@5:18 same here....I wonder what gigs my drums have been to in the past ! Thanks for the video - very helpful, my P85 keeps slipping. Like yours, my supraphonic must be 40-50 odd years old, so it's done well to last this long. I added a spring below the thumbwheel - helped for about a year but the thread is worn & it's slipping again, so after seeing your post, I'm going for a P88AC. Your butt plate is interesting - wonder if it's a later addition ? My plate only has string holes, it can't take a ribbon - which might explain the extra plate being added to your drum.
Actually they are talking about the 400 and the reason why is Hal Blaine. Hal Blaine played on just about every hit song and album you can think of in the 60s,70's into the 80s. Here a list of hits but not only did he play on the hit songs, he played on the whole album... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_song_recordings_featuring_Hal_Blaine. Hal was the drummer of the Wrecking Crew. A lot of the songs aren't even listed there...He played on over 35,000 recordings, including 6,000+ singles.
I had the same problem with the width of screws... I don't understand why would they f*ck that up so bad. I'm from EU so Ludwig drums are way more expensive here than in US and I don't want to damage my shell. The worse thing is, the buttplate isn't fitting either, not only screw widthwise, but also lengthwise between holes for screws. I don't understand what they were doing... like they "update" their poorly designed P85 with not poorly designed strainer, but they f*ck it up with this??? Sorry for swearing, great video!
@5:18 same here....I wonder what gigs my drums have been to in the past !
Thanks for the video - very helpful, my P85 keeps slipping.
Like yours, my supraphonic must be 40-50 odd years old, so it's done well to last this long.
I added a spring below the thumbwheel - helped for about a year but the thread is worn & it's slipping again, so after seeing your post, I'm going for a P88AC.
Your butt plate is interesting - wonder if it's a later addition ?
My plate only has string holes, it can't take a ribbon - which might explain the extra plate being added to your drum.
Yep the butt plate looks stock, maybe just a later Ludwig one. Who knows what might have happened!
Actually they are talking about the 400 and the reason why is Hal Blaine. Hal Blaine played on just about every hit song and album you can think of in the 60s,70's into the 80s. Here a list of hits but not only did he play on the hit songs, he played on the whole album... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_song_recordings_featuring_Hal_Blaine. Hal was the drummer of the Wrecking Crew. A lot of the songs aren't even listed there...He played on over 35,000 recordings, including 6,000+ singles.
I had the same problem with the width of screws... I don't understand why would they f*ck that up so bad. I'm from EU so Ludwig drums are way more expensive here than in US and I don't want to damage my shell. The worse thing is, the buttplate isn't fitting either, not only screw widthwise, but also lengthwise between holes for screws. I don't understand what they were doing... like they "update" their poorly designed P85 with not poorly designed strainer, but they f*ck it up with this???
Sorry for swearing, great video!
Yes very frustrating! I don’t even want to tell you what I did when updating the strainer on my DW Edge snare…..but it’s in one of the other videos!