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Surprise! Ancient Supernova Remnant Is a Bizarre Object We've Never Seen
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Supernovas will never cease to puzzle us. That's the best thing about them.
Nice work, Anton.
Dr. Jason Kendall has uploaded the his astronomy lecture notes and covers supernovae in detail.
I'd add the qualifier: STARS will never cease to puzzle us.
This is fascinating. The universe seems endlessly willing to supply us with weirdness. I greatly appreciate your telling about some of it. 🙏🏼
It probably crossed the stable mass threshold and partially collapsed, which triggered the carbon burn. But, it's already so small and dense that this carbon burn is going at a radically accelerated rate. It's probably also fusing other elements swiftly as well and producing all manner of odd isotopes due to the electron-degenerate matter making up the original white dwarfs. Portions of its core might even be being forced into neutron-degenerate matter by the extreme pressure and density, as this is a star that SHOULD be collapsing into a neutron star by its sheer mass alone.
That was the big clue it not a white dwarf it was too heavy meaning something more was preventing collapse.
me edging a white dwarf:
Centrifugal force is probably preventing its collapse, but allowing high enough temperatures to burn carbon, etc. Remember fusion is a product of pressure (density) and temperature. With enough temperature, the pressure doesn't have to be as high.
@@ReggieArford The pressures are going to be outrageously high by default, as this object is the result of two stellar cores crashing together and just barely exceeding the Chandrasekhar Limit and managing not to totally collapse into a neutron star due to the sudden ignition of carbon fusing at a very high rate.
The mystery is what its fate will be. Since it's straddling that mass limit, if it has enough carbon to burn as it's losing mass from its immense stellar winds, it may just sink beneath the limit and eventually simply 'go out' and become a very heavy O-Ne white dwarf, rather than undergo a supernova.
wonder if its spinning too fast to collapse properly?
Textbooks always make stars sound so steady and predictable and it turns out in real life they just do whatever they want.
True enough! Stars never needed permission to be as exoctic as they really are.
That is the standard model for you. Seems like nothing is standard.
It's like a giant fusion bomb going off continuously . There's no certainty in any of it, just an average yield forced back by immense gravity...
They only do that which physics dictates, and they cannot not do it! As for textbooks: Well, 2D pictures.... I can see it, but some of the stuff shown in animations are literal representations of hundreds, thousands and even millions of years, and all of the color is often added, because they exist outside of the visual range. So all that and it's freaking Awesome to see it like that to aid in understanding.
Of course flat earthers and freaks who think stars are something totally different will claim "NASA faked it" when I would say "Hell yeah they did! How else could they make invisible light or a fine particle cloud that otherwise just looks like a gray smudge or something out of focus, visible and exciting so you can better wrap your head around it?" "Oh wait, obviously not your head Flurf, it seems defective"!
@@faster6329 The standard model car around the time I started driving had probably over a thousand less parts than the standard model car today, so you are right, the model keeps growing as more data comes in. It's not a bug but a feature!
Ain't nothing normal in space anywhere . . .
"Normative" space is yet to be examined.
I want take time to appreciate how anton has yet to appear to sell out to the typical youtube marketing giants that have destroyed channels left and right and he remains a wonderful and perfect content creator
they don't destroy channels, the creators destroy themselves. for money.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🤘😎
This is the intriguing exotic star ever reported on by you or any other science TH-camr I follow. Thank you! I just opened the Astrophysical Journal article you provided a link to. This reminds me I need to renew my subscriptions to Nature and Science. Incredible!
4:00 Now that's what I always thought a supernova should look like- a big firework going boom!
The possibility of it going supernova in our lifetime is beyond thrilling!
Remember that we're also looking for a supernova possibly to show up in September 2024. I forget what star exactly but it's in the Hercules constellation. If they get the date clothes like they think they did this will be the first time we've been able to predict when a supernova is light will reach us. It's supposed to be visible to the naked eye for a week.
@@SteveSiegelin It's a "regular" nova, t Corona Borealis, and it goes off every 80 years or so. AP has already done a video about it; also Dr. Becky & others.
@@ReggieArford it's still a Nova, I might have accidentally said a supernova but it's the same basic principle as what's going on in the video as it is a binary star. Eventually they will go supernova but you are correct. My whole point was to let people know that didn't already know. Some people may have missed it.
A new category of star might be some of the most exciting news this year.
awesome! i love when we find things that confound the worldview to help expand our knowledge
thanks anton
"These aren't the supernova remnants you're looking for..."
"These aren't the supernova remnants we're looking for..."
@@dropped_box "Move along."
Don't force your opinions on us.
Ha, I knew someone had to say it! 🤣
My first thought also 😆
ObiWan Petrov: this is the supernova we've been looking for.😊
Yep.
Sincerely,
Luke Skywalker
Yo mama so fat, Obi Wan once said
"that's no moon...... that's yo mama!"
I love it when we come across a mystery, because it means we'll eventually learn something new!
90 90s. Anton is a treasure.
Hell Yes! Awesome, intelligent man
Wow, this thing is gigacool! So, you basically have a Wolf-Rayet like stage of a White Dwarf produced by a rare kind of stellar merging. Making it the hottest and rarest star in the entire galaxy! I love it!
Hey, this sounds like a dumb question (and not intended to be a smart ass one) to me but I know very little about Wolf-Rayette stars other than the cursory info. How are the two similar?
"Bizarre object we've never seen", seems to be JWSTs middle name.
Every time we take a closer look we find something new.
Always so interesting. Thankyou wonderful person.
What a time to be alive 👀ツ
Ain't it, and happy to witness it.
Anton, there are many stars in our galaxy whose temperature exceeds 200k Kelvin. E.g. NS¹ RX J1856.5-3754 is 434,274 K. ¹NS: neutron star.
Wow. This is huge news. Thank you anton for sharing. I remember myself asking for posters from nasa by actually writing a real handwritten letter to them. And they send me some. Look where we are now. ❤
Amazing update Anton.
Thanks mate.
Great upload Mr Petrov, enjoyed it.
When it comes to some stars, densities and sizes must surely vary, it's like no two stars are exactly the same, similar perhaps, but every circumstance is inherently different to the next. Good job sir.
". . . it's like no two stars are exactly the same". I bet You can't find TWO the same.
@@chicojcf I surely can find two exactly the same with my eyes closed. Open, not so much.
Dude, are you actually producing videos seven days a week or do you stock them for the weekend? They’re great. I appreciate them but man take a break on the weekend anyway!
When I tire of the barrage of political BS and doom of world economic distress I come here to the calm of Anton's presentations. I always feel better. Thank you.
Amazing archio white dwarf story 200,000 kelvin,and nuclear and 30 years old.this time frame/window has got to be one of the most intensely interesting object in astronomy
Despite what some people insist we don't know everything just yet.
NOT even close.
@@chicojcf 🤔😃
nobody said that...
We barely know anything at all despite our many discoveries.
@@midoribushi5331 So true. Unfortunately there are people who think that their really stupid ideas must be true. So sad, no logic.
I would like to be the very first to predict the existence of the Reusserburg certainty principle. This predicts that the more people expect that a given specific star will explode into a Nava or Supernova the less likely that even is to occur. The probability of a supernova occurring is inversely proportional to the number of people watching for it. This is a variation of the watched pots and boiling family of stupid sayings.
problem is no side is sure if they are right. Betelgeuse could have been supernova, but because light doesn't go faster as c, we will only notice when the 'supernova light' reaches us.
At this moment everybody who says Betelgeuse has gone supernova could be right, and everybody who says it hasn't could be right too. I'm not sure if more people watching Betelgeuse think it has gone supernova (which in your statement means it hasn't) or if more people think it hasn't ( which would imply it has, according to your Reusserburg certainty principle).
Matter of fact is our human life spans do not compare to these astronomical timescale. (which leaves a lot of room for grifters and people who just say something because they're influential in their group and no one can say for sure they're wrong)
What if none us look? It could stay in superposition for eternity.
Or just Reusserberg's law. The likeliest candidate is Betelgeuse but while it could have already gone off, for us it hasn't and in the meantime, something else will have happened based on some physical property we don't know about.
@@edreusser4741 So nicely put.
It's Shrodinger's Cat.
A little light on black holes today! Oh I'm getting dizzy looking at those two spinning dots.
10:53 this smile ☺️
I would like to see a supernova before my demise.would you put in a good word for me with the cosmos, please, Anton? Thank you!
The 1500s time frame is interesting research.
1572 Tycho Supernova remnant
1582 10 days added to the calendar Oct 5-15th
1583 Meteor shower mentioned in the Timbuktu Manuscript
Art depictions of people riding dinosaurs
Map with ice free Antarctica
UFO battle over Nuremberg
Here is a question; What is the physics, that gets neutron stars spinning so fast? It takes our sun just over 26 days to make on rotation, what is the forces that gets neutron stars spinning at 716 times a second? What is the force that makes them spin fast and how is that force exerted to create a spinning motion?
Commenting to feed the algorithm 🙃
This is intriguing, and amongst your video library a unique discovery and that is saying alot.
Fabulous episode! Core collapse supernova from a white dwarf…wow!
Another fascinating video. Just one slight correction, because it popped up more than once: it should be "some time ago", not "sometimes ago". "Sometimes" means "occasionally", where as "some time" means "an amount of time".
Thanks for all your hard work! ❤
My mind is blown. I usually hate that idiom. But it fits here.
your poor mom, having to clean that off the walls ...
JWST is stepping on all the expectations.
Wow. So interesting! Thanks.
The Universe doesn't give a damn to what humans think ....... or expect ....!!! Good video.
6:36 _"...Though normally some of these isotopes have a typical half-life of about several days, in these extreme environments a lot of these isotopes can become ionized , preventing them from decaying for hundreds and hundreds of years."_
Wait, what? Nuclear decay is _nuclear,_ it doesn't care about what goes on out in the electron orbitals. Since when can ionization reduce the nuclear decay rate by four orders of magnitude?
Always new mysteries! Thank you for revealing them to us!
As our favorite Vulcan would say, " Fascinating."
I think ancient space is fascinating. It's like modern space but even more mysterious, what's not to like?
Thank you.
I HAVE SOLVED IT!!! I have solved the GUFT... Space is a politician... ask one straight forward question and be left alone with 19 new, even more confusing question! :-)
Naaa… politicians answer you the way you would like them to answer… politicians are like string theories … the Universe doesn’t even listen to our questions.. 😅. …
Hi Anton, around @6:40 you mentioned the ionisation of radioisotopes preventing their radioactive decay. I've never heard of this effect, can you tell us more? I have been led to believe that only time dilation effects can impact the decay rate of radioisotopes.
Ionizing radiation impacts nuclear processes, which in turn affects nuclear decay rates. Published decay rates are for isotopes in a relatively benign environment.
Interested readers should check out our paper where we nailed the identification of the central star of Pa30 with SN1181AD (and also the amazing spectrum of the central star itself - dubbed Parker's star): "The Remnant and Origin of the Historical Supernova 1181 AD", Ritter et al, 2021, ApJ Letters, Volume 918, Issue 2, id.L33, 6 pp.
Wow, that X-Ray picture of the super Nova is x-ray was fantastic
8:28 so it’s a White Neutron star.
if it goes nova again as a star of some sort it should be call a Champagne super nova lol twice fissioned :):)
thank you anton
I am not sure that 10000 light years away can be considered "the vicinity of Planet Earth" but great explanation as always. Thank you.
in a galaxy 100,000 light years across it's closer than far away. :D
Wow, at 3:52.
The irony of trying to predict the future with light that is thousands or millions of years old.
Great. Now they'll have to revise what is the definition of a star to include some weirder things that get found.
This gave me an idea for a supped up nuclear weapon. Good thing we are not testing them anymore. Some things are better never made.
What a peculiar object, and so nearby! We _should_ be safe from it at a thousand light-years. Hopefully we are not aligned with the magnetic poles.
I am curious how an atom being ionized prevents radioactive decay though. Something doesn't add up!
Bizarre indeed Anton! TFS, GB ):
Hello wonderful Anton
Really unusual
Really interesting, great presentation 👍😊
Very soon? Sweet! I'll mark the calendar for my children's children's children's children's grand kids!
That supernova a few centuries ago must have created a record high pulse of neutrinos hitting the earth.
nice one
At 1.4 solar-masses, Anton, this star is still 0.04 solar-masses short of the Chandrasekhar limit.
👋🏿 hello wonderful Anton!
i love space
This star could be a never-before-detected White Dwarf-Neutron Star blurring line type remnant.
Similar to a Quark Star is the middle ground between a Neutron Star and a Black Hole!
Ionization prevents/delays nuclear decay? That's a new one! What could possibly be the mechanism for that?
Curious what AI will achieve with all available data we have, train on low res images and let him identify new objects, i thing a lot of new objects videos for the future 😄👍🏻
Anton, You're a star ⭐
The white dwarf limit assumes a nonrotating star, does it not? I would assume that this object is rotating extremely fast, which could affect the limit.
Anton, planet Earth will always be the most rare and bizarre object in the universe.
How do you know?
One of the weirdest stellar objects ive ever heard of... I wonder how it looks if you could get a good view of it
Super nova probably way to birth new structure with more dense mass
As the supersized white dwarf cools and slows rotation, it may gravitationally collapse down into a neutron star or black hole.
would be interesting if only the ionization of that nickel isotope is extending the half life or if its paired with the mass. i think of making these syntetic elements made by particle accelerators longer stable than a few nano seconds.
Further revealing the electric nature of our plasma universe.
Do we know the orientation of where the poles are of this star?
is the possibel soon to b supernova possibly dangerous to us on earth ? .. great vid
0:48 not new really, but the stem side of academics is taking it more seriously now, and that's good news.
Could this become a delayed Type Ia supernova? If it's over the Chandrasekhar Limit already, it should've already blown up by now. Or become a neutron star.
Anton you ever going to cover The Sol Foundation - White Papers, on UAP?
UAP: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
In this case the ‘Unidentified Anomalous’ part means we don’t know what it is, if it was aliens, we would then know what it is, and it would just be a ‘P’ which obviously means ‘Phenomena’, so the government even referring to it as a UAP should give you some clue as to whether you should be jumping to conclusions about what it is.
UAP: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
In this case the ‘Unidentified Anomalous’ part means we don’t know what it is, if it was aliens, we would then know what it is, and it would just be a ‘P’ which obviously means ‘Phenomena’, so the government even referring to it as a UAP should give you some clue as to whether you should be jumping to conclusions about what it is. ,.,,.
We’ll see but he mainly covers actual research papers talking about scientific discoveries. Have they released any scientific research yet other than “based on these reports, we should do this to be prepared”? I don’t think there would be much to cover for the type of content that is consistent with this channel
Thanks, Anton!
I love when scientists are absolutely flabbergasted when something doesn't fit their models of how things "should" work as if we already know everything. It's really sad to see.
Has anyone considered the possibility of stars being outlets for black holes?
A reverse Type 1a. Could it be possible that a large mass star wandered by and gravitationally snatched the outer layer of hydrogen and helium?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this been predicted before? So called Helium and Carbo (not giant) stars that form from two very similar white dwarfs colliding. I think I saw a video on this topic back in 2019.
Sounds strange to hear of a white dwarf so much more massive than the sun.
They say if you live long enough all your heroes will disappoint you. I love your show even more over the years just don't do a show with Joe Rogan and I'll always be here. Love to you and yours.-P
It's crazy to think a star exploding thousands of lightyears away or a comet billions of miles away, influenced humanity through astronomers. Civilisations came and went on the back of these observations or they were used as an excuse I suppose.
I need to learn why conversion to ionised particles prevents them from nuclear decay or something....
Talk about a slow spinning polsar to slow to be natural
Where was the class that compaired the two diffirent findings, and called the location? Seems like it was a long shot.
Brighter than Saturn? They knew about saturn?
Fascinating.