1. GET ENTOMOLOGICAL TWEEZERS 2. Always work inside a larger container with a (temporary) barrier to prevent ants running off (dabbed-on baby powder is perfect for this purpose). 3. Stupid Mierenspecialist jars won't allow you to shake them out directly into a test tube, so just let the ants run out. It's only a few and they are low priority. 4. Move remaining brood into fresh tube (you can just pick it up directly, even eggs, with entomological tweezers, else use a damp brush). 5. Grab the queen or trap her with the tube either inside the jar or in a corner of the container, add workers too but only if you can do it in under a few seconds. 6. Stopper the tube and darken it. Key is to make them calm down quickly so they don't smear formic acid everywhere. 7. After 5 minutes, once they calmed down, gently connect the test tube to the nest (waiting time is so the tube becomes 'nest'). 8. Gather the remaining workers (and brood they'll have dropped after running off with it) and put it into the outworld. 9. Wait with feeding until they calmed down. While they sometimes can instantly calm down running into food, they can also make a mess. Additional trick is to put the colony into the fridge for a bit to make them lethargic and easy to move directly without a fuss. Keep an eye on condensation forming though. There are some easier alternatives, but your used setup isn't suitable for them as the outworld is either too small and can't be secured with a barrier. Also there is no tubing connector (so just jamming tubing into the jar with cotton and connecting that is no option either). That setup is difficult to feed large, fast excitable ants in. At around a dozen Camponotus ligniperda workers you'll have to either connect a more useful outworld (if that second connector takes tubing), or move them again to a more suitable setup (hopefully in a more controlled manner this time). And those cocoons aren't 'very very close to hatching' yet. They get a lot darker and shrivelled in their final days before eclosure.
Thank you so much for writing such a detailed comment with very helpful tips! Right now I have them for 4 weeks and the mini outworld for me works very well. I had no problem with it so far and if they outgrow it I'll just plug out the test tube and connect them to something else. I thought they would get more workers soon, apparently I was wrong😰
Oh my that transfer method for those ants was nuts haha! Fair play for trying that! Think it can be very stressful for them tho so best to let them do it themselves next time! I always connected up another tube and made it more appealing to them and over a few days they moved themselves! ATM I have 8 workers and pupae close to hatching. They've just come out of hibernation and hopefully will grow in numbers a bit this year! Around 50 would be great! I mived mine into a nest with 6 workers and tbh they're doing great! But I would say they probs do better in a test tube for a little longer! Keep going man! Love ant videos
What a nice video! About moving the Camponotus ligniperda, in my opinion it's not really about colony size, but colony age. The first two years are the slowest. Most Camponotus ligniperda colonys get a big "baby boom" in their third year, so I would keep them in testtubes and move them in to a nest when the colony is three years old. You can of course move them in to a nest earlyer, but they are not as active in their first and second year.
Normally you move ligniperdas somewehere between 30 - 40 workers :) ane please do never move your ants like this... it's enormous stress for them. Just lay the cointainer in an plastic-box outworld and wait till they moved by their own. Then you can attach the test tube to your test tube arena. ;)
Yeah I had misjudged the situation. I thought it would go a lot smoother. If it was cotton I could pull out the cotton with the queen and workers on it. I have done that so many times.
Good job, you stressed them all out within minutes of unboxing them. Camponotus ligniperda deal very badly with stress. The queen might stop laying for a long while when stressed. But anyway, they should recover after a while. Feed them much sugars (they love them) and proteins ofcourse. Keep them on partially on a heating mat or cable; they will thermoregulate and place their brood on the heat every now and then. Good luck! Edit: Camponotus ligniperda grow much faster with heat and the best thing to do is just leave them alone, apart from feeding them ofcourse
I unboxed them 3 days after I received them. She laid tons of fresh brood I think she's alright. I'm also planning to heat them up soon! I think all queen deal badly with stress haha but yeah this was far from ideal. I'm just a beginner ant keeper making beginner mistakes😅
Hi . So I have 3 ligniperda colonies from last year nuptial flights and i can tell that they should be moved depending on the size of test tube . As long as they are not super squizeed they should be ok . Ifthere is too much w tho they can startto eat their own brood .
I have the 3D nest from mierenspecialist (where you got your ants) right from the start. They are doing fine! Since you make your own nests just go for it. They are big ants so don’t go too small. The one I have does have some grout for keeping it moist, not sure if your nests have that. Tim from mierenspecialist sends his ants in those viles, not sure why. Next time, attach a tube to that outworld you had there (that aliexpress one) and put the vile in there and let them move into a testube. It will be less stressful for them.
Yeah I know his nest they are quite decent. They would be fine in my nests but I really want a wooden nest in the future and that seems possible with camponotus ligniperda. The move was just a big beginner mistake. Some more expierienced people say just dump them in there so I did....
Oh boy that was a hardcore antmoving.Please repeat it with a realy big colony of small quick agrassive ants (kidding).Nice (and funny)video.Good summary from Tobias Rietveld
@@Ophnoxis Adding another test tube doesn't solve the problem. And the connector unit doesn't have a tubing connector (unless the second test tube connector also doubles for tubing, but that does result in an awkward setup).
At first I want to say that I am a critic, and don't worry about what I say. I think, that you accent your voice too much. I mean you rise your voice too much, and that's in my opinion little bad. And i'm missing subtitles a little😉
Ah thanks for the feedback! You mean I try the English accent to hard? Or my Dutch accent is too much? There are subtitles btw so that I I don't understand.
@@EstheticAnts Uhmm... it's hard to describe. I think you try the english accent too hard, but it's not like that. I think i can say that your voice tone is too high and unstable, and you are too "excided" in some parts. And I can see now that the subtitles are still there, but in yt options. Cool!
@@Xeonomy ah hmm most people do like my voice but I welcome all feedback. I don't think I try hard enough. Also most people think I'm actually english so I'm doing something right😉
@@EstheticAnts I mean i didn't say that your english is bad, but hmm how i can describe it... your tone of voice is very variable in short peroid of time, and that for me is little bad.
1. GET ENTOMOLOGICAL TWEEZERS
2. Always work inside a larger container with a (temporary) barrier to prevent ants running off (dabbed-on baby powder is perfect for this purpose).
3. Stupid Mierenspecialist jars won't allow you to shake them out directly into a test tube, so just let the ants run out. It's only a few and they are low priority.
4. Move remaining brood into fresh tube (you can just pick it up directly, even eggs, with entomological tweezers, else use a damp brush).
5. Grab the queen or trap her with the tube either inside the jar or in a corner of the container, add workers too but only if you can do it in under a few seconds.
6. Stopper the tube and darken it. Key is to make them calm down quickly so they don't smear formic acid everywhere.
7. After 5 minutes, once they calmed down, gently connect the test tube to the nest (waiting time is so the tube becomes 'nest').
8. Gather the remaining workers (and brood they'll have dropped after running off with it) and put it into the outworld.
9. Wait with feeding until they calmed down. While they sometimes can instantly calm down running into food, they can also make a mess.
Additional trick is to put the colony into the fridge for a bit to make them lethargic and easy to move directly without a fuss.
Keep an eye on condensation forming though.
There are some easier alternatives, but your used setup isn't suitable for them as the outworld is either too small and can't be secured with a barrier. Also there is no tubing connector (so just jamming tubing into the jar with cotton and connecting that is no option either).
That setup is difficult to feed large, fast excitable ants in. At around a dozen Camponotus ligniperda workers you'll have to either connect a more useful outworld (if that second connector takes tubing), or move them again to a more suitable setup (hopefully in a more controlled manner this time).
And those cocoons aren't 'very very close to hatching' yet. They get a lot darker and shrivelled in their final days before eclosure.
Thank you so much for writing such a detailed comment with very helpful tips! Right now I have them for 4 weeks and the mini outworld for me works very well. I had no problem with it so far and if they outgrow it I'll just plug out the test tube and connect them to something else. I thought they would get more workers soon, apparently I was wrong😰
Great tips!
Oh my that transfer method for those ants was nuts haha! Fair play for trying that! Think it can be very stressful for them tho so best to let them do it themselves next time! I always connected up another tube and made it more appealing to them and over a few days they moved themselves! ATM I have 8 workers and pupae close to hatching. They've just come out of hibernation and hopefully will grow in numbers a bit this year! Around 50 would be great! I mived mine into a nest with 6 workers and tbh they're doing great! But I would say they probs do better in a test tube for a little longer! Keep going man! Love ant videos
Yeah that was a true beginners mistake... won't try that again haha
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What a nice video!
About moving the Camponotus ligniperda, in my opinion it's not really about colony size, but colony age. The first two years are the slowest. Most Camponotus ligniperda colonys get a big "baby boom" in their third year, so I would keep them in testtubes and move them in to a nest when the colony is three years old. You can of course move them in to a nest earlyer, but they are not as active in their first and second year.
Alright then I'll wait a bit! Thanks for your comment.
@@EstheticAnts Yes, and keep in mind that your colony is in year 2 now. :) 2020 was their first year
Looking forward to this!!
Yay
no need to move them until next year :)
in my experience they do much better in a tube than in a nest
That's good news.
So so so goood video, very happynes with this colony
yaaay :)
Nice! My Lignis are also from Mierenspecialist
Yeah it's great because they arrived fast.
Mine too 😁
Let,s gooooooooo
Yeeet
You are soooo close to 1k subs !!
Now 1k subs
Congrats
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As always, a very good and informative video
Thanks man :)
I'm so excited!
Me too!
Great video!
Thanks man!
Nice video, i hope colony will be healthy
Can confirm that the queen laid a ton of eggs
Normally you move ligniperdas somewehere between 30 - 40 workers :) ane please do never move your ants like this... it's enormous stress for them. Just lay the cointainer in an plastic-box outworld and wait till they moved by their own. Then you can attach the test tube to your test tube arena. ;)
Yeah I had misjudged the situation. I thought it would go a lot smoother. If it was cotton I could pull out the cotton with the queen and workers on it. I have done that so many times.
Good job, you stressed them all out within minutes of unboxing them. Camponotus ligniperda deal very badly with stress. The queen might stop laying for a long while when stressed. But anyway, they should recover after a while. Feed them much sugars (they love them) and proteins ofcourse. Keep them on partially on a heating mat or cable; they will thermoregulate and place their brood on the heat every now and then. Good luck!
Edit: Camponotus ligniperda grow much faster with heat and the best thing to do is just leave them alone, apart from feeding them ofcourse
I unboxed them 3 days after I received them. She laid tons of fresh brood I think she's alright. I'm also planning to heat them up soon! I think all queen deal badly with stress haha but yeah this was far from ideal. I'm just a beginner ant keeper making beginner mistakes😅
@@EstheticAnts No blaming for beginner mistakes, just be careful when it comes to dealing with Camponotus colonies 😉
hehe don't expect more than around 10-15 workers this year :D
Yeah I know😅
Great! I have this species with 13 workers!
Wow awesome!
Wait until 50-100 workers for a formicarium, if it is like rly small, 20.. this could take a year if in good conditions
Alright man thanks!
@@EstheticAnts Sure! Glad to help!
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nice vid, 950 subs!
Thanksss it's awesome :)
I have just got a colony of this sp so looking forward to watching yours grow with mine :)
Oehh exciting!
I would move this colony at 15-20 workers to a small nest.
Alright!
Hi . So I have 3 ligniperda colonies from last year nuptial flights and i can tell that they should be moved depending on the size of test tube . As long as they are not super squizeed they should be ok . Ifthere is too much w tho they can startto eat their own brood .
Alright that's nice
I have the 3D nest from mierenspecialist (where you got your ants) right from the start. They are doing fine! Since you make your own nests just go for it. They are big ants so don’t go too small. The one I have does have some grout for keeping it moist, not sure if your nests have that. Tim from mierenspecialist sends his ants in those viles, not sure why. Next time, attach a tube to that outworld you had there (that aliexpress one) and put the vile in there and let them move into a testube. It will be less stressful for them.
Yeah I know his nest they are quite decent. They would be fine in my nests but I really want a wooden nest in the future and that seems possible with camponotus ligniperda. The move was just a big beginner mistake. Some more expierienced people say just dump them in there so I did....
Nice video
Thanks man!
Oh boy that was a hardcore antmoving.Please repeat it with a realy big colony of small quick agrassive ants (kidding).Nice (and funny)video.Good summary from Tobias Rietveld
Thanks man! Next time I will be better prepared.
I recommend you move that ants at 30+ workers
Alright great advice!
There is no way you can keep a 30+ worker Campo colony contained in a setup with that outworld.
@@tobiasrietveld3819 he can add another testube or have a tube connected to another outworld
@@Ophnoxis Adding another test tube doesn't solve the problem. And the connector unit doesn't have a tubing connector (unless the second test tube connector also doubles for tubing, but that does result in an awkward setup).
Where’d you get them?
Mierenspecialist
I found 4 in 7 minutes in the forest i walked in
Wow lucky!
I'm scared
It's all good
I'm inpatient and move mine to nest after 2nd round of workers. Sometimes first.
that's not good buddy
@@EstheticAnts is working so far.
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I can't wait for the giveaway .
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To liso a fera tamos 873?não é a segunda da fila para o dinheiro agora 45fiquei de onde e da porra?
30-50
Will do! thanks :)
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When your such an ant fan you comment before the video 😎
True fan!
At first I want to say that I am a critic, and don't worry about what I say. I think, that you accent your voice too much. I mean you rise your voice too much, and that's in my opinion little bad. And i'm missing subtitles a little😉
Ah thanks for the feedback! You mean I try the English accent to hard? Or my Dutch accent is too much? There are subtitles btw so that I I don't understand.
@@EstheticAnts Uhmm... it's hard to describe. I think you try the english accent too hard, but it's not like that. I think i can say that your voice tone is too high and unstable, and you are too "excided" in some parts. And I can see now that the subtitles are still there, but in yt options. Cool!
@@Xeonomy ah hmm most people do like my voice but I welcome all feedback. I don't think I try hard enough. Also most people think I'm actually english so I'm doing something right😉
@@EstheticAnts I mean i didn't say that your english is bad, but hmm how i can describe it... your tone of voice is very variable in short peroid of time, and that for me is little bad.
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First... jk XD
Sure sure...... hmm
Your not suppose to order them
why?
@@EstheticAnts it’s dangerous, they usually will die during it if you wanna get them safely get them from ants Canada.