Yes!! TH-cam needs more videos like this! You're absolutely right that it's a little discussed plant fact! I tried planting a grocery store potato in a tower (thanks to alllllll the Pinterest links showing how amazing it works) and when it didn't work out, I did more research an learned about this distinction. After more than a decade of growing veg, including potatoes that I used to grow in the ground, I had never come across this fact. Your list is very helpful ☺️ Thank you for making this video to add some real, valuable info to a sea of under-researched garden "hacks."
So glad it was helpful! I had the same epiphany when I finally learned about this - it explains so much about why the soil layering technique didn't work most of the time. I really have no idea why this isn't talked about more! Crazy!
I grew two batches of Russets so far this year, starting back in late January. I am in Texas. Both times I planted 8 potatoes, which produced roughly 60-70 various size potatoes. I have found the grow cycle is about 75-80 days and they are done and dying. I just learned that all Russets are not indeterminate. Apparently mine are determinate.
Right?! I always used to plant them the same way by layering the soil and the potatoes always grew at the same level - I couldn't figure out why! Major facepalm moment when I realized this!
Finally! After hearing about determinant and indeterminate potatoes, I've been searching for which is which. I have come to your channel, and you've explained the differences, the pros and cons, as well as given examples of both determinate and indeterminate potatoes. Now I can plant with confidence, and I thank you! You have a new subscriber 😊
So you are right about indeterminate and determinate potatoes and I agree mostly with what you have said, however I would still hill the determinate potatoes once because they still have a tendency to want to grow potatoes near the soil surface and if they end up poking through the soil and turn green well that green part of the potato is no good do to solinine which is a glycoalkaloid and poisonous though it probably won't kill you it can make you sick ie vomiting and diarrhea. Nor KO tah is I assume what Norkotah is which I think means North Dakota. A lot of breeding occurs at NDSU, but I have not looked this up so don't take it as gospel
Very interesting video. Not something I've read about anywhere, but it makes total sense, and explains my own experience with growing potatoes. Thanks for sharing the varieties you chose to plant - and the completely valid reasoning for your choices. I'm all for easy gardening and less work. ☺️
@@RootedRevival I like the Harlequin Gold for red potatoes (red and yellow skin with yellow flesh). They do well in our dry, hot summers. As for russets, like you, I mainly use Russet Norkotah - which I pronounce like Dakota.☺️ They produce a lot, taste good, and store pretty well even in our climate. (And sometimes I have random potatoes coming up here and there due to potato peels creeping into my trench composting... 🙄☺️)
Useful, thank you! I missed the window for buying seed potatoes (in Spain) so I just chitted some potatoes bought in the store, no possibility of knowing the variety so my results will be a wait and see. I think the small salad type potatoes are probably determinate by what you say, the bigger, red ones, probably vine type, indeterminate. This video really helps, you’re very clear without being too repeaty, gracias from Spain 🌱🌱🌱🙏
So glad the video was helpful! During the pandemic I couldn't get my hands on seed potatoes so I planted sprouted grocery store russets! I wrote a full blog post about it - feel free to check it out... hopefully it will help 😊 Best luck! Let us know how it goes! rootedrevival.com/grow-store-bought-potatoes/
This was great! I did not know there were two types! I have not grown potatoes yet but will in the early Fall (in AZ) hopefully. Growing sweet “potatoes” right now.
Oh I love sweet potatoes! I used to grow them in Idaho but we just don't have a warm enough summer season here in Washington! Do you eat the leaves too? I loved tossing them into salads 😋
There is an infinite amount of discussion about whether to "hill" potatoes or not and people seem to disagree. Especially in Danish forums I come across the discussion. We grow and eat a lot of potatoes. Some people say that potatoes only set tubers below and at the level of the original seed potato, some say it is wrong. I came across the distinction of determinate and indeterminate potatoes (I knew about the concept for tomatoes), and I literally cannot seem to find any information in Danish about the subject! Only for tomatoes. Quite interesting. The seed bags do not even have this information.
Have you ever planted potatoes that sprout that were purchased to eat? We have some that were in a recently purchased bag. It had a potato that had been half cut off in the bag & started rotting. Very stinky. So I washed the others off in the bag & am going to plant them when the weather gets warm here. The store did replace the bag when they were informed of the rotten potato. So it's worth a shot to plant the others that were with that rotten one.
I have! I actually relied on this entirely during the pandemic when I couldn't find seed potatoes to purchase. It can absolutely be successful. The one thing I am extra careful of is to plant them in containers since they aren't certified disease free. I wrote a full blog post on it - if you are interested, I'll link it below. (The variety I planted in the blog was an indeterminate russet so I did the soil layering technique) rootedrevival.com/grow-store-bought-potatoes/
Wow, that’s good to know! 👍But oh dear, we have some English organic potatoes from Waitrose, variety unknown, that have sprouted eyes. Our son wants to grow them in a 10G growbag. And we have no idea if they are D or ID. So we have no idea when he plants them in Mid-March, whether to earth them later as time goes by, or if they will produce just once. Please can u advise what to do? Shall we bury once whole/hill them, regardless of whether they are D/ID? PS. This is so helpful. Have just subscribed!
Well I know this is 3 months old and so probably not helpful. I guess not knowing I would hill them and wait and see, if when they die back and dry up all you have is the one bunch of potatoes at the bottom of the bag well nothing lost, but if they are indeterminate then likely much gained.
I have been growing the Sevilla and Cammeo variety (bc of their disease resistance)but dont really know if they are determinate or indeterminate🤔 Anyone have any idea?
I am sorry it makes no difference. I was a master gardener nd was taught this: Does Determinate or Indeterminate Make a Difference In a Home Garden? Whether you are growing determinate or indeterminate potatoes makes absolutely no difference in your garden Both types of potatoes are grown the same, and they can benefit from planting in trenches and hilling. Also, all potatoes grow very well in the garden or in grow bags.
Great video, just not true. If you keep hilling potatoes they do not keep growing up unless you add new seed potatoes. There's early, mid and late potatoes nothing else.
Yes!! TH-cam needs more videos like this! You're absolutely right that it's a little discussed plant fact! I tried planting a grocery store potato in a tower (thanks to alllllll the Pinterest links showing how amazing it works) and when it didn't work out, I did more research an learned about this distinction. After more than a decade of growing veg, including potatoes that I used to grow in the ground, I had never come across this fact. Your list is very helpful ☺️ Thank you for making this video to add some real, valuable info to a sea of under-researched garden "hacks."
So glad it was helpful! I had the same epiphany when I finally learned about this - it explains so much about why the soil layering technique didn't work most of the time. I really have no idea why this isn't talked about more! Crazy!
I grew two batches of Russets so far this year, starting back in late January. I am in Texas. Both times I planted 8 potatoes, which produced roughly 60-70 various size potatoes. I have found the grow cycle is about 75-80 days and they are done and dying. I just learned that all Russets are not indeterminate. Apparently mine are determinate.
Thank you. Very clear and lots of info.
Great to know!!! Thank uou!
Hi thanks for your help Gary
Now you got me googling my varieties!!!
Right?! I always used to plant them the same way by layering the soil and the potatoes always grew at the same level - I couldn't figure out why! Major facepalm moment when I realized this!
This detail also eluded me. Your video was very helpful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Finally! After hearing about determinant and indeterminate potatoes, I've been searching for which is which. I have come to your channel, and you've explained the differences, the pros and cons, as well as given examples of both determinate and indeterminate potatoes. Now I can plant with confidence, and I thank you! You have a new subscriber 😊
You are right but seed sellers often don’t tell you and it can be very difficult to find details on the Internet. Thanks for the video!
So you are right about indeterminate and determinate potatoes and I agree mostly with what you have said, however I would still hill the determinate potatoes once because they still have a tendency to want to grow potatoes near the soil surface and if they end up poking through the soil and turn green well that green part of the potato is no good do to solinine which is a glycoalkaloid and poisonous though it probably won't kill you it can make you sick ie vomiting and diarrhea. Nor KO tah is I assume what Norkotah is which I think means North Dakota. A lot of breeding occurs at NDSU, but I have not looked this up so don't take it as gospel
Very interesting video. Not something I've read about anywhere, but it makes total sense, and explains my own experience with growing potatoes. Thanks for sharing the varieties you chose to plant - and the completely valid reasoning for your choices. I'm all for easy gardening and less work. ☺️
Would love to hear some of your favorite varieties!
@@RootedRevival I like the Harlequin Gold for red potatoes (red and yellow skin with yellow flesh). They do well in our dry, hot summers. As for russets, like you, I mainly use Russet Norkotah - which I pronounce like Dakota.☺️ They produce a lot, taste good, and store pretty well even in our climate.
(And sometimes I have random potatoes coming up here and there due to potato peels creeping into my trench composting... 🙄☺️)
OMGosh, thanks.
Useful, thank you! I missed the window for buying seed potatoes (in Spain) so I just chitted some potatoes bought in the store, no possibility of knowing the variety so my results will be a wait and see. I think the small salad type potatoes are probably determinate by what you say, the bigger, red ones, probably vine type, indeterminate. This video really helps, you’re very clear without being too repeaty, gracias from Spain 🌱🌱🌱🙏
So glad the video was helpful! During the pandemic I couldn't get my hands on seed potatoes so I planted sprouted grocery store russets! I wrote a full blog post about it - feel free to check it out... hopefully it will help 😊 Best luck! Let us know how it goes! rootedrevival.com/grow-store-bought-potatoes/
This was great! I did not know there were two types! I have not grown potatoes yet but will in the early Fall (in AZ) hopefully. Growing sweet “potatoes” right now.
Oh I love sweet potatoes! I used to grow them in Idaho but we just don't have a warm enough summer season here in Washington! Do you eat the leaves too? I loved tossing them into salads 😋
@@RootedRevival I have never eaten the leaves before! Ooh new food to try. 🌞
There is an infinite amount of discussion about whether to "hill" potatoes or not and people seem to disagree. Especially in Danish forums I come across the discussion. We grow and eat a lot of potatoes. Some people say that potatoes only set tubers below and at the level of the original seed potato, some say it is wrong. I came across the distinction of determinate and indeterminate potatoes (I knew about the concept for tomatoes), and I literally cannot seem to find any information in Danish about the subject! Only for tomatoes. Quite interesting. The seed bags do not even have this information.
Have you ever planted potatoes that sprout that were purchased to eat? We have some that were in a recently purchased bag. It had a potato that had been half cut off in the bag & started rotting. Very stinky. So I washed the others off in the bag & am going to plant them when the weather gets warm here. The store did replace the bag when they were informed of the rotten potato. So it's worth a shot to plant the others that were with that rotten one.
I have! I actually relied on this entirely during the pandemic when I couldn't find seed potatoes to purchase. It can absolutely be successful. The one thing I am extra careful of is to plant them in containers since they aren't certified disease free. I wrote a full blog post on it - if you are interested, I'll link it below. (The variety I planted in the blog was an indeterminate russet so I did the soil layering technique)
rootedrevival.com/grow-store-bought-potatoes/
Wow, that’s good to know! 👍But oh dear, we have some English organic potatoes from Waitrose, variety unknown, that have sprouted eyes. Our son wants to grow them in a 10G growbag. And we have no idea if they are D or ID. So we have no idea when he plants them in Mid-March, whether to earth them later as time goes by, or if they will produce just once. Please can u advise what to do? Shall we bury once whole/hill them, regardless of whether they are D/ID? PS. This is so helpful. Have just subscribed!
Well I know this is 3 months old and so probably not helpful. I guess not knowing I would hill them and wait and see, if when they die back and dry up all you have is the one bunch of potatoes at the bottom of the bag well nothing lost, but if they are indeterminate then likely much gained.
I have been growing the Sevilla and Cammeo variety (bc of their disease resistance)but dont really know if they are determinate or indeterminate🤔 Anyone have any idea?
👍
Can you hill determinate? I accidentally grew both in the same bag!😩
You can hill them, they just will not produce more potatoes like the indeterminate variety will
Chickens can be so annoying lol just like mine when I’m trying to do something lol
I am sorry it makes no difference. I was a master gardener nd was taught this:
Does Determinate or Indeterminate Make a Difference In a Home Garden?
Whether you are growing determinate or indeterminate potatoes makes absolutely no difference in your garden
Both types of potatoes are grown the same, and they can benefit from planting in trenches and hilling. Also, all potatoes grow very well in the garden or in grow bags.
Great video, just not true. If you keep hilling potatoes they do not keep growing up unless you add new seed potatoes. There's early, mid and late potatoes nothing else.
Is there anyway to tell by the leaves if the plant is determinate vs indeterminate?