As someone who has watched pro rocket league since the beginning and just been here to see everything I’m just so happy your still around kicking it man you’re one of the goats
If Oxygen should be moved up, SSG should to. SSG did better than all but the top 3 consistency wise throughout this split. The only time they played bad was quals 6 against OG who were basically peaking in their own way.
@@ultimategaming4265 the problem with that logic is that SSG is NA and Oxygen is EU. You cannot deny that top 4 EU is on average better than top 4 NA. So, saying that ssg has to move up if oxygen does doesn't make sense. Especially if you look at the oxygen vs. Gm8s head to head. If anything, gm8s should move down and oxygen move up, but you'd call me crazy after what they did in Copenhagen.
And SSG has taken G2 to 7 twice in playoffs as well as been more consistent than the 4 teams in the tier above them except for when they played OG in quals 6
@@ultimategaming4265 Difference is Oxg is EU which instantly makes them more likely to win then anyone in NA besides G2. When's the last time a NA 3rd or 4th seed actually did anything? internationally?
@@George-li1yv In theory yes. But at the same time, SSG is the only team to take G2 to 7 in playoffs. And considering only GenG and Gm8 have beat G2 in playoffs kind of hard not to have SSG high when they have gotten a better result than other teams playing them.
Overall solid list, Id' just move Oxygen behind Furia cause I think they are on a different level than OG and SSG. TS is an unknown that could bump up a tier but I'm not sure how they will perform internationally. I really want the Gen G vs TS to be the first stream match of Swiss cause I think that will be the most interesting round 1 match so we'll see what SAM #2 can bring to the major.
@@anc3stral. bro is tweaking beyond compare LMFAO, the bias against NA is insane these days no lie. Twisted is decent but simply will never beat OG in a lan format
@@anc3stral. they beat geng? Beat ssg? Do you not watch or something? All three of those players have won a LAN, that means a lot for their future performacne. Speaking of a minor region tell me the decent teams in mena besides falcons and twisted, oh wait, there’s none kiddo (can’t count ex rule one, they did absolutely horrendous this split)
@@robertlermusiaux7689 puahahahaha NA copium, bro last lan Og was orrendous like Rule 1, are u stupid? Twisted Minds can beat Falcons if in a good day, if bot team are in good state Twisted are better.
Oxg was a new team and were instantly even with kc. Now over a month pure practice later and they will have grown so strong, I can see them make top 2 no doubt
Think this is a pretty solid tierlist/rankings Gibbs! The only one I would switch is probably Oxygen and SSG. Looking forward to this major regardless!
Yeah the tier list is spot on. I mostly agree with you with switching places between SSG and Oxg, except maaaaybe swap with OG instead or just move Oxg above both
Why do y’all keep thinking Oxygen should be above SSG? SSG had overall one bad series against OG and that’s it. They did lose to Shopify but they had just beaten GenG. Overall SSG should really be above everyone but BDS, G2, and Falcons, results/consistency wise.
@@ultimategaming4265 It's not so much SSG being bad it's Oxg showing they are a world class team. They swept M8s 3-0 and M8s didn't score 1 goal. Remember M8s won Copenhagen. They swept and completely shut off the defending Major Champions. Also their performances against KC were second to BDS only
As far as G2 losing to GenG this split, they were a goal away from winning the last matchup in game 7 OT in grand finals regional 4 so I don't think that loss means much at all, they were evenly matched that day and we haven't seen them matched since because of GenG folding against the field.
Agreed. Plus, since then G2 has pulled away from the field and GenG has fallen into it. If G2 played GenG in either of those quarterfinals, with how lost GenG looked and how dominant G2 looked, I think G2 smokes them
That's not how it works. G2 were a game 7 OT goal away from losing to Vitality at the major, an OT goal away from being 4-1'd by Cloud9 in qual 5 and a game 7 goal away from losing to SSG in qual 4. You could also say GenG were an OT goal away from winning 4-2 in that qual 4 series. You can't discredit G2's losses for being close unless you also discredit their wins for the same reason as well. GenG were the better team that day, G2 have been the better team since.
@@Snapey81 G2 is has actually done way better against the field than GenG but GenG on the day can be as good as them which they were and the reason I dont like their last matchup is cause Dan I think missed an open net that would have just won them the game/series and they ended up lossing cause of it I dont expect that from them and looks like they only care about internation play they want to be better for that cause they know they basically will always be in the finals unless g2 vs geng ealier in the bracket and GenG looks hot that day
oxygen should be above ssg if not in the good shot tier; this team has been taking down european giants left and right. also have you not seen joyo on lan? man's a menace good list overall tho
you said thanks for the carry to me in a 3s game i just wanna say, i play so aggressive if it wasn’t for your defensive prowess we wouldn’t have won 💀 GIBBS IS A DEFENSIVE MASTERMIND
still crazy to me that KC didn't qual for London. I think a lot of people want to see Ferra and the KC team succeed but it'd also be so sick to see Vitality to win another lan/worlds
I want KC to win worlds even tho I support Falcons rn (because of the twins). If KC or Falcons win worlds I will be happy because Vatira deserves a world title. Also I want to see a Falcons vs KC rematch. Still salty we lost to KC
Am I the only one that thinks falcons are overrated? This team has won every regional which is impressive but we know that mena is pretty much OCE level outside of falcons. They also went out 5-8th of the major. Still think their worse than vitality and gentle mates
Falcons is definitely it overrated. The last major they dominated vitality and beat kc In 5 and lost to them in a bo7 where rise and atow were peaking plus pwr barely made it to round 5 and falcons comfortably made whilst only losing to a peaking m8”s who won the whole thing
Imo falcons is too high I'd put them in good shot category, but putting them above vitality seems wrong, falcons looked good at last major but not good enough to be #3, they still placed top 8, I think they have a good case for 5, but putting them on the same tier as g2 and bds is wrong.
This guy is lost. At the last major falcons lost only to m8’s who won and kc in game 7 where rise and atow were peaking. And they also dominated against vitality and only dropped a game because of a pause.
That’s as accurate as it gets. And it’s a touch annoying cuz I’m not your biggest fan hahaha. But your reasoning, understanding of the current game, and delivery were all on point. Totally agree, sick job coach. Hey. Coach Gibbs? For funsies? You’re already terry Bradshaw.. you can do whatever you like! Wanna start a non for profit? 😂
7:42 im sorry but you just cant put G2 behind BDS, they beat them at the Major pretty convincingly and it didn’t even go to 7. That’s a notch on BDS and also Vitality
@@iTzzTriistxnat copenhagen BDS had a few chances to take G2 to game 7 or even win against them, I'd say its not "pretty convicingly", it was still close IMO, and BDS look much better at this regional than last regional (only losing to a mad peaking gridserve resolve) at this point we're splitting hairs and discussion is kind of pointless, we just gotta wait for london and see
7:44 why do you only say that for G2? In that case let’s look at what happened to BDS at the major. Their Swiss was almost as bad, and they lost to G2 4-2. Then they go back to EU and you say “there’s more competition” KC didn’t make one split and got 2x top 8 M8, OXG, Vita all didn’t even qual straight away in the top 32 double elim bracket… NA had a better showing in the last split compared to EU especially the last QUAL. I think people are scared to upset EU fans so they just suck up to them and give them what they want to hear which is kind of unfair. Everytime I hear the reason for why G2 isn’t 1st at the moment, it’s a completely one sided example and no one ever wants to say the same for the other teams in question. If you could use the same argument for both teams then the argument is cancelled out. After doing that G2 will end up having more reasons to be #1 But no ones ready for that so I just hope G2 comes out fully ready and proves everyone wrong.
My guy, the reason you cant put an NA team at number 1, is because the last 4 RLCS LANs have been won by EU and even the one before that was won by gen g which had 2 EU imports. You cant start putting NA at 1 seed untill they at least win a LAN, which G2 could very well do this major
And of course, you being a huge G2 fan has nothing to do with it. BDS were stronger in Swiss, the only team they lost to were M8s (who beat everyone that event), other than that they went 9-1 in games. The fact that KC, the hands down #1 team in the world going into major 1, finished so poorly in the last split shows exactly how much more competitive EU is, which I don't think is in doubt. NA didn't have a better showing in the last split, G2 did and that was mainly due to the lack of competition, hence why people are so reluctant to put them as #1. G2 may well go on to win the major at which point they are the undisputed #1 team in the world, but my God their fanbase are annoying with their desperate need for everyone to think their team is the best when hardly anyone outside of their fanbase thinks so. There are arguments to be made for G2, Falcons and BDS to be #1 but it's strange how little I see from the other fans when someone doesn't think their team is the best.
Hmmm that's incorrect: S tier: Falcons, Gm8 (cus this is lan...), G2 (as an EU fan: pls G2/Geng or Falcons win...), Vitality A: Bds (i don't give a shit about online competition, on lan they feel pressure), Geng (shaky, but in lan they are great), Oxygen (i think Gibbs take something before this tier...wtf putting them behind Space and Og, if they play well they can win the event licterally), Furia (pls don't choke in top 8 arigatou) B: Spacestation (really solid and great lan guys), Twisted Minds (they are not Rule 1, this guys can almost beat anyone if in a good form) C:OG (meh) D: Pwr, Secret and Fake EU E: Trash.
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As someone who has watched pro rocket league since the beginning and just been here to see everything I’m just so happy your still around kicking it man you’re one of the goats
I feel like oxg should be moved up 1 spot
My only gripe was that oxygen wasn't higher.
Same
If Oxygen should be moved up, SSG should to. SSG did better than all but the top 3 consistency wise throughout this split. The only time they played bad was quals 6 against OG who were basically peaking in their own way.
@@ultimategaming4265 the problem with that logic is that SSG is NA and Oxygen is EU. You cannot deny that top 4 EU is on average better than top 4 NA. So, saying that ssg has to move up if oxygen does doesn't make sense. Especially if you look at the oxygen vs. Gm8s head to head. If anything, gm8s should move down and oxygen move up, but you'd call me crazy after what they did in Copenhagen.
@@Drrobverjonesonly Oxg up, Gm8 are lan guys chill for me they are S, Bds if Monkey don't play Fennec are S, but A is a safer bet.
Falcons+London=MAGIC
youre currently as correct as you can be
oxg have beaten g8 last like 3 times, they are not clear 4th
And SSG has taken G2 to 7 twice in playoffs as well as been more consistent than the 4 teams in the tier above them except for when they played OG in quals 6
That's very fair!
@@ultimategaming4265 Difference is Oxg is EU which instantly makes them more likely to win then anyone in NA besides G2. When's the last time a NA 3rd or 4th seed actually did anything? internationally?
@@George-li1yv😮
@@George-li1yv In theory yes. But at the same time, SSG is the only team to take G2 to 7 in playoffs. And considering only GenG and Gm8 have beat G2 in playoffs kind of hard not to have SSG high when they have gotten a better result than other teams playing them.
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Overall solid list, Id' just move Oxygen behind Furia cause I think they are on a different level than OG and SSG. TS is an unknown that could bump up a tier but I'm not sure how they will perform internationally. I really want the Gen G vs TS to be the first stream match of Swiss cause I think that will be the most interesting round 1 match so we'll see what SAM #2 can bring to the major.
W list overall, I would only move Team secret 1 tier up and oxygen.
Twisted are better than Og trust me.
@@anc3stral. bro is tweaking beyond compare LMFAO, the bias against NA is insane these days no lie. Twisted is decent but simply will never beat OG in a lan format
@@robertlermusiaux7689 bias...minor region with only 2 good team and one solid (SSG), Og are bad sincerely just wait
@@anc3stral. they beat geng? Beat ssg? Do you not watch or something? All three of those players have won a LAN, that means a lot for their future performacne. Speaking of a minor region tell me the decent teams in mena besides falcons and twisted, oh wait, there’s none kiddo (can’t count ex rule one, they did absolutely horrendous this split)
@@robertlermusiaux7689 puahahahaha NA copium, bro last lan Og was orrendous like Rule 1, are u stupid? Twisted Minds can beat Falcons if in a good day, if bot team are in good state Twisted are better.
I might move vitality up to favorites but this list more or less seems solid
Oxg was a new team and were instantly even with kc. Now over a month pure practice later and they will have grown so strong, I can see them make top 2 no doubt
Oxygen might not even make top 8 bro. Your overrating them like crazy
I don't think no doubt. I could see them making top 8 or top 4 but top 2 is pushing it
Tbf when they beat KC Vatira was kinda throwing. When KC was playing well Oxg got smothered
Think this is a pretty solid tierlist/rankings Gibbs! The only one I would switch is probably Oxygen and SSG.
Looking forward to this major regardless!
Yeah the tier list is spot on. I mostly agree with you with switching places between SSG and Oxg, except maaaaybe swap with OG instead or just move Oxg above both
Why do y’all keep thinking Oxygen should be above SSG? SSG had overall one bad series against OG and that’s it. They did lose to Shopify but they had just beaten GenG. Overall SSG should really be above everyone but BDS, G2, and Falcons, results/consistency wise.
@@ultimategaming4265they play Na... Oxg rn have a higher ceiling and probably a better floor too, sign this message: Twisted Minds vs SSG/OG= boom
@@ultimategaming4265 It's not so much SSG being bad it's Oxg showing they are a world class team. They swept M8s 3-0 and M8s didn't score 1 goal. Remember M8s won Copenhagen. They swept and completely shut off the defending Major Champions. Also their performances against KC were second to BDS only
I concur, you have my blessing, papa gibba
As far as G2 losing to GenG this split, they were a goal away from winning the last matchup in game 7 OT in grand finals regional 4 so I don't think that loss means much at all, they were evenly matched that day and we haven't seen them matched since because of GenG folding against the field.
Agreed. Plus, since then G2 has pulled away from the field and GenG has fallen into it. If G2 played GenG in either of those quarterfinals, with how lost GenG looked and how dominant G2 looked, I think G2 smokes them
@@GoldudeMK Hot take: GenG don't make top 8
That's not how it works. G2 were a game 7 OT goal away from losing to Vitality at the major, an OT goal away from being 4-1'd by Cloud9 in qual 5 and a game 7 goal away from losing to SSG in qual 4. You could also say GenG were an OT goal away from winning 4-2 in that qual 4 series. You can't discredit G2's losses for being close unless you also discredit their wins for the same reason as well. GenG were the better team that day, G2 have been the better team since.
@@Snapey81 G2 is has actually done way better against the field than GenG but GenG on the day can be as good as them which they were and the reason I dont like their last matchup is cause Dan I think missed an open net that would have just won them the game/series and they ended up lossing cause of it I dont expect that from them and looks like they only care about internation play they want to be better for that cause they know they basically will always be in the finals unless g2 vs geng ealier in the bracket and GenG looks hot that day
Its mostly just splitting hairs between the top 3. That was the hair I split. XD
oxygen should be above ssg if not in the good shot tier; this team has been taking down european giants left and right. also have you not seen joyo on lan? man's a menace
good list overall tho
LAN Joyo is different
If you wanna see more gameplay of PWR, you could watch their showmatch against Gridserve Resolve from yesterday's First Touch stream! 👍
Top 8:
Vitality
G2
Bds
Falcons
Furia
Oxg
Gen g
M8
Top 9-12:
SSG
twisted mindes
team secret
OG
you said thanks for the carry to me in a 3s game i just wanna say, i play so aggressive if it wasn’t for your defensive prowess we wouldn’t have won 💀 GIBBS IS A DEFENSIVE MASTERMIND
I played 3s with Gibbs, he's dogwater!
@@thepokemonpowerhouse5562 you are just bad!
I hope I get to meet the casters at london :)
Ideal top 8 is top 2 rows + oxygen
That's my top 8
im actually stoked to hop on twitter after g2 lose in the quarters this time round. No mickey bracket this time g2
Hang on how is GenG higher rank than oxygen GenG had a terrible run during major 2 ?
Johnny boi is throwing a fit bout oxygen being below SSG rn
aside from Falcons being "favorites" and oxygen being slightly low this is a good list
please allow them to be the favorites.
They can't win without ur permission.
W list honestly
Vitality not in favorites when Gentlemates won last LAN is crazy
bro has a nice ass aesthetic house
What day does the major start?
I think Thursday the 20th
Oxygen has all the tools to win major...they have good shot imo
still crazy to me that KC didn't qual for London. I think a lot of people want to see Ferra and the KC team succeed but it'd also be so sick to see Vitality to win another lan/worlds
I want KC to win worlds even tho I support Falcons rn (because of the twins). If KC or Falcons win worlds I will be happy because Vatira deserves a world title. Also I want to see a Falcons vs KC rematch. Still salty we lost to KC
Oxygen is definitely closer to geng than SSG
Am I the only one that thinks falcons are overrated? This team has won every regional which is impressive but we know that mena is pretty much OCE level outside of falcons. They also went out 5-8th of the major. Still think their worse than vitality and gentle mates
Falcons is definitely it overrated. The last major they dominated vitality and beat kc In 5 and lost to them in a bo7 where rise and atow were peaking plus pwr barely made it to round 5 and falcons comfortably made whilst only losing to a peaking m8”s who won the whole thing
@@aishahassan3744 that’s why I said outside of falcons if you read my comment
@@lyric1062 Twisted Minds is better than OCE will be in the next 2 years
Mena is a stronger region than oce
Imo falcons is too high I'd put them in good shot category, but putting them above vitality seems wrong, falcons looked good at last major but not good enough to be #3, they still placed top 8, I think they have a good case for 5, but putting them on the same tier as g2 and bds is wrong.
I love furias playstyle but I fear their inconsistencies will plague them. Overall though good list 👍
This guy is lost. At the last major falcons lost only to m8’s who won and kc in game 7 where rise and atow were peaking. And they also dominated against vitality and only dropped a game because of a pause.
@@aishahassan3744 I hope falcons play as good as you think, however I place them as having a good shot but not favorites.
@@aishahassan3744 Also they beat KC in swiss
Ssg above oxigen haha, lemme laugh. Replace oxg with ssg and bds with falcons and we have a tier list
That’s as accurate as it gets. And it’s a touch annoying cuz I’m not your biggest fan hahaha. But your reasoning, understanding of the current game, and delivery were all on point. Totally agree, sick job coach. Hey. Coach Gibbs? For funsies? You’re already terry Bradshaw.. you can do whatever you like! Wanna start a non for profit? 😂
7:42 im sorry but you just cant put G2 behind BDS, they beat them at the Major pretty convincingly and it didn’t even go to 7. That’s a notch on BDS and also Vitality
By that logic then Mates should be ahead of everyone as they won the last major.
Honestly I think this ranking is pretty accurate for the most part.
@@teebs90 doesn’t apply here because M8 didn’t even win a regional
@@iTzzTriistxnat copenhagen BDS had a few chances to take G2 to game 7 or even win against them, I'd say its not "pretty convicingly", it was still close IMO, and BDS look much better at this regional than last regional (only losing to a mad peaking gridserve resolve)
at this point we're splitting hairs and discussion is kind of pointless, we just gotta wait for london and see
@@iTzzTriistxn M8s didn't win a regional in the first split either
Full time daddy Gibbs 😂❤
7:44 why do you only say that for G2?
In that case let’s look at what happened to BDS at the major. Their Swiss was almost as bad, and they lost to G2 4-2. Then they go back to EU and you say “there’s more competition”
KC didn’t make one split and got 2x top 8
M8, OXG, Vita all didn’t even qual straight away in the top 32 double elim bracket… NA had a better showing in the last split compared to EU especially the last QUAL. I think people are scared to upset EU fans so they just suck up to them and give them what they want to hear which is kind of unfair.
Everytime I hear the reason for why G2 isn’t 1st at the moment, it’s a completely one sided example and no one ever wants to say the same for the other teams in question. If you could use the same argument for both teams then the argument is cancelled out. After doing that G2 will end up having more reasons to be #1
But no ones ready for that so I just hope G2 comes out fully ready and proves everyone wrong.
My guy, the reason you cant put an NA team at number 1, is because the last 4 RLCS LANs have been won by EU and even the one before that was won by gen g which had 2 EU imports. You cant start putting NA at 1 seed untill they at least win a LAN, which G2 could very well do this major
And of course, you being a huge G2 fan has nothing to do with it.
BDS were stronger in Swiss, the only team they lost to were M8s (who beat everyone that event), other than that they went 9-1 in games.
The fact that KC, the hands down #1 team in the world going into major 1, finished so poorly in the last split shows exactly how much more competitive EU is, which I don't think is in doubt. NA didn't have a better showing in the last split, G2 did and that was mainly due to the lack of competition, hence why people are so reluctant to put them as #1.
G2 may well go on to win the major at which point they are the undisputed #1 team in the world, but my God their fanbase are annoying with their desperate need for everyone to think their team is the best when hardly anyone outside of their fanbase thinks so. There are arguments to be made for G2, Falcons and BDS to be #1 but it's strange how little I see from the other fans when someone doesn't think their team is the best.
Eu has won the previous 4 rlcs lans. Power ranking anybody other than Eu 1 as the #1 seed is pretty disingenuous.
G2 in 2nd place as per usual, Gibbs knows ball unfortunately
Another Gibbs W
Secret and Twisted Minds for me better than SSG and OG
I think you rated OXG properly, they’re very overrated in my opinion
All my homies hate mobula
Gen.G hasn't looked good as of late, I'd have Oxygen above them
My top 10:
1. Falcons
2. G2
3. BDS
4. Vitality
5. Furia
6. Oxygen
7. M8
8. GenG
9. SSG
10. T. Secret
My top 8:
1. Falcons
2. BDS
3. G2
4. Vitality
5. GenG
6. Oxygen
7. M8
8. Furia
Good lisy
Oxygen better then m8s
Hmmm that's incorrect:
S tier: Falcons,
Gm8 (cus this is lan...),
G2 (as an EU fan: pls G2/Geng or Falcons win...), Vitality
A: Bds (i don't give a shit about online competition, on lan they feel pressure), Geng (shaky, but in lan they are great),
Oxygen (i think Gibbs take something before this tier...wtf putting them behind Space and Og, if they play well they can win the event licterally),
Furia (pls don't choke in top 8 arigatou)
B: Spacestation (really solid and great lan guys), Twisted Minds (they are not Rule 1, this guys can almost beat anyone if in a good form)
C:OG (meh)
D: Pwr, Secret and Fake EU
E: Trash.
lmao its opinionated its not wrong its just not what u think, take a chill pill bud
Vitality should be on Favorites because they went back to back Lans, and Oxygen is over SSG
This guy meat riding geng I don’t get it. They have been playing terrible lately