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An afternoon with high-end tonearm designer Frank Schröder
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
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Schröder visits Darko HQ to fit a Zu/Denon DL-103r cartridge to a Rega Planar 2 turntable but stays to talk about a wide variety of issues relating to turntables and vinyl.
More info: www.schroeder-t...
Rega Planar 2: www.rega.co.uk/...
Zu Denon DL103r MKII: www.zuaudio.co...
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What a gem of an interview! Trust a German for no BS straight down the line analysis. Refreshing to hear myths busted in such simple yet beautifully philosophical terms. Great stuff!
Excellent interview...Pardon the pun but this is the most neutral interview I have heard in a long time.No bloviated highly opinionated shite like what Fremer doles out.Partly because he isn't American he isn't consumed by good better best itis.The biggest fallacy in high end is opinions on turntables.An utter crapshoot.No showroom in 50 years of being in this hobby had ever made a serious attempt at A/B comparisons.So in reality nobody has a clue about what's really better than anything else besides price point.Great interview.I would buy his tonearm based on his intellect.As good a reason as any I say.
The most down-to-earth and honest interview from someone that knows what he's doing. Kudos.
What an incredibly intelligent interviewee, would like to see more of Schröder.
I find this to be absolute gospel. Without bragging, I have been around music performance and reproduction as an avocation for over 60 years, and I have an electrical engineering diploma with the mathematics that entails. He knows far more than I, but it all falls nicely into place as truth.
The best part is his choice of words to describe his opinions. He knows and he conveys. Bravo.
He expresses himself better in his second language then most do in their first.
Lol than most do. Try again
John, you should do a follow up video with Frank at his office/shop. Would be fascinating to see Frank in his element.
He is so practical and logical in his approach in describing what he looks for in the complete system sound.
Fantastic, thank you! More in-depth videos with Mr Schröder, please
Frank is just great! I learned more in 22 minutes about hifi than I have in the last 22 years. More of Frank please! Thanks!
Amazing video! I love Frank’s insight and detailed answers. Thank you very much, John and Frank!
I had no idea that you did this interview which was a terrific surprise. I'm reasonably sure there are plenty of your viewers that don't know who Frank Schroder is but this man is a legend & probably the most gifted tonearm designer in audio. There are many nice arms to consider but Frank is truly in a league of his own. Thanks for terrific interview.
I was thinking the very same as you. The big take away of this most valuable interview should be the acknowledgement of Frank's rare gift of wisdom which is a very rare comodity these days.
Yes. This guy. Yes. He just exactly told us all how he listens for quality. “Do I like it” and “Does this trigger memories”. The biggest problem I have with music is that it is always different than how it was live. As a drummer I actually notice this everytime with hi-hats. Go to a store that sells cymbals and ask them if they can let you listen to a hi-hat. It will not sound anything like you hear on recordings due to compression, gates, echo, reverb. You name it. It mostly will be a high tick metallic sound on a recording no matter what medium. And there is where he has a very good point. It will never be the same as live.
So to tackle this hi-hat thing I actually bought hats that sound like a recorded one (with compression and low-cut filter applied). 😂
Fantastic interview! I especially love the part when he said the best cartridges in the world are the moving magnet Audio Technica AT-95 and the moving coil Denon 103. The AT-95 cost is $50 and the Denon 103 costs $350. Two of the cheapest cartridges available for their types. Certainly he isn't saying that these are the two best sounding cartridges in the world regardless of price, but factoring in the price and performance, these are the greatest, in his opinion.
Does he own a Rega Planar 3 system ???
and then he said... "if you have a more expensive cartridge, that admittedly sounds better..."
His critical thinking skills are on full display here... the way he questions, explores all possibilities, concentrates on what's important, and refrains from bias or hyperbole can teach us a lot about decision making and uncovering truth...let alone putting together an audio system haha. Fantastic interview! I definitely hope to see (and hear music from) his Alto tonearm in the future.
Thank you.
Enjoy your music, your way.
Find what best works for you and how you like to hear your music.
Brilliant. He nails the specificity of vinyl: turntable-tonearm-cartridge combo (+phono amp). you know when you get there: it's magic ;-) But requires, time, patience (and some money as well).
Relatively new to your channel and really like what I've watched so far. This particular gentleman and this video was outstanding. Really spot on.
I've watched this 3 times. I'll watch it again when I get the feeling I need to buy something.
Glad to hear that dozing off when listening isn't something unique to me !!! That's when I know that my system is on song, it sends me into a trance. Excellent and interesting interview.
One of the best HiFi audio presentations/interviews/presentations I have ever heard. Period. I listen purely to CD's & SACD's & recently TIDAL.
A lot of wisdom in that interview.
Agreed.
A real honest down to earth interview. I am shocked by the direct hi-end myth busting. This man deserves a Medal of Honor. Very very very rare in the hi-end world. Regards from Finland.👍👍👍
A refreshingly honest commentary on what high end audio is about and most importantly the inevitable challenges we face with reproduction.
A great interplay of understated objectivity, subjectivity and humour!
Thanks for a great educational interview with a Master!
Love this interview. You should convince Frank for a part 2 sometime...
This was great. I would really enjoy taking this guy out for a coffee just to listen to him and ask a few questions.
it is very uplifting to hear such an obviously highly intelligent and well-educated man talk.
This is one of the best interview on the topic on youtube
At first I thought why would I watch a 23 min video on turntables. What a great interview. Entertaining and informative. Oooh love my old thorens TD 160.
Dear Alan from Toronto, Canada!!! Great to see you!! Lovely interview here arranged by John :-D...
May you have fun with your BEAUTIFUL and solid Heybrook TT2 and your Thorens TD160!!!
I enjoy the talk with frank.
He came across knowledgeable and honest.
Great way of interviewing.
So many tv people put themselves (or are put) in the shot as if they are as interesting as the person being interviewed. Well to all the tv people who think you are...you are not!
This way gives us the chance to focus on the person giving the answers.
A refreshing change. This style should be the norm.
I come back to watch this every couple of months
"[...] your mood will be severely affected in a negative way [...]" love it
very good ideas well presented a man with a brain who can express his ideas and concepts regarding audio hifi, straight talking no bull shit need more people like frank
The bottom line is that we all have varying takes on what sounds good to our ears. We all buy according to our means and provided that you have half a clue to begin with, your purchase will continue to sound great until you experience something better. At the end of the day, the biggest difference with all audio formats is the quality of the source material, digital or otherwise.
I realy apreciate your aproach to this very complex, also very personal subject. I am 70 years old and I am a music enthusiast living in US for the past 39 years. I was born in Romania and began lestening to music in the 60 s: Beatles, Rolling Stones, John McLaughlin, Weather Report, Jimi Hendrix, Yes, Genesis, King Kromson, Kansas, Bill Bruford, Pink Floid and of course Led Zeppelin. The reason I mentioned all these groups is because I like the way they sound. Personaly I like LPs sound better,compare to CDs. I feel that LPs have a 3 dimensional sound perception compare to a flat digital sound on CDs. I will make some statements so you will understand my dilema chosing the right stereo system for a 11' X 11' size room: Turn table, preamp (or not), amplifier, bookshelf speakers, cables and room accoustic. There are so many unknown variables ( combinig different components )according to one's personal perseption of a "good" sytem listening to music. I totaly agree with you that this process is a trial and error listening to different combination of the stereo components. Than you again for a very insightful conversation.
He just nails the subject. Smart guy. I’d buy one of his tonearms.
Sweet. At 13:35 Frank lets you know that underneath his Captain Tonearm day job, he's more like you and me than any of us might think.
great interview with one of the most straight up gents in the business!!!
Great inteview and a very intelligent man. I only differ with him on vinyl re-issues. Most aren't better than the original. Some are, for example 45rpm in the best cases. And most first issue vinyl I bought in the 70s & early 80s has ridiculously poor quality control so to assume that the original is always best is a fallacy.
One of the best and most worthwhile videos I've watched in a while. Thanks!
But I do know why cutting a digitial file onto vinyl helps. It becomes a mechanical filter. The biggest problem in digital playback right now. Output filtering. Once transfered to a physical medium, the waveform has to follow analog rules. That can not currently be duplicated digitially or even with analog filters.
Dear Glenn, you have spoken and explained this so well :-D !!! Thank you my friend.
Warmest Regards.
I was a die-hard digital guy who bought exotic high-end DAC's for my digital system.
Today the DAC is stashed away, and vinyl is the name of the game, it simply sounds better to me.
Outstanding interview. Thank you.
Great interview, intelligent questions. Frank is a master.
Terrific insights. Just by this interview I can "accurately" conclude that he is a master at designing tone arms.
Outstanding video. Realistic and knowledgeable discussion. So much truth, no snake oil. Congratulations.
The wisdom of Solomon: "have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit" ecclesiastes 1:14. You are all pretensious prats, I love this guy.
Right on their money, what a great interview. This guy has the truth at hand.
Cant thank you enough for this interview. Frank understands that the most important thing in any setup is the music.
very interesting intvu- skeptical at first but ultimately very rewarding. Also good to hear that flea markets are a good source for used vinyl in Germany. Can’t wait for my next visit!
I agree with Frank. I'm a Berliner as well and Berlin has a lot to offer for vinyl junkies.
Very good video. I bought the exact same turntable three months ago, also in red and it's just fantastic. My respect for perfection. Sure there are better turntables out there, but in my opinion, for the money, this is the absolute best you can get. I'm happy every day when I listen to music in the evening.
WoW !!! Outstanding interview !!!
Great interview, highly enjoyable, it ended too soon.
Smart comment in the interview - buy a decent system for casual listening and go to live symphonic concerts in a good venue. It's not cheap but it's cheaper than chasing "high end" audio thinking you will get the same thing.
Exactly what J Gordon Holt of Stereophile fame was saying 50 years ago!
awesome interview!! thanks
What a wonderful interview, but it ended way to soon. Please, please line up a part 2 with Mr. Schroder. It was brilliant.
That was really interesting. Thank you 👌
15:35min...."decapitated by your cleaning lady"....like my Sumiko Blue Point Special was once....excellent interview with a credible man....
Gratitude 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
great video, much of what he says i already guessed from years of listening but i learned a lot from this gentleman (-:
AT95 and DL103. Exactly. I think UK Hi Fi Choice had AT95 as a low distortion reference. Sometimes we forget that an LP was made suitable for a domestic market and not High End Audio. The remarkable thing is hi fi can find more than was intended. For me that is being able to hear the room the musicians are in. Even early 78s can show this. Digital on LP seldom sounds better than CD to me except fewer digital timing errors. For example CD often is 48 to 44.1 kHz converted. No need for LP to do that. Using an inverse RIAA circuit ( Peter Walker version is easy. Rod Elliot site ) into phono can make CD sound a little like LP of digital. Benny Goodman knew these things, Pink Floyd also.
Very honest interview. Nice job done
Thank goodness seeing someone of his caliber and profession having a quick word about the sonic qualities of cables.
Insightful and honest, zero snobbery 👏👏👏
What a wonderful interview, so Down to Earth, yet to the point …. Thanks for posting it …. Cheers from NZ
Dang ! This guy is so 'accurate' in his descriptions!! GREAT VID!!!
Verry usefull info, also thanks to mr. Schroder
we need another interview with Frank!
This is great! Would love to see more this kind of stuff!
Awesome! Thank you.
Frank Schröder's amazing - captivating stuff. Thanks for this, John.
This man should know the answer to the question: Is it better to hear a bad performance on a good system or a good performance on a bad system.
Very cool guy and a great interview.
Yes!!! Thanks for sharing this, a sane articulate person talks about hifi, rare indeed and truly wonderful.
Fascinating guy, ever heard of him. Thanks for introducing. Great interview too.
No old lady with candy and wrapping paper making noises next to you 😂😂 - classic
Frank is so “frank”. One of the best hifi discussions beyond tonearms. You can tell he’s passionate about it. I’m thinking of re-imagining my listening equipment. Thanks Darko and Frank.
PS. I’m planning to upgrade my Magnepan’s to the 3.7i soon. I have a plethora of cone/cabinet speakers but have always had a set of Magnepan’s in the collection over the last 20 years. Nope I don’t work or promote for Magnepan.
Almost everything he said is what I have come to learn. My two cartridges are the at95e and the dennon 103, no others and no no no reissues unless I can not find an original, which 95% of the time I can. I can just about cancel my Sterophile mag.
Such a great interview!
Outstanding interview ! I’ll definitely watch this several times. Im in the market of upgrading my Rega RP6 w Exact II feeding a McIntosh C220 into tube amps. The thing Ive learned that is most important is pairing the cartridge with the phono preamp and hearing the TT in my home. A few companies allow you to do such demos was the gear on display your setup or his Darko? Or just props?
'It all depends on the implementation'.
So true in so many areas of life.
Always intriguing to listen to a knowledgeable person on a subject that you like and are interested in, every word counts and it comes down to this; you learn from it and are gratified to know that you agree on many things. The comment on how cheap vinyl is at flea markets, what about the second hand hi-fi components market?
Its rather refreshing how he won't play the what's the best game , personal choice and affordability are much closer to the truth . the ability to actually hear is a factor seldom discussed , The whole HIFI thing seems weighed down with oh so righteous boffins pontificating about all manner of gobbledegook , its a wonder they ever find time to actually listen to music , far better to appreciate what music can do to your mood and enjoy your tunes .
99% just talk, is my opinion. I think when they listen they will die at once.
Those interviews with knowledgeable people presenting their critical views without suggestive questions are unique and what makes your channel so valuable.
Great interview. But, I’m still wondering where I can buy that Kind of Blue original pressing for less than the cost of the reissue.
I love thiese talks you have with industry people. Its very interesting to see what people who design audio gear think of, well, audio gear. One critique, perhaps call it a request, is that I did not like the clip-stitch format. I much prefer the style you used in your most recent Schiit interview where we heard more or less the entire conversation. This series, at least from my point of view, is to give people who do not have access to the people that you do to hear their thoughts. hearing the whole conversation is a more interesting format for me. i suppose that would add to the length so there is a tradeoff there.
What a great video. I could listen to him for hours.
Published right on my lunch break! Thank you 🤣
Wow! I almost didn't listen to this one as I don't play vinyl... but so glad i did. What a refreshingly honest, down to earth and balanced discussion of [ and insight into ] what contributes to the sound of any form of music reproduction being appealing, or not, without the oft present bias. Thank you Mr. Schroder for your candour and you John for continuing to bring us interesting and articulate industry pros.
I like this guy no bs straight to the point, close but no cigar even for hi end hifi even if your pockets re a mile deep it’s a compromise
Great interview. Who is mentioned at 10:28 -- Stan Richert? I'm not familiar. And yes, my cleaning lady also killed my cartridge last year...
Frank mentioned Stan Ricker , great vinyl mastering engineer. www.analogplanet.com/content/rip-legendary-mastering-engineer-stan-ricker
Frank Schröder is to HiFi what Richard Feynman was to Physics..."The Frank Schröder lectures on HiFi".
Great video, really enjoyed - thanks for sharing.
GREAT interview, John! Excellent!
Brilliant!!! "complete unobtainium"
Can someone release this interview on vinyl pls. Sounds a little bright on TH-cam. Thank you very much
The truth always sounds warmer :)
...and totally feel him regarding a cartridge being decapitated by the cleaning lady. My brother bought me a DVD player years ago and put some of the small packing material
cardboard underneath my tonearm’s cartridge. Of course sheared the cantilever clear off my $$$$$ Van Den Hul cartridge worth about 15 of those DVD players - lol
Loved this Thankyou 👍
This was awesome. The one thing about reissues - a good copy of Kind of Blue is bank. I’m not buying issues for “improvement” as much as a better chance at quality. He alluded to that and he also does reissue work. I was most fascinated about his view on digital to analogue - great question. Thank you so much for this. Also, and I asked this before lol, do you use a mat on your acrylic platter? Cheers!