The only pepblem with mirage its the ramp up for clones, but it's incredible good now. Also is Tempest. Dont sleep on scrapper, this espec its super powerful and busted atm. I think rn Engineer is quite good in every spec. Scourge getting more hits its sad, but its still kicking. Overall nice patch.
As a Scrapper main, I wish Engineer had an inbetween condi build in terms of difficulty. You either have Suuuper braindead Condi Mech or Giga Brain Condi Holosmith.
I do wish Chronomancer could compete better with virtuoso and mirage, but even if it was buffed I'd just end up giving AoE Alacrity anyway out of choice. Feels too nice to be more generally useful
For Untamed: "Hard" and "Clunky" are 2 different things and Untamed is clunky thats why noone playing it in any competitive PVE encounter. Definitely not "S" for me. Doing high golem dps is not a point of argument if the spec is worse in every real fight scenario than all of the alternatives. Mirage is also one which is very niche but at least it is seen outside of golem room. Nice list besides these.
I think he says he's basing it off his assumptions and the most recent benchmarks which on snowcrows at least puts it at the single highest DPS parse atm. 1.2k dps ahead of second place Hammer Condi Weaver
Why would you make a category and not put a single class there, and why would you put almost every single class in a single category? Is there really that little difference between all of their damage that they all share one tier?
Because that's how it ended up, all specs have DPS builds now and they all do more than 40k DPS, Druid was a class that didn't had a DPS build and it would fit in that category, but now it does and it is really good, Renegade was also one that was a bad DPS some patches ago, but now it got better, so no spec fits in that tier but they did in the past 😉
I still feel my Reaper's DPS is still at par with most of my other DD characters. Maybe Ill try the condi build. Thank you for this list :)
The only pepblem with mirage its the ramp up for clones, but it's incredible good now. Also is Tempest.
Dont sleep on scrapper, this espec its super powerful and busted atm. I think rn Engineer is quite good in every spec. Scourge getting more hits its sad, but its still kicking.
Overall nice patch.
As a Scrapper main, I wish Engineer had an inbetween condi build in terms of difficulty. You either have Suuuper braindead Condi Mech or Giga Brain Condi Holosmith.
Can you share teh builds you are using? Pretty please! Build, weaps, armor, trinkets?
I do wish Chronomancer could compete better with virtuoso and mirage, but even if it was buffed I'd just end up giving AoE Alacrity anyway out of choice. Feels too nice to be more generally useful
Are we really playing the same game? I have a feeling that you are playing some other GW2
Finally someone speaking kindly to mirage
what exactly were the changes to mirage, i stopped playing around where they took 2nd dodge from us.
For Untamed: "Hard" and "Clunky" are 2 different things and Untamed is clunky thats why noone playing it in any competitive PVE encounter. Definitely not "S" for me. Doing high golem dps is not a point of argument if the spec is worse in every real fight scenario than all of the alternatives. Mirage is also one which is very niche but at least it is seen outside of golem room. Nice list besides these.
it's weird some video put Mirage at the most bottom DPS tier and this put at the top
It's because it got some huge buffs in the last patch
I think he says he's basing it off his assumptions and the most recent benchmarks which on snowcrows at least puts it at the single highest DPS parse atm. 1.2k dps ahead of second place Hammer Condi Weaver
Out of interest what Mirage build?
Lol yes man I need to see this build.
Sure, it's on the snowcrows website and here is the bench m.th-cam.com/video/lGcntsRuwYI/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_title
Why would you make a category and not put a single class there, and why would you put almost every single class in a single category? Is there really that little difference between all of their damage that they all share one tier?
Because that's how it ended up, all specs have DPS builds now and they all do more than 40k DPS, Druid was a class that didn't had a DPS build and it would fit in that category, but now it does and it is really good, Renegade was also one that was a bad DPS some patches ago, but now it got better, so no spec fits in that tier but they did in the past 😉
Rotation wise complexity tier list would be more wider range.
@coldwind8327 that is so true 😁
Is Virtuoso really good ? can be top dps?
yes
Everythink is S tier ?