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  • Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS: clcr.me/Tpoyhg ✅ ANDROID: clcr.me/rXwNbS ✅ PC: clcr.me/1WgClp and get a special starter pack 💥Available only for the next 30 days
    mLogic mRack - www.mlogic.com/products/mrack...
    mLogic mTape - www.mlogic.com/products/mtape...
    Snazzy Labs launched a video about Margaret last year-our rescued server that has a 336TB capacity and we use to edit video live over the network via 10 gigabit ethernet. It's been super amazing, but while redundant, it isn't a backup so we're adding Edith to the mix: an i7 Mac mini that communicates with an LTO-8 tape drive made by mLogic.
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  • @snazzy
    @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS: clcr.me/Tpoyhg ✅ ANDROID: clcr.me/rXwNbS ✅ PC: clcr.me/1WgClp and get a special starter pack 💥Available only for the next 30 days
    BTW, I have a new podcast called "Flashback" on Relay FM. We talk about old, failed tech and what we can learn from it. Check it out! relay.fm/flashback

    • @MickTheRus
      @MickTheRus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      We lost our lovely friend Quinn to the dark side of Raid™ shadow legends

    • @GenBumbleBee
      @GenBumbleBee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      well if i was subed i would unsub. raid is from china. do u want corona-chan on your phone?

    • @linyingyen
      @linyingyen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      get a steadicam or stabilizer man... I am about to throw up.

    • @srafiku9388
      @srafiku9388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I fucking hate raid shadow league and thair shitty add

    • @MrChrisCube
      @MrChrisCube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You live in the wrong country, here in Spain we pay about 60 US$/Month for a 600Mbps fibre simetrical bandwith (no transfer cap) and we never pay for the installation fee.

  • @baitboy3191
    @baitboy3191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2399

    Not even Snazzy is safe from RAID shadow legends

    • @DragonKingGaav
      @DragonKingGaav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      🤑

    • @danylovarshavsky7639
      @danylovarshavsky7639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      F

    • @helloimash
      @helloimash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      I've heard they pay really well and it's not hard at all for me to skip over it, so at this point I just don't notice.

    • @wright96d
      @wright96d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You know what else costs $200?

    • @baitboy3191
      @baitboy3191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Alex they do there was a TH-camr with around 350k subs that refused to do an ad placement cause he hates mobile games but they were willing to pay 4 grand.....
      His whole video was about talking how bad RAID shadow legends is and stuff

  • @mmiikkee41
    @mmiikkee41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +894

    Wow. Keeping me glued for 20 minutes with in-depth explanations without being boring seriously needs credit.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Thanks!!

    • @JayDee_24
      @JayDee_24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For real! Quinn is great!

    • @MaxUgly
      @MaxUgly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yea, when he said "are you bored yet?" it really threw me off because I was entranced!

    • @johnmckay1961
      @johnmckay1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, not patronising, not over my head.

    • @gp3328
      @gp3328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaxUgly I didnt even notice him say are you bored yet

  • @RocktCityTim
    @RocktCityTim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    I agree with a good bit of what you present, but here's a bit more input:
    LTO isn't really "open" anymore since only IBM designs and manufactures the drives since LTO-7.
    Any SAS Tape drive can be a Thunderbolt tape drive, all that mLogic has done is hide the adapter in the case.
    LTO tapes are good for tens of thousands of accesses, not a hundred or so. We have LTO-1 tapes in our lab that have over 10,000 full passes and even old DDS-1 tapes (1990-ish) that have closer to 50K write/read passes.
    When you say "the software" keeps track of the file's location on tape, clarify that the LTFS drivers keep track of that. Yoyatta ID depends on the LTFS layer for tape access.
    Access times on an LTO 7 or 8 tape is under 5 minutes (LTO-6 and 5 are under 4 minutes). This means that software that truly manages the tape layer can locate even a 500 byte email file and start the restore in under 5 minutes.
    Be aware that a power loss during tape writing with any LTFS-based solution will result in a completely corrupted tape, not just the data that was being written at the point of failure.
    It would be better to perform the backups from the native file system on the TruNAS/FreeNAS host (Margaret?) rather than via CIFS and the network. You lose filesystem metadata when you do it that way.
    Just a bit of feedback based on 35 years in the backup business.

    • @emu071981
      @emu071981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He should hopefully have a UPS that can last for at least long enough to shut down the storage server gracefully in the event of a power failure. Hooking the tape drive up to that will help ensure graceful power failure there too

    • @lollb454
      @lollb454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shut up nerd

    • @RocktCityTim
      @RocktCityTim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@emu071981 The issue is the write to the tape and the unmounting of the LTFS volume. It's more than just a power interruption. The power loss manager must be able to tell Yoyatta to close the current write and then unmount/eject the tape before shutting things down. This is an LTFS weakness, not a problem in Yoyatta ID.

    • @Adam-de8jm
      @Adam-de8jm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Oh god I can already see that janky power button turning off the computer in the middle of a backup and bricking the drive.

    • @RocktCityTim
      @RocktCityTim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Adam-de8jm Because the LTFS index partition and the EOD marker on the data partition can't be updated in such an event, we've seen a lot of tapes that required very extensive deep recovery runs to get "any" data back off of the tape. Other backup apps like tar, pax, cpio, and bru use the tape as the sequential beast that it is and the worst that happens is the file that was being written at the failure point is incomplete. All of the other data written to that point may be restored with no special handling of the tape.

  • @GoldenGearGrinder
    @GoldenGearGrinder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    People: going crazy over raid shadow legends
    Me: did he just try to remove tape by lighting it on fire?

    • @Skystrike70
      @Skystrike70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Same. He carries a lighter but not a pocketknife? Lol

    • @LocoBuki
      @LocoBuki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Didn’t take him as a smoker till I seen that

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I’m not lol. Lighter was above my gear shelf on my 3D printer.

    • @pluto762
      @pluto762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm guessing you meant lighting, not lightning. He's not Thor (I think...?). :)) But yeah, I was like: what are you doing with that lighter near the cardboard box?

    • @GoldenGearGrinder
      @GoldenGearGrinder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pluto762 forget about the cardboard box, he tried to remove TAPE by lighting it on FIRE.

  • @Monsux
    @Monsux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1007

    I have a solution: Raid Sha.... Skip

    • @springbok4015
      @springbok4015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah. Poo

    • @zeromailss
      @zeromailss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@amiri7392 200? rookie number

    • @Vivi_Strike
      @Vivi_Strike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sponser money...

    • @purpshell
      @purpshell 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The new RAID disk configuration, available today!

  • @allenwarfield
    @allenwarfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +945

    "you know what else costs 200$? an addiction to raid sha..." *coughs because he almost lost his sponsor lol

    • @Top_Cheeze
      @Top_Cheeze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Why?
      That is probably adding to his pay if anything, it is the kind of sneaky marketing that makes people think"huh, its that good after all" because it was staged to look like a "accident"
      How far into their trap do you have to be to not see this?

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      @@Top_Cheeze It was actually a joke and not part of the ad.

    • @Icessassin
      @Icessassin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      You cannot lose a Raid Shadow Legends sponsor.... seriously YTers have tried but because them meme the ad themeselves RSL don't care. Any exposure is good exposure

    • @Gomepez
      @Gomepez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Top_Cheeze lmaooo please don't tell me you are this blind to humor.

    • @AlexandersMashups
      @AlexandersMashups 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Icessassin A German TH-camr literally said that this game is boring and got the cash

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I've always wanted to get into tape, but the drive cost is too prohibitive for me atm

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Can't blame you. Not a cheap enterprise.

    • @MickeyMishra
      @MickeyMishra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      EBAY bro. EBAY. Old drives from last gen? They are $39 bucks. And Old tapes? CHEAP!

    • @santosturmio8189
      @santosturmio8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MickeyMishra really? can you recommend a specific one bro?

    • @Test-bi5rg
      @Test-bi5rg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tape drives before LTO-6 (maybe including LTO-6 now) are a lot cheaper. I purchased a used Quantum LTO-5 from ebay at several hundred dollars, and it worked without any issue. Do use brand new tapes for data storage (actually LTO tapes have a chip inside, which records the read/write statistics.). You will need to wait for some enterprises to update their hardware and sell the outdated ones on ebay.

    • @Wiktorion
      @Wiktorion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Test-bi5rg yeah, I think I paid like 20 bucks for my LTO-2 tape drive. The cheapest drives are the internal ones which are SCSI over LVD so you need a serial interface controller card but the setup is very clean when set up. Just like a regular DVD drive in your PC, except it's a tape drive.

  • @Disaur
    @Disaur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Quinn: This is a very expensive box
    Also Quinn, 10 seconds ago: *Trying to burn the package down with a lighter*

  • @SirCrest
    @SirCrest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    RAIDZ2: Vdev Legends

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I’m dead 😂 😂

    • @dashtesla
      @dashtesla 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love tape and absolutely wouldn't replace that over more fault tolerance since it's not a solution but i keep asking myself why not use one vdev with 24 drives and raid z3? more storage anyway.

  • @ElZamo92
    @ElZamo92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Quinn: This video is sponsored by Ra-
    Me: KING CRIMSON!!!

  • @leoren5128
    @leoren5128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Finally, someone does a video on the current day tape storage technology. All my mates look me as a caveman when I talked with them about the enormous storage space current type can provide.

  • @milo8425
    @milo8425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    >primary motivator is cost
    >everything is apple
    [x] doubt

    • @mickeynissan9887
      @mickeynissan9887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm not sure what that was about, but I've been using LTO tapes for years in enterprise applications and have never heard of OS X support or that odd piece of software.
      Every enterprise backup solution in the past 15 years has full support for LTO tape backup storage devices. Including free open source solutions like Bacula - which would have easily ran on his HP DL380 Gen 8 back there.
      Having said that, an Apple Mac mini is not enterprise grade, not redundant, no out-of-band management and is completely out of place in that regard - but it is A LOT CHEAPER then an actual enterprise solution if for some reason he didn't want to co-host a backup solution on that rack server he already has running.

    • @cashnelson2306
      @cashnelson2306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      did this comment come from 2005 or what

    • @nimistar01
      @nimistar01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cashnelson2306 isn't that cheese grater apple computer horribly expensive?

    • @reaperreaper5098
      @reaperreaper5098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nimistar01 Compared to prosumer machines and EPYC, yes. Compared to other server grade systems, not really, no.

    • @reaperreaper5098
      @reaperreaper5098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Franz Xaver Fuchsberger The Mac Pro is a server grade machine. Every design decision other than the desktop case itself (they sell the same exact thing in a rack mount case) has server use in mind.
      Hex channel, ECC memory.
      GPU SKUs that undergo workstation+server validation.
      Extended IO (PCIe Multiplexing) that doesn't restrict what IO you can use.
      Passive heatsinks on processors, active case cooling.
      Proprietary PSU configuration to facilitate the addition, removal, or replacement of hardware (MPX modules).
      Dedicated hardware acceleration module (Afterburner card).
      Twin 10GbE ports.
      Hell, the best argument for your side is that the Xeon W chips are marketed as high end workstation chips. But that's a tad disingenuous, as the specific subset that Apple is using are derived from Xeon Scalable processors, just without the scalable features.

  • @KarlMathiasMoberg
    @KarlMathiasMoberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    As an enterprise IT sysadmin - THANK YOU for showing that tape is the thing to use for backups and not jerry-rig solutions like Linus has done for his projects. Tape is cheap, and as long as you label your tapes properly and have a good application for managing it, it's super flexible. Very nice video! :D

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thanks!! Hoping to get a library soon.

    • @Toblehrone
      @Toblehrone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I thought that Linus made one video about tape storage once? But yeah, it's really interesting! If I did require a backup, I'd probably try to do tape as well (as one of them).

    • @bronekkozicki6356
      @bronekkozicki6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@snazzy next thing you need to do is figure out your off-site data storage. My ex-employer (looong time ago, when DDS was a thing) rented a small bank vault for that. I visited it weekly (or was it daily?) replacing backups.

    • @apresthus87
      @apresthus87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! As a former sysadmin this brings back memories of storing tapes in vaults and inserting new ones every single day :)

    • @LucidThought
      @LucidThought 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You ain't taking backup seriously unless your tapes are stored in disused cold war bunkers.. VMS & DLT tapes FTW ;-D

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    This time you outlinused Linus on backups

    • @Klub4143
      @Klub4143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He has already doing a video on this.

    • @oren8699
      @oren8699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesnt he have like a 3 Petobyte one
      Edit: 1 Petobyte

    • @crzb
      @crzb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@oren8699 Petobyte

    • @lexibigcheese
      @lexibigcheese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oren8699 Petobyte

    • @bigpod
      @bigpod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no he didnt linus does backups with tapes for a while now

  • @MrKelsomatic
    @MrKelsomatic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Snazzy Labs is quickly approaching a singularity wherein the rate at which they shoot video to explain their video storage solutions outpaces their ability to acquire new storage for the additional videos.

  • @findursol
    @findursol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You’re literally the only person creating content on here that I watch every video from. You cannot make bad content and the improvements in production quality have shown up more and more over time. They’re generally family friendly and I can show them without reservation to others. Please keep this up. Seriously. A+.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you so much!

  • @Ren_0096
    @Ren_0096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Did he just say YOLO in 2020?
    *Subscribed*

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      😂

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. So what if he did?

    • @TechnoLadz
      @TechnoLadz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Kitty Lover Man! Not many people say it anymore

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, @@TechnoLadz, that's mildly interesting.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still say it sometimes when I go out on a limb with something I don’t trust

  • @umersalman1
    @umersalman1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    What the hell? I pay 30$ per month for my fiber connection for 50 up and 50 down! In Pakistan!
    What kind of internet provider is this??

    • @Justgoodvids
      @Justgoodvids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Umer Salman it’s just North American crap we have to deal with.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      A business internet provider. Residential internet is much cheaper here in the USA but our office is in a business park so we're stuck with paying the big bucks.

    • @p3chv0gel22
      @p3chv0gel22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Well
      I pay 39€ per Month (how is the course currently?) in Germany for ~0.3 mbit/s down 0.1 up
      But well, we are a special case :D

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      $14/month for 100mbps down 4mbps up... Not sure if it's a good deal.

    • @GameHunter47
      @GameHunter47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lol, 10 bucks for 100/100 here in Czech Rep

  • @weeniehut4703
    @weeniehut4703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Me: Lets out a big *sigh*
    “Are you bored yet?”
    Me: wtf

  • @goldenpiece7087
    @goldenpiece7087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NO ONE in my life pulled me that strong to the video before. For over 6 years of my youtube usage I've never watched a video for 20 minutes and listen to it.

  • @lr2582
    @lr2582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    once again, raid shadow legends proceeds with their quest to sponsor all the youtubers. GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL

  • @evindrews
    @evindrews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "this years, 2018 mac mini"

  • @beoxsgaming9388
    @beoxsgaming9388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In one scene: "Are you bored yet?"
    In next scene: grabs lighter to open box
    Me: "Getting more interesting. This is definitely not going to end well." Thinks about getting popcorn.

    • @TheNewTimeNetwork
      @TheNewTimeNetwork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Next scene: "This is a VERY expensive and overpriced box."
      A lighter is definitely the right tool to use.

    • @beoxsgaming9388
      @beoxsgaming9388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNewTimeNetwork Right tool for the right job. What could possibly go wrong? (munches on popcorn)

  • @kysputnikable
    @kysputnikable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What benefits does Raid shadow legends have over raid 6 or raid 10?🤔

  • @jeinnerabdel
    @jeinnerabdel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What the hell happened to the focus on this video? It's like you recorded it with a phone that had issues getting things on first plane.

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm pretty sure they're doing manual focus in this video.

  • @crowing7
    @crowing7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Working at a corporate datacenter, we have an absolute fortune invested in LT06 tapes for long-term storage.

  • @DONK8008
    @DONK8008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    7:08 "their magnetic so they last forever.
    No, they last a long time but will fail eventually. Floppy discs are a prime example of this.

    • @jeposton
      @jeposton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Floppy's are closer to hard drives than tape.

    • @rehoboth_farm
      @rehoboth_farm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most tape media is guaranteed for around 30 years. I've seen older tapes in service. I say that media should be temporary if data is to be permanent. Newer media is always denser and faster. Copying old data to new media every 20 years or so would be a great practice.

    • @jeposton
      @jeposton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rehoboth_farm What about VCR tape. Most of that is now unrecoverable. (I know it can still be recovered but a process to do so is no longer economy feasible.)

    • @rehoboth_farm
      @rehoboth_farm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jeposton VHS tape is not made to the same standards that certified media like LTO or other backup media are.
      A few years ago I worked in the seismic industry and we were still using a lot of DLT IV tape media that was first available in the mid 90's so it is a contemporary of VHS. We also used older media. We had an occasional failure on tapes that had been used over and over again that were very old. I spent many hours dismantling tape drives and trying to save tapes. I've put more than one into a waste basket. Luckily we normally had more than one copy or were able to reproduce it from earlier versions of the data.
      Ultimately the reason that we began moving it all to newer media was because it took so much more space to store and was so time intensive to read and write the old media. At the time we chose LTO5 because it was the best price/size storage for our needs including drive cost, server/interface card cost, etc. LTO6 had come out but was still VERY expensive. The quality of a high end storage tape like an LTO is much better technology now than it was on DLT tape from the 90's and it was head and shoulders better quality than video tape.
      However, to your point I always preached that media had to be temporary if Data was to be permanent. All media eventually fails and must be replaced even if it is on a 20 year cycle. It is a cost/performance/longevity and other factors type of problem.
      Cost is a really big deal. Now you can buy an LTO8 cartridges for about $150. That is 30TB of storage space if your data compresses well. How is that cost compared to equal hard disk space? Then compare it to RAID 6 storage. Another huge consideration is that if you already own a bunch of LTO 5 drives and tapes why would you want to go spend a bunch of money to replace them with LTO 8 if it is all working just fine?
      One great thing about the LTO format tapes is that the drives will usually read 2 previous generations and be able to write one previous generation. So an LTO 5 can read and write an LTO 4 and read and LTO 3. This really can help in upgrades and tape copies. You can also still buy a brand new LTO 5 tape drive and tape. This is because industrial types of equipment like this have a longer expected life span.
      Of course ALL media has issues. CDs and DVDs have their share of issues. Hard disks will demagnetize and have mechanical failure. Tape has been an industry standard long term bulk backup solution in various iterations going back to the 60's. There has been an enormous amount of engineering involved. It isn't going away anytime soon.
      All of the largest companies in the world use this solution. What is your solution? How would you backup a few petabytes of data that can't be compressed? Could you guarantee the media for 20 years? If you have a better way then you should talk to IBM or Quantum.
      I hope the information helps.

    • @jeposton
      @jeposton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rehoboth_farm Thanks.

  • @robinwill
    @robinwill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's great that you're giving interns a chance to lead the camera. I hope he's already learned a lot from this experience.

  • @LucasCosta10
    @LucasCosta10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dude, if I were your insurance provider I would definitely increase your fee after seeing how you open boxes.

  • @FinlayDaG33k
    @FinlayDaG33k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Snazzy: "I have a solution"
    *Raid: Shadow Legends ad*
    me: "So your solution is to play... Raid Shadow Legends...???"

    • @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512
      @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it playable on tape
      Of fucking course not

    • @harvey4385
      @harvey4385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 u englis not gud

    • @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512
      @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harvey4385 bruh get out

    • @KyttaIsHere
      @KyttaIsHere 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noooo. The solution is to use the *RAID* drive array. This technology can create copies over multiple drives, kinda like the *shadows* of the original data. The technology is quite *legend*-ary

    • @unguidedone
      @unguidedone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait an ad? your on youtube with out an adblocker? u dumb so dumb

  • @gondayi
    @gondayi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean, the plans for an entire Death Star were stored on tape. Seems legit.

  • @romanmaksimov2024
    @romanmaksimov2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it funny how Snazzy makes videos about how he's figuring out ways to store the videos he makes for us! Love the content

  • @ЭтоДрючинский
    @ЭтоДрючинский 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Here in Moscow, Russia, we can (and pretty much everybody) have 100mbps FIBER for about 7 bucks+ a month. 200 from ~15$.
    And Alex Brin called us a "snowy Nigeria"
    0_0

    • @David-nh7px
      @David-nh7px 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      While available, can the average person, who is not well off, afford that? You're talking in dollars, which seems cheap to people in America, but aren't to a large portion of the world.

    • @studioxxswe
      @studioxxswe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ping from your Swedish neighbour here, got 1000/1000 fiber and a backup cable 500/50

    • @artyom5494
      @artyom5494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Auto Pi afford internet for 7$? Sorry, what? Of course yes

    • @ЭтоДрючинский
      @ЭтоДрючинский 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@David-nh7px sure. Even for those who are on the edge of poverty it's not a huge deal.

    • @bmxscape
      @bmxscape 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      im in the boonies in canada and i pay $350 for tv, phone and internet and i have the fastest internet i can get. i top out at 400 kb/s download (5 mbit)

  • @alandurazo5577
    @alandurazo5577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Most interesting Tech channel on YT. Keep up to good work bro. I shook my head no after you asked if we were bored lol.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha good. Thanks so much!

  • @daniellombardi3670
    @daniellombardi3670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man... I just love these type of 'servery' videos..pleeaaaseee upload as much of them as possible!

  • @ericsg95
    @ericsg95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this awesome guide! I find your videos are more and more informative and helpful in setting up something complicated. This is especially true for your recent AMD Hackintosh DIY!! Luv it! Great job Snazzy Labs! With your wonderful content, no doubt you will run out of storage soon!!

  • @gerowen
    @gerowen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    13:06 I'd put some 3-in-1 oil on the spindle that little arm is sitting on to see if that let it release.

  • @YugimanTeam
    @YugimanTeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Hey interesting fact/experience I just had with ZFS....
    We lost our OS drive to a power loss, thought all the data was gone (luckily we hadnt really started using it yet) Got a new Drive, reinstalled CentOs and ZFS, and I was able to import in the Zpool like nothing happened at all, data intact!
    TLDR:
    You an completely replace and reinstall the OS Drive and your Zpool will remain (if nothing wrong with the drives)

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      True! Super neat. We had something similar because we're booting our server off of an SD card (really, really not ideal, but HP prevents non-HP booting in their BIOS) and lost the SD card but one more install with FreeNAS and it imported our pool and all prior settings in a jiffy!

    • @YugimanTeam
      @YugimanTeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@snazzy yea btw....save any config files you can especially if using CentOs! It definitely came in handy for custom settings (non ZFS settings)!

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like that FreeBSD allows you to boot from ZFS, making a separate OS drive unnecessary. From what I understand this is also possible in some Linux distros, but is perhaps more complicated to configure.

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, duh, that's why you go software RAID route instead hardware RAID route

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Quinn, your videos flow very well. This one dragged on for a while but was great information. I appreciated it dude.

  • @shadowhwk99
    @shadowhwk99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Quinn! I love the idea of using commercial networking/server gear in a small business setting and seeing hhow it worked out.

  • @ElevationImaging
    @ElevationImaging 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After seeing this, I really want you to do a video on data organization/management... That YoYatta software looks very interesting for streamlining the workflow of pulling images/videos of memory cards and doing some organization for you.

  • @jnx4803
    @jnx4803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Strips on credit cards are also magnetic and they are clean as soon as magnets get to them :D

  • @jehumelchor
    @jehumelchor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I watch you videos I feel smarter, and snazzier! Thanks man. I hopefully I never have to solve a problem like this.

  • @jauffins
    @jauffins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these types of videos. Server gear is so neat.

  • @TeeKaaY
    @TeeKaaY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Focus is shady sometimes during the video :(
    I love your videos very much, when you upload I drop everything and watch your video so please take this as constructive criticism.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Noted. Will improve. Thanks!

  • @alexander-jl6cs
    @alexander-jl6cs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:40
    *To Add : You can initialise new LTO-7 tape cartridges as type-M in a LTO-8 drive giving 9TB capacity for the same price or 0.004$/GB.

  • @techvelocity9923
    @techvelocity9923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved it when you were using a lighter to open that cardboard box.

  • @happygilmore2100
    @happygilmore2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your explanations and enthusiasm keeps me glued to your videos.

  • @willm5032
    @willm5032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tape is a pretty standard storage medium still. My friend worked in an animation house (one contracted out to do scenes for hollywood films). They had an offsite backup- incase of fire, theft etc, all tape storage, in constant use.

    • @Darkk6969
      @Darkk6969 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sure they have a cool robotic tape library system. $$$ but worth it!

  • @JohnWick-id6pk
    @JohnWick-id6pk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Why in the hell did you not just buy a 1U rack shelf instead of that stupid unit you got ?! These things are 10 times less expensive and will let air pass better to keep that choking Mac mini cooler

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Ya but they're not cute.

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Future expansion, and minimizing footprint.

    • @EdthePlumber
      @EdthePlumber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a about the button pusher!
      No I serious, how annoying would it be to have to do a hard reset if it was on a rack self

    • @EdthePlumber
      @EdthePlumber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And cooling, Apple will tell you it’s not needed! Thermal throttling is a feature not a flaw

    • @Studio23Media
      @Studio23Media 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Edward Lucas Just turn it backwards. There's nothing on the front of a Mac Mini anyway

  • @TheNubimusic
    @TheNubimusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, is there any potential issues from having that tape drive directly above the mac mini which as you mentioned gets infernally hot?

  • @ShinyTechThings
    @ShinyTechThings 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what's a cheap used LTO rack mounted solution that you would recommend?

  • @Alpha8713
    @Alpha8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good call on LTO as a storage medium. Can that Mac Mini feed the tape fast enough to avoid "shoe shining" the tape (and causing excessive tape and head wear)? Also, I'm not sure I understand your argument for Thunderbolt vs SAS connection (SAS is more standard), but whatever works. Nice job. Also, 1U is 1 3/4".

  • @BadKarma714
    @BadKarma714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watch out your turning into Linus next you will have a large noisy server like his lol good video

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quinn I'm glad your so transparent with what you pay for things. Keep things in perspective

  • @frostbiten9611
    @frostbiten9611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really interesting! Getting into servers and storage has really open up a new tech world for me.

  • @PixelVogue
    @PixelVogue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    13:29 LMFAO!

  • @mohdfaizal6773
    @mohdfaizal6773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Uh, some how, this video had some
    Blair witch project, feel to it

  • @AnoshMalik99
    @AnoshMalik99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great content! No gimmicks, great humour, calm. Best of all, very very informative 😌👌

  • @NicK-vc1he
    @NicK-vc1he 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay. Just ordered a unit and 3 tapes... now all I need is a roll of scotch tape and a pair of scissors.

  • @JG-fg1ye
    @JG-fg1ye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I never realised how hard content creators work, seems really stressful :(

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It’s fun most of the time.

    • @bmxscape
      @bmxscape 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah it really must be stressful being able to record anything you want and knowing all you have to do is post it to the internet to rake in 6 figure(if not 7) net profits per year, while not leaving your own house. i couldn't imagine a more stressful job.
      /sarcasm

    • @dl5fse990
      @dl5fse990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      While I’m not saying it’s easy, he’s making copious amounts of money from doing all of this (as evident by the thousands in equipment shown in just this 1 video)

    • @dusscode
      @dusscode 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Josh C you do realize that all of this was collected over many years, right?

  • @KayBertoss
    @KayBertoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you bored yet? No, I love this stuff!

  • @carlyleroad
    @carlyleroad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I worked for Bull Information Systems twenty years ago we called hard disks online storage, backup tape was off-line storage and tape-based indexed backups were called NEARLINE. So that's what you have there - perfect nearline storage! Fabulous video btw - it gives a real insight into your operation. Thanks.

  • @nitishbisht8950
    @nitishbisht8950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the way how you explained the issues with hard drives/tapes then, come to the product and its benefits. I say it's super cool.

  • @FriedrichWinkler
    @FriedrichWinkler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why not use backblaze b2 and mail in your data?

    • @dlarge6502
      @dlarge6502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they mail it back when you need it? When you need the lot of it that is. (31 TB)

    • @linouxis9135
      @linouxis9135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dlarge6502 Yep, they do, and they even do it for free if you ship back the HDD

  • @gjermundification
    @gjermundification 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10:20 no need for the MacMini, you can run BHYVE w/MacOS on your FreeNAS.

  • @nicolas.leger3
    @nicolas.leger3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why didn't I learn from tape BEFORE...thanks for sharing !!!

  • @jlkiller008
    @jlkiller008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well one question. You said that the Mac Mini acts like the brain of the tape in terms of where every file is. And with YoYotta you can see all of this, create and run jobs etc. but what if the whole server rack bruns down. So everything including the mac mini. Can you then just copy all the files of the tape or do you need the "brain" to kinda recreate the structure before even being able to offload everything? And if so is there also the possibility to back up the "Brain-Files" of YoYotta?

  • @jx8148
    @jx8148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This guy is like me convincing my mom to let me buy a 2000 dollars PC

  • @AgentLokVokun
    @AgentLokVokun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10:32 -- What the actual hell is going on? Just have a handy lighter next to your bong off set is kinda nice tho.

  • @adam872
    @adam872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see people still using tapes. They definitely have their place.

  • @joshuayonathan5373
    @joshuayonathan5373 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What mic setup are you using to get such clean audio in a loud server room?!?

  • @xXRealXx
    @xXRealXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Oh no, raid shady legends

  • @SanderCokart
    @SanderCokart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    13:30 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SteveBoyer10
      @SteveBoyer10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seriously laughed out loud hahaha

  • @langolier9
    @langolier9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep I’m glad I found you by accident this is my third video I’ve seen and you’re now on my shortlist for technology gurus to learn from

  • @ContentMonsters
    @ContentMonsters 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE LIGHTER! 😩🔥

  • @roybuscht.9997
    @roybuscht.9997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    13:30 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @Teksers
    @Teksers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ha ha ha(laugh in Romanian) 10 euro for 1Gbps internet speeds and this is for consumers. Businesses pay more as they have contracts that specify that their bandwidth is guaranteed.

    • @aoelp
      @aoelp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think some households in Sweden get 10 GBit/s for ~50€/month and mind you Sweden has much higher wages too. Meanwhile, here in Germany I would need to pay 55€/month (up from 45€/month) for 175 MBit/s max down over my current ~96 with an unchanged upload speed of between 30 and 40 MBit/s. Just great. All that over a centuries old former telephone line, because our conservative party in the 80's ignored the expert's suggestions to broadly roll out fiber and CATV as a minimum for rural areas. Some people get less than 2 MBit/s till this day, even over cellular data. Sad. At least, most plans are uncapped when it comes to fixed broadband. Our cellular is either capped, very expensive (like >100€/month) or non-existent, because of lack of competition and corresponding laws…
      Mind you, 1 GBit/s is the max you normally can get in Germany apart from some very select few thousand households in either Metropolitan or Hinterland areas, while in outer countries this is already considered "the minimum" for most - at least those who want and can afford it. Most of that over some >110€/month fiber or CATV which is not nearly as stable or low-latency. Always feels so bad watching someone download over Gigabit/s lines with like 120 MB/s from Steam, when you are lucky to get 11 on most days. Hearing my parents say 12 MBit/s down with 2,3 MBit/s up is "fast" just a few years back was even worse…

  • @KeeganDoomFire11
    @KeeganDoomFire11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found your videos and quite enjoy your honest reviews of things and the shallow dive you do into details.

  • @jondonnelly4831
    @jondonnelly4831 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a second tape machine off site for DR?
    Does LTO compression work with raw and have you tested it ?
    Do you backup to 2 LTO tapes, in case one breaks?

  • @JazzToTheTwo
    @JazzToTheTwo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Didnt linus make a video and say it can take an entire day to write to a tape? Was he totally wrong or is this totally different?

    • @RocktCityTim
      @RocktCityTim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the source volume and the archival software. As long as your source volume can provide a sustained 3800MB/sec stream, you'll write to an lto-7 or LTO-8 tape at just over 1TB/hour. So, yes, filling a 12TB LTO-8 tape "will" take 12 hours. But, you'd be in worse shape doing the same write to a 12TB Exos drive at 120MB/sec (less than 500GB/hour).

  • @mhtweeter
    @mhtweeter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? Raid shadow legends is everywhere. WTH

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      M Ha they pay great as a sponsor :).

    • @PolakeXD
      @PolakeXD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should purchase a +300.000 subs channel with viewer bots and maybe I will get a sponsorship from them 😂
      I heard they pay like 4000-7000$ for a single advertisement

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MichalPlays I heard TH-cam is onto bots so it won’t work. But yeah it’s about that for a spot.

    • @mhtweeter
      @mhtweeter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PolakeXD goddamn

  • @tibialabs8919
    @tibialabs8919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey so I see your mac pro, but where is the hackintosh you built with amd cpu?

  • @kael13
    @kael13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been a subscriber for a few years now. Videos getting better and more interesting all the time!

  • @wreckervilla
    @wreckervilla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    download RAID shadow legends now and get a hot goth gf
    for real tho, I've been waiting for an in depth video about magnetic tape viability for archival storage for a while

    • @umersalman1
      @umersalman1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Linus has a couple of videos on jt too

  • @fastjp72
    @fastjp72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just buy a 1u shelf instead for the mac mini, duh!

  • @Behrdie
    @Behrdie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is dope, love the details and footage. And the podcast is fresh! Looking forward to more!

  • @samuellewis8893
    @samuellewis8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always thought that Sonnet stuff was decent quality, never had an issue with the button sticking on ones I've used, maybe worth a bit of wd-40 or something on the arm?

  • @isaiahbriggs2093
    @isaiahbriggs2093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    video starts at 5:41

    • @_purejosh
      @_purejosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Video starts at 0:00

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As they all do, @@_purejosh! Ya beat me to it! :-)

  • @Sithhy
    @Sithhy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The internet prices in USA are just crazy. In my country (altough in a small part of it for now) you can get a symmetrical 10Gb/s connection for like $33 a month

    • @David-nh7px
      @David-nh7px 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      While true, his is even more expensive because it's commercial internet. He gets a static IP among other "features."

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      paying $55usd for 100mbps down 15 up $300gb cap. Usually speed test apps say between 100 and 110mbps also steam usualy reports 13 to 15 Mbps

  • @dgr999
    @dgr999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which 48 port 10G ethernet switch are you using in this setup?

  • @yakovhadash
    @yakovhadash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    in 10,000 years, society’s only record of the past will be The Complete Works of SnazzyLabs

  • @doug
    @doug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    google drive storage is unlimited when you have at least 5 business users (about $30 a month) 🥳 - only limited to 750gb upload per day, per user.

    • @IraQNid
      @IraQNid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but his upload speed is really crap as he already noted. Then you have to truly believe the Google won't use your personal data without telling you. They're not living up to the whole trust factor given their shady practices.

    • @blox2542
      @blox2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isnt is 750mb? Im not sure

    • @frogg4711
      @frogg4711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IraQNid you can encrypt the data before uploading

    • @DarkH4X0
      @DarkH4X0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shared drives are always unlimited from GSuite for about 12 bucks per month

    • @darkfrost315
      @darkfrost315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can be bypassed with Service account

  • @sanlega
    @sanlega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude, in spain we have 1gb fiber for around $80/month

    • @DiscoDevil197
      @DiscoDevil197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Congrats, want a cookie?

    • @azzamashoor6509
      @azzamashoor6509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it a business plan ? Because his is a business plan so pricing is diffrenet from consumer plans .

    • @sanlega
      @sanlega 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azzamashoor6509 even bussines in spain is cheap

  • @gaborgregus2970
    @gaborgregus2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am just going down on the same road with disk shelves, rack servers, lto tapes. Good to see others going to the same direction!

  • @PCWizrdSolutions
    @PCWizrdSolutions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you backing up the tape library management solution? What are you doing as a labeling solution for the tapes? Really nice to see TAPE being using still! Awesome setup, though that Mac Mini box button scares me.

  • @pom4408
    @pom4408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hi. We need to speak about focus.

    • @PatrickDunca
      @PatrickDunca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, and depth of field choices.
      One day we will look back at these times and wonder....

    • @PatrickDunca
      @PatrickDunca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And music levels. Okay okay, I'll shut up now. Sorry. Sorry. I do like watching your videos. I appreciate that you tend to put a massive amount of effort into them, and lots of cool hardware too.

  • @jaerdahl
    @jaerdahl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    as long as the business doesn't catch on fire, you should be good to go!

    • @matthewcheng4158
      @matthewcheng4158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want to him open a box with a lighter
      New video "How to unbox an Iphone with fire" burning off the box

  • @MrBobbybrady
    @MrBobbybrady 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you running freenas with a netapp shelf?