The content is quite accurate, but the video title is misleading to say the least. A smooth swing motion depends on an accordingly smooth follow through, so it is a key factor just like all others. Just because it is done wrong by many amateurs doesn't mean it's worthless.
However, not to force the follow through for sure but it gives you a sense or as an indicator of your technique. If you do your groundstrokes or serve properly, you shall have decent follow through naturally as a co sequence. There is a difference between ‘follow through’ and ‘finish’ I think ‘finish’ is the natural deceleration to avoid injury
@@EssentialTennis Exactly. The abrupt change in direction is putting forces on your students' arms in this video with no benefit to their shots. The very linear 1 hander is a tough situation since your elbow can't bend more in the direction of swing to decelerate so the only way to go is up.
Interesting video!! Agreed that it doesn’t change anything after contact. I wonder though if having a target swing path that includes the follow helps with getting to the point of contact correctly. Like how looking at a far object improves balance compared to looking at your feet. So the following thru really doesn’t matter, but the idea of it might help some with the incline angle of their swing…
If you strike the ball more vertical with the raquet face open and having your follow through going high above the shoulder, your ball will probably lift way up more or add more spin, if you hit more horizontal and if you close the raquet face enough your ball will be more straight, .... these follow through may change your ball path you can even finish doing a buggy whip giving more spin to the ball but you may loose in power or gain control, maybe doing the follow trough above the shoulder is because of the leverage you wanted to add from the starting position, players change their follow trough all the time, they may have a preference but I think everyone should experiment all kinds of follow through, maybe doing so you can have a safer shot above the net? Or you maybe thinking about the arm release? Is there study about this?
I think a better way to teach this is to teach them to have a natural follow through. Don't force it, but the way you hit the ball with topspin should have the ball finishing above your opposite pocket or above your shoulder. The racket should follow the path that the momentum takes it. However, the way you hit the ball properly should make that follow through natural. I think that is what most coaches and teachers fail to explain.
I think this time you are incorrect Ian, follow through is the most important part of the hitting, having following through or not has huge impact on the quality of the ball.
The follow through is not part of the hitting. It happens, by definition, after the ball has already been hit. It is an important indicator about what happened during the hit and can be used to diagnose flaws, but changing the follow through alone will not change the results of any shot.
@@18yearsoldnot I would have to agree with you here. the goal would be to continue through the path of the ball and keep the ball on the strings longer. This can only happen if you keep the follow through in mind.
Concentrating on the follow through was a simplistic way of teaching. We didn't really get all the info about the complexities of the strokes, but in reality, almost no beginner could understand or internalize them. Aiming for a certain takeback and follow through is something easier to understand for a beginner, and easier to achieve. Hopefully starting and finishing the stroke in a certain matter will create a proper swing path as a byproduct. I still tell myself to finish the swing next to my shoulder or above my shoulder, which just causes me to accelerate a bit more and to have a less flat path. The thing is to provide enough information to beginners without overcomplicating things, else they can get frustrated.
@@EssentialTennis I would say that 3.5s and up can benefit from more details about the swing. For anyone else who still needs to think about every little aspect of their game (e.g., positioning, grip, swing) it is mostly a waste of time.
MEP does hit topspin though when he's trying to hit topspin. There is no "fake follow-through" in his technique. He just doesn't hit with much power and obviously intentionally slices most of his shots.
@@EssentialTennis it doesn’t. Just looking for the video where you talk about I again. Was a great video and thought provoking. Am I trippin or did you not make a video on it recently?
Hey! This video is extremely long for the amount of idea bits you had to relay. Also no solution part. Just some sale-zy reference to your site. Not good pal
As a tennis and pickleball fan, I'm a little disappointed that you threw in those silly digs at PB. Just reinforces the usual snobby stereotype of tennis players and tennis culture as a whole.
If you have seen Ian’s video about tennis and pickle ball trends, you will know that he respects pickleball and pickleball players. His jabs in this video were clearly tongue-in-cheek and not meant to offend pickle ball fans.
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The content is quite accurate, but the video title is misleading to say the least.
A smooth swing motion depends on an accordingly smooth follow through, so it is a key factor just like all others.
Just because it is done wrong by many amateurs doesn't mean it's worthless.
You do address the value of follow through for decelerating which is critical to avoiding injury due to excessive violent braking with your arm.
Very true, it IS important for that reason, but forcing it's position defeats the purpose
However, not to force the follow through for sure but it gives you a sense or as an indicator of your technique. If you do your groundstrokes or serve properly, you shall have decent follow through naturally as a co sequence. There is a difference between ‘follow through’ and ‘finish’ I think ‘finish’ is the natural deceleration to avoid injury
@@EssentialTennis Exactly. The abrupt change in direction is putting forces on your students' arms in this video with no benefit to their shots. The very linear 1 hander is a tough situation since your elbow can't bend more in the direction of swing to decelerate so the only way to go is up.
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Interesting video!! Agreed that it doesn’t change anything after contact. I wonder though if having a target swing path that includes the follow helps with getting to the point of contact correctly. Like how looking at a far object improves balance compared to looking at your feet. So the following thru really doesn’t matter, but the idea of it might help some with the incline angle of their swing…
Have a great weekend Ian! 👍
Same to you, Javi!
This can't be said enough; this video can't be watched enough...and we just don't get enough of ET videos! :)
Great weekend Ian and team!
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Always appreciate your support!
@@EssentialTennis You bet.
Great great point, Ian.
Thanks for watching!
Great piece on something not understood by many players!
Thanks for watching!
It took me a while to crack that follow through will be different depending what we want to do with the ball!
If you strike the ball more vertical with the raquet face open and having your follow through going high above the shoulder, your ball will probably lift way up more or add more spin, if you hit more horizontal and if you close the raquet face enough your ball will be more straight, .... these follow through may change your ball path you can even finish doing a buggy whip giving more spin to the ball but you may loose in power or gain control, maybe doing the follow trough above the shoulder is because of the leverage you wanted to add from the starting position, players change their follow trough all the time, they may have a preference but I think everyone should experiment all kinds of follow through, maybe doing so you can have a safer shot above the net? Or you maybe thinking about the arm release? Is there study about this?
Great insight
I think a better way to teach this is to teach them to have a natural follow through. Don't force it, but the way you hit the ball with topspin should have the ball finishing above your opposite pocket or above your shoulder. The racket should follow the path that the momentum takes it. However, the way you hit the ball properly should make that follow through natural. I think that is what most coaches and teachers fail to explain.
MEP proves you can play smooth, beautiful, high-level tennis without focusing on your follow-through.
Very true
Define high level
@@FL3Xn You can look it up. Something like top 5%.
4.5 NTRP is top 10% of tennis players. Definitely "high level" in my opinion.
he wins because of his mental toughness. anyone "can" play like him
wow, were you able to make any correction to that forehand muscle memory
Try finishing down by your hip then try finishing above your shoulder. Then see what the difference is where the ball lands
I think this time you are incorrect Ian, follow through is the most important part of the hitting, having following through or not has huge impact on the quality of the ball.
The follow through is not part of the hitting. It happens, by definition, after the ball has already been hit. It is an important indicator about what happened during the hit and can be used to diagnose flaws, but changing the follow through alone will not change the results of any shot.
@@EssentialTennis no. It is very much part of throwing the racquet at the ball as opposed to pushing the ball
@@18yearsoldnot I would have to agree with you here. the goal would be to continue through the path of the ball and keep the ball on the strings longer. This can only happen if you keep the follow through in mind.
Concentrating on the follow through was a simplistic way of teaching. We didn't really get all the info about the complexities of the strokes, but in reality, almost no beginner could understand or internalize them.
Aiming for a certain takeback and follow through is something easier to understand for a beginner, and easier to achieve. Hopefully starting and finishing the stroke in a certain matter will create a proper swing path as a byproduct.
I still tell myself to finish the swing next to my shoulder or above my shoulder, which just causes me to accelerate a bit more and to have a less flat path.
The thing is to provide enough information to beginners without overcomplicating things, else they can get frustrated.
I agree when it comes to somebody completely new to the game. Total beginners make up a tiny percentage of people playing the sport, however.
@@EssentialTennis I would say that 3.5s and up can benefit from more details about the swing. For anyone else who still needs to think about every little aspect of their game (e.g., positioning, grip, swing) it is mostly a waste of time.
That's fair, thanks for leaving your thoughts!
that pickleball slander lol
What happened to the video about function vs aesthetics? Talking about MEP criticism
How does this video take away from the other one? I'm not following.
MEP does hit topspin though when he's trying to hit topspin. There is no "fake follow-through" in his technique. He just doesn't hit with much power and obviously intentionally slices most of his shots.
@@EssentialTennis it doesn’t, I just seriously can’t find the video:/
@@EssentialTennis it doesn’t. Just looking for the video where you talk about I again. Was a great video and thought provoking. Am I trippin or did you not make a video on it recently?
Wait, I always lean right and left while bowling. I feel called out. ;-)
Anyways, jokes aside: this video made so much sense. Great way to break it down.
Please squeeze as many digs at pickle ball as you possibly can they are like music to my ears
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Yea but the follow thru determines the rotational angle of your shoulders
I think you got your chicken and egg mixed up there 😉
So true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for watching!
Hey! This video is extremely long for the amount of idea bits you had to relay. Also no solution part. Just some sale-zy reference to your site. Not good pal
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As a tennis and pickleball fan, I'm a little disappointed that you threw in those silly digs at PB. Just reinforces the usual snobby stereotype of tennis players and tennis culture as a whole.
If you have seen Ian’s video about tennis and pickle ball trends, you will know that he respects pickleball and pickleball players. His jabs in this video were clearly tongue-in-cheek and not meant to offend pickle ball fans.