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How to always remember the chord changes whilst improvising! | TOM QUAYLE
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Hey everyone - I hope you're all well and enjoy this mini lesson on my strategy for internalising chord changes whilst improvising. I'd love to hear your methods for memorising chord changes - feel free to leave your ideas and discussions below! Thanks to everyone that's checked out the Ultimate Fretboard Visualization course and Solo 2.0 so far! Happy practicing and see you all in the next one. Tom
Just at the start of my journey and using solo but wondering how you track intervals across a chord when you don’t start from a root. If I’m playing multiple notes, I could be starting on a b7 and then moving to a b3 above and then a 5 above that. Are you always jumping back to refer to a root every time or do you memorise the intervals between intervals (ie the interval between b7 and b3)
I visualise everything from the root note ascending or descending from that root note visually within an octave. This is what the course in the video description teaches.
@@tomquayleguitar so if you’re on a b5 and wanted to move to the next b3 you would look forward to the next root first and then find the b3 from there? (Ie two moves to get there essentially)
Thanks Tom, great video, I love these ones!
I've been working on your visualisation course for a couple of years, and honestly, it's pretty transformative. The hardest part is applying it as I tend to fall back into old habits when improvising but the things I can play now along with my understanding of what I'm playing, compared to when I started your course is night and day.
It's loads of work but so worthwhile, thanks!
Tom that Ibanez guitar you're playing sounds great.. Intonation when you're playing chords is spot on.. you must have had some work done on it !
It's really great to hear a well know guitarist say they can't play everything they hear in their head, they didn't memorize The Real Book, and they can get lost in tunes--because that pretty much sums up my experience with playing jazz. I even studied jazz at a university and got a degree in it! lol My impression has always been that I should learn 200 jazz standards in all 12 keys. Learn all different scales, modes, and chords in all 12 keys and then forget it when you play. Only play what you hear. Transcribe and memorize a couple of great jazz artists' solos on a few standards. Twenty years later I still wonder when I will play something meaningful over Autumn Leaves! You've laid out some good techniques to practice, but your openness about your struggles as a musician is what makes this video nice for me. thanks
A FREE masterclass from a master!! Thanks so much Tom. I'm hopeless at remembering progressions so this is gold.
No problem at all! Glad you enjoyed it.
I have been struggling with this process like most guitarists and it is very nice to see how Tom breaks down the thought process of improvising on the fly and what you should and should not pay attention to while practising for this!! Very helpful.
Here's some tips. Taking All The Things You Are example. As guitar players we tend to follow the chords by the Roman numerals, if the change goes up, we go up, when it goes down we go down. But look at this progression 2-5-1-4. Don't follow the numerals try going up in 4ths for each chord. 4ths and 5ths are interchangeable. Going up a fourth is the same as going down a fifth. F up a fourth is Bb, F down a fifth is Bb.
Great tip!
Very cool. Bach Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin are my favorite pieces in the world. He was one of the greatest improvisers of his time. He and the lutenist/composer, Weiss, used to have fugue jam sessions.. Great lesson. Thanks!
Wow, another year of work ahead of me! Your advice is greatly appreciated; what youre saying makes total sense.
Thanks a million Tom.
As well as being a magnificent player (one of the greatest, in fact), you’re also a wonderful teacher.
LOVE the honesty Tom, thanks so much for the lesson 👍👍😘🎸💥🤘
I so totally appreciate that you take music, if not as seriously as I do, then more so.
People say music is like speaking a language, but think about it - when you're speaking words, your mind thinks exactly the way Tom describes... you're thinking ahead to where the sentence is going, just like he's looking ahead to the next chord rather than thinking about the current chord too much. Awesome stuff as always man!!
Very true. It's the exact same thing when you solve a rubiks cube really fast ;)
Thank you, Tom. Makes perfect sense and is very useful. It is the only online guitar lesson I found that really tries to teach how to think ahead and its encouraging to hear that it doesn't happen with just a snap of the fingers.
My pleasure!
Thanks, Tom, you're a great guitar teacher. When I was younger I would get completely lost when soloing and just play what I heard in my head. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. It was only after I really started developing my ear that things started to change for the better. I had to slow down tremendously and just practice "listening" to the music underneath as I soloed (very slowly). I could recognize basic chord changes (1 4 5, 1 5 6 4, 2 5 1) and could target my solo notes on the changes. I'm good for the average pop/rock song, but Jazz is still way beyond me and easy to get lost, what with that walking bass. Keyboardists seem to have developed that better than us guitarists, because they do the chord changes on the left hand and melody on the right at the same time. Improvising is like multitasking, accessing at minimum two parts of your mind simultaneously, one for the chord changes and the music underneath, the other for the solo you are constructing. And the third part of the simultaneous multitasking brain (which is now the hardest part for me), linking the two to make a beautiful statement that fits perfectly, or at lest melodically. I even like my happy accidents now (the wrong note) so long as I now exactly where I am in the song!
Thanks for the comment! Multitasking is absolutely right - so many things to juggle whilst improvising, especially over jazz standards and complex chord changes. Good luck with it!
Man Tom it’s always a treat to hear you play straight ahead, hoping to hear more of it!!
Thanks so much - I love playing straight ahead when I get the chance! I'm very out of practice. Haha.
Amazing! When I started to play jazz that way you show, this consumed me a lot for a long time! But today, looking deeper, it really opened my mind to be able to deal with any type of accompaniment or solo! your tip is fantastic! 🙏😁🎶🙌
Tom, Thank you! beautiful lesson and my favorite tip/instruction from you is "the more you practice the easier its gonna get".
"Horrible picking technique?" Nice tutorial. Thank you for producing it.
Great topic Tom - this is exactly what I have struggled with. You have a great ability to clarify issues, explain them clearly and develop solutions - thanks a lot!
My pleasure!
Thanks! I've been waiting forever for this video. I'm actually a fingerstyle player/ singer, but I am required to solo from time to time, and keepint track of the changes has always been a problem. You outlined my difficulty with precision up to 6 minutes in, and I will definitely give your method a try. Cheers.
Excellent Tom, thanks.
Amazing lesson, Tom.
This is excellent ! I worked with David Beebee a few years ago to get the interval visualisation problem sorted, but this issue is still problematic for me. I have never seen this isolated so well. I still have to read charts for even simple tunes just so I can get through the solo sections. Thanks Tom you’ve inspired me to go back and work on this specifically. But also shows I’m not the only guitarist with years of playing under my belt to struggle with this
Thank you so much. The new solo 2.0 has also actually improved my sight reading skills as well.
That's amazing to hear! Thanks.
This is super helpful. I have the exact same issue when ever playing over standards. Your solo sounded great!.
Thanks! I can't just take this lesson without giving something back ❤❤
Discovered your giant steps improv from 10 years ago... very inspiring
I spend 30 min on Giant Steps every day for the last 14 years
That was a great lesson Tom it addressed an issue that I struggle with that makes me build little riffs to transition which interrupts any flow. Great stuff! Thank you!
Thanks!
Thanks for this Tom. Really been struggling internally with why it’s so hard for me to memorize some songs. This helps my man, you are the best❤
My pleasure!
Love the Solo app, Tom. It's absolutely brilliant and I noticed fretboard nav improvement within days.
Great to hear!
Really REALLY good exercise.
This is really great info.. I've been playing guitar for a few years but just started focusing on jazz about 8 months ago. Improvising over changes without getting lost has been probably my main challenge. I'm going to start incorporating this into my practice routine. Thanks!
Great - glad you found it useful!
Tom Quayle rules!!Amaazing video
Thanks!@
Thank you Tom. Brilliant as always and just what I needed. I find that applying your system to just an alternation of just 2 chords (!) all over the neck is a challenge, but a very good one for me.
My pleasure and yes, great idea.
Great lesson. Right on time for me. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
excellent lesson!
Much respect for you.
No way that I can ever do that. Good to know!
Thanks for this lesson! Great way to learn the chords!
My pleasure!
OMG, another guitarist that tunes in all fourths! not many of us out there. Just had to note that. Great video!
I'd noticed the fingering looked odd!
Respect for the amount of effort this man puts into trying to help others! Bought the app sometime ago but right now really trying it out. Finding some difficulties in finding structure in practicing it, but the way it works is amazing. The only thing I think it’s missing is like a step by step for every category. Like in this video. Some guidelines you can follow to find structure, and master every category. Thanks a lot man!!!🙏🙏
My pleasure and thanks for the kind words!
Great lesson, Thankyou 🎸
Thanks - glad you enjoyed it.
❤really helped me out
OMG! My TH-cam algorithm magically landed on this video and you moved my world. Thank you for an unprecedentedly marvelous demonstration of cognitive modeling (this is what I’m thinking whilst I’m playing, and some of the troubles I might encounter, and it’s okay not to play in time and think ahead, etc.) and for modeling a practice technique that informs every chordal routine on the guitar. Thank you for a very informative and inspirational post. I am a fan! Bill
What he said. ✊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great lesson Tom - the skill of anticipation whilst playing in the moment too! This is Jedi level stuff to work towards but this is a really great way to build a path towards it! I'll get to work on this, and love the Solo app by the way, really great way to work on so many aspects of playing.
Thanks so much!
Just what i needed, the struggle is real when it comes to playing lines and not forgetting the progression
It is indeed - glad I could help a bit.
Great class, thank you very much brother!
My pleasure!
Good lesson! The only way for me to remember a jazz standard is to remember the melody in my mind, in this way you can also play songs in any key.. It works🎶
Killer improvisation Tom in this tricky song. 🍻🎸
Cheers!
In my experience, this problem disappears when you start seriously practicing chord note soloing. Just practice arpeggios starting from all chord notes up and down, then practice soloing with only chord notes, then add chromatic approach notes and last add scales. Total game changer for me, transformed my playing from sounding like scales to sounding like jazz. Also taught me to really hear chord changes and relate them to melody.
I also own an As103nt Ibanez. Such an under the radar guitar. Great lesson btw. 👍
Cheers
Me too. Cracking guitar!
Wow Tom! your helping my brain!!
btw, your Solo app is very very,good cheers
Thanks so much!
Brilliant video, many thanks Tom :0)
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks!
Great playing! Wow!
Thanks!
I absolutely love how the answer is basically "walking bass"!
I think learning a song in its most basic form first is really useful even if it’s one strum per beat, it familiarises you with the changes and I always find it easier to hear and feel them later because of doing it, another good variation after the first one is alternate a bar of strumming and a bar of a scale or line, again this really emphasises the chords and the internalises the changes
Thanks for your thoughts! Very interesting.
U R GEM man thanks
Thanks!
What you have said, applies very well to the piano. Will certainly try it over some standards. Might try two bars at time to make remembering chords easier.
Yeah - I've been meaning to try this out on piano actually. Good call.
cool stuff
Good to hear you have a weakness! I’ve been doing something similar with nursery rhymes. There’s a pdf online of a jamey aebersold camp that contains about 50 basic tunes you can figure out by ear. I’m harmonizing those with chords that are manageable for my level. Just focusing on those strong beats and guide tones for now. Cheers
7 seconds in: subscribed. wow.
Thanks and welcome!
I must have a really good memory because I never forget the chords.
E & D
“I've been through the desert
On a horse with no name” 🐴 🎸
If your song has more than two chords.., you’re playing the wrong song
Haha!
Interesting… Tom mentions that he “has to know” what the next chord will be. Also, I remember Larry Carlton saying “just give me a chord chart and I can play a solo”. On the other hand, it has been said that Chet Baker only wanted to know what the first note of the tune was, and then he just played the head and a brilliant solo, apparently just by listening. I’ve played with several horn players who seemed to be able to to that. So let’s do a little show of hands… which school of thought do you guys adhere to?
I'm not sure it's neccesarily a school of thought per se - if I had the aural ability to play exactly what I heard in my head I probably wouldn't need these strategies either. I've met many musicians who say they just play by ear, and almost uniformly they have incredible aural skills either through perfect pitch or naturally highly developed relative pitch - either from starting very young while the brain can still soak up information like a sponge, or pure genetic luck. For the rest of us, these strategies level the playing field as much as possible.
It’s worth finding Hank Garland’s version of this tune, for a great demonstration of Tom’s suggestions.
Right at the exact point I'm at in my limited ability of learning the guitar. I'm gonna start working on this for sure ! Have visited your website and am seriously considering purchasing the Two-Point System...do you ever see offering the System at a reduced price ? It may be so popular right now that the "economics" of it just wouldn't make sense...but no harm in asking !
Fortunately I come from a generation who know this (ATTYA) as a song, and I just sang along with the the Ella Fitzgerald version and only fluffed the key change in the middle 8. I double checked with Frank Sinatra version and, as I suspected, he sings it in a different key. So probably best to learn the song (if there is one) and get it down in 251 chunks or whatever form suits, unless you're really good at chord transposition (which I'm not!), or just avoid any singers who can't sing it in the common key!
Lovely sound!❤. Don't stop impressing peoples Tom. Here From Indonesia❤
Thanks!
I've pondered this problem for many years. I'm not sure many great, earlier players consciously used memorization. Maybe some did. More likely they used aural memory than visual (chord sheets), which came from how they learned tunes. If you had a memory lapse your cue was hearing the changes as they went by rather than imagining them as a sequence of chord symbols. That would then free up the brain from trying to do too many things at once. Just my tuppence worth.
Here's another tip that no one ever shows and that's how to get through the chords, don't just treat them in isolation. Look for the semi tonal movement between the chords. The m7th to major 3rd is really strong. Where you have a dominant chord going to a major chord you've got the minor 7th to major 3rd a simple semi tone away. The 12 bar blues is a great place to start to develop this stuff. Majority of jazz is based on the blues
Nice! Thanks for both of these tips.
can't go back to regular tuning after i tried and learned your idea of 2 note visualization. .Can you pls Tom make a course of 4th tuning non lame version of chords
I play in a cover band, and use arpeggios all the time. But many times i have no idea about the chord changes, cause sometimes arpeggios dont outline the chord(often the low root note isnt in the arpeggio, so its hard to figure out) i would love to be able to solo over chord changes, but i just listen to the song, and slide to a note that works. Hope one day i can play the changes, but it seems too hard for me to learn.
Thank you Tom, I subscribed after 3 bars, it’s refreshing seeing music instead of shredding,
Being self taught bass player, have struggled with motivation or progress, I put in about 2 x hours a day on apps etc I was an engineer on lots of Jazz Albums, when I asked many times what were you thinking while laying down the tracks! They all said I had no thoughts going on at all !
So do i, feel didnt have connection between brain-ear-finger so i cant create lines using my instinct. Gonna try this lesson hopefully work well , thanks 🙏
Ojalá ésto pueda ayudarme. Muchas gracias
Yay!!!
Thank you! Is an Android version ever coming of solo?
This is the thing I need to nail…. Well it’s about time I nailed something after 30 years
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yoooooooooo this is the first time i see someone using the same guitar as mine :D
It's a beauty!
Thanks Tom this makes a lot of sense and I guess it will help lines to flow to the next nearest note of the chord to come...and so on. I usually play without sheet music but I was wondering what your thoughts are (and I know it's cheating) if I have the chord progression in front of me, won't this eliminates the necessity of the dual thought? Of course the problem that then occurs is the need to look up at the sheet music which will give new problems 😆
I must admit I tend to rely on actual chord charts a lot, but I do play much better when I'm not looking at the page.
Exactly! Thanks for the reply.
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I've heard alot of musicians tell to not memorize chord for chord, rather chunks of progressions to simplify and think ahead easier. I guess there is no straight answer to this topic. Practicing etudes is another technique to internalize changes, but maybe not so effective for becoming aware of the isolated chord? But maybe in a context though playing in cautious manner with a set interval pattern.
I've heard this too and of course, in my head I'm grouping all of the relevant chords into key centres and know their function within the key. For me, unless they appear in my mind one after the other in sequence, I feel like I'm lost.
This is really helpful thank you Tom. by the way What a beautiful guitar what is the model number?
Thanks! Its an Ibanez AS-103.
I have one. Love it.
@@tomquayleguitar Did tou take out the pickguard or this model came without it?
I took it off@@maikijazz
Great video Tom, question. Why 3 and 5 and not 3 and 7? Just wondert
No reason at all - I was just picking notes at random and that's where my brain went.
why are your B and E string a half note higher?
Do you mind to share What is the model of this Ibanez guitar?
No probs - it's an AS103-NT
I have this same Guitar, same colour too. They are brilliant and a real sleeper.
What's the tone at Tom? I mean the guitar is very bright
It's bright because I left the room mic in, so you're hearing string noise and brightness from that on top of the original tone.
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nice vid. there’s the aspect of recognizing the larger architecture so it’s not just a stream of individual chords. those larger chunks as you know, may be targeted similarly. cheers
What’s the model name for the Ibanez?
AS-103 NT - discontinued model. I wish they'd bring it back!
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Very good, keyboard player
Is that an Ibanez AS103NT? It looks exactly like my guitar.
Yes - one of the best they ever made IMO.
I love mine too! I also have a matching 105FNT arch top.
Is solo a one time payment or a monthly subscription
It's a one time payment.
You're not a bad picker at all.
Thanks - it's so hard for me to do well, so that's nice to hear.
I need a coffee
Hard to imagine you struggling with much of anything - nice to know you're in the same boat as the rest of us in some ways! 😂
Oh, I struggle with plenty! Haha
Hello Maj/Min/Dim Tom... 😀
Hello!
@@tomquayleguitar Dude your playing is truly phenomenal.... beautifully phrased, and equally beautiful fluidity in your playing.... greatly appreciate the hard work you've put into crafting your musicality. And, thank you for sharing your music.... glad to see your hands/fingers are back in better health too.. take care...
Thanks!@@jawzjamz9363
you can just do a one or two chord vamp then you dont have to worry about it
8:34 mic drop. :)
Exercise begins at 8:07
I find it difficult to remember the changes of tunes that I don’t really like listening to. The problem is , that cuts most jazz out for me !
Haha!
huh, great lines! Much ear pleaser than ur other 'fusion' kinda shredding runs. Just these strings suck sound wise - for my taste. Flat wound would fit better. (opinions from an amateur)
Ha! Glad you like the lines. There's a lot of mic bleed in this mix, which I really like, but it does make the strings sound thinner for sure. I like the attack. Haven't used flatwounds for years now, but I used to be addicted to them back in my more serious jazz days.
@@tomquayleguitar yes, the mic picks up string noises , u didnt play loud (fortunately :) ). Great playing! I was a bit disappointed when u were fiddleing around in a guitar dusplay show before Greg Koch , but these lines show me how great you are
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