Cracking stuff thanks for that. Would've been useful when I was swim coaching and everyone had about 50 names for every type of threshold. I'm still cycling though so it's all good
Thanks for this Mark, great presentation. If you ever had the time to do a similar one looking at MLSS, CP and FTP - I would be interested to hear your views 👍🏽
I am an exercise physiologist, who performs such tests on a regular base. I don't see often the described patterns. For example - sometimes there is no ve\vo2 gain, the ve pattern is also different
Sometimes (especially in sugar burners) MLSS and CP are at quite different power outputs. So which one would you choose in such cases as "second threshold"?
Do you see a role for the RCP in defining the transition from one training zone to another? E.g. if MLSS or CP are not available? How does RCP relate to MLSS and CP?
Tough one. They are correlated, but only seem close for VERY slow ramps. I've seen papers use RCP with a "correction" to determine CP or MLSS, but that relies on knowing the parameter of interest in the first place. Approach with caution would be my advice, since the RCP can only emerge once a sufficient change in pH has occurred to stimulate breathing beyond that of lactate buffering. So it will always be above the threshold of interest.
I was understanding well (or I thought I was..) until approximately 13-14mins in.... Paraphrasing, "CP defines the lower boundary of severe zone, mlss defines upper boundary of heavy zone, but the values don't often match and indeed CP is usually higher than mlss"? So there is a zone in between heavy and severe then? How big.....?
Yes. Another way to think of that is that the critical power or MLSS is a band of power, rather than a single power. So CP could be 250 W as a point estimate, but actually CP occurs between 235-265 W.
17:55 : "I shouldn't neglect to mention Functional Threshold Power...so there you go, I mentioned it! " 😂 Brilliant. Great video, thanks.
Excellent work, Mark! I'll be sure to share your videos with my students! Keep up the great work!
Cheers Scott. Enjoyed your flight photos earlier too!
Nice presentation Mark. A valuable contribution to start to clear the mire of threshold terminologies!
Brilliant. An excellent way to clear this topic.
Very nice Mark. Clear and very well presented 👍🏼
I'm so glad that I found this video and your channel, Mark
Cracking stuff thanks for that. Would've been useful when I was swim coaching and everyone had about 50 names for every type of threshold. I'm still cycling though so it's all good
Thanks for this Mark, great presentation. If you ever had the time to do a similar one looking at MLSS, CP and FTP - I would be interested to hear your views 👍🏽
Great lecture! Looking forward to more of them!!
I am an exercise physiologist, who performs such tests on a regular base. I don't see often the described patterns. For example - sometimes there is no ve\vo2 gain, the ve pattern is also different
Great presentation! Really enjoying your channel mate ✌️
Thanks very much.
Very interesting.
Great work! 😊👍
Sometimes (especially in sugar burners) MLSS and CP are at quite different power outputs. So which one would you choose in such cases as "second threshold"?
So basically most of your training should be at an effort that you could comfortably go for more than 2 hours .Seems simple enough .
What do you think about Bart Kay’s ideologies of exercise physiology?
Do you see a role for the RCP in defining the transition from one training zone to another? E.g. if MLSS or CP are not available? How does RCP relate to MLSS and CP?
Tough one. They are correlated, but only seem close for VERY slow ramps. I've seen papers use RCP with a "correction" to determine CP or MLSS, but that relies on knowing the parameter of interest in the first place. Approach with caution would be my advice, since the RCP can only emerge once a sufficient change in pH has occurred to stimulate breathing beyond that of lactate buffering. So it will always be above the threshold of interest.
@@all-outphysiology2177 Thanks for taking the time to reply!
I was understanding well (or I thought I was..) until approximately 13-14mins in.... Paraphrasing, "CP defines the lower boundary of severe zone, mlss defines upper boundary of heavy zone, but the values don't often match and indeed CP is usually higher than mlss"? So there is a zone in between heavy and severe then? How big.....?
Yes. Another way to think of that is that the critical power or MLSS is a band of power, rather than a single power. So CP could be 250 W as a point estimate, but actually CP occurs between 235-265 W.