I don't really blame Ivan for being so weird about his obsession with Till. He wasn't treated well by the aliens from the beginning and basically had no understanding of what constituted a healthy relationship. His only real glimpse of that was when he first met Till. He wanted to be free with him, but when Till rejects that, Ivan didn't know what to do anymore. Till refuses to really even look at him, and now that they're all in this death game, Ivan's desperate to cling onto anything he can get from Till. That's why he gets into fights with him and hurts him and licks his blood, he just wants Till to LOOK at him. He maintains that mindset even in Round 6 when he decides to sacrifice himself for Till. The last, genuine piece of love he gave to Till without hurting him or really demanding attention from him is that soft little kiss at the very end when he sees that his score is lower than Till and that Till's going to live and he's going to die. He's SUCH an interesting character.
EXACTLY it's also like why I can't super blame everyone on the show 'cause everyone was brought up differently and had different situations. They also have never seen a fellow human before (I think) prior to the garden so their reactions and decisions are genuine and unfiltered. Though it was pretty toxic, Ivan just did what he felt he had to do.
@@rubiirosie I think Ivan is actually kind and caring deep down . I don't think Ivan's evil either. Alot of people believe Ivan's a villian. I don't believe that to be the case. I think Ivan's misunderstood. His questionable behavior stems from the abuse he went through and is still going through , from childhood to adulthood from the aliens. Yes Ivan has a kinda twisted and weird way of showing his love for Till. But Ivan means well. All Ivan wanted to do was to protect and be close to Till because he's that in love with Till. Even if his actions are selfish , I understand it . Ivan's alot more sympathetic than people realize . I feel it's way too easy to write him off as a bad guy , when in reality Ivan's so much more than that . Ivan's not perfect , he's not a bad person either. He's just flawed and emotionally damaged by his past.
@@rubiirosie Plus there's nothing wrong with Ivan's gay feelings for Till. Ivan just could have expressed those feelings more properly to Till. Ivan dosen't know how to express his feelings to Till in a better way to fit our standards. I think I understand Ivan. There's a post on Vivinos channel going over more of Ivan's pov . I recommend reading into it.
Hmmm I still don't think that's an excuse for how he treated Till lmao def didn't make him like him. Also thought it was pretty selfish for him to kiss him right before he died in front of him. Like don't get me wrong if he would have treated him better I would have been really sad about it but it just felt like he was creep not that he was just a gay man in love.
@@cielhigh4401till does like ivan tho. they’re best friends and till rated him a 70% on the intimacy chart. like the original post said, ivan had trouble expressing his emotions because of the way he was brought up. i understand why you could see this just watching the videos alone but if you look at the art posted in the community tags and twitter you can see how complex their relationship actually is
2:06:24 Till was actually flipping everyone off in both scenes, but instead he does it with his index finger to represent ‘culture’ changing over time with aliens but still carrying some human ‘traditions’
@@lusiareyof6093 I ain't gonna lie, I've been an IvanxTill Stan since round 4 Black Sorrow. And round 6 destoryed me emotionally. The GAY ANGST is really strong in round 6. I just wanted Ivan to be happy and not die. I'm choosing to believe Ivan's alive for the sake of my mental sanity. Hopefully Ivan's alive. And hopefully Ivan succeeded in saving Till from the aliens.
@@woogusboogus9947 he has to live 🙏🙏 his alien owners were rich and the other aliens seemed hesitant when shooting him(missing him overall and his vital points) so maybe they don't want him dead (WISHFUL THINKING😭😭)
Hi, I know someone already commented that Ivan and Mizi's relationship was actually one of the better ones by Ivan's standard (considering Ivan & Sua are more gay on gay crime.. I adore them, while with Till he's so in love w him but also provoked him a lot to get his attention). We have cute interactions of Ivan's piggybacking Mizi and Mizi asking Ivan about a /forbidden/ word, Ivan was just OvO and told her to ask Sua and Till (to tease them, it made them flustered). But I also want to mention that my take of Ivan is he was not.. possessive. We got interactions of Till and Ivan sitting together and Till was like "what do I say to Mizi?" and Ivan was like "maybe just ask her what she likes???" Also more than jealousy of Till's affection to Mizi, he was more envious of Sua who he thought was in the same boat as him down to their twisted personality, but she had Mizi's affection in return. This results in his pettiness and him calling Sua selfish for planning to die for Mizi when she knew she would became a trauma to her. But in his last thought, he thought he should've been nicer when he ended up the same (sacrificing himself for Till). Though he still thinks he was better than her because Till doesn't care for him much. His last, last thought was "Thank you for being a victim to my shallow emotions" ... he really did not understand how emotions work because none of what he possessed were shallow but I can't blame him considering their circumstances. Another thing is I don't think Till's feelings for Ivan is that simple. I can discern two: 1) his guilt, shown in how he averts his eyes when Ivan sat next to him at lunch and literally swiped his bloody wound to lick it. of what? probably their near escape where he went back because he can't stand the thought of leaving behind Mizi in that hellhole. 2) his care, shown in how he was hurt in a comic where Ivan (emotionally stunted) implied he does not see Till as a friend (by indirectly calling him a friendless loser) and with how he never called out Ivan's many attempts of stealing and returning his things to get his attention until their graduation where his message to Ivan was like "I know it was you who took my pencil" (he knew it was him all along, and he didn't even call out Ivan stealing the flute Mizi gave him). Ivan didn't notice this though because he only saw reiprocation (not even romantic ones) as being like Mizi and Sua. And until now we never got Till's POV on any of their interaction in main storyline (what did he think when Ivan freed him, when he took his hands and smile brightly under the meteor shower when they almost escape? what did he think afterwards when Ivan followed him back to captivity? what did he think about his collars that keep breaking when he was passed out?) Of course Ivan was also not all good because, again, they really live in the worst universe possible. Child Ivan did try to see what Mizi and Till would do if he got that guard dog to go after them, him seeing Till defend Mizi was what really set off his infatuation for Till in my opinion (shown in Black Sorrow where the scene of Till trying to get up and fight the dog was like falling stars in Ivan's eyes). Speaking of falling stars: the "until these falling stars are buried in the blur of time" line in Cure was Till's and not Ivan's. Just interesting thing I noticed. Anyway I really enjoyed your reaction! Watched all 3 hours of the vod and love the details you noticed and your thoughts! Thank you for getting into Alien Stage
2:24:40 Probably Hyuna did that in defense of Luka. It wouldn't really make sense for him to push Hyuna's brother and then fall back in blood? It's more probable that Luka provoked the brother (something we saw him do a lot, even in VIVINOS community tabs, where Luka provokes him, he bites back and Hyuna is there to punish her brother ig?), probably fought and then hyuna stepped in and pushed the brother, and so he bumped his head on the rock. It really would not make sense for Luka to be in a fetal position bleeding. BUT HYUNA is in the perfect position to have pushed Hyun woo onto the rock! She’s literally right infront of him!! Not to mention the way Hyuna looked in this moment always striked me as weird. Like while she looks shocked, she also looks uncomfortable and almost guilty... (Yeah, im a luka fan)
Also going off of what you said Luka looks smaller than most of the kids in the garden. He was already not the most healthy so Hyuna could have seen her brother hitting him as something he shouldn't be doing since Luka was already weak and so she tried to stop him which killed him. When Luka is seen smiling It's because Hyuna defended him from her brother whom he knows she loves dearly so when he looks up and stops smiling I feel like he's looking at Hyuna's dead brother, not his fingers like everyone claims. He's been sick for as long as he can remember so why would seeing his fingers turn blue be something new? In the earlier shots his skin is slightly blue so wouldn't it be more possible for him to be more surprised that Hyuna killed her brother? rather than his illness acting up?
personally not a luka fan due to his behaviour in round 3(?), but i could see this being the case still. could still be that hyuna pushed luka after him pushing her brother, but i won’t rule anything out
Thank you for your reaction ✨✨✨ The only thing I want to say is that Ivan and Mizi were actually friends and he definitely wouldn't hurt her TT They have a lot of cute interactions in the mini comics >
@@rubiirosie Funny thing is I already knew Ivan was gay for Till since Black Sorrow based on body language alone. The way Ivan looks at Till is how Till looks at Mizi . It's sad how one sided it was. Idk what Till is thinking . Idk how Till feels about Ivan now after everything that went down in round 6 . All I know is that Till hasn't gotten over Mizi .
@@rubiirosie Not blaming Till btw. It's not his fault . It's just unfortunate Till never knew Ivan loved him romantically. The irony is that Ivan loved Till the most . Till is Ivan's light and purpose in the world . Till is Ivan's whole world . Till was sad Mizi never gave him love back and wasn't there, yet Ivan was there all along . It's tragic honestly. I'm wondering if they were saved in time, would things be any different between Till and Ivan? Till was seen as unwanted and rebellious by the aliens. Yet he was wanted by Ivan. Ivan loved Till's rebellious nature. Ivan loved Till's determination and fighting spirt . That's one of the many reasons Ivan fell for Till. Even when Till hurts Ivan by his behavior, Ivan wouldn't want it any other way. I think seeing Till defeated and destoryed hurt Ivan the most. Ivan's always trying to save Till and free him from his chains . And he did just that in round 6. I'm sobbing .
2:31:49 The look of concern on Ivans face when finding Till disheveled shows how much Ivan cares about Till. The way Ivan creased Tills face and hugged him also shows Ivan's love for Till. Even though we don't have dialog the body language says it all .
@Rubiirosie I think Ivan was trying to save Till. Ivan put an act of pretending to hurt Till to get disqualified and to ensure Till won and got out of there. Ivan looks back at the score board when doing this . Which in my mind indicates Ivan prepared for the worse case scenario. If everything fell apart and Till stopped singing , Ivan's other option I think was to give his life to Till. I think not singing is a death wish . And I believe Ivan knew this. Ivan planned on helping Till and saving him. Ivan most likely initially planned for them to escape together again but when everything went down hill, Ivan saw there was no other choice but sacrifice himself. I think the kiss was genuine though from Ivan's part. I think Ivan wanted his feelings to reach Till. Even though it's selfish, I understand why .
Such a crazy reaction with all the theories, it is honestly so great... I dont think I saw someone to ever be so interested in ALNST while reacting(idk how i describe it but??? You seem so geniunly interested??) Also waiting forward to the MILGRAM reaction, even though it would be hours probably! (sorry if there's mistakes, im not native)
It really caught my interest 'cause it hit home with my past experiences + the fact that I really like Kpop survival shows & dystopian stories! Thank you so much for finding my reaction great ^-^ I'll try to find a way to do a brief reaction to MILGRAM soon I really am curious to know why they're so popular among my friends (and no worries! You speak so well)
I LOVED YOUR REACTIONS !! I hate that in Round 6, at the karaoke scene, Till is being forced to sing My Clematis 😭 it's a bit hard to read it but the lyrics are at the screen behind him
GIRL THIS WAS AMAZING,,, getting to spend three hours watching back to back alnst content is sooo 😭 agh like just a week ago i could have never imagined content like this being made. and thank you for all of your input. like, the alnst iceberg runs so painfully deep, so us long-term fans sort of have this, like, bias due to the lore? like i’ve noticed that our long-running beliefs and assumptions of things tend to get in the way of noticing new details. but getting to hear the viewpoint of someone who is new to the series is so refreshing. many new fans have been pointing out things that previous fans never considered!!! so i really really loved this stream!! welcome to the community 🥲🫶
NAUR IT'S OKAY NO WORRIES I LOVE YOUR COMMENT!!! I'm glad that I could give a new perspective into the lore 'cause there is a lot of things going on that's both hard and easy to miss. I love how long term fans were able to point things out to me as well 'cause it made me feel welcomed into the fandom and I definitely would've never figured it out without it. Thank you for welcoming me into the community I can't wait to watch more of the doomed ships HAHAH
@@nanny_uhh thats the period between any of the videos/content not just the rounds. round 3 was begining of 2023 it was just that one and round 5, so basicaly 2 rounds in a year + bonus content new songs covers and etc. i have high hopes round 7 will be in next 2-3 months
another victim to the alien stage 😊😊 we are sane !!! One of us, one of us !! Welcome to hell, we will never escape this eternal doom and terror and trauma.
Ivan isn't sadistic just REALLY obsessive, him being happy while they were fighting was him being happy till was giving him any sort of attention, if you notice in all of the shots even tho ivan is right next to till, till pretty much never is paying attention to him. I think ivan also tried to break them out on his song but Till went back, bascially rejection.
I have a theory that Hyuna killed her brother accidentally? My theory has more depth but to sum it up, argument (considering we knew how Luka was more frail with his sickly appearance, Hyuna was on his side.) Accidental push which is why Hyuna looked more horrified, but not towards Luka? She didn’t have a hostile hold against Luka necessarily at the end of round 5. Luka looked thrilled by what Hyuna “did for him” (if my theory is correct). I read online that someone said during a stream it was confirmed Luka’s hand condition allowed him to control his heart rate? That could explain why his hand was fading purple during the clip-to control his heart rate from ecstasy he felt once he saw the actions done by Hyuna “for him”
this came out ages ago so im sure youre not gonna see this, or already know this, but as a Luka defender I gotta talk abt this anyways. I genuinely doubt Luka signed up for alnst again. We clearly see him hating everything abt his life, I believe that he was forced to join, seeing as he's like everyones fav there.
When you talked about E-net it really made me think of a manhwa/novel called debut or die. There's also a Tnet survival show company like that. Damn, now I know where the roots are.
I saw a theory that Luca was actually trying to get Mizi to fight him so she could be taken and escape. I highly doubt he would need to use manipulation to win, especially since he was a past winner of ALNST and had a huge fanbase. You can also see that Mizi doesn't sing or is struggling to, which could be because she wants to lose and die to be with her lover, Sua. I think he riles her up to get her to fight and live to get her to be saved by Hyuna. This is basically the lines of someone elses theory, but I thought it was a really interesting one.
i agree, he was definitely riling her up on purpose after watching her grieve over sua, but DEFINITELY not to get an "easy win"- he already has one. the entire stage was lit up for him, he didnt have to do anything. i think he did that to provoke hyuna to show up (he knew of the resistance and wanted to see her again, but theyre not allied).
as much as i love ivan every time i watch the kiss scene im literally going "GET AWAY FROM HIM!!" in my mind bc like till was PUSHING HIM OFFFF like ivantill canon but i wish it wasnt then
I think Ivan may be alive (half in denial and half seriously xd) I have several reasons, first with something that I think is strange and that is that it is the first time they show us the body of the loser, with Sua for example they only showed us the pool of blood, not his body as clearly as Ivan's or anything with the rest, they never showed us the loser's body so clearly. Another thing was the shots. Why not kill Ivan with a shot to the head and shoot him as many times? Ivan also seems to be important to the aliens. On another note, it seems like Till is crying in the final scene, if you look closely there seem to be larger drops falling on his shoes so they don't seem to be raindrops.
Lol I wonder why it took 3 hours, It turns out that you was explaining to chat again and again and chat talking about irrelevant topics instead of the video.😅
Gotta interact with chat as much as possible because they're watching to be entertained~ I may trim this down to a highlights video when I have the time
I don't really blame Ivan for being so weird about his obsession with Till. He wasn't treated well by the aliens from the beginning and basically had no understanding of what constituted a healthy relationship. His only real glimpse of that was when he first met Till. He wanted to be free with him, but when Till rejects that, Ivan didn't know what to do anymore. Till refuses to really even look at him, and now that they're all in this death game, Ivan's desperate to cling onto anything he can get from Till. That's why he gets into fights with him and hurts him and licks his blood, he just wants Till to LOOK at him. He maintains that mindset even in Round 6 when he decides to sacrifice himself for Till. The last, genuine piece of love he gave to Till without hurting him or really demanding attention from him is that soft little kiss at the very end when he sees that his score is lower than Till and that Till's going to live and he's going to die. He's SUCH an interesting character.
EXACTLY it's also like why I can't super blame everyone on the show 'cause everyone was brought up differently and had different situations. They also have never seen a fellow human before (I think) prior to the garden so their reactions and decisions are genuine and unfiltered. Though it was pretty toxic, Ivan just did what he felt he had to do.
@@rubiirosie
I think Ivan is actually kind and caring deep down . I don't think Ivan's evil either. Alot of people believe Ivan's a villian. I don't believe that to be the case. I think Ivan's misunderstood. His questionable behavior stems from the abuse he went through and is still going through , from childhood to adulthood from the aliens. Yes Ivan has a kinda twisted and weird way of showing his love for Till. But Ivan means well. All Ivan wanted to do was to protect and be close to Till because he's that in love with Till. Even if his actions are selfish , I understand it . Ivan's alot more sympathetic than people realize . I feel it's way too easy to write him off as a bad guy , when in reality Ivan's so much more than that . Ivan's not perfect , he's not a bad person either. He's just flawed and emotionally damaged by his past.
@@rubiirosie
Plus there's nothing wrong with Ivan's gay feelings for Till. Ivan just could have expressed those feelings more properly to Till. Ivan dosen't know how to express his feelings to Till in a better way to fit our standards. I think I understand Ivan. There's a post on Vivinos channel going over more of Ivan's pov . I recommend reading into it.
Hmmm I still don't think that's an excuse for how he treated Till lmao def didn't make him like him. Also thought it was pretty selfish for him to kiss him right before he died in front of him. Like don't get me wrong if he would have treated him better I would have been really sad about it but it just felt like he was creep not that he was just a gay man in love.
@@cielhigh4401till does like ivan tho. they’re best friends and till rated him a 70% on the intimacy chart. like the original post said, ivan had trouble expressing his emotions because of the way he was brought up. i understand why you could see this just watching the videos alone but if you look at the art posted in the community tags and twitter you can see how complex their relationship actually is
2:06:24 Till was actually flipping everyone off in both scenes, but instead he does it with his index finger to represent ‘culture’ changing over time with aliens but still carrying some human ‘traditions’
OOOOH that does make sense true!!
@@rubiirosie :)
till looks at ivan first which is devastating. they show him staring out to ivan when they were children before ivan looks back at him.
This hurts so much huhuhu
there are too many ivantill stans in the fandom, where are the mizisua truthers, vivino fandom rise up!!!
MIZISUA DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER HUHUHU
no need for mizisua truthers when theyre real, we need more mizisua stans‼️‼️
I think there's more ivantill stans because they were both alive until round 6 lmao
@@lusiareyof6093
I .. I just wanted a happy gay ending . I feel called out .😅
@@lusiareyof6093
I ain't gonna lie, I've been an IvanxTill Stan since round 4 Black Sorrow. And round 6 destoryed me emotionally. The GAY ANGST is really strong in round 6. I just wanted Ivan to be happy and not die. I'm choosing to believe Ivan's alive for the sake of my mental sanity. Hopefully Ivan's alive. And hopefully Ivan succeeded in saving Till from the aliens.
Ivan was my favorite omfg
"was" 😭😭rip
@@Cali_wcGacha He's alive he's totally alive (I'm delusional 😭😭)
@@woogusboogus9947 he has to live 🙏🙏 his alien owners were rich and the other aliens seemed hesitant when shooting him(missing him overall and his vital points) so maybe they don't want him dead (WISHFUL THINKING😭😭)
Was? Still !!!
He's not dead, I know it. I was Till's microphone and I saw that he was still alive!! (I'm on the verge of jumping off a bridge)🙏🙏🕯
Ivan shall live he should live we must believe
Hi, I know someone already commented that Ivan and Mizi's relationship was actually one of the better ones by Ivan's standard (considering Ivan & Sua are more gay on gay crime.. I adore them, while with Till he's so in love w him but also provoked him a lot to get his attention). We have cute interactions of Ivan's piggybacking Mizi and Mizi asking Ivan about a /forbidden/ word, Ivan was just OvO and told her to ask Sua and Till (to tease them, it made them flustered).
But I also want to mention that my take of Ivan is he was not.. possessive. We got interactions of Till and Ivan sitting together and Till was like "what do I say to Mizi?" and Ivan was like "maybe just ask her what she likes???"
Also more than jealousy of Till's affection to Mizi, he was more envious of Sua who he thought was in the same boat as him down to their twisted personality, but she had Mizi's affection in return.
This results in his pettiness and him calling Sua selfish for planning to die for Mizi when she knew she would became a trauma to her. But in his last thought, he thought he should've been nicer when he ended up the same (sacrificing himself for Till). Though he still thinks he was better than her because Till doesn't care for him much. His last, last thought was "Thank you for being a victim to my shallow emotions" ... he really did not understand how emotions work because none of what he possessed were shallow but I can't blame him considering their circumstances.
Another thing is I don't think Till's feelings for Ivan is that simple. I can discern two: 1) his guilt, shown in how he averts his eyes when Ivan sat next to him at lunch and literally swiped his bloody wound to lick it. of what? probably their near escape where he went back because he can't stand the thought of leaving behind Mizi in that hellhole. 2) his care, shown in how he was hurt in a comic where Ivan (emotionally stunted) implied he does not see Till as a friend (by indirectly calling him a friendless loser) and with how he never called out Ivan's many attempts of stealing and returning his things to get his attention until their graduation where his message to Ivan was like "I know it was you who took my pencil" (he knew it was him all along, and he didn't even call out Ivan stealing the flute Mizi gave him). Ivan didn't notice this though because he only saw reiprocation (not even romantic ones) as being like Mizi and Sua.
And until now we never got Till's POV on any of their interaction in main storyline (what did he think when Ivan freed him, when he took his hands and smile brightly under the meteor shower when they almost escape? what did he think afterwards when Ivan followed him back to captivity? what did he think about his collars that keep breaking when he was passed out?)
Of course Ivan was also not all good because, again, they really live in the worst universe possible. Child Ivan did try to see what Mizi and Till would do if he got that guard dog to go after them, him seeing Till defend Mizi was what really set off his infatuation for Till in my opinion (shown in Black Sorrow where the scene of Till trying to get up and fight the dog was like falling stars in Ivan's eyes).
Speaking of falling stars: the "until these falling stars are buried in the blur of time" line in Cure was Till's and not Ivan's. Just interesting thing I noticed.
Anyway I really enjoyed your reaction! Watched all 3 hours of the vod and love the details you noticed and your thoughts! Thank you for getting into Alien Stage
2:24:40 Probably Hyuna did that in defense of Luka. It wouldn't really make sense for him to push Hyuna's brother and then fall back in blood? It's more probable that Luka provoked the brother (something we saw him do a lot, even in VIVINOS community tabs, where Luka provokes him, he bites back and Hyuna is there to punish her brother ig?), probably fought and then hyuna stepped in and pushed the brother, and so he bumped his head on the rock. It really would not make sense for Luka to be in a fetal position bleeding. BUT HYUNA is in the perfect position to have pushed Hyun woo onto the rock! She’s literally right infront of him!! Not to mention the way Hyuna looked in this moment always striked me as weird. Like while she looks shocked, she also looks uncomfortable and almost guilty... (Yeah, im a luka fan)
just a personal thought, especially because in the first ALIEN STAGE video Hyuna seemed to be haunted by her brother :0
@@luculias YO THAT DOES MAKE SENSE THO dang I really wanna delve into Hyuna's backstory more!
Also going off of what you said Luka looks smaller than most of the kids in the garden. He was already not the most healthy so Hyuna could have seen her brother hitting him as something he shouldn't be doing since Luka was already weak and so she tried to stop him which killed him. When Luka is seen smiling It's because Hyuna defended him from her brother whom he knows she loves dearly so when he looks up and stops smiling I feel like he's looking at Hyuna's dead brother, not his fingers like everyone claims. He's been sick for as long as he can remember so why would seeing his fingers turn blue be something new? In the earlier shots his skin is slightly blue so wouldn't it be more possible for him to be more surprised that Hyuna killed her brother? rather than his illness acting up?
@@Nymphidblue
That is interesting. I never thought of it that way. Loving all the theories here .
personally not a luka fan due to his behaviour in round 3(?), but i could see this being the case still. could still be that hyuna pushed luka after him pushing her brother, but i won’t rule anything out
Thank you for your reaction ✨✨✨
The only thing I want to say is that Ivan and Mizi were actually friends and he definitely wouldn't hurt her TT
They have a lot of cute interactions in the mini comics >
Thank you for watching! I really have to check out the mini comics and other material now 'cause I feel like I'm missing out on so much.
Wait, mini-comics? Where I can find it?😮
WELCOME NEW ALIEN STAGER
HELLO THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING ME I'M HERE FOR THE DOOMED SHIPPING
@@rubiirosie
Funny thing is I already knew Ivan was gay for Till since Black Sorrow based on body language alone. The way Ivan looks at Till is how Till looks at Mizi . It's sad how one sided it was. Idk what Till is thinking . Idk how Till feels about Ivan now after everything that went down in round 6 . All I know is that Till hasn't gotten over Mizi .
@@rubiirosie
Not blaming Till btw. It's not his fault . It's just unfortunate Till never knew Ivan loved him romantically. The irony is that Ivan loved Till the most . Till is Ivan's light and purpose in the world . Till is Ivan's whole world . Till was sad Mizi never gave him love back and wasn't there, yet Ivan was there all along . It's tragic honestly. I'm wondering if they were saved in time, would things be any different between Till and Ivan? Till was seen as unwanted and rebellious by the aliens. Yet he was wanted by Ivan. Ivan loved Till's rebellious nature. Ivan loved Till's determination and fighting spirt . That's one of the many reasons Ivan fell for Till. Even when Till hurts Ivan by his behavior, Ivan wouldn't want it any other way. I think seeing Till defeated and destoryed hurt Ivan the most. Ivan's always trying to save Till and free him from his chains . And he did just that in round 6. I'm sobbing .
2:31:49
The look of concern on Ivans face when finding Till disheveled shows how much Ivan cares about Till. The way Ivan creased Tills face and hugged him also shows Ivan's love for Till. Even though we don't have dialog the body language says it all .
@Rubiirosie
I think Ivan was trying to save Till. Ivan put an act of pretending to hurt Till to get disqualified and to ensure Till won and got out of there. Ivan looks back at the score board when doing this . Which in my mind indicates Ivan prepared for the worse case scenario. If everything fell apart and Till stopped singing , Ivan's other option I think was to give his life to Till. I think not singing is a death wish . And I believe Ivan knew this. Ivan planned on helping Till and saving him. Ivan most likely initially planned for them to escape together again but when everything went down hill, Ivan saw there was no other choice but sacrifice himself. I think the kiss was genuine though from Ivan's part. I think Ivan wanted his feelings to reach Till. Even though it's selfish, I understand why .
Such a crazy reaction with all the theories, it is honestly so great... I dont think I saw someone to ever be so interested in ALNST while reacting(idk how i describe it but??? You seem so geniunly interested??)
Also waiting forward to the MILGRAM reaction, even though it would be hours probably!
(sorry if there's mistakes, im not native)
It really caught my interest 'cause it hit home with my past experiences + the fact that I really like Kpop survival shows & dystopian stories! Thank you so much for finding my reaction great ^-^ I'll try to find a way to do a brief reaction to MILGRAM soon I really am curious to know why they're so popular among my friends (and no worries! You speak so well)
TY ROUND 6 FOR MAKING ALIEN STAGE MORE POPULAR NOW I DONR HAVE TO LIVE OF CRUMBS❤❤❤❤
ROUND 6 REALLY POPPED OFF
I LOVED YOUR REACTIONS !! I hate that in Round 6, at the karaoke scene, Till is being forced to sing My Clematis 😭 it's a bit hard to read it but the lyrics are at the screen behind him
SINGING MY CLEMATIS AFTER WHAT HAPPENED TO MIZI HURTS HUHUHU Thank you for enjoying the reaction stream!
GIRL THIS WAS AMAZING,,, getting to spend three hours watching back to back alnst content is sooo 😭 agh like just a week ago i could have never imagined content like this being made. and thank you for all of your input. like, the alnst iceberg runs so painfully deep, so us long-term fans sort of have this, like, bias due to the lore? like i’ve noticed that our long-running beliefs and assumptions of things tend to get in the way of noticing new details. but getting to hear the viewpoint of someone who is new to the series is so refreshing. many new fans have been pointing out things that previous fans never considered!!! so i really really loved this stream!! welcome to the community 🥲🫶
NOOOO I TYPED AN ESSAY IM SORRY 😭😭😭
NAUR IT'S OKAY NO WORRIES I LOVE YOUR COMMENT!!! I'm glad that I could give a new perspective into the lore 'cause there is a lot of things going on that's both hard and easy to miss. I love how long term fans were able to point things out to me as well 'cause it made me feel welcomed into the fandom and I definitely would've never figured it out without it. Thank you for welcoming me into the community I can't wait to watch more of the doomed ships HAHAH
Your vtuber model is really cute!
Thank you so much!!!
I'm with you idk how these ppl can wait 3 months for each episode WHY DID I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT ALNSTG WHEN JTS NOT DONE YET
I FEEL U MAN LIKE WE GOTTA JOIN THE WAITING GAME
3 months? It started in like 2022 and it is still only in the Round 6 😂😂😭😭😭
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@@nanny_uhh thats the period between any of the videos/content not just the rounds. round 3 was begining of 2023 it was just that one and round 5, so basicaly 2 rounds in a year + bonus content new songs covers and etc. i have high hopes round 7 will be in next 2-3 months
@@fufu-jh Oh yeah, right
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idk if someone already explained but Luka didn't want to do it again, he was enrolled again by his owner like everyone else.
ANOTHER ALIEN STAGE FAN YAYY
YE super new but I'm definitely enjoying the crumbs!
NEW ALIEN STAGE REACTIONS YEAHHHHHH 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
WAAAH THANK YOU FOR WATCHING
@@rubiirosie I WAS SO EXCITED 😂 THIS IS AWESOME
@@rubiirosiethank you for reacting to alien stage!! Welcome to the fandom
The only thing keeping me mentally sane is the actor aus vivinos and the fandom gives me 😭😭
IVAN STLL LIVES 🗣‼️‼️‼️‼️
ACTOR AU SHOULD BE CANON FOR OUR HEARTS' SAKE
another victim to the alien stage 😊😊 we are sane !!! One of us, one of us !! Welcome to hell, we will never escape this eternal doom and terror and trauma.
*the flames of Alien Stage burning everything around me* this is fine :3
YAAAAY, NEW ALIEN STAGE FAN, NEW REACTION TO ALL ROUNDS, I'M SO HAPPY, LET'S GO PAIN! :')
THE PAIN IS WORTH IT
I recommend you to read the comment section because many people notice interesting details which made me want to cry (bad english)
I'll deep dive into the comments of the videos when I can 'cause I probably missed on a lot on first view
Thanks for reaction Alien Stage, so great. Ivan was my fav char too
Thank you so much for watching!!!
Ivan :'( gracias por la reacción
Gracias! ^-^
yeah.... im pretty sure you're correct, its implied till was SA'd by the aliens which is rlly gross
Ivan isn't sadistic just REALLY obsessive, him being happy while they were fighting was him being happy till was giving him any sort of attention, if you notice in all of the shots even tho ivan is right next to till, till pretty much never is paying attention to him. I think ivan also tried to break them out on his song but Till went back, bascially rejection.
I have a theory that Hyuna killed her brother accidentally? My theory has more depth but to sum it up, argument (considering we knew how Luka was more frail with his sickly appearance, Hyuna was on his side.) Accidental push which is why Hyuna looked more horrified, but not towards Luka? She didn’t have a hostile hold against Luka necessarily at the end of round 5. Luka looked thrilled by what Hyuna “did for him” (if my theory is correct). I read online that someone said during a stream it was confirmed Luka’s hand condition allowed him to control his heart rate? That could explain why his hand was fading purple during the clip-to control his heart rate from ecstasy he felt once he saw the actions done by Hyuna “for him”
Its just Ivan being: „you can live without me, but I can’t live without you“
AGH! YES! FOINALLY! MORE ALIEN STAGE WATCHERS! TYSM! We're hoping the fandom can grow and get more exposure! XD
Honestly it really deserves more recognition! It's very well made and the mystery behind it is just *chef's kiss*
I can't believe i watched this 3 hour video😭
I'm thankful you watched it tho!
im scared for the next part. i love both Luka and Till(cant forget Ivan too, he WAS my fav)
Came just for alien stage, stayed because you seem super silly! Im honestly suprised you arent more popular lol
(I only saw this now omg) Thank you! That really means a lot!
the ACTORS AU being a cannon au is the only way we ALNST fans cope
this came out ages ago so im sure youre not gonna see this, or already know this, but as a Luka defender I gotta talk abt this anyways. I genuinely doubt Luka signed up for alnst again. We clearly see him hating everything abt his life, I believe that he was forced to join, seeing as he's like everyones fav there.
When you talked about E-net it really made me think of a manhwa/novel called debut or die. There's also a Tnet survival show company like that. Damn, now I know where the roots are.
Luka my beloved they could never make me hate you
I saw a theory that Luca was actually trying to get Mizi to fight him so she could be taken and escape. I highly doubt he would need to use manipulation to win, especially since he was a past winner of ALNST and had a huge fanbase. You can also see that Mizi doesn't sing or is struggling to, which could be because she wants to lose and die to be with her lover, Sua. I think he riles her up to get her to fight and live to get her to be saved by Hyuna. This is basically the lines of someone elses theory, but I thought it was a really interesting one.
i agree, he was definitely riling her up on purpose after watching her grieve over sua, but DEFINITELY not to get an "easy win"- he already has one. the entire stage was lit up for him, he didnt have to do anything. i think he did that to provoke hyuna to show up (he knew of the resistance and wanted to see her again, but theyre not allied).
as much as i love ivan every time i watch the kiss scene im literally going "GET AWAY FROM HIM!!" in my mind bc like till was PUSHING HIM OFFFF like ivantill canon but i wish it wasnt then
My IvanTill!!! 💔
IVANTILL DESERVED BETTER HUHUHU
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TRUE. It's hurts. Vivinos never let's the gays be happy or have a happy ending . Time to make IvanTill art to cope .
Omg ur from Philippines too❤
MY EXACT REACTION ON ROUND 6 LMAOOOOOOO
ROUND 6 WAS WILD
I think Ivan may be alive (half in denial and half seriously xd) I have several reasons, first with something that I think is strange and that is that it is the first time they show us the body of the loser, with Sua for example they only showed us the pool of blood, not his body as clearly as Ivan's or anything with the rest, they never showed us the loser's body so clearly. Another thing was the shots. Why not kill Ivan with a shot to the head and shoot him as many times? Ivan also seems to be important to the aliens.
On another note, it seems like Till is crying in the final scene, if you look closely there seem to be larger drops falling on his shoes so they don't seem to be raindrops.
I was shocked when you started speaking Filipino/Tagalog lol 😂
6 months late but luka being called a straight male is a lil funny considering he nosebled because of catboy till in an official art
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This is my first time seeing your channel, are you filipino??
Yes I am! ^-^
not a big fan of the people in the chat spoiling it for you
IvanTill nation is dead now. Some have contracted delulu and denial syndrome.
Ivan 😭🛐
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Welcome to the fandom. Where everyone is allergic to happines 🙂... Btw filipino ka ba?
Trueee HAHA And yes pinoy po ako hehe
2:29:17 The moment I saw this, I started shedding tears 😭
Lol I wonder why it took 3 hours, It turns out that you was explaining to chat again and again and chat talking about irrelevant topics instead of the video.😅
Gotta interact with chat as much as possible because they're watching to be entertained~ I may trim this down to a highlights video when I have the time
Chat was very helpful in filling in some blanks though since this was when I was new to the whole Alien Stage lore
You talk a lot.
Thank you I guess? Hahaha gotta keep everyone entertained
@@rubiirosie Thank you for that 🙏🏻🗣️
thats the point when you are invested in something
2:43:29 he is not taking advantage at all, he knows very well what happened to Till there u.u the little nuzle after that is a proof
THISJ!!!!@@!