It’s incredibly funny that Persona 3, the game that introduced Social Links to the series, starts off with such oddballs as a guy who wants to ask out his teacher and an online acquaintance you only speak with through an MMO chat log.
What I find neat about P3 is just bizarre a lot of the game is. They were clearly just starting to figure out how this all was gonna work and they didn't nail even close to it but what they did get right is very memorable and often really really entertaining lol I think I like P4 and P5's average social link better than the average P3 one but I have to give a lot of credit to P3 for inventing the basic skeleton of the series as we know it today and some of the highs are the highest in the series (Sun, Hierophant, Hanged Man, etc)
Oh Kenji... I mean what more can be said, right guys? Also, Chihiro actually had a cameo as a senior in Persona 4 during the school trip. And yeah, Evan is right about Innocent Sin being Persona 2. More specifically, the first part of the Persona 2 duology. Without saying much, there's a fair few references to Persona 1 and 2 in this game, and the Hermit Arcana happens to just be a big reference to Persona 2.
not a surprise. They remember all their games, they just don't want to remake things that are unpopular. but i think persona 2 actually TIED with this game so... Hmmmm...? could it be...?!
@@Max1996YT the leaker is very credible, hasn't gotten anything wrong so far like p5t and p3r, but honestly as soon as i saw how many copies reload sold it just makes sense for more remakes to come at this point.
S.E.E.S. has more of a Coworker Dynamic and they don't really get closer until much later in the game, also no Male Party Member Social Links, though they did add Linked Episodes and Dorm hangouts(do 3 of each with each party member to boost their special attacks) to make up for that in Reload Now, a quick refresher for the naming of skills Element - Agi - fire - Bufu - ice - Garu - wind - Zio - electricity - Kouha - light - Eiha - dark - Megido - Almighty (all non-unique Almighty skills are Enemy Party targeting) - Dia - heal Prefix - Me/Ma - Party (depending on the type it could target an enemy Party) Suffix - La/Lao/Ga - Medium Damage - Dyne/Laon/Gaon - Heavy Damage Examples - Mabufudyne (Enemy Party Ice Heavy) - Agilao (Fire Medium) - Media (Party Heal) The Dia skills have unique suffixes for better healing - Rama - Moderate Healing - Rahan - Full Healing
Also, You can Get supplies and equipment During Sale days to save money Police Station - Monday Pharmacy - Saturday Finally, You need Max Academics to start Mitsuru's Social Link(very late in the game), Max Charm to start Yukari's later in the game, and Max Courage to eat someone's cooking
Dang, I forgot how hard it was to learn all that nomenclature system was in the first place! Still have trouble with all the -ndas and -kajas though haha
@@woodneel Bonus Lesson The "Ma" prefix also applies to the support skills, and the Suffix denotes if it's a Buff or Debuff Types - Taru - Attack - Raku - Defense - Suku - Agility - De -Undo Suffixes - Kaja - Buff - Kunda - Debuff Examples - Tarukaja (Attack Buff) - Marukunda (Enemy Party Defense Debuff) - Masukukaja (Party Agility Buff) The "De" type skills are unique in that they don't have the "Ma" for Party wide skills - Dekaja (Undo Enemy Party's Buffs) - Dekunda (Undo Party's Debuffs) Had to differentiate between party and enemy party due to skills like Revolution that are truly AOE to both the party and enemies alike
Tatsuya and Maya is both Persona 2 main protagonists. Tatsuya is the protagonist of P2: Innocent Sin (the first part of P2), while Maya is the protagonist of P2: Eternal Punishment (the second part of P2). Also pretty sure PHIL is a reference for Philemon
4:20 the reason the answers didnt match was cause as u thought it was a hangout only to gain points if not yet at rank up, school SLs will only rank up AT SCHOOL anything else is a hangout. Also im not sure if its everyday or just days u didnt head to school but u are able to head back in to the dorm without passing time after leaving it.
Hangout days only give you affection points, not an arcana level up. So, unless you really needed to raise affection points to level up, you just wasted a time slot. This is the same stuff in P5 where your teammates called you on holidays/summer vacation.
Just read the description. Yeah, that can happen with these new Persona games. Let’s hope we don’t get a repeat of “The Alice Effect”… Copyright strikers are not welcome in the Dark Hour.
26:34 I've seen this assumption from one other let's player and I'm not quite sure where it comes from Yukari told you father disappeared after an accident while working for the Kirijo Group, it's very likely that's why she dislikes Mitsuru
Its great that we can all play things differently here and I learned from your playthrough how to unlock the laptop thing so appreciate that! Loving the playthrough! Sorry to hear about the muting portion that I read in the description. Whatever you need to do Evan and we completely understand.
@@TheUltimateRareNah honesty I'd say the P3 cast is the one LEAST tied to the MC (at least it the modern games). You could honestly remove him from the game, let everything play out as normal and only two characters would be any different
Just a heads up but the weapons and armor are on sale EVERY Monday. You didn't check your messages, so you missed the notification the first time, but it should tell you that again when the next Monday rolls around.
"What a group. What a crew." That's what I like about P3: the party aren't a group of friends united by purpose. They're more like co-workers who have individual reasons to sign up for a special project. The game gets to explore a much wider range of group dynamics.
While I don't agree with the coworker bit I'd like to say THANK YOU! I find myself arguing with people about what's the best Persona cast is and so many people dock points against P3 because they "don't feel like friends" but the fact that they aren't all buddy buddy at first is part of what I like about them and the Persona 2 cast. It allows for unique character development and dynamics
@@priseta9290Akinari is many fav by P3 fans cause his S.Link tied with MC personal state also. I just love Akinari, and the fact he got inderctly mentioned in P4 with the Pink Alligator book is really nice.
1:12 For some reason, that face reminds me of the talking flowers from Super Mario Wonder 2:47 He's a decent-looking guy who made flirtatious comments towards the protagonist. Given the previous Persona games, how did you *not* think Ali would want you to spend time with him? XD
Ngl I’ve only just now noticed Miyaharas a Ms. And not a Mr. And I’m like 2 in game months ahead. Huh. That’s what happens when you assume I guess. And I actually like Miyahara; she actually does her job as a teacher and enjoys it unlike samurai dude.😅
4:33 Evan since this was a special event invite these answers are different than the ones you are looking at those are actual confidant rank up hang out answers so those are correct which I'm assuming you are looking at.
omg at 55:53 a tokimeki memorial refrence, that game was actually really ground breaking for dating sims and interestingly other games too like Kogi Igurashi worked on it, seems a little silly that it's on an arcade machine though (if you want to know more there is a VERY lengthy Action Button Reviews video on it
Spot on Evan, for noticing that Persona 2 reference! Actually, there will be more references of both Persona 1 & 2 in the game itself. Not to mention that Chihiro ( the treasurer of the student council ) had a cameo on Persona 4 when you guys went on the trip to Tatsumi Port Island. And unfortunately, we can't really start social links with the male sees members since that is available ( saying this as a slight spoiler in case ) only to Persona 3 portable in playing as the femc
In this episode we get PERSONA 2 REFERENCES!!! I hope the rumors of a remake/remaster is true. I love those games. Also we see one of my favorite characters of the game at the end.
we've now gotten the only other social link that made a new character for femc hermit for male is: maya hermit for female is: saori hasegawa who helps kotone with her student comitee activity (is not relate to zenkichi) hidetoshi is still the emperor arcana for both but something i found out a bit ago there are unused strings of code that refer to saori and rio also a thing i kept forgetting to mention the names of the social ranks is different (two charm ranks for femc is debonair and queen bee) that's all
45:07 Did I find this specific timestamp out of spite for this particular guy? Perhaps. Yes. Anyway. I've played Persona 3 FES and Portable. But despite playing through the game basically 3 times(with Reload now being out), I still don't skip any of the dialogue. Especially since now most of it is voiced. EXCEPT THIS GUY. I listened to a few of his speeches when I first played. But he just goes on and on and on. And he is probably the only character I don't feel bad skipping dialogue for. If you like him or his speeches, happy for you. Just not me or my cup of tea. Yap session
boxing actually retrains your brain to not fight like a normal person. They don't actually close their fists to punch. So fighters who box actually have trouble punching in real life normally.
10:34 I think it's worth looking at the bulletin board for later, the velvet room might have something too Chagall Cafe was also in P4, there you get skill cards depending on your equipped persona When are the shopping channel days again? I never saw it. 14:00 Oh my God, oh hell no! 14:26 The speeches in both original and here were changed, but are still ripoffs 14:43 Where's Coco from Foster's home for imaginary friends when you need her? Coco- Coco! Principle- Ripoff artist?! (Kick) Principle- Ow ow my shins! Can't ask the phantom thieves because they don't exist yet 15:50 XD He sounds like Mario and looks like a squirrel, also I thought that was a woman all this time 24:55 Bruh! 37:25 For real! (Counting it) Also, this person speaks like Tsukasa in Makoto's confidant Now I can say this, Edogawa is a crazy man. He teaches nothing and he sucks as a nurse. 57:24 O_O I could've sworn I heard Yukari not being a karen Potantial!- 4 For real- 2 official + (3 by chance) = 5
Fair warning: Edogawa goes on long rants, as you saw back in 4 when we visited tatsumi port island for the class trip. I love the Maya social link. The 2's are actually pretty good, but they aren't the best games. 2 had 2 parts to it, innocent sin and eternal punishment. Also, Phil, freaking Philemon. I love it.
Ms. Miyahara is the female math teacher in all other versions of Persona 3. For some reason in Reload, they changed the character male in all but name and still image. Don't know why, there is no official explanation. My best guess is its a stealth trans situation or oversite on changing the name to match the new gender. XD
It's good that you keep getting a decent amount of social links. A tip about social links (in this game) is that you need to hang out with the other confidants in other to unlock more confidants. Like that gourmet king, you unlock him by hanging out with Kenji. So hang out with other characters and visit club often in order to unlock more confidants. Plus if you get hint about about a new person, it might be best to visit them immediately before you forget.
I think the math teacher is supposed to be a man, and the Ms. is a mistranslation. Behindthevoiceactors uses Mr. Edit: Confirmation, it was supposed to be Mr. It got fixed in a patch.
Honestly, if I was the one playing, the first thing I would've done when the tutorial about buying software for the computer or whatever, would've been to go and check the software store. If not to buy, at least to know what is there to use and what it's purpose even is! I'm a curious sort!
Kenji's plan it's like a car crash waiting to happen and you can't quite look away.
Don't know if you recognize Chihiro at all, but she was the guide for Yasogami's school trip in Persona 4!
"Is she okay?"
No one in this game is okay.
At this time Futaba is 8 years old she is 15 in 2016 and persona 3 take place in 2009.
It’s incredibly funny that Persona 3, the game that introduced Social Links to the series, starts off with such oddballs as a guy who wants to ask out his teacher and an online acquaintance you only speak with through an MMO chat log.
What I find neat about P3 is just bizarre a lot of the game is. They were clearly just starting to figure out how this all was gonna work and they didn't nail even close to it but what they did get right is very memorable and often really really entertaining lol
I think I like P4 and P5's average social link better than the average P3 one but I have to give a lot of credit to P3 for inventing the basic skeleton of the series as we know it today and some of the highs are the highest in the series (Sun, Hierophant, Hanged Man, etc)
Oh Kenji... I mean what more can be said, right guys?
Also, Chihiro actually had a cameo as a senior in Persona 4 during the school trip.
And yeah, Evan is right about Innocent Sin being Persona 2. More specifically, the first part of the Persona 2 duology. Without saying much, there's a fair few references to Persona 1 and 2 in this game, and the Hermit Arcana happens to just be a big reference to Persona 2.
I wished they referenced more about the characters in persona 3 on recent persona games
Maya and Tatsuya and all that stuff are references to Persona 2 if you're curious
Ah, Maya. A walking pile of references to Persona 2.
not a surprise. They remember all their games, they just don't want to remake things that are unpopular. but i think persona 2 actually TIED with this game so...
Hmmmm...? could it be...?!
@@TheUltimateRare Sadly, knowing Atlus...probably not.
The same person that leaked p3r also said p1 and p2 are planed to get remade as well, we just need to be pacient at this point.
@@thiagoalves9037 I'm sorry, but how? Actually, no, never mind that, I guess we'll see.
@@Max1996YT the leaker is very credible, hasn't gotten anything wrong so far like p5t and p3r, but honestly as soon as i saw how many copies reload sold it just makes sense for more remakes to come at this point.
the Hermit social link is so aggressively 2000s lmao
And I love it for it!
I wonder how Evan will feel for the Yasogami High Student Council President once they meet her in Persona 4 Arena, if they ever play that game
S.E.E.S. has more of a Coworker Dynamic and they don't really get closer until much later in the game, also no Male Party Member Social Links, though they did add Linked Episodes and Dorm hangouts(do 3 of each with each party member to boost their special attacks) to make up for that in Reload
Now, a quick refresher for the naming of skills
Element
- Agi - fire
- Bufu - ice
- Garu - wind
- Zio - electricity
- Kouha - light
- Eiha - dark
- Megido - Almighty (all non-unique Almighty skills are Enemy Party targeting)
- Dia - heal
Prefix
- Me/Ma - Party (depending on the type it could target an enemy Party)
Suffix
- La/Lao/Ga - Medium Damage
- Dyne/Laon/Gaon - Heavy Damage
Examples
- Mabufudyne (Enemy Party Ice Heavy)
- Agilao (Fire Medium)
- Media (Party Heal)
The Dia skills have unique suffixes for better healing
- Rama - Moderate Healing
- Rahan - Full Healing
Also, You can Get supplies and equipment During Sale days to save money
Police Station - Monday
Pharmacy - Saturday
Finally, You need Max Academics to start Mitsuru's Social Link(very late in the game), Max Charm to start Yukari's later in the game, and Max Courage to eat someone's cooking
Dang, I forgot how hard it was to learn all that nomenclature system was in the first place! Still have trouble with all the -ndas and -kajas though haha
@@woodneel Bonus Lesson
The "Ma" prefix also applies to the support skills, and the Suffix denotes if it's a Buff or Debuff
Types
- Taru - Attack
- Raku - Defense
- Suku - Agility
- De -Undo
Suffixes
- Kaja - Buff
- Kunda - Debuff
Examples
- Tarukaja (Attack Buff)
- Marukunda (Enemy Party Defense Debuff)
- Masukukaja (Party Agility Buff)
The "De" type skills are unique in that they don't have the "Ma" for Party wide skills
- Dekaja (Undo Enemy Party's Buffs)
- Dekunda (Undo Party's Debuffs)
Had to differentiate between party and enemy party due to skills like Revolution that are truly AOE to both the party and enemies alike
Also Hama and Mudo (instant-kill light and darck attacks respectibly)
I had forgotten about Edogawa endless lectures.
Tatsuya and Maya is both Persona 2 main protagonists. Tatsuya is the protagonist of P2: Innocent Sin (the first part of P2), while Maya is the protagonist of P2: Eternal Punishment (the second part of P2).
Also pretty sure PHIL is a reference for Philemon
Yup, Philemon, a.k.a. Igor's boss
@@BuretsuI remember watching someone play P2 and they actually got it wrong. Hell they even said Philemon was Igor's son😂
4:20 the reason the answers didnt match was cause as u thought it was a hangout only to gain points if not yet at rank up, school SLs will only rank up AT SCHOOL anything else is a hangout. Also im not sure if its everyday or just days u didnt head to school but u are able to head back in to the dorm without passing time after leaving it.
Hangout days only give you affection points, not an arcana level up. So, unless you really needed to raise affection points to level up, you just wasted a time slot.
This is the same stuff in P5 where your teammates called you on holidays/summer vacation.
Just read the description. Yeah, that can happen with these new Persona games. Let’s hope we don’t get a repeat of “The Alice Effect”…
Copyright strikers are not welcome in the Dark Hour.
26:34 I've seen this assumption from one other let's player and I'm not quite sure where it comes from
Yukari told you father disappeared after an accident while working for the Kirijo Group, it's very likely that's why she dislikes Mitsuru
I love how expressive Junpei’s va is!
Its great that we can all play things differently here and I learned from your playthrough how to unlock the laptop thing so appreciate that! Loving the playthrough! Sorry to hear about the muting portion that I read in the description. Whatever you need to do Evan and we completely understand.
In short, Yukari is not ok. None of the characters are ok, really, but all for different reasons.
Dragon ball Z moment where the group is tied together by main character who is super strong and everyone has weird problems.
@@TheUltimateRareNah honesty I'd say the P3 cast is the one LEAST tied to the MC (at least it the modern games). You could honestly remove him from the game, let everything play out as normal and only two characters would be any different
No worries about the music, whatever ya got to do!
Just a heads up but the weapons and armor are on sale EVERY Monday. You didn't check your messages, so you missed the notification the first time, but it should tell you that again when the next Monday rolls around.
56:30 yukari: crazy how fast timw flies.
Opening: its full moon again, crazy how fast time flies...
"What a group. What a crew."
That's what I like about P3: the party aren't a group of friends united by purpose. They're more like co-workers who have individual reasons to sign up for a special project.
The game gets to explore a much wider range of group dynamics.
While I don't agree with the coworker bit I'd like to say THANK YOU! I find myself arguing with people about what's the best Persona cast is and so many people dock points against P3 because they "don't feel like friends" but the fact that they aren't all buddy buddy at first is part of what I like about them and the Persona 2 cast. It allows for unique character development and dynamics
My second favorite social link in this game is Kenji Tomochika.
Which one's number 1?
@@RognikAkinari. Everyone's favorite of course, (excluding romances).
@@priseta9290Akinari is many fav by P3 fans cause his S.Link tied with MC personal state also.
I just love Akinari, and the fact he got inderctly mentioned in P4 with the Pink Alligator book is really nice.
1:12 For some reason, that face reminds me of the talking flowers from Super Mario Wonder
2:47 He's a decent-looking guy who made flirtatious comments towards the protagonist. Given the previous Persona games, how did you *not* think Ali would want you to spend time with him? XD
Ngl I’ve only just now noticed Miyaharas a Ms. And not a Mr. And I’m like 2 in game months ahead. Huh. That’s what happens when you assume I guess. And I actually like Miyahara; she actually does her job as a teacher and enjoys it unlike samurai dude.😅
Though her lessons aren't exactly the most... helpful. "8s a good number, almost as good as 9. Does anyone realize how awesome 2 is?"
I’m really worried about what this plan is going to be!
4:33 Evan since this was a special event invite these answers are different than the ones you are looking at those are actual confidant rank up hang out answers so those are correct which I'm assuming you are looking at.
You will not get the Maya Persona 2 reference but that's fine, I like the small fan service!
I think the more the social stay flashes means closer
Ali likes the white hair types huh lol
Ms. Miyahara needs the triangle to signify that she's the math teacher.
My school had class representatives that went to meetings, I don't know much about them since I never tried to be one.
omg at 55:53 a tokimeki memorial refrence, that game was actually really ground breaking for dating sims and interestingly other games too like Kogi Igurashi worked on it, seems a little silly that it's on an arcade machine though (if you want to know more there is a VERY lengthy Action Button Reviews video on it
Yes, beanie boy is save. (He had me worried most with the whole new VA thing.)
Spot on Evan, for noticing that Persona 2 reference! Actually, there will be more references of both Persona 1 & 2 in the game itself. Not to mention that Chihiro ( the treasurer of the student council ) had a cameo on Persona 4 when you guys went on the trip to Tatsumi Port Island. And unfortunately, we can't really start social links with the male sees members since that is available ( saying this as a slight spoiler in case ) only to Persona 3 portable in playing as the femc
...oh boi this is gonna be fun
Hermit took whole day and night unless on plot day in past
Shared Computer is new and has some intresting stuff
In this episode we get PERSONA 2 REFERENCES!!! I hope the rumors of a remake/remaster is true. I love those games. Also we see one of my favorite characters of the game at the end.
Tomochika likes ripe fruits 💀
Kurosawa gives you a discount on Mondays and you can get free courage ups the day after Tartarus by visiting the nurse’s office.
we've now gotten the only other social link that made a new character for femc
hermit for male is: maya
hermit for female is: saori hasegawa who helps kotone with her student comitee activity (is not relate to zenkichi)
hidetoshi is still the emperor arcana for both but something i found out a bit ago
there are unused strings of code that refer to saori and rio
also a thing i kept forgetting to mention
the names of the social ranks is different (two charm ranks for femc is debonair and queen bee)
that's all
45:07 Did I find this specific timestamp out of spite for this particular guy? Perhaps. Yes. Anyway. I've played Persona 3 FES and Portable. But despite playing through the game basically 3 times(with Reload now being out), I still don't skip any of the dialogue. Especially since now most of it is voiced. EXCEPT THIS GUY. I listened to a few of his speeches when I first played. But he just goes on and on and on. And he is probably the only character I don't feel bad skipping dialogue for. If you like him or his speeches, happy for you. Just not me or my cup of tea. Yap session
This is how I feel when you talk about Akechi. Yap session lol
It’s not a typo. It’s Ms Miyahara in the original, but the voice did throw me off when I heard it in one of the trailers.
I imagine Himiko being Mr. Edogawa's top student
Oh god I could actually see that😅
boxing actually retrains your brain to not fight like a normal person. They don't actually close their fists to punch. So fighters who box actually have trouble punching in real life normally.
Tatsuya and Maya are the name's of the 2 MC in Persona 2 lol
Tokimeki Memorial at the arcade hahahahaha
58:00 Hi mysterious man 🙂 How are you mysterious man?
10:34 I think it's worth looking at the bulletin board for later, the velvet room might have something too
Chagall Cafe was also in P4, there you get skill cards depending on your equipped persona
When are the shopping channel days again? I never saw it.
14:00 Oh my God, oh hell no!
14:26 The speeches in both original and here were changed, but are still ripoffs
14:43 Where's Coco from Foster's home for imaginary friends when you need her?
Coco- Coco!
Principle- Ripoff artist?!
(Kick)
Principle- Ow ow my shins!
Can't ask the phantom thieves because they don't exist yet
15:50 XD He sounds like Mario and looks like a squirrel, also I thought that was a woman all this time
24:55 Bruh!
37:25 For real! (Counting it)
Also, this person speaks like Tsukasa in Makoto's confidant
Now I can say this, Edogawa is a crazy man. He teaches nothing and he sucks as a nurse.
57:24 O_O I could've sworn I heard Yukari not being a karen
Potantial!- 4
For real- 2 official + (3 by chance) = 5
Fair warning: Edogawa goes on long rants, as you saw back in 4 when we visited tatsumi port island for the class trip. I love the Maya social link. The 2's are actually pretty good, but they aren't the best games. 2 had 2 parts to it, innocent sin and eternal punishment. Also, Phil, freaking Philemon. I love it.
Ms. Miyahara is the female math teacher in all other versions of Persona 3. For some reason in Reload, they changed the character male in all but name and still image. Don't know why, there is no official explanation. My best guess is its a stealth trans situation or oversite on changing the name to match the new gender. XD
One of the few things I know about Persona 3 is that Kenji's social link is at least _one_ of the more disliked ones in the game/series
Funny thing is, from what I've seen, a lot of people have more issues with Makoto's role in the link than with Kenji himself
It's good that you keep getting a decent amount of social links.
A tip about social links (in this game) is that you need to hang out with the other confidants in other to unlock more confidants. Like that gourmet king, you unlock him by hanging out with Kenji. So hang out with other characters and visit club often in order to unlock more confidants. Plus if you get hint about about a new person, it might be best to visit them immediately before you forget.
I hope chihiro wins he protag bowl
Persona 2 references are welcome in the dark hour...
I think the math teacher is supposed to be a man, and the Ms. is a mistranslation. Behindthevoiceactors uses Mr.
Edit: Confirmation, it was supposed to be Mr. It got fixed in a patch.
Yeah Innocent Sin is the name of the FIRST Persona 2.
Yes because Persona 2 had a direct sequel: Persona 2: Eternal Punishment.
Joker would approve /j
Which Joker?
Honestly, if I was the one playing, the first thing I would've done when the tutorial about buying software for the computer or whatever, would've been to go and check the software store. If not to buy, at least to know what is there to use and what it's purpose even is! I'm a curious sort!
Are you both brother and sister?
Tatsuya is the name of the protagonist in Persona 2 Innocent Sin, and Maya is essentially the main romantic interest
And the protagonist of Eternal Punishment, the original FeMC!
@@connorharnage6697 Well yeah, but since the MMO is called Innocent Sin I skipped that part
@@Alfrodo8 True but I figured it was still worth noting because tbh she's one of my favorite protagonists