I think the SF Giants organization would be the perfect fit. They can build homegrown talent around him, they have the more recent WS legacy, the pacific time zone, the beautiful stadium, the huge Asian population and history in the Bay Area, the short right field = Ohtani splash hits I just think it works the best for everyone if he’s in SF. They can build a strong team around him
We may witness the first player of any sport to make a B in contracts. When you can strike out 5 or more ppl, hit HRs, have speed rounding the bases, generate talk from any and every member of media it’s undeniable. Sho definitely a legend already. I pray injuries dnt ruin what we’re seeing. 🙏🏽💯
I wonder if Colin knows what age MJ and Bron won their 1st title, saying Tatum can’t be a no.1 ever is crazy, he isn’t that rn but hes on the trajectory
@@isaiahthomas4444 Ben better than giannis as a rookie? Sounds believable...given the hype on Ben, the pieces around him, and being red shirted in the league...hard not to objectively say it
Ohtani can be the team's best pitcher, best hitter and best base stealer at the same time. On the flip side, if he gets injured, then the team loses their best pitcher, best hitter and best base stealer at the same time.
As an Angels fan my whole life I have to say Shohei and Trout are like 95% of why I’ve even been interested or excited at all to watch my team the last few years. Really disappointed the organization hasn’t gotten more winning done with them around!
Ohtani is actually getting good press coverage lately and he’s still undervalued. It’s amazing when Colin says “once in a 100 year player” and it’s not hyperbole 😂
Ohtani just continues to amaze. I don't know how far he can go but he's already eclipsed the Mike Trout conversation (not easy to do BTW) And now what? He deserves a big stage. I can't see but a few iconic organizations that could be a fit for this level of greatness. I mean .... really .....who? Yankees for sure, Dodgers very probably, Red Sox and Cardinals maybe. Who else? Geeze I dunno.
Sorry Collin I think he went a little too far let’s face it way too far about Ohtani, their are people and I mean thousands of them that cry to see Messi, Ronaldo, etc. soccer players more than Ohtani in the grand scheme of things very few people know who this guy is
Man, you must have excoriated LeBron back in 2009 for only making 2 ECF appearances in his first 8 seasons if you're out here killing Tatum and Brown for making 5 out of the last 7
Considering his offense AND pitching is elite level, logic would suggest he’s worth that of 35 million dollar position players and a 35 million dollar pitcher. Now, do you get a bit of a discount seeing as a serious injury doing one or the other is multiplied by 2? Sure. I think 60-65 million per year is fair. I wouldn’t give him a 10 years contract though. 5 max at say 325 million.
Ohtani is 29. How long will this deal be? Im fine giving him a total of 60-70 million a yr. My issue is it shouldnt be more than 6-7 yrs. A 10 yr deal is crazy
Agreed there’s a bit of embellishment by Colin, but Shohei has hit more HRs of 440+ feet than any other player in the league currently. He’s the best power hitter in baseball right now.
the downside of baseball is the game's biggest stars OFTEN aren't playing on the biggest stage. NFL - all the top quarterbacks are playing in the final 4-8. NBA - all the best players are in the second round. would love to see Shohei pitching in the World Series at some point, but it feels like the Angels will never compete, especially if they have 2 players taking up 90% of their payroll.
I just hope we really get a true unrestricted free agency with him next year, where all the big teams are bidding He’s starting price could be $700 million
C’mon colin, comparing not even in their prime yet Celtics to Prime Steph days is just funny. Tatum and Brown have had a better start to their career then Steph/Klay/Dray did. They had to wait til old man Timmy and Dirk retired while Celtics are facing current primes of some great players. 😂😂😂
The only league or players you can compare Ohtani to would be basketball players. Because they play both ends of the floor. The elite players play both ends and they can do everything on the court at an extremely high level.
I’m glad Collin spots what I’ve been seeing from the duo of Tatum & Brown over the years. The duo has ran their course. The breakup between the two should be soon.
@@sindilacion I mean 4 eastern conference finals trips over the years and one finals appearance and still don’t have a ring? What do you mean get real?😂
Great point about Nuggets moving on from Nurkic and Warriors moving on from Monta. It seems like moving on from a redundant #2 has worked in the past. The Blazers faced similar issues with Dame and CJ. I still think Tatum and JB deserve one more year before separating them
@@goodiegoodiegumdrops 2 things I remember bout AD in 2020: the shot he hit against Denver, and the fact that he played better than LeBron that season.
They dont have enough for Dame... unless Philly or SA will take a guard, for tobias, or collins & sochan... Porzingas,.. Williams,.. Jordan,.. Collins, Sochan & Picks
Idk Colin the Celtics are as good as it gets in basketball, bad is Was, bad is Det bad is Cha, just because they haven’t won the title yet doesn’t make them a failure, there’s only 1 champion every year and there’s always a crazy injury or two that changes how the playoffs are played the Celtics will have their time too just like Milwaukee did just like Denver did it’s the teams that build their own stars and stay with them that become truly special
Why in the world would Portland want Jalen Brown, over paid and a choker in the playoffs, Dame is a better player. You guys make zero sense, they have future draft picks to help them rebuild. use some common sense
1. They're never more than a handful of special players in the league at any given time. 2. Tatum is a very good player meaning that you can win a championship with him in the right circumstance. Just like %99 of the NBA. 3. G.S knew Curry was a special shooter but they had no idea he was an all-time great player. 4. Colin would bail on his kids if they're not special. 😂😂😂
I hate this dumb narrative that Tatum is AfRaId of big moments. Bro shot like dog 💩 in Game 6 against Philly and kept shooting to help win them the game. He’s proven even if he’s losing he’ll go out swinging
Yo you gotta chill. Think about how these teams are built now. You need a lot of help to win. Back in the day these teams didn’t have all these superstars on every team you had to beat. You had a few super stars here and there with some helpers here and there. Now it’s super teams that have damaged the league and teams trying to be good to go against them.
@0:45 and there you have it folks... The obligatory Lebron mention that these guys have to make any time they talk about the NBA. And said in a negative light to boot.... LeBron "Bailed On" the whole damn Eastetn Conference huh😂.
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Thanks Colin for shedding light on Ohtani, if he was an American he would get wayy more attention. What he’s doing we truly haven’t seen.
Ummmm yeah, because then we would be able to communicate with him.
@@pbnajhe speaks English…
@@pbnajohtani SPEAKS ENGLISH SPANISH AND JAPANESE
@@pbnajjust because he’s Asian you assume he doesn’t speak English?
Hard to relates with someone you can’t speak with.
Man I’m impressed that there is so much baseball talk on sports talk shows now because of Ohtani
That’s why he’s worth so much
it's the off season
Colin is like a legend to me. I literally started watching his show before I started watching any US sports. Now I'm a big NBA and NFL fan.😂
Welcome, as a ten year plus fan of The Herd with Colin Cowherd . You are in good company as this show is one of the best in the business.
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@@TheHighlander2727 Despite some of his goofy takes he is a GOAT.
Same😅
That’s really cool!
A player as legendary as Ohtani deserves to be on the World Series stage and cement his potential greatest player ever legacy.
Why do you think the Dodgers didn’t spend any money last offseason?
Giants, Dodgers, Yankees and maybe Mets will be bidding $650-750 million.
I think the SF Giants organization would be the perfect fit. They can build homegrown talent around him, they have the more recent WS legacy, the pacific time zone, the beautiful stadium, the huge Asian population and history in the Bay Area, the short right field = Ohtani splash hits
I just think it works the best for everyone if he’s in SF. They can build a strong team around him
Hurts so much as an angels fan to completely agree with this
As a tigers fan I wish we would give him 1 bill
We may witness the first player of any sport to make a B in contracts.
When you can strike out 5 or more ppl, hit HRs, have speed rounding the bases, generate talk from any and every member of media it’s undeniable. Sho definitely a legend already. I pray injuries dnt ruin what we’re seeing. 🙏🏽💯
Mahomes may hit 1B before depending only on how long Sho sign for. If not mistaken Mahomes got 8 or 9 more years until another 500M+ extension
Baseball players will always make more money than any other sport
I wonder if Colin knows what age MJ and Bron won their 1st title, saying Tatum can’t be a no.1 ever is crazy, he isn’t that rn but hes on the trajectory
This dude is the same dude who said Ben Simmons was better than Giannis and a rookie. Idk why anyone cares what he says
@@isaiahthomas4444😭😭😭
@@isaiahthomas4444 Ben better than giannis as a rookie? Sounds believable...given the hype on Ben, the pieces around him, and being red shirted in the league...hard not to objectively say it
@@isaiahthomas4444that’s a fair take tho
@@isaiahthomas4444 That was a reasonable take at the time considering Giannis was even more of a garbage refbabby a few years ago.
Let’s not mention in that same 6 years the Boston guys HAVEN’T even hit their prime yet until just now meanwhile the Warriors guys were in MID PRIME💀😂
Curry won his first ring at 26 and klay and draymond are a little younger . So they are in the same age range
@@jesusblanco7657 most guys don’t win their first title until 27-29 this take will age badly for Colin.
@@EEB2633 i mean Im just talking directly to the person that was wrong lol
@@EEB2633that’s assuming they’ll even be on the same team and it’s highly unlikely they will.
Shohei is a beast. Once in a lifetime player. Too bad the angels can't help him win a championship
Ohtani can be the team's best pitcher, best hitter and best base stealer at the same time. On the flip side, if he gets injured, then the team loses their best pitcher, best hitter and best base stealer at the same time.
This is why the Angels have to trade him. They have to get something for him. They can't just let this guy walk away.
Relax Colin, Tatum is only 25. Steph and Giannis were all older than that when they won, include Lebron and Jokic in that list.
I always love when collin talks about Ohtani, I just need him to be more into the baseball realm
Colin is way better than these other sports shows because of segments like this.
As an Angels fan my whole life I have to say Shohei and Trout are like 95% of why I’ve even been interested or excited at all to watch my team the last few years. Really disappointed the organization hasn’t gotten more winning done with them around!
They have wasted Trout and now we will get to see them waste Shohei. Both guys deserve to be on better teams.
Wait… Colin is always talking about how he came from nothing, grew up poor blah blah blah and his dad was an OPTOMETRIST??
Tatum was on the team with kyrie for two years how has he been a one for 6 years and he’s been in the league only 6 🤡
No throwball player, no bball player except Wembanyama, agree
But there is a Football player like him..
King Léo 🐐👑🦁
Ohtani is actually getting good press coverage lately and he’s still undervalued. It’s amazing when Colin says “once in a 100 year player” and it’s not hyperbole 😂
love colin's takes on ohtani
Well said. Amen. Say it for the people in the back room. Ohtani is a 🐐 and 🦄. If he stays healthy, Ohtani will be w GREATEST EVER !!!
Agree
Ohtani just continues to amaze. I don't know how far he can go but he's already eclipsed the Mike Trout conversation (not easy to do BTW) And now what? He deserves a big stage. I can't see but a few iconic organizations that could be a fit for this level of greatness. I mean .... really .....who? Yankees for sure, Dodgers very probably, Red Sox and Cardinals maybe. Who else? Geeze I dunno.
Just give Ohtani 25% ownership stake in the Angels . The Giants are offering 3.3% of Silicon Valley.
Ohtani is going to go down as the greatest of all time. This is incredible.
Sorry Collin I think he went a little too far let’s face it way too far about Ohtani, their are people and I mean thousands of them that cry to see Messi, Ronaldo, etc. soccer players more than Ohtani in the grand scheme of things very few people know who this guy is
Man, you must have excoriated LeBron back in 2009 for only making 2 ECF appearances in his first 8 seasons if you're out here killing Tatum and Brown for making 5 out of the last 7
Considering his offense AND pitching is elite level, logic would suggest he’s worth that of 35 million dollar position players and a 35 million dollar pitcher. Now, do you get a bit of a discount seeing as a serious injury doing one or the other is multiplied by 2? Sure. I think 60-65 million per year is fair. I wouldn’t give him a 10 years contract though. 5 max at say 325 million.
Ohtani at 04:35
Ohtani is 29. How long will this deal be? Im fine giving him a total of 60-70 million a yr. My issue is it shouldnt be more than 6-7 yrs. A 10 yr deal is crazy
His take on Tatum is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Tatum is still just 25 and getting better
Ohtani is amazing. Best of this generation hands down. But he’s never hit a 500 foot homer, let alone a 600 foot one
Don’t take it literally, he’s just saying that he has incredible power.
Agreed there’s a bit of embellishment by Colin, but Shohei has hit more HRs of 440+ feet than any other player in the league currently. He’s the best power hitter in baseball right now.
It’s not even an exaggeration. Ohtani is the best player the sport has ever seen maybe ever.
the downside of baseball is the game's biggest stars OFTEN aren't playing on the biggest stage. NFL - all the top quarterbacks are playing in the final 4-8. NBA - all the best players are in the second round.
would love to see Shohei pitching in the World Series at some point, but it feels like the Angels will never compete, especially if they have 2 players taking up 90% of their payroll.
The angels will never win. They would be smart to trade him to a contender and get something in return.
I just hope we really get a true unrestricted free agency with him next year, where all the big teams are bidding
He’s starting price could be $700 million
C’mon colin, comparing not even in their prime yet Celtics to Prime Steph days is just funny. Tatum and Brown have had a better start to their career then Steph/Klay/Dray did. They had to wait til old man Timmy and Dirk retired while Celtics are facing current primes of some great players. 😂😂😂
They have zero rings to show
The only league or players you can compare Ohtani to would be basketball players. Because they play both ends of the floor. The elite players play both ends and they can do everything on the court at an extremely high level.
"Sandy Koufax, the best hitter ever."
Colin's just gonna lay that out there without any further explanation, huh?
Best monologue in sports 😅
Tough truth.
😮 did he just mention ... a hockey player 👏👌🙌
Othani needs to leave as soon as possible
There is not context with the Celtics topic. Tatum didn’t get the keys until year 3
Scotty pippin is a great example too he was absolutely fantastic alone. but being a 2nd to Jordan was perfect for him
I’m glad Collin spots what I’ve been seeing from the duo of Tatum & Brown over the years. The duo has ran their course. The breakup between the two should be soon.
"Over the years" were you expecting a title before the age of 22💀 get real
@@sindilacion I mean 4 eastern conference finals trips over the years and one finals appearance and still don’t have a ring? What do you mean get real?😂
LEBRON DIDNT WIN A TITLE UNTIL AGE 28
$1bn for 17 years is the only contract he should sign
The Celtics aren’t the warriors.
Amazing take. I applaud the courage
Dame to Celtics
Great point about Nuggets moving on from Nurkic and Warriors moving on from Monta. It seems like moving on from a redundant #2 has worked in the past. The Blazers faced similar issues with Dame and CJ. I still think Tatum and JB deserve one more year before separating them
Word is they're trying to keep those two together *plus* add Lillard.
Tanana and Ryan and Two Days of Cryin' used to be the Angels slogan.
7:47 snd hockey too.
Anthony Edwards Jaylen Brown Rudy Gobert
White Tatum KP KAT
Who says no?
Great segment Colin but you gotta knock it off with the "Koufax is the best pitcher ever" thing
Was AD really a 2 in the bubble year? It was more a 1A-1B kind of dynamic.
Definitely a 2
@@goodiegoodiegumdrops 2 things I remember bout AD in 2020: the shot he hit against Denver, and the fact that he played better than LeBron that season.
@@salvatoresultana4058 so your saying lebron was 2?
Can anyone explain how Colin still has a show? Guy literally doesn’t watch sports yet has the craziest opinions.
They dont have enough for Dame... unless Philly or SA will take a guard, for tobias, or collins & sochan...
Porzingas,.. Williams,.. Jordan,.. Collins, Sochan & Picks
NBA Finals appearances at 25:
Tatum: 1
Giannis: 0
Steph: 0 (4 years in Steph had NOT been MVP twice, but cook, I guess)
Jokic: 0
Dirk: 0
Jordan: 0
Does Collin remember the warriors tried to trade Curry to the bucks? Only reason it didn’t was bucks were worried about his ankles
EMBID as a no. 1 is what 😂, KD as a no. 1 😂 colin should know what's his talking about 😊
Idk Colin the Celtics are as good as it gets in basketball, bad is Was, bad is Det bad is Cha, just because they haven’t won the title yet doesn’t make them a failure, there’s only 1 champion every year and there’s always a crazy injury or two that changes how the playoffs are played the Celtics will have their time too just like Milwaukee did just like Denver did it’s the teams that build their own stars and stay with them that become truly special
Love the baseball coverage
Dude, Larry Bird was horrible in that first Finals against Houston. Cornbread Maxwell was the MVP of that series.
Curry didn't win anything until his sixth year. I actually agree with him about Tatum but Colin often exeggerates facts to make a point.
Stock piling what colin? 😂😂 @3:15
Tatum is First team All NBA twice by 25...Slow the roll Colin
fully agree with your take that Tatum isn't special. He lacks the killer instinct and the mentality to be special.
Steph wasn't even an All-Star in his first four seasons (albeit one lost to injury) let alone a two time MVP. He won his first MVP in year 6.
Why in the world would Portland want Jalen Brown, over paid and a choker in the playoffs, Dame is a better player. You guys make zero sense, they have future draft picks to help them rebuild. use some common sense
Shohei get$800M
The Dodgers need to open up the check book and bring in Ohtani
Giannis as a 1 who cannot shoot!!!!
Tatum isn’t Curry but I think to say he can’t be a #1 is unfair. A bunch of deep runs and not winning doesn’t mean they can’t win
The Gm of the real life Celtics 100% plays franchise mode on 2k and cheeses the system
1. They're never more than a handful of special players in the league at any given time.
2. Tatum is a very good player meaning that you can win a championship with him in the right circumstance. Just like %99 of the NBA.
3. G.S knew Curry was a special shooter but they had no idea he was an all-time great player.
4. Colin would bail on his kids if they're not special. 😂😂😂
Lmao Tatum has been VERY successful for his 6 year career. Bro is only 25.
I couldn't disagree more with Colin. He's only 25!
Gathering 2nd round picks to trade for Giannis😂
Jaylen brown and 2 firsts for devin booker. Suns wouldnt do it but its a good offer
Curry was not 4 years in 😂
I hate this dumb narrative that Tatum is AfRaId of big moments. Bro shot like dog 💩 in Game 6 against Philly and kept shooting to help win them the game. He’s proven even if he’s losing he’ll go out swinging
700m deal, Definitely doesn't want to win
This guy does know that the celtics were young right? 6 years? You can count on 1 hand how many guys as a #1 option won a ring at 23
Colin just pretending Connor mcdavid doesn’t exist. Mcdavid is the best athlete in the world right now
This dude said giannis is a 1 but tatum isnt as if they dont have the same finals appearances
Giannis has a ring bozo
Ohtani would still be denied at Harvard.
Nice to dream but it's not going to happen.The Celtics will make a significant move that is why they are accumulating all of these assets.
Yo you gotta chill. Think about how these teams are built now. You need a lot of help to win. Back in the day these teams didn’t have all these superstars on every team you had to beat. You had a few super stars here and there with some helpers here and there. Now it’s super teams that have damaged the league and teams trying to be good to go against them.
Making fun of a team for not winning in first 6 seasons is comical
I believe Tatum is not hungry in the off-season He’s not finding a way to improve. All year he ain't got that junkyard dog in him.
Colin as usual doesn’t know what he’s talking about in back to back years. He ran out Giannis and Embiid.
Steph was 2x MVP seven years into his career. Not 4.
Jays are looking to not pay guerraro
And want the biggest star on the planet talk
I see a trade basically staright up
Really hope dont get Gianiss
@0:45 and there you have it folks... The obligatory Lebron mention that these guys have to make any time they talk about the NBA. And said in a negative light to boot.... LeBron "Bailed On" the whole damn Eastetn Conference huh😂.
Trade Tatum
Mahomes career might say otherwise by the end of this about being mythical like shohei
Tatum fan are going to storm Colin’s house for telling them truth
No one should make 700 million too play a game .
Yes!!!! Baseball