6 All-Aspect Missiles at a Crazy Low BR | Su-22UM3K War Thunder

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  • Have you ever wanted to sling multiple highly agile, all aspect missiles at poor flareless enemies? WELL DO I HAVE THE THING FOR YOU.
    Both the Su-22UM3K and Su-22M3 have these, but with some small differences between the two.
    00:00 Intro
    01:30 Flight Performance
    05:03 Weapons Kit
    06:53 Only 1 Cannon
    08:05 CAS
    Userskin: live.warthunder.com/post/1058...
    Outro Music: • Fights On - Summer Ski...
    Discord link: / discord
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  • @Tuhrue
    @Tuhrue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    I feel bad for the flareless planes that run into this thing:') however, planes/players I'd gladly face in this thing are F-5C players. Do I have to explain? They full commit every single head on they can take and well, I have r60Ms, so just park that thing on their forehead at 0.8km

    • @mateuszsa7
      @mateuszsa7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I dont get why ppl hate F5 soo much. Mig 21 and F8 are much more broken. I know its annoying but why is it only F5 that gets this treatment?

    • @v3es473
      @v3es473 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@mateuszsa7it will absolutely shit on the F-8 (F-5 is faster and is also more agile in short term, and about equal long term, though the f-8 has better acceleration at low speed) and as for the mig-21, it will absolutely shred a mig in a dogfight unless the F-5 pilot is a dumbass, + BS damage model. The three are about equal performance, HOWEVER the F-5 has that advantage of surviving a fucking nuke if it hit it.

    • @Tuhrue
      @Tuhrue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@v3es473they also have that near 1:1 TWR at about 0.95 mach so they also out accelerate stuff around that speed range so they basically stick on your six at high speed while you try dodging their rounds

    • @jayklink851
      @jayklink851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When I play 10.7 these days, I get a lot of matches that have three-to-four 11.3 planes; it's not the sweet Goldilocks range that it once was. At least with my experience.

    • @Tuhrue
      @Tuhrue 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jayklink851 isn't just you my guy. I have consistently faced F14s, Mirage 2000s, the whole lot while I'm there sitting in my F-5E lol. I had to go 1 v 6 yesterday in the thing and I survived about a minute until matra magic 2 came knocking on my door

  • @carlosmedina3794
    @carlosmedina3794 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I remember this livestream. You should've let the original audio with your diabolical laughter as you threw fire arrows to the unsuspecting enemy.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Shhhhh don't tell them 🤣

  • @Joey_Liu
    @Joey_Liu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I still have your evil voice playing over my head as you bully these children

  • @sixtiesspiderman6268
    @sixtiesspiderman6268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I actually would say the laser-guided munitions are pretty good at this BR. You don't HAVE to go into the camera view to guide the missile - if you just turn on the laser designator and then de-select the targeting point lock ("Deactivate Target Point" keybind) after firing the missile, the laser actually follows your cursor as you're flying the plane in mouse-aim mode, so you can use them as a mouse-guided munition pretty similar to the Fireflash missiles on the Swift F7. They're MUCH more accurate that way. I regularly do this with the SU25BM using two KH29L's and four KH25ML's and it's dead easy to pick up two to three kills this way despite its atrocious targeting camera.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I might have to try this then, thanks for the tip!

  • @ItzCPU_
    @ItzCPU_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video

  • @vurdel9799
    @vurdel9799 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    And the J-7D/E is at 11.0 with rear aspect.

    • @ianbad02
      @ianbad02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i think the E is okay at 11.0 because it has an amazing airframe, but the D is a mig-21 mf at 11.0 with rear aspect, only, compared to all the mig 21 bis’s at 11.0 with literally 6 all aspect missiles, it’s crazy

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      F4E, from 1967, with 60’s era missiles, at 11.0 :(

  • @Kaelsier
    @Kaelsier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I watched this live Grandpa, you can't hide your age. Also, that Kfir pulled such a good down on you with his Kvochur, the tac view showed how wild of a shot it really was!

  • @TinchoX
    @TinchoX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dogfight footage gave me anxiety.
    Great video as always!

  • @ferencnovotny1644
    @ferencnovotny1644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video Grandpa Lee

  • @oblivious1900
    @oblivious1900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    POLAND REFERENCE

  • @masterbaconman1
    @masterbaconman1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hell yeah

  • @vincentreim8962
    @vincentreim8962 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Su 17 m2 in the corner: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!! To gaijins balance team

  • @RogueKnight768
    @RogueKnight768 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always love "seal clubbing"

  • @rodneycook3674
    @rodneycook3674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    AJS37 now at 10.7 with 2 aim9Ls and 2 Aim9Ps. The gun pod is rather painful to use though.

    • @rowanyuh6326
      @rowanyuh6326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dislike the decision to move it down

  • @spartsombri4422
    @spartsombri4422 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i was on the stream when that kfir went tom cruise mode, you were gonna clutch that game if it wasn't for that detail since after you looked on the replay you could see that the Mig-23ML was out of gun ammo, sadge lol

    • @BOSs-1313
      @BOSs-1313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and it seems like the kfir was out of fuel too, r60 could barely lock on it, so engine was probably cold

    • @spartsombri4422
      @spartsombri4422 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BOSs-1313 yeah true but that's very weird since it looked like the kfir just took off since he was coming from their base direction and even had missiles
      (edit: nvm i only saw it now that he actually came from the ally base side)

  • @sakyuz6080
    @sakyuz6080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i saw polish camo
    i clicked
    simple as that.

  • @EricThyKaiser
    @EricThyKaiser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yo Lee how'd you get those different smoke textures? I've been hunting for an explanation or ages

    • @pleaseexitthepool6517
      @pleaseexitthepool6517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You have to travel back 7 years and buy a dog tag from event

    • @MANNYzZ
      @MANNYzZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it was 2021 new year smoke

  • @serjacklucern4584
    @serjacklucern4584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh this thing is definitly going up.

    • @rowanyuh6326
      @rowanyuh6326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Itll go back to 11 where it was before

  • @armando3168
    @armando3168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funnily enough you don't have a camera for the laser guided missiles, the very small zoom you get is the pilot leaning over looking at the sight.

  • @liqui.
    @liqui. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    POLAND MENTIONED RAHHHHH

  • @tylerburnell7306
    @tylerburnell7306 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @martinvesper3233
    @martinvesper3233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't know which game you played, but in WT this plane gets full downtier 5 times out of 100 battles. Most of the time you have to play 11.3.

    • @patriktoth6258
      @patriktoth6258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or you can play SB and you get uptiers for 4 days (to 11.3/10.7) rest is full downtier.

  • @philips0905
    @philips0905 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where do you get these thrust charts from?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a bot that pulls it from the github, it used to be on Defyn's discord but it got disabled. Now someone is hosting it on a private discord.

  • @spacedude2762
    @spacedude2762 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Stop giving all aspect missiles to planes that play against low brs >:(

    • @jaelpikner9872
      @jaelpikner9872 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gaijin: 🫵😹

    • @spacedude2762
      @spacedude2762 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaelpikner9872 We must move on and feed the snail 😔

    • @user-tb9pn2xx5v
      @user-tb9pn2xx5v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      U have missiles to counter them

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its not even that high, aim9L at 10.0 is. And these are crappy R-60, that could be flared by literally anything with heat signature (even tiny mighty mouse can flare them ffs).

    • @HazardousFrk
      @HazardousFrk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 show proof of youb doing this

  • @spacecrow9459
    @spacecrow9459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    POV: 1 flares: R60M IM COMING

  • @Bf109F-4lover
    @Bf109F-4lover 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will I still be able to have fun with the Hunter F.58, being new to 9.7?

    • @TM-bv5yw
      @TM-bv5yw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hunter F.6 be like: hold my dead beer 💀

    • @scaniadan2968
      @scaniadan2968 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

    • @Bf109F-4lover
      @Bf109F-4lover 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TM-bv5yw same plane no flares lmao...

    • @Bf109F-4lover
      @Bf109F-4lover 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scaniadan2968 ok then.

  • @fulturk4306
    @fulturk4306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait were these missiles just added to it? Last time I checked there are only to Su-22s in the german line and the 10.7 Su-22 only had R-60s

    • @muhamadafrifauzi5695
      @muhamadafrifauzi5695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they once added it before, and just remove it somewhere between it, and they added it again right now lmaoooo. I also remember when swinging R-60M in the 10.7 before they remove it.

    • @fulturk4306
      @fulturk4306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@muhamadafrifauzi5695 oh my, this thing will interesting to play

    • @muhamadafrifauzi5695
      @muhamadafrifauzi5695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fulturk4306 thanks to this, 10.0-10.3 are mostly get uptiered to 10.7, there's so much people using this plane, which also mean so much people just died because forcing a strike aircraft fighting a fighter jet lol.

  • @DragoneyeVII
    @DragoneyeVII 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This plane would be immensely shit at 11.0 so 10.7 makes sense

    • @patriktoth6258
      @patriktoth6258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Su17/22M4:"Am i a joke to you?!"

    • @DragoneyeVII
      @DragoneyeVII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patriktoth6258 Thats the cool part, yes.

  • @derritter3873
    @derritter3873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just gotta say. Rest in peace to all the Mitsubishi F-1s and T-2s that have to go against R-60s. But since this plane clearly shows that Gaijin is willing to put the R-60 at that low of a br, then when does the F-4EJ Kai get its AAM-3s?

  • @rekamtihgaming1
    @rekamtihgaming1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah this thing in air sim is broken right now 😭

  • @aidanlim9898
    @aidanlim9898 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesnt the russian one only have like 18 flares or am i losing it

  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    r60m's are known for ignoring flares below 1km even when burner is completely off but you need to enslave to radar first.

    • @cmdrTremyss
      @cmdrTremyss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how can you do that?

    • @RT42069
      @RT42069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had AIM-9P do that too, with the F-104S (not sure if his burner was off though).

    • @RT42069
      @RT42069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cmdrTremyss just radar lock your target and most IR missiles will automatically put their seeker on whatever is locked.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sometimes it works yeah, iffy though

  • @dutchdragon2472
    @dutchdragon2472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean seriously, who the fuck mid-mounts sweeping wings INTO ANOTHER WING

  • @mutingp
    @mutingp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sim content when?

  • @KaguyasBeat
    @KaguyasBeat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NASCAR level's of turning here. Vertically to. Puts them to shame.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      REAL. We love NASCAR

  • @MANNYzZ
    @MANNYzZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:10 love getting energy trapped then third partied as im about to kill lee

  • @sdghtjsdcgs
    @sdghtjsdcgs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TIL the F-5C is flare less.

  • @m3chgeek470
    @m3chgeek470 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG and all the AXIS players are complaining about the F8U- 2 being op this had 6 all aspect plus speed same BR REALY LOL

  • @augustollorens2209
    @augustollorens2209 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the problem is this plane have more flares the squad on is not op

  • @suzybean13
    @suzybean13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wassup lee?

  • @emonster317
    @emonster317 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rip member list (mine is expiring in 2 days😢)

  • @LewisB3217
    @LewisB3217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Avg gaijin soviet balance

  • @akidafloof
    @akidafloof 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gaijin: Russian Bias does not exist
    Also Gaijin:
    Edit for anti stupid clarification: This is a joke, the plane is still from Russia, and I'm used to all aspect missiles.

    • @vincentreim8962
      @vincentreim8962 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ITS GERMAN, the soviet one only has 12 Flares

    • @gasparferrandisromero1075
      @gasparferrandisromero1075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you bother that R60M (1.5km all aspect shit missile) is at 10.7, you will suicide when you notice 9L being at 10.0

    • @akidafloof
      @akidafloof 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gasparferrandisromero1075 It was a joke, and I play 10.7 and 11.3 so I'm used to all aspects.

    • @akidafloof
      @akidafloof 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vincentreim8962 It was a joke

  • @paranparanovic3923
    @paranparanovic3923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can get R60s at 9.3 soooo

    • @oniceguard9205
      @oniceguard9205 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but those are not R-60m (all aspect) and sadly the yak-38 is.... Kinda lacking in every flight performance department so you getting a rear aspect is kinda hard

  • @Frogg-YT
    @Frogg-YT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to be fair, a brainless player is the only player who is gonna die to an r60 (any variant) from head-ons

    • @cmdrTremyss
      @cmdrTremyss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so 80% of the playerbase

    • @Frogg-YT
      @Frogg-YT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yup, honestly just go for the premium players

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The r60 essentially ignores flares if you launch it right, you don’t need to be brainless, unless you mean the soviet pilot launching it

  • @MrKumi
    @MrKumi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ITS 10.3 IN SIMULATOR BATTLES LMFAO

    • @ianbad02
      @ianbad02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that’s brutal

    • @MrKumi
      @MrKumi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ianbad02 yes, also, factor in that you can choose your br in sim battles depending on the br bracket schedule those few days

  • @EricThyKaiser
    @EricThyKaiser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: The Su22M4 WHICH IS ALMOST 1 FULL BR HIGHER is now officially useless and the M3 is an A10/Su25

  • @mokaso
    @mokaso 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The A-10s and Su-25s are fine where they are. But the other's could change.

  • @depressiverocker4083
    @depressiverocker4083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To say that the aim 9L have any kind of flare resistance is just lying at this point. I play the tech tree A10, I hope I got 1 r-60m for every two aim9L I have. It's just absurdly useless against flares. Actually, today my missile directly ignored the plane I was targeting and tracked a flare 10 KM AWAY.

  • @enzohumeau8864
    @enzohumeau8864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hopefully they don't change it, it's a huge target. A single flare throws off any R-60m. You can only get kills on clueless people sticking head on without flaring, wich is their fault for not preflaring in a head on in 10.7 matchmaking, or people that didn't saw you. Anyone remotely decent in any plane can get kills against F-5s that stall themselves out or straight flying A-10s at 10.3 due to the ammount of brainless wallet warriors who have no idea how anything in the game works, it's not a problem related to the Su-22UM3K, it's because the 70$ players are bad.

    • @waki0069
      @waki0069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you forgetting about all other planes that cannot preflare because THEY DONT HAVE FLARES?

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@waki0069 Use rockets. R-60 is bad enough to be fooled by anything that burns for even a second.

    • @enzohumeau8864
      @enzohumeau8864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waki0069 Are you forgeting about all other planes that have 30g missiles at this br ? Or even lower, like the A-10s and Su-25s for exemple ? If you don't have flares, and still want to stick a head vs a potentially all aspect carrying plane, you lack game knowledge. Just don't stick head ons, or take rocket pods if you can, it acts as flares really well in head on. or stay like 2.5 km away from potential R-60m carrier, and 4 km away from 9L carriers. Comming from a big Ariete player.

  • @jblack1593
    @jblack1593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah and it's still a bad plane NEXT

  • @sahermaged1579
    @sahermaged1579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    R60MK

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's the exact same thing 🤣

    • @ianbad02
      @ianbad02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it’s just the export version, it’s the same as the m just different name

  • @anguscovoflyer95
    @anguscovoflyer95 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hahaha “enemy kill stolen”

  • @mateuszsa7
    @mateuszsa7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They are actually easy to kill. You go head on, flare and kill them when they try to pass you.
    A10 and SU25 were annoying, and now 9.7 is even more fun.

    • @mushlook7251
      @mushlook7251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And what are people supposed to do without flares again?

    • @mmneaapro596
      @mmneaapro596 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mushlook7251 Ngl, only the german version is this competitive in arb
      While the russian and italy su-22m3 have better engines
      They barely got 2-6 flaring opportunities

    • @mushlook7251
      @mushlook7251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mmneaapro596 No no what i meant was "how are people supposed to fight R-60Ms in planes without flares?"

    • @mateuszsa7
      @mateuszsa7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mushlook7251 I play harrier fr1 and just shoot missle at their when head on. In my case it works, but i agree it sucks. When i see two A10 4km from me in different directions i basically know i`m fu*ked.

    • @mmneaapro596
      @mmneaapro596 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mateuszsa7 the thing is, you don't,
      you have 2 options, don't engage, or outrun them
      pretty much what you would do against su-25, A10 and Harrier

  • @britishmilitary4life1
    @britishmilitary4life1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First

  • @flyingfinn8275
    @flyingfinn8275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No views in 30 seconds this guy fell of