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Razer Wolverine Ultimate Controller Review!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- The Razer Wolverine Ultimate controller is awesommmeeee...but...
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i don't need a smart controller, i need a strong controller doesn't break
2021/01/13 update: for the past 2 years , i switched to pc with mouse and keyboard and so far nothing breaks ,,,, also because i wasn’t using my controller a lot it was able to survive.
note:after using xbox one controllers for the past 5 years,, i found out that the controllers with skins and AUX hole is way durable than the regular black xbox one controller ,,, the skin one’s 100% worth money, the regular one’s is trash and waste of money.
AkuTenshi
You need a mouse and a mechanical keyboard
Won't break, trust me
Or you just need to not throw it at a wall...
Tim Dev and cod
Then this is it
Elite is for you
My favourite controller ever! So good! Back buttons and the two extra buttons on top are perfectly placed.
Still going?
@@Brandon-dj9cq yeah, still have the same one from 3 years plus ago
@@Brandon-dj9cq there’s a new addition that looks great
@sam griffin Naaah it's too expensive, i saw a refurbished razer wolverine, might give it a try. I normally use a nacon revolution 2 for pc, but the razer seems kinda cool too
@sam griffin Im just concerned, cause there's a lot of review in youtube saying the controller having stick drift, dead motherboard, or something else
I've owned a elite and it just recently broke. Personally I'm probably going to buy it again because I like the paddle placement better than scuf and this controller, I don't like how there in the middle of the controller and not on the side where you would naturally place your fingers. A con I would like to mention to anyone at all that is going to buy a elite controller, the rubber grips eventually wear out and peel off and this will happen even quicker if you have sweaty hands such as myself. The grips had lasted me about 6-8 months and they started peeling at 6 and came off after 8. If you still want to get this controller like me, scuf is partnered with xbox and do sell replacement grips so if you want to use the elite controller grips and wait for them to wear out then buy the the scuf grips you can. Scuf also sells scuf styled paddles for the elite controller, it just replaces your battery pack cover I'll give some links for you guys to see if you'd like. I would like to mention that the grips wearing out is not a if you have sweaty hands its more of a when because no matter what it will eventually happen, when I originally bought my elite my friend had bought one the week prior to me and his grips are just know starting to peel so the time of how long they last can very depending on if you have sweaty palms, otherwise great controller. BTW the reason my controller broke was my fault as I do rage a lot and the controller had been thrown more than once(courtesy of Rainbow Six Siege hitboxes, love it when you see blood come out of their head and see them not take any damage) so anyone thats wondering about durability do not worry as it takes a lot to destroy.
Link to paddle replacements and grip replacements -----> scufgaming.com/s/scuf-elite/
thanks
What an actually good review that is also honest.
what an underrated comment
Can someone summarize that before I waste my time?
@@syntic30 grip broke after a while, use scuff grips
Those button presses hypnotized me so effectively I was yelling out my credit card number in public.
No batteries. No wonder its lighter 😒
RaMpArT 02 I like some weight better anyway
me too
The elite doesn't need batteries, if you play wired and it can use a play & charge kit. No batteries have ever touched my elite. The reason it's heavier, is because of the build quality. It's 100% metal! The Wolverine is just plastic...
ATLsF1N3ST91 it’s not even 75% metal lol
GamingAdict you have never held one in your hands, so you have no idea wtf you're talking about.
0:32 "Welcome to the *cult* of Razer"
Milos M me
I recently bought my first pair of Razor headphones for Christmas and so far I am loving razor
Adrian Juarez Razer**********
Rookie mistake 😂
*cult*
its very convenient that all within 3 days of ordering this, the grip on my elite started peeling up, a paddle broke, and the usb port at the front stopped working
Great video
Love extra bumper buttons plus the paddle buttons look a lot more out the way
Don't get why the controller being wired would be a deal breaker. I keep my controllers plugged in at all times as is, so I wouldn't notice a difference.
Matt DuGuay I know right. People shouldn’t complain and if you are gonna play on a level that you want a controller like this than you shouldn’t be playing on a couch.
I mean, after my 360 and ps3 constantly needing the controllers recharged every like 3 days i decided to go wired to avoid have the recharge/change battery message all the damn time.
Its a deal breaker for me. I use the controller wirelessly and i have rechargeable batteries i alternate out of a charging dock
Don't get how anyone can tolerate the lag of wireless peripherals. I get like 1 sec of input lag on a default ps4 controller, and like 1.5 secs on a standard xbox when using them wirelessly.
Matt DuGuay lollll 1.5 seconds? No you don't.
I'm intrigued. With those extra extra buttons on top, I can customize those buttons on Apex Legends so I don't have to take my thumbs off the analog sticks.
Yes you can do that all 6 buttons are remappble
Great review, thanks. I don't mind the wired aspect, I play fighting games where it helps also. I have an elite controller but has stick drift and at a cost of $100 to ship it off to a third party to repair I might as well pay the bit extra and buy one of these.
This is such a good controller its mind blowing. I've owned just about every elite controller you can think of and this one is by far the best.
BRUCELEEWATAHHH why is thi do you have examples ?
What’s better the tournament or ultimate I really need to know
Dylan Vlogz uLtamite defo
@@fallenlegend5332 ultimate is better, tournament is basically the same thing with a lot of the bells and whistles stripped out
The deal-breaker for me is that it doesn't come with any stickers.
It does in the box lol
randomfrankp I'm now getting it.
aluca haha you have jokes
lmao dafuq
and all the 8-year-olds start to cry! LOL
Great video and quality! I liked and subscribed
You have a very good clear voice and presenting style sir. Top notch review keep it up.
I just love how the the d-pad buttons are separated. Whenever I play with the original Xbox One Controller on my PC, I find that the buttons tend to malfunction sometimes. Especially in games like Rocket League where I use the d-pad a lot. Although I'm pretty sure that's just my controller getting old :p
I still don't why Sony has not improved their controllers. Xbox is on top right now when it comes to their controllers.
Edit 2 years later: So I am sorry for the ruckus I caused here lol. Just want to say I love PlayStation and their controllers design. I actually prefer the DS thumbstick layout but the Xbox Elite controller takes the cake for me. It is just better than a regular controller. Me personally DS > Xbox but Elite > all controllers
Samster Birdies who cares!!. I'd rather them replace or remove them if it means making it better. Cuz it's a completely horrendous design
Samster Birdies now ur talking out of ur ass. It's been said by countless TH-camrs, reviewers and not to mention 90% of average consumers that the Xbox has the best controller design. I have a ps4 and sold the original as soon as razor came out with the Xbox designed ps4 controller. Best purchase ever made
Samster Birdies. Xbox has a better controller, stop.
Samster Birdies. Like the other guy said 90% of TH-camrs and other people that do professional reviews say that the Xbox One contoller is better
OmI3t can you actually show me some data at least? you havent showed me anything other than "people say its good"
"Welcome to the cult of Razer"
Sounds about right
So with the M5 and M6 adjustments you could change them during the game right as you're running around have it more agile and then when you're ready to fire or fight have it more precise change back and forth as you go right
Wish you talked more about stick tension, that's the most important part to me.
Ya foreal
Yep I prefer more tension.
what deal damn holyy i'm pumped to get one.
David Ly dude i just bought one its fahking sick dude go buy one now if u havent
I use one every day. I love mine. Although I’m starting to wear out my LB since that is probably the button I use the most. I will probably buy another one when I have to.
Those your l stick still work with heavy use? No drift
Jack Ness I haven’t had any issues with the thumb sticks. But if that happens you can adjust stick drift in a game.
Are you having any problem with it or have you stopped using it lol... I’m thinking about getting one and I’m not sure yet...
Nice review 👍 Seeing as you have both controllers can you by change tell me if the “standard” Elite snap on sticks fit on the Wolverine, the thing that kept me from buying Razer in the past has been the lack of possibility to use KontrolFreeks with it, if the elite sticks indeed fit that would eliminate the problem :)
Have this controller and love it, wish the dpad was more like the default one though. That one tends to work a lot better with fighting games.
PS4: Ha you need batteries
Me: What batteries
Not funny
How does nobody mention in any review except this one just how amazing the ABXY buttons are on the ultimate. Those buttons are amazing and so much easier to press than any other controller's abxy buttons. Even the tournament edition buttons are not the same. If you are debating between the ultimate and the tournament edition from razer, the ABXY buttons are 10x better on the ultimate than the tournament edition.
Good review. I’ve gone through at least 5 Xbox One controllers(stick drift)and decided to try an elite. I always get a warranty. It lasted for a year before it started to get stick drift. I had the 360 controller for 5 years with no issues! The only thing Microsoft needed to improve was the d-pad on the 360 in my opinion. Meanwhile, my 11 year old son has had the same PS4 controllers and he’s rough on them. He plays fighting games and shooters. I’m gonna try my luck with a wolverine controller.
That light panel is awesome imo I really like that but no wireless is a killer. I actually wasn't expecting that at all, everything else on the controller seems so modern
Wireless = lag
I have had both controllers and i gotta say the razer is a lot better if you don’t care about wired. The elite has rubber grips that fall off after a while of extended use and the buttons eventually broke for me. The real deal maker for me was being able to lower and increase sensitivity on the fly with the razer during gameplay, if you play competitively and want to get the most out of a controller the razer is the way to go.
Wired= Lower lag input and Yes I can leave with that. Awesome review there!
No input lag
I've had both the Elite n' Ultimate, must say the Ultimate is the best controller I've ever owned. Plus the durability is top notch, your elite controller can technically break in seconds if you remove the cable from the charging port compared to the ultimate having a catch so the port won't be a issue in the future.(My elite's port broke the first time I removed the cable... ) Other than that the rubber on the palm grips will fall apart for every user pretty much... While with the Ultimate I haven't had a issue and I've had this controller longer at this point. Some other issues you may run into will be rubber coming off the joystick, the trigger sensors on the board deciding not to work practically bricking your controller
How do they actually manage the trigger stops?
On the Xbox One Elite controller the button is re-calibrated to the shorter trigger pull when you engage the stop.
Does Razer re-calibrate the trigger to 100% input value at the stop? Or are the stops limited to giving a 50% input value?
Dont even care about the controller now... Saw the eagles shirt and im sold! #Wentzylvania. But forreal, nice in depth review man! Glad someone takes the time to give an honest unbiased review.
Lemme spend $250 on my console that comes with a controller, and spend an additional $150 for a wired controller.
good plan, it'll really improve your experience
cause this controller is for the elites. Not for you people that enjoy wireless latency
Reus if you're and elite you're on PC
REMEBER THOUGH *it has RGB* xP
Latency when it comes to wireless peripherals have improved greatly over the years. Its not as much of an issue these days as it was say 10 years ago. The real issue with wireless peripherals these days is battery life. U don't wanna have your controller die on u during a tournament
How do you adjust the audio settings and volume with this? With the official MS headset adapter you have 5 buttons - 2 buttons for volume, 2 buttons to shift the balance between game sounds and voice/party chart, and a mute button. On this, as far as audio control buttons go, there's just a mute button and one other button with a speaker icon on it - what happens when you press that?
i was considering getting this, but when i heard it didnt have that satisfying weighted feeling, i immediately knew i’d stick with my elite controller
I have the tournament edition of this controller. Amazing controller, missing a few of these features, but other than that it is the same. The fact that the controller is wired is great in my opinion because wired controllers get less input delay, plus I don't have to worry about it dying. The cable is super strong, the design of said cable is flawless. I have owned mine for 14.5 months and I can still use minimum deadzones, despite having played with this thing and average of 6-7 hours a day. The only problem I have is that for the tournament edition at least, and someone who has had the ultimate for a while, let me know if you've experienced this too, but some buttons will start to give double inputs. This only started happening to me after 10 to 12 months of owning the controller though, so the only thing that would keep me from ever buying this controller again, is if Astrogaming started making controllers for the Xbox One.
Literally same problem with mine. The RB double clicks so if you face any problems with this expensive controller outside of the warranty period, ur basically screwed. Also their are barely any videos on how to take this thing apart and fix buttons
Can you put kontrol freaks on them?
Ya but not a good Idea. I tried and it messes up your dpi and is hard to contour to. Your choice tho!
I have the Raiju for PS4, Sabertooth, and Wildcat. Also have an Elite Controller. What I really like are the extra buttons on top. I hate pressing L3 for Sprint so I am always remapping one of those for Sprint. Sprinting being vital if you play Warframe or as a Hunter in Destiny and Destiny 2
No deal breaker at all for the wired connection. Even better actually because no lag. This controller is flawless. Especially with the lighting and the additional button layout.
10ft for the cable is the enough length for my living room
That’s pretty damn small then
@@deanbrown1645 ok bbc lover
Thanks to you, I ordered my Razer controller this morning. Thanks for going over everything, had no clue the controller was strictly wired but Im 100% okay with that, I prefer it honestly, switching batteries is a hassle.
I kind of want one now, I might go for the Tournament Edition though.
I just bought this and it is too loud I try to change it but even the lowest is too loud for me any fix for this?
Wired is better anyway less input lag💪🏼
It has no input lag, thats the whole point
Flakka Stunts plus no batteries or charging! 😂
Flakka Stunts i am sure the input lag on the controller is nothing to worry about compared to things like ping
there are many controllers that have less input lag in wireless mode, including the ubiquitous ds4:
10ms via usb cable.
don't believe me? good, look it up.
@@snoosen1678 close to no input lag*
.01 ms and .036 ms response time is a big deal for a controller. Wired always.
David Whitfield dude this isnt even 1ms..plus your tv probably have like 6 to 10ms delay
mariusprevost thats true
That’s bs
lol tv
Bull Chit mang
can you map the extra button to other buttons on you controller instead of controlling the sensitivity and map the buttons via pc? (I do not have a xbox)
how comfortable is it to use the paddles?? my elite didn't hold out so good and no one right now is selling it. which brings me to this more expensive controller that seems to be tougher.
What if Razer made a RGB controller for the switch
Who knows? 👌
160$ is not a reasonable price point for a controller. Just cause Microsoft sells luxury controllers too now doesn't make a few extra buttons and add-ons worth more than double the price of a standard controller.
GaudyMarrko a scuff is more... 160 is reasonable if you play a lot of games competitively
That's your opinion. You clearly never tried the Elite controller vs a regular one because I'd pay that price any day. 10x better controller than the ones that come with jt
The Elite is the best controller ever made.
For PC & Xbox. Also wireless for both.
I love the elite. I used to just be fine with standard controllers... but holy shit, life changer.
randomfrankp . *it**
I wanna get this because i had my elite for 2 years and its dying but honestly the power a fusion is wayyy better
EDIT: My left analog stick is dead now, It spins around as if i was spinning a fidget spinner.
Any good cheap elite controllers i could buy?
I bought one from gamestop and my audio keeps cutting out? How do i fix it?
Is this better than elite?
Game Start Xbox easily
Yes. By far
It is the true Xbox elite
wired remotes are the best.
Fax
They are
Using a wired Xbox 360 controller on my pc
I mean not really in my case
@@smokegames1179 HAHAHA
Can I run 240hz with no input delay with this?
Thanks for this video I will definitely buy this
Id get one but only for the lights.
Its pretty sick i have one you can do any colour u can do waves a rainbow or 2 colour changes
I like the heavy weight of my elite, makes it feel high quality
Elite controllers are dog shit though. I had one break by way of left thumbstick dying. The headohone jack was also messed up. I bought a new one, same issues are starting up again, left thimbstick has drift and headphone jack is messed up. Right bumber is giving out, upper left paddle is completely dead. Then bought the razer wolverine, please for the love of god switch to it. Actual quality
@@jacobdemond9898 Does it only drift in games cause I know it could happen if you change the deadzone in a game
"feel"
Wait, I'm confused..
So can you bind ALL 6 of the additional buttons to whatever you like, or just 4 of them and the other 2 are used for "dpi"?
I plugged it in to my xbox and it wont turn on?
I love Razer and prefer a wired setup, so this sounds perfect for me.
i would pay $80 max
I hear ya
Dont even own an xbox but your dumb, a standard xbox controller is 50-60 and this comes with alot of features, now the pricetag on this is crazy and overpriced but think of it like a mechanical keyboard or gaming mouse, you pay for what you get
Baker The Bradley I would spend 80$ max key word (I) its my option to spend more then that if I want. i dont need all the fancy bells and whistles I just need it to work.
respectable, but remember there are people that spend that type of money and this is who the product is geared to, ya catch my drift
I'd go $100, but yeah, $150 is borderline outrageous.
I prefer the weight and paddle placement on elite over the wolverine I also noticed the abxy buttons got stuck every now and then.
The agility and precision paddles would be amazing for fortnite on console, you can have a slower sensitivity for aiming and shooting and whenever you want to build you can click the agility paddle and instantly have a faster sensitivity
Just redeemed one of these bad boys free with 5 years of accumulated Microsoft rewards points I was unaware of, I'm stoked.
Kuroyuki ESO how do you get these points?
I have 140 grand points but I have no Fricking clue how to spend them HELPPP
@@nopenope5017 do you have the Microsoft rewards app? Imo that's the easiest way to redeem the points
thank u I meant 14 grand what could I get with that
lol using utube as a texting app
Frank is one of the most high-quality TH-camrs there are!
Sub_ZER0 no, unbox therapy is but I liked this
Dboy 37 you're kidding right?
I just bought a wired controller for different reasons.
In this case I wait for the Elite 2.
Wire only and plastic instead of rubber is the actual deal breaker.
my question is: does the rubber grips expands and peel off like the elite?
There was someone trying to sell this controller for $1,107
Thats and overpay
*spends $30 and buys a cheap keyboard and lazer mouse set* Now I am de Captain
Robert Biggart
Looking to buy a whole set;
Kb- £35
Mouse - £30
Mouse pad - £9
Not bad, amirite?
why would you get a £35 keyboard when you can get a cheap mechanical one for like £60 which is good quality
i am de cap.
Why does the wire unplug from the controller if it can’t be used wirelessly
i ordered one today for $16 after a $60 sale and my the use of my best buy rewards. pretty excited.
“M3, M4, M5, M5”
excuse me bimmer boi
I just wish there was an actual xbox one controller made just like the 360 controller. The analogs on the 360 are so much better in my opinion.
Shibby Buy some kontrol freeks mate
Disagree, One controller feels more premium and feels like I actually pressing it
its all personal preference, i just dont like the looseness of the analogs.
Shibby I agree that the analogs are better on the 360 than the normal One controller however, the analogs sticks on the Elite are the best of any console controller I have ever used.
The analog on My xbox one controller that came with the Xbox constantly pulls left....And my replacement is starting to feel like it`s going to do it too...I hope not.
Another negative is the cable port is proprietary. Make sure you get the warranty. If the cable faults, you can exchange for a brand new controller
so with this controller, i can have an even higher sensitivity than a game would allow me to through its settings?
The rgb on the razer is soooooo attention grabbing, rgb catches me like when I smell food.
I have this exact Razer controller and it is amazing, HOWEVER the biggest and really ONLY issue with it is that it randomly gets stuck or freezes. And that can be a pretty big problem for online shooters or other competitive games. That is truly the only issue with it, the controller is in great shape and has been well taken care of, my friend has one and the same thing happens to him with his. The controller will freeze randomly after playing for a bit and you have to unplug it and plug it back in. you will continue moving in some direction while it is frozen and that may be enough to get you killed. Very frustrating when playing rounds of siege or other shooters where you only have 1 life and every second counts. Nothing is wrong with the controller other than that and it has never been dropped, just thought it should be made aware that it must be an issue with these controllers. I used to have an elite xbox one controller and have never had that issue and it was wireless so I would say the xbox one elite controller is a bit more reliable even though it isn't even wired in. You can also plug the elite in to charge it or take the battery pack out and just play with the cord attached if that is your fancy which reduces the weight. I am going to be getting a new elite controller soon because of the reliability of it and it not freezing, however the razer is a great controller for other games that are not competitive online. 80% of the time it is not an issue, but 20% of the time, having this happen multiple times in the same night can be frustrating and it never fails, if you play it for a couple hours it WILL happen. Still like the Razer controller though, hope they do a firmware update that could fix this freezing issue in the future because other than that it is an excellent controller and if it was sold for less than the elite I would whole heartedly recommend it. They are pretty much the same price though so now I will own both.
JakeyAirplane how is the build quality ? Do the buttons hold up? I read somewhere that the buttons get sticky or unresponsive over time.
What’s the difference between the wildcat and the ultimate razor?
So the main question is: "How long will it last"? I have had Razer controllers in the past but they all have developed some button issues after a few months.
I have gone through three of these controllers. They feel great to play with after getting used to it but break on me after a few weeks. I do love the placement of the m1 and m2 switches (switcher right next to bumpers) but the main issue that I have had was with the thumb sticks. From the left stick controlling the right one, or the left stick just not inputting correctly. Idk probably my luck, have seen absolutely no one with these same issues. I’ve had such a terrible experience with this controller that I might as well use a elite or scuf, but If you want to spend $200 for a overpriced controller that can’t handle a single drop (in my case) then go for it.
Wait so should I get it it’s on sale for 120 now and that’s all I have so should I get it or no? all my other controllers are broken.
I let my friend use my Razer Sabertooth controller on his Xbone and he didn't like the fact that it was wired until he loaded up a game and started killing everyone. He didn't get it until I explained latency, then he understood, and bought one the next day. Next I should bring over my monitor to lessen the latency even more. Wonder what would happen then :)
Xbone
Eric Marcus Xbox has latency innately because of its secondary graphics
Not my X, it runs like a pc 👌
look at christopher and his one of a kind xbox
Christopher Chowace Lol the one x is still far behind the PC scene, the inability to even hit 60 FPS on your console is jus a no for any normal PC gamer. Listen the consoles are good if you want to play for cheap but no where as good as modern PCs that are built for gaming.
i personally dont mind it being wired , all my peripherals are wired mamba elite and huntsman TE love them both , wanna add this gamepad on my collection too !
Where can I get additional analog sticks
Holy shit. This could change the eSports scene so much. I would if it will be legal
It is, everyone who plays comp games on console either uses a scuf or some other sort of controller with paddles/buttons on the back. MLG and many other companies who host events allow them.
I don’t get why people use controllers in eSports
The Bread Man they don't. competitive consol gaming is pretty much non existent these days. Man I miss the glory of the 360 days
when 360 competitive games were actually a thing lmao
The Bread Man rocket league
4:10 ASMR
What the usb model that conect to the controler ?
If you're running an Aorus Extreme 2080ti, I can definitely recommend it. The RGB complement each other beautifully! Hehe! 😂
Want
Lowspecgamer 101 Same
I subscribed just because of the Eagles jesey
fictiondic I literally almost wore that same shirt today but opted for my Ertz shirt instead! Would've been hilarious to randomly watch a video and see a guy wearing the same shirt. Super Bowl champs!
So the M buttons cannot be remapped whatsoever on the PC? Just sensitivity controls?
Damn, bro. This is a real review.
That agility control probably helps a lot with building for fortnite.
Peter Dennis the only reason i bought it
Great for flying as well. I have an XONE Elite, and I had to adjust the sensitivity on the thumbsticks so I wouldn't overshoot in SWBF.
Sky Osiris do you still use it? I just bought one yesterday
@@PandasWeightloss yea i do but it definetly wasnt worth the money. Id recommend the cheaper version
This is better than the Elite in my opinion.
I agree
Yea
I have both and definitely agree
Not opinion lol literally facts
razer has mechanical buttons , hence the clicking sound, and they arent sitting on rubber like all of xboxs controllers
Interesting, you are the first person I've heard refer to a third party controller being alot lighter a pro instead of a con. Kinda a neat perspective shift, thinking about it beings better for use over long hours
Did they change the paddles, looking at the present images it has 4 paddles.
2 on the bottom of the controller, and 2 next to the lb/Rb b buttons.
Installs the taller stick on the left... 😒.. dur.
That's where I put mine. I use the left stick to aim.
Ralph England ewwwww
Actually it being wired is a selling point for me. I would not have bought it if it was wireless.
Arik Haydn not hating, but I I just want to understand why?
No input lag from it being wireless and not having to worry about battery status
It's 2017. Wireless is just as good as wired (for quality devices). Also you can run any controller wired...
You clearly don't know anything about input lag. It even depends on how fast of a refresh rate your TV has. Because when playing online everything is at play.
Why even game on the TV then? If every ms counts for your 'playing online' and you know anything about input lag...
Besides, it all depends on the game. For something like Overwatch, input lag is not as noticeable as it is for CSGO where 'everything is at play' as you put it.
watch?v=YCJnK_nUyg0 - Literally no difference wired/wireless.
I wonder if the mouse buttons have more reliability and consistency than the standard push button.
I bought this to help me learn how to snipe (I really suck at it). It seems that the "Focus" function may help me out but I cannot, for the life of me, how you guys change the button layout and actually play!! I tried it and I'm constantly pushing the wrong one!! Maybe someday I'll figure it out.