“It’s me and Solar” i don’t know if that hit anyone else, but it hit me. We didn’t see Sun again in the simulation after that. Symbolic of him being set aside, doomed to be second place to Solar for ever. It hurt me as a person who’s been replaced before.
Yeah. I still remember when Nexus said that he "wasn't going to hide anything from him anymore." Bullsh%t. As someone who's felt what it was like to be the backup friend, I really wanted to hug him that that current moment. Honestly, good thing Nexus went insane. Sun would've been happier because he got his true brother back.
Okay first off; Poor Solar... He sounded so depressed near the end. :( Secondly, I hate the idea of this AU because in all honesty? If Nexus wasn't evil, I get the feeling that he quite possibly would've gotten so close to Solar that Sun would basically be non-existent to him. Like, poor Sun would basically just be sidelined, and I hate the thought of that.
NEXUS!? NOT EVIL!? NOW THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING Solar sounds so upset near the end of the episode... I feel so bad for him.. He either truly misses Nexus, or he just is upset because he sees Nexus as his Moon now :
yeah but the first part of it is it’s solar doesn’t seem to realise that as much as he truly wanted that not to happen he fails to realise that sun was constantly being pushed to the side which wasn’t fair on him
Madye he realize that now suns always has brothers backs .I think in part nexus might been right but sun grew to care adout nexus to I can't imagine how munch that conversation hurt.
This whole AU is cool and all but what im upset about is how Sun was just pushed to the sidelines by Nexus and Solar. I don't really see anybody talking abt how before Solar's death, Nexus was just pushing Sun away to the side in favor of Solar instead and things would've continued in that direction, which makes me feel bad for Sun even more since i doubt he would've brought it up to anyone either and just let it happen
Thank you that’s what so many people seem to overlook so many people. Yes I would’ve liked this not happen but you like is everyone just ignoring the fact that son would’ve been continually pushed to the side? At least the original moon never did that he doesn’t do that.
Double edged sword it’s a lot less chaotic and less trauma but Nexus ends up getting so close to Solar he kinda forgets about Sun and we don’t get Old Moon. At least with Old Moon it gets balanced out and Solar Sun and him act more like a trio. Wish we could have gotten both Moons and the best of both worlds but alas I guess it’s not meant to be
Yeah it'll be a bit odd (voice acting wise) if they have to kill Nexus- something I would personally like, but I understand if it's weird narrative-wise,- is the merging you were talking about- Nexus' Memories with Old Moon's memories, because there's a lot both of them have missed from each other. I feel like Sun would benefit from both perspectives- Hopefully it happens I love Solar, but it does seem like every time he's in the picture Sun gets slowly pushed away just cuz he doesn't know tech Sorry for long reply 😅
9:20 “What do we do exactly? _You don’t do anything, Sun._ *This is me and Solar.* ” So in other words, if Nexus didn’t turn evil, they’d have just continued pushing Sun aside while Nexus and Solar spent all their time with each other. Before Solar’s death, Sun was getting more and more isolated because Nexus spent all his time with Solar to make inventions and other tech-related things, and barely even gave Sun a second thought. Sun already felt unhelpful/useless because his brothers were smart and kept excluding him because he wouldn’t understand what they’re doing, and that really wouldn’t have helped. I dare say that Sun would also be an easy target for anyone messing with the family, because he was almost _always_ by himself. Monty and Earth were always together, usually along with Lunar, and Nexus was always hanging out with Solar, so there was always more than one person if anything was to happen. If anything happened to Sun, he’d have been alone, and the others might not even realise right away because they barely spent any time with him.
Y'know, Sun has done so many good things for his family, but have they done anything like that for him? Maybe they have and I'm misremembering, but idk Sun needs a party thrown in his honor or something to show him how loved and cherished he is.
@@gachabox3142 As far as I’m aware, they’ve never really done anything like that. The most I can remember is Sun telling Moon that he’s not smart like him, and Moon reassuring him that he’s ’smart in other ways’ They’ve never really thanked him for the things he’s done, but they’re always quick to try to correct him if they think he’s doing something wrong - even if he’s not - it’s no wonder Sun has practically no self-worth half the time.
@@gachabox3142 I Mean; Moon DID Get Sun a New House for them, Lunar, Dazzle, Solar, & Jack to live in; and Moon let Sun talk about the Kids he took care of before that fateful day without interrupting and was listening the whole time; Moon REALLY has come a Long way since He sacrifised himself to Stop KC!!
Actually, they did something for Sun Moon comforted Sun about Dazzle and told him that he would be a better brother to Sun. And Earth said Sun was the first person she met. And Solar and Sun finally bonded together like Sun wanted, and Jack helped Sun too. So I believe this Moon might be a better Moon than Nexus. Doesn't anyone realize that? They are not pushing Sun away they just wanted to protect him. I mean, come on, it's not a duo anymore. Sun Moon and Solar are a Trio now trio oldest brothers. Also, Sun and Solar are finally bonding together. You know, like Sun wanted him and Solar to built up be friends.
If nexus didn't turn into his evil edgy teenager stage!?...... So to put it short they could of have a good life together actually took old moons advice very seriously...sadly that didn't happen but....That would of been nice.... least we got old moon back tho and gotten solar back also^^
Everyone forgot that if Nexus didn't turn evil. Well, everything would be fine yes, but Sun would continue to be put aside and would just be not important anymore. Because, at that point Nexus only cared more about Solar. Sun has a chance to change that now, so let's not ruin his chance to be put aside and he forgotten.
I would be quite nice, I think:) 9:21 oh I didn’t forget they left Sun out of everything- uuh. They’re protecting him I suppose 11:54 he sounds really scared actually 16:44 HAH MONTY 20:12 Solar sounds sad aw:( 20:46
So they throw Sun away like a trash and never showed him or mentioned through the whole vidoe.👍 That's why I truly believe that Sun deserves to be a villain.
No, they don't they love Sun Sun loves Solar and Moon he'll never be a villain. We already have dark sun. I'm glad Solar and Original Moon is back, so all that will never happen
@clownmeii I can tell but this just scared me I didn't want them to hurt Ruin like this he tried to warn them about the creators if only there can be a way to prove them wrong somehow. Also, now that we have original Moon and Solar back it be better. Because Solar got a new body now and he looks great. Also they never push Sun away they were just trying to protect him. No one realize that. I mean it's not the duo anymore Sun Moon and Solar are a Trio now trio oldest brothers.
I like these what ifs; it feel similar to the Marvel series What if.. But from the start, I already noticed that Nexus was pushing away Sun when they had moved Ruin to prison. But not only that, what are the chances that the creator dies and eventually helped. Though I'm kind of disappointed why it ended like that, in a cliffhanger kind of way. But never the less, there is always a butterfly affect, where Solar does die and Nexus becomes Nexus-that's something you can't stop in any way; that's how it goes. Solar at the end was indeed sad-how disappointed he was and how he couldn't have that ending instead. Because I have a feeling that he feels lonely at times; at least, that's what I get the feeling of, but that's properly me. But good episode; don't mind more of those kinds :3
Except that Solar wasn't looking for a timeline where Ruin never killed Solar specifically: he was looking for one where Nexus wasn't evil. That answer to that question is what drives the mini emotional arc of this episode.
This is basically suggesting that there are many variables that could have lead to Nexus going bad, not just Solar's death but the things that the creator goes on doing, something Andrew does because Stitchwraith is completely gone in this variation. His odds really weren't that good and it's sad knowing that
To be very honest, i didn't really care about Nexus, like- he wasn't near my fav characters but after his insane arc he became my like- 3rd fave character
I feel like nobody is seeing the big picture here if this hadn’t happened, he would he would’ve continue to push sun to the side and sun would never have learnt magic
I just noticed that the whole nexus neglecting sun hurts at lot more that it would seem . . . SO yk when bloodmoon and old moon were in suns head (like fake things of em) well one of suns insecurities is that moon never cared for him . . . thats what was happening here
What's Sun gonna think when/if he finds out the guy he spent a year of his life with and cherished after he lost his original brother never cared for him?
....they really want to break our hearts, huh...? 2:22 Of course that's where it starts... 3:18 "I will say your describing words make me REALLY WANNA PUNCH YOU MORE!" 4:38 "You don't understand! I'm trying TO SAVE YOU ALL!" "No you're not! You're trying to SATIATE your own PSYCHOTIC MENTALITY!" 5:15 "You were my family, I can admit that..." 11:51 "HAVE FUN IN JAIL CHUCKLE F*CK!" 13:21 "I blew em up!" "You gave them the good old 'Monty please'?" 14:23 Oop, Goliath would still exist 18:34 "There's no AI here." So Moon saw what Solar was doing, and instead of stopping him or getting mad....he pretending to be a computer AI and discreetly helped him by telling him how the machine works 19:42 "That probability is one in one hundred thousandth of a percent..." 20:34 "Every moon has it's dark side."
I honestly, in the end, Sun would've had a better mental state if Nexus went insane. Because if Nexus didn't, Sun would slowly start to get more and more ignored by the one person he loved, while Solar would start to take Sun's spot. It'd eventually turn into the Solar and Moon Show. I don't know which one would've hurt more. But what I do know is that Sun was able to recover after losing Nexus. He was completely destroyed, but he got his true brother back. The brother that he'd spent years living together with. Even though Sun had first emotionaly distanced himself from Moon, the two of them eventually rebuilt their relationship back to as close as they used to be. Sun even got a lot of his trauma healed too. And he's happy with him. The same can't be said if Nexus kept his sanity, though. Then Sun most likely would've been the one to snap. Edit: also uh- Moon: "I am sorry, Solar. Really, truly am. I guess I'm the one that gets to be happy." YOWCH THAT HURT
A reminder that before Nexus lost his mind he had a nightmare where apparently this same timeline happened Mixing the two vids would provide: Solar lives BloodMoon and Stichwraith die The creator dies and provides Goliath Sun dies protecting Lunar Lunar gets taken. (This is arguable since in Nexus' dream Ruin was in parts and service instead of the cell)
@@jensinclair5343 I understand why they'd lock him up like that, but I can't help but feel bad for him. No chances to talk to anyone, just into a cell, all alone. Let him talk to Earth because it's partly trauma-induced actions he attempted? Nah. I understand why people don't like Ruin but I also can see why he did what he did in the main dimension.
another What If video ! I love these , i just love 'What If' scenarios in general ( yes I've watched Marvel What If lol ) I'm guessing that would of been a good timeline if Nexus never turned evil but this would mean Moon would of never been brought back but on the plus side , Creator would of died and Goliath wouldn't have been evil I just wonder if they'd be able to defeat the Creator Council most likely , if they went by everything the Creator sent to them but wouldn't they still have Dark Sun to worry about ? and wouldn't this mean in this timeline if Solar didn't die then Sun would have ? Hmmm ... the ending though ;-; Solar sounded so sad and Moon apologizing/giving his condolences to Solar I hope Solar will be ok p.s : hope everyone in the comments is doing alright
IN MY OPINION: I really wouldn’t like this ‘what if’ neither, Sure Solar doesn’t die but the creators are still alive and Moon keeps pushing Sun away ‘accidentally’ so yeah,
This was nice, I like what we have, but taking a peek into what could've been, even with the extreme luck, was comforting almost. Nexus's arc has been a wild ride so it was nice seeing him not go off the deep end. I hope we get more of these.
The sheer number of coincidences and statistical anaomolys that wouldve had to happen to keep Nexus sane is boggling. There was no way it would ever work. Im so sorry Solar. I wonder if Solar sees this Moon as his now too, even if only a little, or if he hates this one too. I hope its the first.
I actually kind of hate that au. Because of Sun, he would just get pushed away and sidelined to the point it wouldn't even be The Sun and Moon show anymore, Just The Solar and Moon show. I hate that ALSO I LOVE OLD MOON😫😌
Oh my heart! 💜😭 Thank you so much SAMS for this episode. Love seeing this development over past family/friendships and new ones bonding. Its so sweet to see how Solar deep down still cares and is hurting over Nexus, and that simulation showed him Moon, his old friend that he use to know and it was all positive 🥰. However, I also love how this episode is also developing his new friendship that he is making with old Moon in his reality now. That was so so sweet of Moon to of said that at the end and run that simulation for Solar behind the scenes. As much as I sometimes wish some things were different, I am happy we have Nexus and Dark Sun as characters, I love this evil duo! And I am still staying hopeful for more development and twists between these characters in future episodes. Very grateful for this show 🥰 🧡💙 xxx
@@solidonseraindogthetenth1679 It really is, these most recent episodes are so painful to watch 😭... I just hope the creators do something really interesting with the plot x
@@Lovelesswolf Yeah. Like with Darth Vadar. He saves Luke then dies. I know it's heart wrentching, but I don't think having Darth Vadar live would make it better.
I really like these events that the shows do, and go back to so we can see a different outcome! Events like Solars Death and Bloodmoons first death are revisited for a new interesting outcome. *What if Sun didn’t Kill Bloodmoon?* or *What if Nexus didn't go insane?* are too examples of this. Im placings my bets on a *What if Nexus killed Earth* Video next! :)
I'm curious to know what was actually changed. I can think of so many different little details, whether or not Solar died, to what could have prevented Nexus going insane. Originally I thought it would be that something had happened to Solar's Creator, meaning that although Ruin's plan did work, it didn't effect Solar. But then Ruin became hostile and exclaimed how it should be working, implying that his machine didn't work or activate in general.
If Nexus wasn’t evil: The Nexus and Solar shippers wouldn’t get the ‘brothers’ reunite video and still ship them. Thank you SAMS for this new What If episode! Especially *this* interesting one
@@HarleyTips - YEAHHHHHHH!!! Me and my friend was talking about how the Solar X Nexus ship was now a bit disturbing now knowing that their brothers / see each other as brothers
That one episode a yr ago: Sun: we had a bit of a bad volume: Moon: there’s a lot of people in our lives *in the lowest quality voice possible* Sun: YES 👍
Well at least the simulation didn't end with death this time, and that is a pretty interesting outcome of Ruin's machine failed and Solar lived. And then the Creator dies out of nowhere for some reason, but thankfully redeems himself to create one more creation to help the entire Celestial family to fight against the Creator counsel. Like that last bit of the simulation I was not expecting, but glad that was a possible outcome, as well as Monty pulling the trigger and straight blows up BloodMoon X3 But then the down side would be that OG Moon wouldn't be here right now. So it's kind of a blessing and a curse at the same time, or a blessing in disguise. Also I felt bad for Solar, he sounded so distraught. I'm sorry about your brother, Solar. 😢
Near the end of the episode Solar Sounds so sad :( I felt so bad for him that he saw what a good life they would’ve gotten I think he misses nexus a lot or he is upset that he sees nexus as his moon or he thinks it’s his fault that he went crazy..😭 MY BABYYYY😭😭😭
oh boy, the very slim possibilites that would have to happen in order for this to happen is insane... like so many things would have to go right. However, the glaring issue is that Sun would be pushed to the side and I feel it wouldn't lead to anything good, I mean damn..he was only there in the beginning of the simulation. I feel so bad for Solar, he sounded so sad at the end there...
it's almost like a fanfic where everything went perfectly, except every perfect scenario always has its imperfections regardless,, on one hand, i love the writers for engaging with us to tell us WHY things went the way they did with these alternate scenarios, and it's refreshing to see what they think the logical outcomes would've been and why things could've been worse yet better yet irrevocably damaged- and on the other hand, i'm a big dumb baby who misses nice nexus XDDD my logical brain agrees, but my heart has many emotions about the situation anyway, XDDD im grateful for the peeks into AUs that we get, so we can relive some moments in a new way, while maintaining the timeline we have- like we get to have our cake and eat it too lmao
This timeline I feel like would actually be worse. The butterfly effect is a thing we don’t really want to happen. One, 5000 creators to still fight off. Some of the smartest minds in the universe. They probably could get like a few killed, but if the council found out they’d all forge together and take out the entire universe by possibly creating a wither storm or something in that dimension. That or even if they won, Sun being pushed to the sidelines would probably result in him becoming the Nexus of this universe. Dark Sun could pry into his mind better by relating to him. Saying how he knows how he feels as a Sun himself. We would have TWO Dark Suns. Honestly Ruin’s plan working was possibly a good outcome. Heck, we don’t even know what the other universes aside from Solar’s and a few others were like. Maybe they were suffering and Ruin gave them all a mercy kill? Whatever the reason, I am glad this reality doesn’t exist as much as it hurts Solar. So many worse things could have happened. Just like the blood dimension.
Idk why The fandom cares so much about Netflix,He chose to do what he did and If he didn't go insane we wouldn't get old moon back and let's be honest old moon has always been better than him
Watching this episode is when I realized that the feeling that Nexus was tearing away from Sun wasn't just a feeling his mentality of the entire time was "we will burn that bridge once we cross that" and that's why nothing will ever succeed for him because every single problem he creates on himself he just crosses the bridge and then he lights it on fire and goes "I wonder how I got here it must have been something that picked me up and moved me"
I think I know how the creator died time works differently with the Astros right they must’ve not seen moon go crazy in that timeline. He didn’t use a star Powell so they go to the creator and stop his shenanigan he does.
10:22 ruin, if you wanted to get rid of the creators without killing their dimensions and the so many other innocent lives were sparred you could've targeted the creators specific strands of dimensional code that was theirs specifically. We've seen it happen before when eclipse was killed in solars dimention with the satellite, I'm sure it could be possible to use a similar system for this, it would be finicky to do but I think it would be worth it to do it this way instead to avoid everyone else dying. You could've proposed a sort of deal where it involved you changing your device so it worked this way instead so it wouldn't kill everyone else who wasn't involved, then perhaps they might think about you being freed afterwards.
I know it was a simulation, but they were never, in any way, Ruin's family. I wouldn't even consider them friends. They constantly distanced themselves from him any chance they got. Took forever to even think about fixing him up. Talked about him behind his back, and didn't even invite him over for Christmas. The only one that did kind of check on him was Solar. And maybe all of this could have been avoided if they had paid him more attention. They could have tried to talk him out of it, and help him come up with a better way to stop the council. But instead he's shoved off to the side, and left alone with nothing but thoughts of revenge. So Ruin saying he ever was their family is complete bull crap. He should never say that, simulation or no simulation.
Everytime Ruin swears I always am shocked and laughing because it never really happens and when it does it's usually when he is very angry or knows he has gotten himself in alot of trouble
I didn't need my heart ripped out! And me to feel so numb it hurts! 😢 (I'm asking this question cause I need something to occupy me) Do you guys have anything to make solar better? I have a bunch of blankets. And if he wants a hug, I'll give it to him! (Edit Ty for the 👍❤)
Maaaaaan. Seeing new moon/pre-nexus being boisterous and having fun again was nice, an absolutely soul crushing what if going on here. Jumped at the sudden goliath appearance x"D also the hints that this reality was hinging on such impossibility/improbabilities was such a good touch, aaahhh 😭
It's like trading one problem for another, ultimately...😕 But if Solar doesn't die, in this AU, will Dazzle be discovered?🦌 Will the Old Moon return?💙 What happens to Dark Sun? Friend or foe? Too many questions but ultimately I like the original timeline more.😊 This is " Sun and Moon show" after all, not "Moon and Solar show"😅
Don't even start with this about a month after he became evil, y'all makin' me cry :') Solar, noooooo- NOT AGAINNNNNN 😭 3:53 & 4:00 That's kinda sussssssss... Okay I thought they was gonna show Solar's death scene again 😖💔..
So if Ruins machine just happened to not have worked, everything would have fallen into place for them All the main problems would have basically been solved "easily", they could've all been happy alive and together ...I can imagine the feelings Solars going through, pain maybe, regret or guilt even though he couldnt have stopped it, could even be anger at Moon (even though i feel like he'd know its unjustified)
Poor Solar.. He sounded so sad at the end. He really miss Nexus so much and wish he hadn't become evil...💔💔💔 Hopefully he'll get better about this in the future. 😔😔😔😔
Im saying this before I even get passed the intro, but this is possibly foreshadowing a future episode where nexus actually gets a grip on reality and is nice again?
Somehow I had a feeling this simulation would happen.. given all of the things that has happened thus far with Solar and Nexus, he probably couldn't help but wonder about this sort of thing. Interesting how it took Ruin's machine thing to not do what it was supposed to do to not only prevent Solar's death but prevent Nexus from becoming evil. A lot certainly happened in this simulation as a result, Ruin got to go to jail and eventually disappeared, Solar cracked the code phrase thing somehow by just pounding the keyboard, and then of all people.. the Creator comes in with the Goliath robot barely finished instead of Molten being barely finished. Giving a last message of all things to help stop the Creator council, now THAT I did not ever think would ever happen. This is a simulation though, and it was good of moon to show Solar this sort of situation even if he didn't ask him properly. Crazy how all that could have happened if Ruin's Machine didn't do what it was supposed to do..
Hm. yeah. uh....it really wasn't that impossible, the only change would have been "what if solar's creator was already dead before Ruin's thing went off" that's...that's the only change that'd be necessary for Solar to survive. big oversight there.
Aw don’t tell me solar wants to know:( No😭😭😭 EXCUSE ME THE CREATOR DIED?! WHY DIDNT HE DIE ANYWAYS 😭😭😭😭😭😭 Honestly I don’t like this anyway tho we prob wouldn’t have gotten old moon back and they probably would have left sun out a lot considering they just left him in the dust:(
I keep laughing at the comments that all say the exact same thing about Sun being pushed aside all starting with "No one's saying this but" and then scroll down to the next comment saying "I haven't seen anyone saying this but Sun would've been pushed aside more" It's just funny to me
“It’s me and Solar” i don’t know if that hit anyone else, but it hit me. We didn’t see Sun again in the simulation after that. Symbolic of him being set aside, doomed to be second place to Solar for ever. It hurt me as a person who’s been replaced before.
Yeah. I still remember when Nexus said that he "wasn't going to hide anything from him anymore." Bullsh%t. As someone who's felt what it was like to be the backup friend, I really wanted to hug him that that current moment. Honestly, good thing Nexus went insane. Sun would've been happier because he got his true brother back.
@@pakuvang4775 YOU GET IT
True.
I hate how even Nexus wasn't all "bad", he still gets to be a douche and ditch Sun out. I couldn't notice it the first time :(
Ikr😭😭😭😭
Okay first off; Poor Solar... He sounded so depressed near the end. :( Secondly, I hate the idea of this AU because in all honesty? If Nexus wasn't evil, I get the feeling that he quite possibly would've gotten so close to Solar that Sun would basically be non-existent to him. Like, poor Sun would basically just be sidelined, and I hate the thought of that.
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@@Sky-vt9cu :(
Yeah, and he would’ve continue to push sun to the side
@rainpuppy14 omg true
@@rainpuppy14 True. :(
"You gave 'em the good 'ole "Monty, Please!"?" 🤣 Moon, wut-
Old Eclipse laughed at that
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I laughed at that
NEXUS!? NOT EVIL!? NOW THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING
Solar sounds so upset near the end of the episode... I feel so bad for him.. He either truly misses Nexus, or he just is upset because he sees Nexus as his Moon now :
do you think there could be a dimension where solar didn't die and nexus never when crazy
yeah but the first part of it is it’s solar doesn’t seem to realise that as much as he truly wanted that not to happen he fails to realise that sun was constantly being pushed to the side which wasn’t fair on him
Madye he realize that now suns always has brothers backs .I think in part nexus might been right but sun grew to care adout nexus to I can't imagine how munch that conversation hurt.
Very very interesting….
Knowing that his death was the catalyst for Nexus had to have hurt!
This whole AU is cool and all but what im upset about is how Sun was just pushed to the sidelines by Nexus and Solar. I don't really see anybody talking abt how before Solar's death, Nexus was just pushing Sun away to the side in favor of Solar instead and things would've continued in that direction, which makes me feel bad for Sun even more since i doubt he would've brought it up to anyone either and just let it happen
Thank you that’s what so many people seem to overlook so many people. Yes I would’ve liked this not happen but you like is everyone just ignoring the fact that son would’ve been continually pushed to the side? At least the original moon never did that he doesn’t do that.
Double edged sword it’s a lot less chaotic and less trauma but Nexus ends up getting so close to Solar he kinda forgets about Sun and we don’t get Old Moon. At least with Old Moon it gets balanced out and Solar Sun and him act more like a trio. Wish we could have gotten both Moons and the best of both worlds but alas I guess it’s not meant to be
Yeah it'll be a bit odd (voice acting wise) if they have to kill Nexus- something I would personally like, but I understand if it's weird narrative-wise,- is the merging you were talking about- Nexus' Memories with Old Moon's memories, because there's a lot both of them have missed from each other. I feel like Sun would benefit from both perspectives-
Hopefully it happens
I love Solar, but it does seem like every time he's in the picture Sun gets slowly pushed away just cuz he doesn't know tech
Sorry for long reply 😅
I totally agree :)
Then, Sun would've became like Dark Sun, his villain arc..
“What is Nexus wasn’t evil” yeah what if Sun didn’t have trauma, it ain’t gonna happen
Nah -that’s so true tho-
Let me dream 😢
9:20 “What do we do exactly?
_You don’t do anything, Sun._
*This is me and Solar.* ”
So in other words, if Nexus didn’t turn evil, they’d have just continued pushing Sun aside while Nexus and Solar spent all their time with each other. Before Solar’s death, Sun was getting more and more isolated because Nexus spent all his time with Solar to make inventions and other tech-related things, and barely even gave Sun a second thought. Sun already felt unhelpful/useless because his brothers were smart and kept excluding him because he wouldn’t understand what they’re doing, and that really wouldn’t have helped.
I dare say that Sun would also be an easy target for anyone messing with the family, because he was almost _always_ by himself. Monty and Earth were always together, usually along with Lunar, and Nexus was always hanging out with Solar, so there was always more than one person if anything was to happen. If anything happened to Sun, he’d have been alone, and the others might not even realise right away because they barely spent any time with him.
That’s actually really sad 😭
Y'know, Sun has done so many good things for his family, but have they done anything like that for him? Maybe they have and I'm misremembering, but idk
Sun needs a party thrown in his honor or something to show him how loved and cherished he is.
@@gachabox3142 As far as I’m aware, they’ve never really done anything like that. The most I can remember is Sun telling Moon that he’s not smart like him, and Moon reassuring him that he’s ’smart in other ways’
They’ve never really thanked him for the things he’s done, but they’re always quick to try to correct him if they think he’s doing something wrong - even if he’s not - it’s no wonder Sun has practically no self-worth half the time.
@@gachabox3142 I Mean; Moon DID Get Sun a New House for them, Lunar, Dazzle, Solar, & Jack to live in; and Moon let Sun talk about the Kids he took care of before that fateful day without interrupting and was listening the whole time;
Moon REALLY has come a Long way since He sacrifised himself to Stop KC!!
Actually, they did something for Sun Moon comforted Sun about Dazzle and told him that he would be a better brother to Sun. And Earth said Sun was the first person she met.
And Solar and Sun finally bonded together like Sun wanted, and Jack helped Sun too.
So I believe this Moon might be a better Moon than Nexus.
Doesn't anyone realize that? They are not pushing Sun away they just wanted to protect him.
I mean, come on, it's not a duo anymore. Sun Moon and Solar are a Trio now trio oldest brothers.
Also, Sun and Solar are finally bonding together. You know, like Sun wanted him and Solar to built up be friends.
If nexus didn't turn into his evil edgy teenager stage!?......
So to put it short they could of have a good life together actually took old moons advice very seriously...sadly that didn't happen but....That would of been nice.... least we got old moon back tho and gotten solar back also^^
no, we forgetting that if this hadn’t happened, sun would’ve been continued to be push to the side
Yeh..that could happen to sun dont know what's worst honestly sun not having a relaxing vecation or sun being push by the side lines🤔
@@Chrissercombe not to mention he wouldn’t have learnt magic
Earth and lunar love his little goose magic:🪿🥺
Nexus took Moons advice but WAY too literally
Everyone forgot that if Nexus didn't turn evil.
Well, everything would be fine yes, but Sun would continue to be put aside and would just be not important anymore. Because, at that point Nexus only cared more about Solar.
Sun has a chance to change that now, so let's not ruin his chance to be put aside and he forgotten.
1:34 :(
1:50 "my death" he says it so casually but his voice also sounds too exhausted
yeah, but aren’t we forgetting that if this hadn’t happened sun would continue to be pushed to the side
MY POOR BABY😭😭😭😭😭
09:25 THEY LITERALLY THROW AWAY AND LEFT SUN LIKE A TRASH..POOR SUN😭😭😭😭
yeah, that’s what everyone seems to forget. Yeah he would’ve been not insane, but he would’ve continued to push sun to the side in favour of solar
JUSTICE FOR SUN 😭💀
as much as we didn’t want it, nexus had to be crazy or else moon would not have come back and sun would’ve continued to be pushed to the side
@@rainpuppy14 exactly, but it's still upsetting yk
@@rainpuppy14 lol
I would be quite nice, I think:)
9:21 oh I didn’t forget they left Sun out of everything- uuh. They’re protecting him I suppose
11:54 he sounds really scared actually
16:44 HAH MONTY
20:12 Solar sounds sad aw:(
20:46
So they throw Sun away like a trash and never showed him or mentioned through the whole vidoe.👍
That's why I truly believe that Sun deserves to be a villain.
Dark Sun takes that sweet spot for me lol
But yeah I'm honestly glad that old moon is back
No, they don't they love Sun
Sun loves Solar and Moon he'll never be a villain. We already have dark sun.
I'm glad Solar and Original Moon is back, so all that will never happen
@@abrialwoodford6712 friend it's an simulation.
@clownmeii I can tell but this just scared me I didn't want them to hurt Ruin like this he tried to warn them about the creators if only there can be a way to prove them wrong somehow.
Also, now that we have original Moon and Solar back it be better. Because Solar got a new body now and he looks great.
Also they never push Sun away they were just trying to protect him.
No one realize that.
I mean it's not the duo anymore Sun Moon and Solar are a Trio now trio oldest brothers.
FRRR SCREW NEXUS!! NEXUS HAD NO SPACE TO BE THE VILLIAN BUT SUN DID
9:20 Wow that was rude, poor Sun!
17:53 "Whatever guys lift with your legs 😁"
11:12 solars reaction is my fav part of this whole vid 😊😂
I like these what ifs; it feel similar to the Marvel series What if..
But from the start, I already noticed that Nexus was pushing away Sun when they had moved Ruin to prison. But not only that, what are the chances that the creator dies and eventually helped.
Though I'm kind of disappointed why it ended like that, in a cliffhanger kind of way.
But never the less, there is always a butterfly affect, where Solar does die and Nexus becomes Nexus-that's something you can't stop in any way; that's how it goes.
Solar at the end was indeed sad-how disappointed he was and how he couldn't have that ending instead. Because I have a feeling that he feels lonely at times; at least, that's what I get the feeling of, but that's properly me.
But good episode; don't mind more of those kinds :3
12:00 you know it’s serious when ruin went to being silly then starts to sound really scared 😳 ❤
Poor Solar. He probably still feels a lot of guilt for Nexus snapping but it’s not his fault.
I feel like this should be retitled as, What if Ruin never killed Solar, we've already had, What if Solar wasn't dead.
you mean ruin
Eclipse didn't kill Solar. Ruin did.
@@Bonniethebunny to be honest Eclipse did
Ruin Eclipse
I'd say "What If Ruin Never Succeeded".
Except that Solar wasn't looking for a timeline where Ruin never killed Solar specifically: he was looking for one where Nexus wasn't evil. That answer to that question is what drives the mini emotional arc of this episode.
2:57 In the simulation, Sun isn't there. Sun was present at the time that Ruin broken in!
He is you just can't see him
@@rainpuppy14 ah yeah that would make sense for the camera angle lol.
This is basically suggesting that there are many variables that could have lead to Nexus going bad, not just Solar's death but the things that the creator goes on doing, something Andrew does because Stitchwraith is completely gone in this variation. His odds really weren't that good and it's sad knowing that
To be very honest, i didn't really care about Nexus, like- he wasn't near my fav characters but after his insane arc he became my like- 3rd fave character
am i the only one that feels weird with seeing a nice nexus and i know this is a what if
I personally like nexus, I just think that there is better villians that I like more:>
My bestie is freaking obsessed with him and Solar without even knowing either🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@drunkdoggo8841 i know right (It's Bloodmoon frfr)
I feel like nobody is seeing the big picture here if this hadn’t happened, he would he would’ve continue to push sun to the side and sun would never have learnt magic
True,J saw the big picture though as well
I just noticed that the whole nexus neglecting sun hurts at lot more that it would seem . . .
SO yk when bloodmoon and old moon were in suns head (like fake things of em) well one of suns insecurities is that moon never cared for him . . . thats what was happening here
What's Sun gonna think when/if he finds out the guy he spent a year of his life with and cherished after he lost his original brother never cared for him?
If Nexus wasn't evil, maybe he'll be a decent member of the family or he could be best friends with Sun, Moon, Solar, Earth, and Lunar.
i like today's thumbnail
Yep but sun would be pushed away even more
@@moonrizer-qb5do Me too!
@@SkittleShark27 Oh dear.😬
@@SkittleShark27 Yeah
So... Everyone would have a good ending except for Sun... Man. He cannot be happy can he..
....they really want to break our hearts, huh...?
2:22
Of course that's where it starts...
3:18
"I will say your describing words make me REALLY WANNA PUNCH YOU MORE!"
4:38
"You don't understand! I'm trying TO SAVE YOU ALL!"
"No you're not! You're trying to SATIATE your own PSYCHOTIC MENTALITY!"
5:15
"You were my family, I can admit that..."
11:51
"HAVE FUN IN JAIL CHUCKLE F*CK!"
13:21
"I blew em up!"
"You gave them the good old 'Monty please'?"
14:23
Oop, Goliath would still exist
18:34
"There's no AI here."
So Moon saw what Solar was doing, and instead of stopping him or getting mad....he pretending to be a computer AI and discreetly helped him by telling him how the machine works
19:42
"That probability is one in one hundred thousandth of a percent..."
20:34
"Every moon has it's dark side."
Poor Solar... he misses Nexus 😢
And Sun was forgotten...
I honestly, in the end, Sun would've had a better mental state if Nexus went insane.
Because if Nexus didn't, Sun would slowly start to get more and more ignored by the one person he loved, while Solar would start to take Sun's spot. It'd eventually turn into the Solar and Moon Show.
I don't know which one would've hurt more.
But what I do know is that Sun was able to recover after losing Nexus. He was completely destroyed, but he got his true brother back. The brother that he'd spent years living together with. Even though Sun had first emotionaly distanced himself from Moon, the two of them eventually rebuilt their relationship back to as close as they used to be. Sun even got a lot of his trauma healed too. And he's happy with him.
The same can't be said if Nexus kept his sanity, though. Then Sun most likely would've been the one to snap.
Edit: also uh-
Moon: "I am sorry, Solar. Really, truly am. I guess I'm the one that gets to be happy."
YOWCH THAT HURT
9:32 the way they just left Sun😭
A reminder that before Nexus lost his mind he had a nightmare where apparently this same timeline happened
Mixing the two vids would provide:
Solar lives
BloodMoon and Stichwraith die
The creator dies and provides Goliath
Sun dies protecting Lunar
Lunar gets taken.
(This is arguable since in Nexus' dream Ruin was in parts and service instead of the cell)
*of course* there’s a nice nexus world-
(Pro) *BUT* everything would be SO MUCH LESS CHAOTIC
(Con) *but* we wouldn’t be able to make fun of him
True
Yeah, and I guess another con for anyone who likes Ruin too-
@@CraynsLookYummy yep
@@jensinclair5343 I understand why they'd lock him up like that, but I can't help but feel bad for him. No chances to talk to anyone, just into a cell, all alone. Let him talk to Earth because it's partly trauma-induced actions he attempted? Nah. I understand why people don't like Ruin but I also can see why he did what he did in the main dimension.
@@CraynsLookYummy mhm
another What If video !
I love these , i just love 'What If' scenarios in general
( yes I've watched Marvel What If lol )
I'm guessing that would of been a good timeline if Nexus never turned evil
but this would mean Moon would of never been brought back
but on the plus side , Creator would of died and Goliath wouldn't have been evil
I just wonder if they'd be able to defeat the Creator Council
most likely , if they went by everything the Creator sent to them
but wouldn't they still have Dark Sun to worry about ?
and wouldn't this mean in this timeline if Solar didn't die then Sun would have ?
Hmmm ...
the ending though ;-;
Solar sounded so sad and Moon apologizing/giving his condolences to Solar
I hope Solar will be ok
p.s : hope everyone in the comments is doing alright
You also forgot to mention that sun would’ve constantly been pushed to the side
THEY PULLED THE "WHAT IF" CARD-
AGAIN 👀
@@Sky-vt9cu YEP
AGAIN GRRR
@@solar_astral YES-
@@tiredcatmei also hii
IN MY OPINION: I really wouldn’t like this ‘what if’ neither, Sure Solar doesn’t die but the creators are still alive and Moon keeps pushing Sun away ‘accidentally’ so yeah,
This was nice, I like what we have, but taking a peek into what could've been, even with the extreme luck, was comforting almost. Nexus's arc has been a wild ride so it was nice seeing him not go off the deep end. I hope we get more of these.
The sheer number of coincidences and statistical anaomolys that wouldve had to happen to keep Nexus sane is boggling. There was no way it would ever work. Im so sorry Solar.
I wonder if Solar sees this Moon as his now too, even if only a little, or if he hates this one too. I hope its the first.
Sun and Moon Show, cool content keep it up bro
I actually kind of hate that au. Because of Sun, he would just get pushed away and sidelined to the point it wouldn't even be The Sun and Moon show anymore, Just The Solar and Moon show. I hate that
ALSO I LOVE OLD MOON😫😌
Oh my heart! 💜😭 Thank you so much SAMS for this episode. Love seeing this development over past family/friendships and new ones bonding.
Its so sweet to see how Solar deep down still cares and is hurting over Nexus, and that simulation showed him Moon, his old friend that he use to know and it was all positive 🥰. However, I also love how this episode is also developing his new friendship that he is making with old Moon in his reality now. That was so so sweet of Moon to of said that at the end and run that simulation for Solar behind the scenes.
As much as I sometimes wish some things were different, I am happy we have Nexus and Dark Sun as characters, I love this evil duo! And I am still staying hopeful for more development and twists between these characters in future episodes. Very grateful for this show 🥰 🧡💙 xxx
It's still sad Nexus is like his though.
@@solidonseraindogthetenth1679 It really is, these most recent episodes are so painful to watch 😭... I just hope the creators do something really interesting with the plot x
@@Lovelesswolf Yeah. Like with Darth Vadar. He saves Luke then dies. I know it's heart wrentching, but I don't think having Darth Vadar live would make it better.
Yay! WE NEED HIM TO BE A NICE PERSON
Yes he was my comfort character
"What If NEXUS WASN'T EVIL?!?!"
oh its probably Moon running it-
*"Solar's the one running the simulation."*
oh f-k.
I really like these events that the shows do, and go back to so we can see a different outcome! Events like Solars Death and Bloodmoons first death are revisited for a new interesting outcome. *What if Sun didn’t Kill Bloodmoon?* or *What if Nexus didn't go insane?* are too examples of this. Im placings my bets on a *What if Nexus killed Earth* Video next! :)
I'm curious to know what was actually changed. I can think of so many different little details, whether or not Solar died, to what could have prevented Nexus going insane. Originally I thought it would be that something had happened to Solar's Creator, meaning that although Ruin's plan did work, it didn't effect Solar. But then Ruin became hostile and exclaimed how it should be working, implying that his machine didn't work or activate in general.
If Nexus wasn’t evil: The Nexus and Solar shippers wouldn’t get the ‘brothers’ reunite video and still ship them.
Thank you SAMS for this new What If episode! Especially *this* interesting one
If Nexus wasn't evil: The RuinxSolar shippers would be really sad
@@HarleyTips - YEAHHHHHHH!!!
Me and my friend was talking about how the Solar X Nexus ship was now a bit disturbing now knowing that their brothers / see each other as brothers
@@HarleyTips LOL 😂
@@HarleyTips i would be devastated.
@@sunshine_has_rabies me too 😥
THEN EVERYTHING WOULD BE 5X LESS CHAOTIC-
FR
That one episode a yr ago:
Sun: we had a bit of a bad volume:
Moon: there’s a lot of people in our lives *in the lowest quality voice possible*
Sun: YES 👍
@@K4T_LUV3RI remember that :D
@@SOLAR_3DITZZ sun: YES 👍
Yes!!! 😀
Whyyyyy whyyyy WHYYYY HIM. PLUS SOLAR IS THE BEST
Nah solar ain’t the best
Well at least the simulation didn't end with death this time, and that is a pretty interesting outcome of Ruin's machine failed and Solar lived. And then the Creator dies out of nowhere for some reason, but thankfully redeems himself to create one more creation to help the entire Celestial family to fight against the Creator counsel. Like that last bit of the simulation I was not expecting, but glad that was a possible outcome, as well as Monty pulling the trigger and straight blows up BloodMoon X3 But then the down side would be that OG Moon wouldn't be here right now. So it's kind of a blessing and a curse at the same time, or a blessing in disguise.
Also I felt bad for Solar, he sounded so distraught. I'm sorry about your brother, Solar. 😢
Came out while i was finishing Laes 😭
Everything wouldnt be so terrible for solar tbh
Yeah but I think Nexus will just keep on pushing Sun away :(
Near the end of the episode Solar Sounds so sad :( I felt so bad for him that he saw what a good life they would’ve gotten I think he misses nexus a lot or he is upset that he sees nexus as his moon or he thinks it’s his fault that he went crazy..😭
MY BABYYYY😭😭😭
13:24 oh lunar is gonna hate that😂❤
oh boy, the very slim possibilites that would have to happen in order for this to happen is insane... like so many things would have to go right. However, the glaring issue is that Sun would be pushed to the side and I feel it wouldn't lead to anything good, I mean damn..he was only there in the beginning of the simulation.
I feel so bad for Solar, he sounded so sad at the end there...
12:40 oh my gosh! Imagine this this was a part of it. The whole storyline would be off-line crazy!🎉🤯
If Nexus wasn't evil than the original Moon wouldn't need to come back then.
yeah, but he would’ve continued to push Sun to the side
it's almost like a fanfic where everything went perfectly, except every perfect scenario always has its imperfections regardless,,
on one hand, i love the writers for engaging with us to tell us WHY things went the way they did with these alternate scenarios, and it's refreshing to see what they think the logical outcomes would've been and why things could've been worse yet better yet irrevocably damaged-
and on the other hand, i'm a big dumb baby who misses nice nexus XDDD my logical brain agrees, but my heart has many emotions about the situation anyway, XDDD
im grateful for the peeks into AUs that we get, so we can relive some moments in a new way, while maintaining the timeline we have- like we get to have our cake and eat it too lmao
13:20 MONTY PLE-
1:30 me just waiting for moon to walk in
2:10 no this again
3:30 so i am free to punch him - Moon 2024
This timeline I feel like would actually be worse. The butterfly effect is a thing we don’t really want to happen. One, 5000 creators to still fight off. Some of the smartest minds in the universe. They probably could get like a few killed, but if the council found out they’d all forge together and take out the entire universe by possibly creating a wither storm or something in that dimension. That or even if they won, Sun being pushed to the sidelines would probably result in him becoming the Nexus of this universe. Dark Sun could pry into his mind better by relating to him. Saying how he knows how he feels as a Sun himself. We would have TWO Dark Suns. Honestly Ruin’s plan working was possibly a good outcome. Heck, we don’t even know what the other universes aside from Solar’s and a few others were like. Maybe they were suffering and Ruin gave them all a mercy kill? Whatever the reason, I am glad this reality doesn’t exist as much as it hurts Solar. So many worse things could have happened. Just like the blood dimension.
I'M SORRY BUT THAT THUMBNAIL IS BEAUTIFUL😭
YOUR NOT WRONG
14:45 HE SOUNDS LIKE A PRINTER HELP
I'm glad Nexus turned evil. Sun really was getting sidelined in favor of the "Solar and New Moon Show".
Moon looking at solar and liking more solar makes me feel bad for sunny 👹👹👹👹🙏
I feel like solar feels like it’s his fault for what happened but it’s NOT❤
Idk why The fandom cares so much about Netflix,He chose to do what he did and If he didn't go insane we wouldn't get old moon back and let's be honest old moon has always been better than him
Honestly I Find Nexus more Interesting as a Villain than he ever was as Moon's Replacement!!
Watching this episode is when I realized that the feeling that Nexus was tearing away from Sun wasn't just a feeling his mentality of the entire time was "we will burn that bridge once we cross that" and that's why nothing will ever succeed for him because every single problem he creates on himself he just crosses the bridge and then he lights it on fire and goes "I wonder how I got here it must have been something that picked me up and moved me"
I think I know how the creator died time works differently with the Astros right they must’ve not seen moon go crazy in that timeline. He didn’t use a star Powell so they go to the creator and stop his shenanigan he does.
10:22 ruin, if you wanted to get rid of the creators without killing their dimensions and the so many other innocent lives were sparred you could've targeted the creators specific strands of dimensional code that was theirs specifically. We've seen it happen before when eclipse was killed in solars dimention with the satellite, I'm sure it could be possible to use a similar system for this, it would be finicky to do but I think it would be worth it to do it this way instead to avoid everyone else dying. You could've proposed a sort of deal where it involved you changing your device so it worked this way instead so it wouldn't kill everyone else who wasn't involved, then perhaps they might think about you being freed afterwards.
Well this is an interesting scenario
Solar getting closer to Nexus, but Sun being forgotten..slowly. it must hurt to see that
I know it was a simulation, but they were never, in any way, Ruin's family. I wouldn't even consider them friends. They constantly distanced themselves from him any chance they got. Took forever to even think about fixing him up. Talked about him behind his back, and didn't even invite him over for Christmas. The only one that did kind of check on him was Solar.
And maybe all of this could have been avoided if they had paid him more attention. They could have tried to talk him out of it, and help him come up with a better way to stop the council. But instead he's shoved off to the side, and left alone with nothing but thoughts of revenge. So Ruin saying he ever was their family is complete bull crap. He should never say that, simulation or no simulation.
Everytime Ruin swears I always am shocked and laughing because it never really happens and when it does it's usually when he is very angry or knows he has gotten himself in alot of trouble
I believe that Solar was upset because he probably realized how much both him and Nexus were pushing Sun away..
15:07 WHY DID SOLAR HAVE TO DIE EVERY THING WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT AND HOW DOSE SOLAR DYING CHANGE THIS😂❤
Anyone else notice that they didn't mention that they were pushing away sun at the end of the video? Did they not realize? 😮
I didn't need my heart ripped out! And me to feel so numb it hurts! 😢
(I'm asking this question cause I need something to occupy me)
Do you guys have anything to make solar better?
I have a bunch of blankets. And if he wants a hug, I'll give it to him!
(Edit Ty for the 👍❤)
Maaaaaan. Seeing new moon/pre-nexus being boisterous and having fun again was nice, an absolutely soul crushing what if going on here. Jumped at the sudden goliath appearance x"D also the hints that this reality was hinging on such impossibility/improbabilities was such a good touch, aaahhh 😭
Nexus being not eviL? That doesn’t exist in any dimension, any timeline, any existence-nexus is forever a ✨bish✨
2:18 WTF HAPPEND TO HIS EYE!!!!???
I'm crying. (I love Netflix sm)
NETFLIX 😭😭
Who is Netflix
@@Sofiabaljet30 it rhymes with nexus
@@kikostar._ I know
If only😭😭😔
I wish 🥺😮💨
It's like trading one problem for another, ultimately...😕
But if Solar doesn't die, in this AU, will Dazzle be discovered?🦌
Will the Old Moon return?💙
What happens to Dark Sun? Friend or foe?
Too many questions but ultimately I like the original timeline more.😊 This is " Sun and Moon show" after all, not "Moon and Solar show"😅
Don't even start with this about a month after he became evil, y'all makin' me cry :')
Solar, noooooo- NOT AGAINNNNNN 😭
3:53 & 4:00 That's kinda sussssssss...
Okay I thought they was gonna show Solar's death scene again 😖💔..
So if Ruins machine just happened to not have worked, everything would have fallen into place for them
All the main problems would have basically been solved "easily", they could've all been happy alive and together
...I can imagine the feelings Solars going through, pain maybe, regret or guilt even though he couldnt have stopped it, could even be anger at Moon (even though i feel like he'd know its unjustified)
Wait...did Nexus yelled at Sun to shut up?! Why is no one talking abt this?!
When!?
@@dearmeifeel... around 7:20
Tbh, the true timeline is better- sun becomes non existant in this one and Solar just becomes Nexus' lackey.
Poor Solar.. He sounded so sad at the end. He really miss Nexus so much and wish he hadn't become evil...💔💔💔 Hopefully he'll get better about this in the future. 😔😔😔😔
Im saying this before I even get passed the intro, but this is possibly foreshadowing a future episode where nexus actually gets a grip on reality and is nice again?
Hmmmm, I wonder if this would have led to that nightmare vision Nexus had, where the Creators took Lunar and killed Sun.
3:45 I love how frustrated he is❤
Somehow I had a feeling this simulation would happen.. given all of the things that has happened thus far with Solar and Nexus, he probably couldn't help but wonder about this sort of thing.
Interesting how it took Ruin's machine thing to not do what it was supposed to do to not only prevent Solar's death but prevent Nexus from becoming evil. A lot certainly happened in this simulation as a result, Ruin got to go to jail and eventually disappeared, Solar cracked the code phrase thing somehow by just pounding the keyboard, and then of all people.. the Creator comes in with the Goliath robot barely finished instead of Molten being barely finished. Giving a last message of all things to help stop the Creator council, now THAT I did not ever think would ever happen. This is a simulation though, and it was good of moon to show Solar this sort of situation even if he didn't ask him properly.
Crazy how all that could have happened if Ruin's Machine didn't do what it was supposed to do..
HINT OF REDEMPTION!? (probably not lol)
Hm. yeah. uh....it really wasn't that impossible, the only change would have been "what if solar's creator was already dead before Ruin's thing went off" that's...that's the only change that'd be necessary for Solar to survive. big oversight there.
16:49 monty please-
Him saying it wasn't ai and him helping that made my heart warm that was so sweet 😭
Aw don’t tell me solar wants to know:(
No😭😭😭
EXCUSE ME THE CREATOR DIED?! WHY DIDNT HE DIE ANYWAYS 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Honestly I don’t like this anyway tho we prob wouldn’t have gotten old moon back and they probably would have left sun out a lot considering they just left him in the dust:(
AKA : Every episode before the disownment episode
I keep laughing at the comments that all say the exact same thing about Sun being pushed aside all starting with "No one's saying this but" and then scroll down to the next comment saying "I haven't seen anyone saying this but Sun would've been pushed aside more" It's just funny to me