How to invent a new solar energy method that is cheaper than thermal and nuclear power plants
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2024
- Similar concave mirrors are capable of focusing solar radiation well in this way, and we can produce electricity if this place is the location of a small solar panel, or a Stirling engine, or we use this 3rd option where a mirror dish focuses solar radiation onto a receiver, inside which the radiation is converted into thermal energy that produces steam for a turbine. Solar electricity from this turbine can be cheaper than electricity from thermal and nuclear power plants and better than from solar panels because the turbine uses heat storages which provide opportunities to generate electricity at night, on non-sunny days, and in non-sunny winter just as well as in summer, and I will describe these heat storages in 5 minutes.
Now I remind you that a mirror dish should rotate from morning to evening according to the movement of the sun across the sky, but this video will show you a different method where a mirror dish is motionless and does not require such rotations from morning to evening. I did a lot of experimental testing of our new method with a variety of mirror types, which will be described in more detail in 6 minutes.
Let you come up with the idea of our new method yourself, and the following experiment with this concave mirror will help you invent this method yourself. This mirror will be motionless from morning to evening, the west-east line is here, and the mirror creates this spot of solar radiation on the white screen. Now it is morning, and these are points in time during one day. You can see that the spot goes along this horizontal line from morning to evening.
Therefore you understand that our receiver must move approximately in such a way that the spot from our concave mirror is inside the receiver all day long. The following experiment will help you ensure that everything will work well, and this motionless mirror creates this spot on the white screen, which moves in exactly the same way as our receiver should move during one day. We see that the spot is inside the white screen from morning to evening.
Of course, you will object that the sun is low on the horizon in the winter months, while the summer sun is high. That is why you come to understand that the mirror should be almost vertical around the winter solstice, but after that we have to change its vertical angle several times, until this position which is required around the summer solstice. After this, we change the position of the mirror several more times during the next 6 months. Now I am showing how I change the vertical angle of the mirrors on my solar station, but perhaps more southern geographical latitudes will require changes in this structure.
Thus, these 2 features distinguish our mirror dishes from those more expensive devices which must rotate from morning to evening. In addition, we must distinguish our mirror dishes from this class of devices where the receivers are located separately from the mirrors, and from this class where heavy mirrors are motionless all year round, and I plan to describe these 2 classes in my future videos.
Let's use the idea of our motionless mirrors to invent a new solar power plant which will collect solar energy from an area of 100 sq.km to produce as much electricity as a nuclear reactor. First of all, you understand that our power plant will consist of millions of concave mirrors which must form long rows.
We also understand that every concave mirror must have a similar receiver, and now I am showing a variety of receivers for heating liquids with solar radiation from mirror dishes. This is one of my receivers, and you can notice that the height of this receiver is several times greater than its width. Of course, we must have a mechanism to move dozens of receivers, and perhaps this blogger's solutions will help us. He solved a similar problem of simultaneously moving his mirrors using this mechanism, a description of which can be found on his TH-cam channel. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
SERGIY!!!!! So glad to see you're still alive! I still prefer your own narrated voice over the voice-over. Thanks for your ongoing efforts, and SLAVA UKRAINI!!!!!!!
the entire solar industry vs one dude in his backyard and some mirrored foil
Exelent . !
This looks HVAC related
@@SleightWryder - yes, Thermal energy production is the principal domestic energy consumption task in an European winter - hot water (for many) also consumes much more energy during the remainder of the year than; cooking and lighting loads (in an all electric household) combined...
I don't understand. What did he do?
Efficiency is very important. Such experiments always fail. When there is some cloud, the heated surface will cool down and efficiency will decrease. The idea of producing energy by collecting solar energy to a point is ridiculous. Deterioration in the materials used will render the entire system inoperable. wind dust storm all included in this. and there will be a lot of energy loss.
Glad you're still alive. God bless
Only Allah
God save him .we need more such person. AMIN
You say that because of health or because government?
@@noericardo1490 Ukrainian government
@@noericardo1490 Probably because of the terrorists invading Ukraine.
its so crazy to me that half our advanced technology is just boiling water. I love it 😁😁😁😁
Yep just about all power plants are designed to boil water into steam to drive a turbine (most efficient) so fuel source can be either from coal, oil or nuclear & even solar. Only power units that can collect direct power & not use steam are Solar Panels, Wind Turbine, Tidal & Hydro.
@@DespaceMan even then hydro is debatable, i mean not rlly, but like as far as its also a turbine thats just geared for liquid rather than gas water
El Saturno v es una versión costosa del hipotético vehículo a reacción de Newton,se impulsa por vapor de agua
I've got this mirror concept beat by miles. I built a tracking 600:1 concentrating mirror that makes continuous live steam or drives a retort that is used to make charcoal from wood or petroleum products from waste plastic -- all for around $50 US.
Happy to see that you are alive and well, thank you, and best regards!
Thank you for all your work. Obviously your getting real information past the internet filter.
Robert Murray - Smith recently published a video talking about wax motors being used to work with solar surfaces with moving parts.
Maybe that could be a base for an autonomous moving receiver.
when I saw that you uploaded a video I was so excited to watch it. Keep up the great work! ❤
Thank you for your very important research!
Sergiy, you give me hope for the future, with innovators like yourself, we have the potential to convert smoothly from fossil fuels to solar energy.
I feel a solar tracker using stepper motors would be feasible to implement.
Excellent presentation with very good graphics. Thank you! I subscribed.
Cool video.
I think this guys lisp is on another level.
Great information to learn from
i´m happy to see that you are still making your solar experiments. Slava Ukraini!
Hi buddy. Thanks for your efforts on test.
Excellent work sir!.
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So nice to hear from you. Best wishes.
The toughest part is getting useful energy out this for a private home owner. Your video makes complete sense, but unfortunately the conversion into something useful is the tough part.
I will be making me a system later this year Sergiy. Nice video fella too. vf
This is all fine and good for commercial power plants, but for an individual's power needs, solar cells just cannot be beat. They're quiet, SAFE (no hot oil!), relatively cheap, mostly maintenance free, and Just Work® for decades. The new ones are pretty tough, and can be placed even where they might be walked on. Amazing!
Amazing invention, lets keep in touch , very good -from Marcus Volpini, Ouro Fino -MG
He has many good ideas.
The best efficiency for any Solar power device is at the equator, there are places that get sun almost 365 days a year. So these countries at the equator then can collect the energy & export it to northern or southern countries via cable using DC transmission as it's better for distance.
You need less heat if you us an evacuated multichambered system that flash boils pure degassed water when sprayed in then passes through a turbine then into a cold chamber where the remaining steam is recondensed if the vacuum reservoir is large enough it operates continuously in a closed loop system for the water.
Very interesting concepts.
Innovation with nature is exactly what we need. Nature is already on auto pilot. We just need to modify our tools and tap into that endless source of energy
Hey; I'm wondering if reflective paint could be used on a cheap substrate. I've seen you have added a clip from NightHawkInLight. He has a playlist in which he synthesizes reflective paint, even though he uses it for another purpose.
- the emissive paint of NHL most probably won't effectively reflect high quality thermal radiation to a collector, as the highly mirrored surfaces do.
Is there a good reflective material that can be vacuum-formed? I think you could perhaps get a good parabola by sucking on a material thru a circular rim ( but of course, don't suck all the way, or you just get a flat circular hole though; not sure the details, haven't worked with vacuum-forming personally yet).
Or maybe it could be done with hot water instead of a a vacuum-forming machine, combining the heat and the weight of the water? I'm not sure how that would affect the final shape; and cooling quickly once you reach the target shape might be tricky perhaps.
Love the content!
I hope everything is doing well :)
What is the receiver in the thumbnail? Looks like a flexure spring
Sergiy, been watching you for years! Try refraction to focus instead of reflection!
Can he use frensel lens for that ?
@@DrU387 I think refraction is more expensive. A mirror can be very thin and cheap and attached to something sturdy and cheap, while large Fresnel lenses made from transparent plastic would have to be molded, an expensive process, which might be OK if it lasted a long time, but plastic degrades in sunlight, though UV absorbers can help, but only so much. Made from glass would resist sunlight but would be expensive and fragile, especially if thin. With mirrors you can use really cheap really thin things with short lives, or more expensive things with really long lives.
@@lizard5678 why glass frensel lenses are expensive ,silica and sodium carbonate and other oxides are not that much expense ,what is the concept of expensive from a manifacturing point of veiw what is the technical issues and why such a sustinable way to produce a lot of heat from the sun not generalized in the world especially in the poor areas ,is that a proplem in technology or economics , i don't know it is very mysterious thing to think , glass manifacturing are not that complex and we are talking here about something that you can make it once then we have a sustinable "free" energy for a while.
@@DrU387 Thinking of tempered glass pickle jars at the grocery store, which are pretty cheap, so maybe they would not be that expensive to make. Regular flat glass is floated above molten tin in a molten state, and to get the Fresnel features and indentations into it it would take a similar process to how the threads are made for the lid on the pickle jars. Then the whole thing would have to be tempered/heat treated/held at a certain temperature to relax thermal stresses. Istill feel this would be more expensive and less sturdy than sheet metal bent to a paraboloid shape and a mirror surface polished unto it.
I was also thinking a parabolic trough setup where the mirrors move and the tubes stay stationary near the ground could eliminate heat transfer fluid leaks. Most of the setups in this video require flexible moving high temperature fluid connections, it's much easier to have solid welded ones, but you have to move the mirrors and hold the heat collector steady. One solution is the solar tower setup, mirrors move and tower is steady, but because of the long distances involved, aiming calibrations are more difficult and expensive than with the relatively short distance parabolic trough setups. You could also have Fresnel lenses that are not circular but linear, many parallel prisms that focus the sunrays along a line unto a tube, instead of to a point, and then you would have to move the lenses while keeping the tubes with the heat transfer fluid in them steady. A good heat transfer fluid to consider is NaK, it's dangerous and requires astronaut suits to protect against leaks, but it's fluid at room temperature and can be used up to the boiling point of potassium. Also the tubes should be covered by an evacuated glass tube for no heat conduction, that has a mirror surface, except the mirror is cut away or etched away where the sunlight comes in, say 45 degrees out of 360 degrees, while 315 degrees around is mirrored. The evacuated glass tube might have to rotate to accommodate changes in the main mirror or Fresnel lens positions.
awesome dude! keep em coming
Good solution. keep going ...
I think solar thermal energy devices can be also used for Industrial processes which require high temperatures
use insulated underground water tank as a heat bank.
if you collect more heat than the tank loses to the environment, no matter the size of the tank, it will eventually reach maximum heat storage.
Awesome video
I hvent completely thought it out yet, but seems a completely automated tracker can be built using little more than a solar panel and gear reduction motor. With a reduction low enough to take all day to move the reflector or collector, the solar panels to power the motor when the sun is out to be tracked, a few other parts can keep it going sun or no sun. A similar system to change the angle depending on month. Thr tracker trying to keep the solar panel out of the sun. With another wired in reverse to track th way back north. A microcontroller can easily be programmed to return to the east at night. Ready to start the day long journey in the morning. Possibly use a speed control or dc to dc to lower the voltage as the days get longer, based on the tilt of the system. Set by thevmnth ir week of the year maybe as accurate as the day of year. A simple analog system can be built, using the solar panels to power relays. With limit switches and a two way switch auto trippd to reset at night. It can use tiny solarcells to wirk as sensors. All it needs is power, 12v is plenty!
Glad to see you back! 🙌🏽
I had no idea the Mylar reflective films degraded so fast. 1.5 years is not very long; I wonder if a sheet of glass or polycarbonate over it would increase its longevity?
Considering that the main factor seems to be that the film tears off, maybe just gluing it to something rigid
Putting the dish in a box with plexiglass cover would shield it from wind, hail and debris :D losses should be minimal (better than replacement costs for the reflectors 😅)
Nice very nice video
Hey Sergiy ! Do you know the channel of Brian White ? He found a way to detect if the reflecting material is good enough or not, it may interest you !
Maybe you can put a plasma arc discharge light where the collector is, evaporate the clouds so the sun can shine again. Or you know, whatever else you might want to evaporate
desert sun 02 has done similar. Now, all we need is sunshine...
Sergij! This mirror film can't mirroring for long time. The glas mirror, or polirosed stainless steel is the deal.
Sad but true if you had a buffed out piece of quarter inch thick aluminum it would be like a mirror on each side of the solar panel try it will give you more than 6 times the amount of energy in 1 panel thus to control the heat .to not burn the panle
If you can find an old projection TV, grab the lens from the box. It's like a giant magnifying glass.
Fresnel lense! Those things are great solar concentrators and sturdier
Yes a new version of the 140 miles to a gallon carburetor.
Solar/wind energy is a BuiiShlt! Useful just for small and distant homes.
it’s an honor to be on the thumbnail of your video 😜
gotta love it ; )
nice
Use the solar energy to split water and collect the hydrogen
hydrogen + nitrogen >> ammonia (liquid fuel)
Para que funcionen estos sistemas solares.... debes instalarlos en un desierto
Seems you could put the collector on the ground - in a static location - and use your mirror to tilt and turn to direct the solar into that ground spot.
And what if that spot is a mirrored cone that focuses to an underground spot? Then your collector is insulated by the surrounding ground.
Рад снова услышать Вас. Цилиндрические рефлекторы не получили продолжения?
I was bored not catching fish on hot summer day, and made a solar cooker from a mylar potato chip bag....
How about just using old discarded crisp packets glued to found cardboard to make mirror tiles? That should be practically free
If the reflective plastic film is blown away by the wind in one year, it is very polluting. You should not only look at the price.
Rather than moving the receiver from morni g to evening, can't you directly heat the pipe? This way, you just heat different parts of the pipe over the day, but you don't need to move it. Though you might have to make the pipe larger and increase its shadow.
Right, that's what trough solar collectors do
Do you have any details on inexpensive items to turn the heat into electricity?
exactly, because I don't think that steam turbines are cheap, and actually I can't find them anywhere.
@@SDRsUnited right
The Seebeck effect converts heat to electricity.
@@richerathernotsay427Is it strong enough to convert to 120v? I was hoping he would show how to do it or something. Thanks
@@BornFreeFilms 120V 15 amps would take a bunch of heat. Thermoelectric generators are not efficient. Solar and wind are way more efficient at converting to electricity.
i vote to put sergiy in charge!
I'm watching your videos from some time right now, and when a new video comes out and I start to play it, I feel like I'm having a dejavu. All of them have the same content...mirrors, hot oil, and some prices. No relevant measurements, no real data you've colected during the past years. So I'm wondering what's the purpose of your videos?
Вітаю, а якщо використати лінзу яка буде нагрівати нерухомий приймач сонячного тепла? Тоді не треба буде дзеркал. Тільки придумати як постійно тримати фокус на приймачі.
Можно и так. Но просто линза, без зеркал будет... мягко говоря - более капризным механизмом. Тоже о таком думал, потом пошарил в нете и пришёл именно к такому выводу. А вот если совместить солнечный коллектор, линзу и генератор ДС, то КПД должен увеличиться.
The arms holding the receiver block a portion of the receiver. Would it be possible to put the recipe er on a drone? Could the drone/receiver unit be made efficient enough to run off energy coming from the mirror with less energy than is lost by the arms+the cost of maintaining the arms?
How much electricity did u made?
Hes here!
Можно сделать и условно механическое, недорогое устройство коррекции без ненадёжной, сложной и дорогой электроники или с минимумом оной. И тем повысить КПД. Ну мне кажется, это принципиально возможно.
Look up Arduino programming you could automate the moving with a servo and and arduino
наконен-то топоповое видео! лайк. Прикольный эксперимент. Мне нравится что вы используете доски для для прототипирования
а что за масло вы использовали, которое нагревается до 300 градусов?
Термальное масло или термо-масло. В интернете посмотри для чего оно служит.
А фольгированая плёнка, которую вы используете в вогнутых эеркалах - это отражающая плёнка для электрического подогреваемого пола?
wow
Oh can see u took it from technical farming,one india solar thermal power plant video😊
isn't a sphere best , solid ball
"soolAr PanaNelS caN bEa Seen NinnthiSwa and wE can SeE..."
A very interesting vidoe , i think the french were trying sometink similar some years ago but it is certainly worth looking at .?
Вери глэд ту хир ю Сергей, надеюсь с вами всё в порядке.
Maybe it's interesting topic but it hurts my ears to listen the second person reading the script (the first one is also not good but not that bad).
Ateş bulunalı onbinler asır oldu...😂😂😂😂
Kaj pa če bi ogledalo naredil iz inox .
i hope youtube provides you some funding
Lmao, TH-cam algorithm censored my comment
it's not even here
Welcome to the club 😄 YT sux
The first part was ai, then you started later? Was not watching, just listening
Trillions and trillions of watts electricity
Yea... but na... no free lunch..
I don’t see the advantage of moving the receiver with huge awkward arms, and elegantly rotating the mirror. Actually, I think solar thermal is bogus; many big projects have failed.
You can use smaller and cheaper actuators.
Sergiy, PLEASE do not use horrible computer generated voices speaking, not in English but in Americanese ... even for the introduction.
Your Ukrainian accented English is beautiful .... and GENUINE and is appreciated across the whole English-speaking World.
Наші думки з вами.
Great Video. Slava Ukraini!
Hope you are doing well. Long live Ukraine!
Dude. quit with the round mirrors already... Look at it!
A solar trough can be made using your low tech and a copper pipe to follow that line.
no moving parts at all, just a different part of the same pipe being warmed by that mirror cell.
Exactly the same energy goes to the medium inside the pipe except for the loss of a few inches distance in early morning and late sunset.
Right - and how many animals planes will you kill and down????
I call this B.S. 1st thing he imply's is solar is cheaper. It has never been, or will it ever be cheaper.
Sergiy! Thanks for the video. I think in your calculations you do not take into account the needs for daily/weekly/monthly/annual maintenance. If something is moving or flowing, it has the tendency to break at some point. Also, the dust problem for the mirrors should be taken into consideration. But, good job! Glory to Ukraine!
London is capital of Great Britain.
Is that nighthawk? You bumbing content off other peeps, dude?
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Use only the robot's voice, please. Spare our hearing
Some of us like his real voice narration better. We can understand him clearly ; making it a multilingual success!
His English speech says that he is a human , in a war torn country and making a realistic determined effort to help others improve solar worldwide!!
I wonder how many languages he speaks?
Too cumbersome