forty years ,then your claim will be closed for at least six weeks before you can even make a new claim!yes you're right!as Willie Whitelaw said!it's time for a short,sharp shock!let's just hope that it is as effective,potent and proactive as that was eh!
The worries are that the DWP Would get everything wrong!!
I am on benefits, and I have no issues at all if i need to be re-assed. That's how it should be, I want nothing that I am not entitled to as said NO one should be better off from being on benefits it is the to help keep your head above water not a way of life
And remove MPs expenses
jeremy your wrong the working age is varying at the moment i had to retire at 66 not 65 its going up for each age group why haven't you researched it
i support benefits reform. i support the stopping of abuse degradation and theft from benefit claimants. i support stopping the abuse and actually helping. before you debate get the facts ! you cant debate based on here say. treating the poor like scum creates the issues were seeing. you reap what you sew. our gov spend like money is going out of fashion. we give everything to illegal immigrants. and we pay for it with stolen money from the poor and taxes. we pit the poor n rich against each other while screwing both. we have needed reform for a long time. the abuse and degradation of those on benefits all tared as scrounging lazy thief's. does not help anyone. if you want depression and anxiety. go get abused by u.c. who am i ? i am a ceo business owner. im also still having to claim on my poverty insurance having paid in for decades. just to survive. frankly i could not survive without the extra income. i can no longer afford to advertise due to rising bills. i also have ptsd anxiety depression etc from being tortured by a covert narc for many years. i still cant escape to this day. i have physical issues too. im actually signed off. and i insist on working and im treated like scum. they are an equal rights abuser. same brush for everyone. don't be manipulated by the lies. go get the truth. when were on the same page then and only then can we discuss what needs to change and why.
Yes i would, it should NEVER ever be that your better off on benefits than working
You're not.
I worked for nearly 50 years I retire next year but I never been out of work untill now , my rent is paid i get a reduction in council tax I have received all the extra payments that Rishi gave us all due to the cost of living I also get ESA I currently of sick from work due to my manager not liking older people working in the store but I am living comfortably thanks to our benefit system in the UK the conservatives have made sure that I still have a good standard of living hopefully when I do go back to work for every poundi earn the government will only take 55p back so it will be better for me to work ,
I'd like to find somebody that is actually better off on benefits you really didn't think that one out did you gammon lad
@@user-hj4ug2yq5x So are telling us that you are milking the system and that you do not actually need those benefits well then you're one of those committing benefit fraud and have just admitted to doing it damn you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.
No I not fiddling benefit and never have this is the first time I ever had to claim it , I have paid into the system for nearly 50 years and never claimed a thing , what I am saying is that the state gives you enough to live on I am genuinely off sick from work at the moment I havd been assessed by my doctors and the benefit system and both have said at the moment I have limted capability, ( for uour information I was in hospital and nearly died and they did tell my family I may not pull though, ) hopefullyI want to return to work heath permitting if I do then my benefits go down , I do only have 10 months left till I retire but would like to carry on working after that I started work when I was 16 and have never been out of work in my life, NO one including myself should EVER better off by not working , but if you are ill and can not work then you should get the minimum to keep your head above water which is my case and I thank the goverment for that, I know people who claim every benefit they have they have no intention of working they have wide screen TV game consuls free food from food banks one person even had all his driving lessons paid for by the system he not worked for 30 years plus but when he retires he get a full state pension without working or paying a penny into it , where I have worked for nearly 50 years its not right, the benefits system as said is there to help when things get tough NOT AWAY OF LIFE,
So James..you’ll be giving back your gov pension..🤭🤭🤭🙄🙄🙄😎
Why dont they leave people alone i cant work like most people i wish i could but my mental health is not good and a employer will look for people who is physically fit and young and mental alright
Ava is so hot
Why is irritating Ava brought into all of these shows, it would be nice to see a down to earth person speak on these issues for a change not someone born into wealth.
I sense your bias may be showing. There's a lot of rich right wingers allowed on, too.
Perhaps because she is intelligent and very articulate not to mention way out your league but maybe they'll get Anne Widdecombe on there for you.
@@Sirlarrythecat always some spinless person without a picture mentioning looks isn't it? plenty of compliments for Ava tho, I hope you realise she won't sleep with you? I didn't mention her appearance, I don't really care what she looks like.. she's still an irritating pretentious person born into privilege.
@@Sirlarrythecat way out of my league? I wasn't trying to sleep with her... 🤣 She's the most irritating pretentious person they have on this show
The lack of education on mental health in this country is staggering.
I'm sure all those ones not working because they are caring for someone, would be thrilled if the government provided a carer for their family member, then they could get back to work. They'll earn more than the 80 quid a week they get for caring. Having said that, the amount of young women getting Limited capability for work & work related activity at the moment through DWP for mental health, is huge. I am about to have a work capability assessment for a physical disability & I know I will have to battle for it, because they seem to focus on the mental health these days for some reason. I have a progressive genetic liver disease & some days shi**ing through the eye of a needle, & other days feel like throwing up, but they'll expect me to go to work.
Things from what the system already has had should be kept I think, like with esa you were able to do something small like 16 hours per week of something, an example I actually got a college grade for an access class which I'm sure it was a light class in comparison to actual work or full-time college classes but it's something, and also I got a book directed to me specific to the condition I have from a counselling session from years back so I basically don't have to see someone. It may be options like that, that could be considered if a website with books that could help is put up rather than a load of mad changes
Sounds good to me as long as you police it properly. There are a lot of people cocking their leg saying they are depressed.
They need a psychiatric report not just box ticking paperwork. Or fear of questioning people.
blame covid jab for much of the sickness then waiting for years on the NHS for treatment
Mel stride talks bollox.✌️😎✌️
Anxiety 😅😅😅😅 work
No
Vote labour
Come on kier we know you will do it!
About time but too little too late. Far to many work shy lazy sods that can work but choose not to.
If you are still voting tory then you must be enjoying the inhumanity and cruelity being inflicted on the most needy in our country........and that is tory in a nutshell.
They lack empathy.
just listening to Donald from Glasgow. im the same as him after my break up with the ex wife of 16 yrs. ive been off work since 2013. With Psychosis you cannot work if you have an episode, no employer would employ me.....
No one is saying that people should not have benefits its the ones that are fakeing it that should not
Try going down there youself & find out ' you must be stupid ' your being played ' like a guitar ' you are letting youself get strung along ' if you think for one minute your tax will come down ' then your more stupid than you sound 😁
It has been proven that there is No fraud when it comes to people on PIP they are on PIP for a reason so why target them
The issue is, how many genuine cases do you cast into devastating poverty to try to catch out the minority scamming it?
Because those who are playing the system KNOW the system, and won't get caught out easily.
The genuinely ill, however, can easily answer a question badly, and it'll be used against them.
A wrongly closed claim still counts as a closed claim, it's a win to the system.
Can you prove that ' no ' it just the BS you listen to ' just so your toxic nature can feel better ' cameron made cuts years ago ' did your taxes come down ' no ' & as for tax dodgers ' cameron wasn't declaring £500,000, a year ' maybe its this your paying for ' not the £350 a month people get on benifits ' council tax ' water bills ' comunial fees ' shopping ' out of that ' your just toxic ' & proberly complaining about free school breakfast ' your just a very sad person 😟 keep up your fake boring sad life 🤨
@@keithpanton7486Employ more staff to tackle fraud. Universal Credit staff are leaving in droves due to the extreme workload. Many staff have caseloads of more than a thousand claimants, which makes it increasingly difficult to spot fraudulent claims, but DWP funding has been cut since 2010 and their wages frozen for many years. It is not a well paid job and many DWP staff are having to claim UC themselves just to top up their wages.
Tory inhumanity again .......
Cameron and Osborne gv big contact's out to Assess claiments made a balls up then Run away !!Plonker
Yes but only for the dingy divers
There are no jobs anyway
5 million jobs available. So
You are wrong
@@tonyjones2838 ok. I meant not enough and not some that everyone can do x
Does sunak want medical proof of doctors themselves dealing with patients who have issues or something some do take the Mick probably but there are general people that actually suffer that can't work what will it take until someone drops down dead perhaps sorry but it could happen 😮😮😮
Jeremy vine, so depressing 😂😂😂
Rishi sunak is t getting back in
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Get rid of benefits and bring in the basic income plan
They'll never do that.
I hate Sunak, but Farage is obviously being racist... _Our_ history & _our_ culture is exclusionary; saying it's not a shared culture that he is a part of. Many soldiers came from Commonwealth countries to serve. Farage knows that Sunak & his family are equally British; even if he is a stuck up bell-end
Benefits should be handed out by way of vouchers that can't be used to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. People who go to work but earn very little should have their money topped up with cash.
What about people with lifelong illnesses who genuinely cannot work? It seems unfair that they'd never be able to buy a drink again for the rest of their life.
@@RPKGameVids Also, the poorer you are, the more likely you'll be buying second hand, in charity shops, from facebook local groups, etc.
But no, lets take £billions and ensure it all goes straight into Tesco's coffers.
@@keithpanton7486 and what about the burocracy of the voucher system, it would cost a bloody fortune to admin. and no shops would take it.
@@keithpanton7486great point
@@blackbearish Another great way to ensure more money goes from the poorest to Tory donors, right?
All they ever need to do convince right wingers is that it's more about cruelty to the poor, than it is robbing the masses.
pensions is largest payout,,,,
But they paid in their whole life. It's their money
@@PLl-jr8xi many didnt. and a lot of women only paid in til 60. whilst we have to work til 75 to pay for them
They worked & paid pensions for the previous Generations to earn their pension. The young should do the same , not live on benefits.
Pensions are not a benefit,mine is taxed ,do you think all pensioners should live on fresh air when they retire
@@kanedNunableyou are working longer because labour and tory goverments have raided the pension fund to pay for wars and other benifits
We, Europeans, could have helped you, but you choose brexit xenophobia, so good luck...
Jeremy juvenile vine discussing serious topics by making asinine remarks doing silly American and London accent and playing to the camera , makes a daft remark then looks for the camera , the guy has ruins very show he presents
scrap the benefits system
then the poor will steal from the rich...
DOUNUT 😁
The welfare bill is currently unsustainable.....Rishi is right ✅️ More people need to work instead of relying on the welfare system
Jobs don't pay enough. You need to be on at least 50 grand a year just to survive.. why would people work for 25 grand. Average rent is 15000 a year, after council tax shopping etc you'll be putting your self into debt.
Tories spreading more hate and division.
we piss away far more money on tory donors ya melt
So you support a large minimum wage hike to get millions off welfare then? Make employers pay for their staff instead of taxpayers?
How about stopping the lords and mps benifits and stop them robbing the pension fund when there is a shortfall else where