How Britain Starved Ireland
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- The untold story of Ireland’s worst tragedy.
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A bit like how YOU conquered the continent of America, no?
Thank you for your racism.
Take the down the Ukraine video
Imagine if 1830 Ireland went back in time to 600 BCE
Irish Empire and Iron Age Industrial Revolution!
What happened in Ireland was simply a failure of insufficient agricultural policy. The free market did its job, and did it well. When a population is not capable of making the difficult choices they must to continue to thrive, the free market enacts population control. This is a good thing when you think about it. Less white people = less carbon output.
As an actual Irish person I would like to thank the Native Americans who gave what little they had to help my people
It blew my mind to hear there was a connection between them and yourselves. Who would have thought??? But the Native communities know more than they ever wanted about cruel imperialism and being dehumanized as a subject people- and their communities being historically based on humane values they would have the empathy for a suffering people- so I'm not surprised. The fact the Choctaws and perhaps others reached out even when they themselves were barely surviving the US's violence, treachery, and food problems of their own is amazing to me- and over 150 years later some Irish descendants returned the favor, meaning somewhere a record of it was preserved?? My mind is blown.
@Zentosi proubly
And someday I hope to bring Koyukon Athabascan son from Alaska to Ireland (great grandparents full Irish) to visit and especially that steel basket of feathers to honor Choctow’s gift
An actual Irish as opposed to all these american gobshites claiming to be Irish.
Plastic Paddies aye.
The ottomans had given financial aid to Ireland during this terrible time. The sultan had sent ships full off food in secret so that the British may not find them. The ottomans left the food at Drogheda harbour for the Irish.
May they, also, be remembered for their kindness. Thanks for bringing this up, it is worth noting indeed.
Its important to note that during this time britain was debating blocking the whole of the ottoman empire to pressure them into ending slavery (like it did to brazil) and this move by the sultan was one it could gain leverage over Westminster
@Nachos Andcheese And then admit to a few genocides
Sultan Abdul Majeed in 1847 personally offered £10,000 in aid to Ireland, but he would have to scale back his generosity. British diplomats advised him that it would be offensive for anyone to offer more than Queen Victoria, who had only donated £2,000. It was suggested that he should donate half of that amount, so he gave £1,000.
The Sultan's donation was appreciated by the public in Britain and Ireland as well.
One English religious journal published an article titled "A Benevolent Sultan" in which the author wrote,
"For the first time a Mohammedan sovereign, representing multitudinous Islamic populations, manifests spontaneously a warm sympathy with a Christian nation. May such sympathies, in all the genial charities of a common humanity, be cultivated and henceforth ever be maintained between the followers of the crescent and the cross!"
The press also blamed the British diplomats in Constantinople for rejecting the initial donation of £10,000 just to avoid embarrassing Queen Victoria.
Meanwhile, Sultan Abdul Majeed had found other ways to help.
Today, the port town of Drogheda in Ireland includes a crescent and a star, both of which are symbols of Islam, in its coat of arms. Local tradition in the town has it that these symbols were adopted after the Ottoman Empire secretly sent five ships loaded with food to the town in May 1847.
The reason for the secrecy is that the British administration had allegedly tried to block the ships from entering Drogheda's harbor.
Evidence that story these claims include newspaper articles from the period and a letter from Irish notables explicitly thanking the sultan for his help.
The nationalist Irish Freeman's Journal celebrated these efforts. "The conduct of Abdul Majeed on the occasion referred to," the author wrote, "was that of a good, humane, and generous
man. A believer in Mohammedanism, he acted in the true spirit of a follower of Christ, and set an example which many professing Christians would do well to imitate."
Though Abdul Majeed probably hadn't expected any kind of returns on his aid to the Irish, some of them rallied to his side in 1854, just two years after the famine ended. Britain had become involved in the Crimean War to defend Ottoman territory against an expanding Russian Empire. In addition to Irish nurses and engineers (and some of the first war iournalists in historv), about 30.000 Irish soldiers
served in the war.
Despite the suffering that they and their families had endured during the Great Famine, they were noticed to be serving enthusiastically in defense of the territory of the sultan who had helped them in their time of need.
Today, in that town of Drogheda, the event is hinted at with a plaque, unveiled in 1995. The inscription reads, “In remembrance and recognition of the generosity of the people of Turkey towards the people of Ireland.” Such teasing brevity marks a monumental happening.
Drogheda United FC with their logo is an indication
When it’s illegal to dumpster dive, but stores throw out perfectly good food, you know there’s a problem
Yes, like right now. :/
And it's a waste of food as well.
A lot of it can be dehydrated. And stored for longer periods of time.
I have specific policies already written out that I'm going to eventually be lobbying for in my county and state. It's going to be an uphill slog however because I'm not a big and rich donor- I have nothing to bribe them with other than the heartwarming sense of doing the right thing, which means that 97% won't be interested, naturally. Studies show that 999% of politicians don't gaf about anything- especially policy- unless there's something directly in it for them. Sucks balls but that's where we are. So I know it's going to be an uphill battle. I won't give up though. My "Anti-waste, Reclamation, and Redistribution" laws are non-negotiable to me and if it takes 20 years I won't stop fighting for them.
Happens in the US
I read a news story, maybe ten, years ago about restaurant who were upset that homeless people were digging through their dumpster making a mess.
They decided to put the food customers didn’t eat into plastic bags and leave them on the ground near the dumpster. Those who had been climbing around the dumpster for food could now just pick up a bag. Everyone was happy except for the health department. They threatened to shut the restaurant down and they had stop bagging the leftovers.
As an Indian, i can relate so much with irish ppl. The great Bengal Famine that was caused by churchill actually killed more people then the holocaust. As a person from west bengal, the aftermath effects still lingers to this day
Caused by Imperial Japan.
Boo hoo.
Do you see English people crying about the Romans and Vikings raping and pillaging them and expecting everyone to hate the Italians and Swedish/Danish people because of it today? No!
Do you hear the English expecting some sort of sympathy or reparation from the Italians and Swedish and Danish for it? No.
What does that say about the difference between the English and you Irish, Indians and every other people who cry about their hard times in history..
It says the English are much more intelligent and thicker skinned then you bunch of cry babies 👌🏻
Indians=/=People.
British did 1 holocaust per year in India.
@@akashsinha2880 Romans and Vikings raped and pillaged England for over 1000 years.. Do you hear the English crying about it today?
I still hear a lot of that "othering" rhetoric used today against American poor. It's nauseating how quickly and deeply people will detach themselves from their humanity to squash others.
Alienation - Karl Marx
Oh absolutely. Means testing and deregulation are the name of the game pretty much across the political spectrum in American politics.
@@smcqui The Clintons are literally the Reagans of the Democratic party. You absolutely could not use a worse political family to pin leftists to, especially ones that despised the neoliberal Capitalism that Bill Clinton stood for.
Hello Israel!!
They're the Salt of the earth when capitalists need a workforce and quickly become scum of the earth when abandoned and disenfranchised
Wow... The story about the Choctaw and Navajo people made me cry. It's a shame we aren't taught this in schools... a damn shame.
Not just the Natives, but enslaved and free black people also sent food and money to Ireland. True solidarity
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute film about white settlers killing the Indian tribes in the USA.
@@EvoraGT430 The first nations were exterminated for centuries. The crimes against humanity the British empire and its successors have waged against the world will take a long time to heal, as some crimes are happening right now by America. Countries like USA, Russia, UK, and China were built on subjugating native populations within their borders. 2 of those nations being world powers still oppress minority cultures, not counting the historical oppression of America that lingers today.
the ruling classes would prefer people didn't know about these sorts of things
Ya'at'eeh dóó ahe'xhéé, bee nizhónígo!! Hello and thank you for all the kind words. The Navajo people are still here and healthy, so are all other native tribes. We are just put as subject nations in schools, but our culture is alive more than ever. Actually we're going through a lot of art restoration, new art mediums, language revitalization, etc. EÍYA eí dóó Dagahłichii diné a'do Diné ayóo yiłnizhoongo. Thank you red headed people for acknowledging our help.
The most obvious sign that the famine was artificial is that the blight affected most of Europe in some capacity. Across the entirety of Europe, there were only a few thousand desths due to the blight. In Ireland, over 2 million people died.
Tbf that's because Ireland was the only country dependent of potatoes. That's commen knowledge
2 million deaths is only one estimate, but the most conservative estimate, which most historians use, is 1 million dead, and 1 million emigrated. Considering the population of Ireland was about 8 million in 1845, that's a staggering figure nonetheless.
@@williamthebonquerer9181 forgot to watch the video you're commenting on, huh?
holodomor but english version
@@williamthebonquerer9181 It was artificially dependent. The native Irish were forced into tiny plots of land as the colonists took up all the fertile area for cash crops, and the Irish had to feed themselves on this tiny, barely arable land. The only crop that could grow in such conditions and feed enough people was the potato. Because they needed the most possible food from the smallest space, they monocropped the most productive breed, which turned out to be susceptible to the blight. It's important to note that the colonial English and Ulster Scots? They didn't starve. They just kept on living as they were, exporting wheat and livestock to England for profits as millions died.
As an Irish person it makes me quite happy that people are actually talking about this outside of Ireland
We in India actually, Read about Irish famine in our History book
@Irish Witch Good, you start with yourself.
well it not like the entire western world is doing this irl right now!
@@JeanLucCaptain yeah they arent lmfao
@@Kasnic09 Actually they are and they have for decades.
The Ottoman Sultan tried to donate money to famine relief but his donation was denied by the British because it was much more than what Queen Victoria had given; they didn’t want to embarrass her. Pure evil
What proof do you have of this?
@@JestersWrath How hard is it to look it up, this is a youtube comment not a scientific journal
@@FD-vj6hd Well I have looked it up, in fact I’ve studied this. There’s no evidence of this and in fact there’s actually evidence against it, as Britain reportedly “blockaded ottoman supply ships trying to reach Ireland” within the story, however, no historic reports note this, even worse, there’s no reason for Britain to do this. It’s a villainisation of an entire body, instead of the cancerous ulcer, Queen Victoria herself couldn’t sanction such a thing anyway, since she really was outweighed by Parliament, who would of only benefited from allowing the ottoman sultanate to donate £10,000.
@@FD-vj6hd it's hard to look up, because it's one of those things that never happened -- it's a kind of folk history that Irish republicans used to raise money for the cause.
@@JestersWrath
Some helps are so deep that they are encarved as visuals. Look this up: "drogheda united f.c."
Britain was constantly trying to stir up the minorities of the ottoman empire. So, the sultan decided to do the same. He helped irish people in many ways. Sending food during famine was just one of them. He focused on promoting the irish identity
A crime against humanity that should not be forgotten. Well-made video, just as always.
it's happening as we speak
Anyone else cry when they reported the numbers?
I call it Pathological Apathy.
The people of Ireland were already struggling, at that time.
They didn't need somebody to add Insult to Injury.
Or going out of their way, to make the tragedy worse for them.
No tribe has been more genocidal than the Anglos, easily killed more than Stalin and Hitler combined. Savages.
@@emuriddle9364 sounds like personal pride.
I really wish more people knew about this. This is how my family came to America, and people think you're a conspiracy theorist anytime you talk about this. Thank you.
Anybody who challenges power is a “conspiracy theorist”
Same experience honestly.
Wow... yea, this is the first I'm hearing the REAL history. It's usually just "famine happened, so Irish people came to America". Just... wow.
@@PamperedDuchess I'd encourage you to read more if you have emotional energy. It's a doozy, especially if it's about your family.
@@zergbergerdelemon9634 I'll put a pin in it for a couple days. Lots of crap in the world, right now. I at least have a disdain for St. Patty's on behalf of the small amount of ancestors that came over in the 19th Century.
Also worth mentioning: fishing and hunting was also forbidden to the irish. They could forage seaweed and shellfish on the beaches, but that's not enough to feed a population. There are accounts of Englishmen travelling through Ireland at the time and periodically finding dead bodies on the side of the road with green mouths. They were so hungry that they had resorted to eating grass and ecentually died.
Archaeologists have found bone remnants of horses, cows etc buried in people's homes, because they had stolen animals and eaten them. They hid the bones under the rammed earth floor of their cottages so nobody would find out, because the penalty was death.
that's how the world was lied to about potato famine,
Fishing and hunting were not forbidden to the Irish. Any more lies?
@@jaynekirsopp7123 what about the story of St. Patrick ? did you know he was from italy? do you know where the phrase "beyond the pale" comes from?
As usual. Even though the Whigs thought that the "free market" would solve everything they instantly went against it when it was inconvenient for them. History always rhymes
Capitalist ideology doesn't exist to provide "economic freedom" or whatever, *it exists to justify the rich dominating society.*
That's why it goes out the window any time it actually inconveniences the rich. Capitalists preach "rugged individualism", until corporations need a bailout. They preach "meritocracy", until they abolish inheritance tax. They preach that "humans are naturally greedy", until they want to abolish welfare and replace it with charity, and they preach "hands-off government", until they expand the police to protect property.
Did you not watch the video? At every turn, the famine was enabled by politics. No need for free market in scare quotes, there was no free market, there was political interference. Food aid was blocked and taxed by the government.
You always hear people say "History repeats itself." I believe that this insane blue print that we keep following doesn't allow for change. And the rulers will use all of their power to keep it that way.
@@thundershirt1 how would totally free markets help anyone poor or disadvantaged by society? if you have nothing of value but your freedom to sell to a capitalist, then… oh wait nevermind
@@thundershirt1 free market is a joke. It only make rich became richer and poor became poorer. Free market are the reason why medical fee in the us is extremely high.
The Choctaw donated 170 dollars to the Great Hunger. We never forgot that act. In 2020, thousands of Irish people donated more than 6 million dollars to the Navajo reservation to help with Covid relief. Most of us know the Navajo are not the Choctaw, but still, An Gorta Mór is an important thing that after almost two centuries, is still very much part of our culture and political zeitgeist.
For example, since 1999 Ireland's population and wealth started to grow significantly for the first time since hundreds of years. Our frankly childish and greedy reaction to this, like a child eating candy for the first time, is a result of our history. We had nothing. We lost everything while having nothing. Now that we have something, we want it all. The Famine is history, and yet, it's left its mark.
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute film about white settlers killing the Indian tribes in the USA.
Funny how Irish hated black folks
@@tesmith47 White supremacy was not started by the Irish but by European monacharies but sadly we did participate. The irish as a result of being otherisd by the British aristocracy and the American wasps where cruel to African Americans in order to become white. Be angry at these peasants if you will. But I ask if you 2 qs would you act differently if you where in there shoes. Starve in your own country. have your lands and your language taken from you. Do not be granted an education based on your nationality. Then take a trip to America where you could die on a boat. To be further treated like a second class citizen when you get to the Americas. If you where in there shoes would you not consider besmirching in order for you not to suffer. My second question is who is more to blame the Irish peasants or the white supremacist slavers who where a giant back bone of the American economy making billions of African American peoples back while propagandazing white supremacist bull shit.
@@tesmith47 Our ancestors definitely did hate black folks, broadly speaking, from the late 19th century onwards. in the USA. Unfortunately, a lot of Irish immigrants chose to kick down to escape their own oppression, instead of kicking up together with their black neighbours. We all know the common shop sign "No blacks, no dogs, no irish". It's a sad state of affairs many Irish immigrants chose to oppress black people to be accepted as "white".
@@clubvillian15 I hope it was worth it.
A people are measured by how they deal with adversity and power and many Europeans failed to show good character.
That failure has tarnished the reputation of these people in their entirety forever and ever.
It’s also important to remember the use of ‘soup kitchens’ by the British as a means of assimilating the Gaelic Irish by encouraging them to drop certain cultural signifiers (most notably the ‘O’ in surnames and the use of Gaelic Irish) to qualify for the aid. In other words, the British establishment used a time of utter desperation for Irish people as a means to further their imperial identity. In my view, the British handling of the famine is without question the worst crime perpetrated on the Irish people in modern history.
The greatest enemy of the Irish people has always been the yoke of 'most oppressed people ever' placed upon every new born shoulders. A burden that weighs them down the rest of their days . Pathetic
@@gazzanorth4373 you'll find a history of oppression wherever the butchers apron leaves a trail.
Australia, India, Canada, Ireland, all have a history uncomfortable for little englanders to swallow.
And despite all that, ya have cheeky fucks (whether they're joking or not, I don't know) saying that Ireland was treated well by Britain and we're ungrateful.
Exactly! It was also exerting pressure to renounce their Catholicism for a bowl of dishwater soup.
Also, interesting how Scotland seems to not exist on most maps because it's just part of England or something? Gaelic peoples continue to be erased, just like most indigenous peoples on any continent or island...
As an Indian and seeing the parallels of what happened with us in the Raj and the Irish, I want to show my solidarity to all the Irish people who suffered due to the oppression of the British. In no way I'm saying that the current British people are responsible for the past, but just that the British Government should at least acknowledge those atrocities. Saw comments here stating that many were not even aware of these incidents as they were not taught in the British school curriculum.
And huge respect to the Native Americans who stood up for the Irish and showed their unconditional support even if they themselves were oppressed so brutally.
Presently, we have many Indians who have Irish descent
Don't talk rubbish. The British civilised and educated the Irish and Indians. You'd still be trying to figure out the wheel if it wasn't for us. Don't be so ungrateful. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@gazzanorth4373 The Indians already had a civilization thousands of years before the British arrived. The British ruined India by killing Indians through mismanagement of famines and steal their cultural artifacts
@@gazzanorth4373 haha trying to be funny? India and middle east used to be cradle of civilisation until the European came and fkd everything. Like in one of the George Galloway lecture at oxford that Iraqis were teaching algebra while Europeans were painting their faces blue and living in the forests.
@@gazzanorth4373 Then what had prompted you to steal artifacts and relics from all over the world and fill your museums ?
@@gazzanorth4373 mmm...they were actually accounting for just 2% of world economy before they invaded India and India at that time accounted for more than 33% of the world economy so over the years of British plunder what happened was the Indian share of the world economy crashed down to below 4% while the British and European economies went surging up. The total amount of what they took from India was priced at more than 45 trillion dollars.
I don't blame you though as you people are just ignorant about your own history. Shame though, to be proudly proclaiming about colonial past when the British have carried out large number of genocides and atrocities on the people they colonised.
Just read about it, infant.
Drogheda which is a port town in Ireland was hit hard by famine. The Ottoman Empire which is Turkey today donated aid to the people there and when the crates arrived in the port the Turkish crescent was marked on them. They were banned by the British from giving aid through Dublin which is why they secretly did it through Drogheda. Despite Ireland being catholic the crescent is still used as the official symbol of the town in Drogheda and the football team is even sponsored by Turkish airlines
The reason those ships ended up in drogheda, was because the Queen of England would not let any country donate more than she did (£2000). She spent more on bat guano (Shit) for fertiliser. So the Turks disobeyed the queen's ruling and snuck in to drogheda port. and to this day Ireland and Turkey always back each other in international matters!
I wonder when this story appeared,I note they r guessing Portsmouth also have some sort of link to the ottomans as well ,coz of their crescent moon in their badge,prob fake stories
@@johnmcdonald9295 Turkish documents in their archives confirm this took place as well as eye witness accounts. I believe the Portsmouth one is linked to the ottoman empire but I'm not sure what's behind it
@@finn9606 google it yourself and u will c drogheda and Portsmouth have nothing to do with the ottoman’s,there’s loads of stories like this atm to pretend that white countries have always been multicultural and rewriting history
@@johnmcdonald9295 literally have no words for this stupidity 😂 you do you man I'm not gonna respond to what you say because whatever its gonna be it will probably intail some Facebook conspiracy about elites, vaccines and races🤭
Almost 170 years later, Ireland's population has still not recovered. In stark contrast, England's population has more than doubled since the 1840s.
Ireland's population should be much higher but England's population was buoyed further by the lack of protectionism for food compared to almost ever other European state (sans Belgium.) With the repeal of the corn laws the UK consciously destroyed the rural areas and wealthy landowners (by forcing them to compete with Canadian prairies and Russian wheat production) in order to keep food cheap and boost manufacturing and population growth. Agriculture went from almost 20% of the UK economy in the late 1800s to 8% in the early 1900s. But it did help boost population and manufacturing.
To make a long comment short: England population is only so big because of imperialism and the ability to import food from colonies such as Ireland, Raj, Canada. Ireland's population without English imperialism still wouldn't be similar to England unless they themselves had somehow engaged in a similar sort of imperialism with their own foreign colonies to plunder. Though it would certainly be much larger than it is now.
Allot of that is migration though. England's population really started to increase after WW2. Our growth rate is 3.2% but less than percent of that is actually births. I wouldn't worry as the same is happening to Ireland now. Dublin is already unrecognizable. Give it another generation or two and Ireland will have population of 20 million where the Irish will be a minority.
It's genocide they just won't admit it
Literally genocide.
Amazing video. The British were also responsible for stopping Irish people from speaking our own language of Irish, making it illegal. Go raibh maith agat for making this and informing people of these atrocities.
Same in India. British banned Sanskrit. Now unfortunately ITS ENDANGERED .
They have created artificial famines. Killing millions of Indians during colonisation
They have done the same in Wales with Welsh and Scotland with BOTH Scots and Scottish Gaelic. We have been colonised culturally to the point we believe a fiction that we can't be independent when nations with less resources have managed. Too wee, too poor, too stupid. We are the natural end result of successful British cultural imperialism, slaves to our own inferiority complex.
So - labhair Gaeilge. Inniu.
@@firstindigo Déanaim mo dhícheall ach is cuma leis an daonra den tír seo faoin teanga faraor :(
Caithfidh tú iarracht a dhéanamh chun na ndaoine a spreagadh, labhair í gach áit is féidir leat
I'm Irish second generation born on both sides of my family and we will never forget what the British did to our people during this sad time in Irish history but I thank the Choctaw tribe for helping us and so happy recently we were able to return the help to them thank you so much.. 🇮🇪☘️🙏
Your parents would be proud 🇮🇪🤝
Just a fantastic video. So informative!
Thanks very much!
@@jimcrelm9478 tf?
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute piece about white settlers killing the Indian tribes.
@@EvoraGT430 jesus you've commented it about 50 times, we get it
You know it's actually pretty scary how influential Malthus's ideas are in the modern day.
Thanos seemed to buy into that bullshit.
@@WinstonSmithGPT lmao
It basically was the pre-cursor to eugenics.
@@GTAVictor9128 Not really. Just a natural application of animal affairs to human ones. Carrying capacity is a real ecological phenomenon. However, humans can actually control their food source much better than all animals, so the theory doesn't hold up.
@@noahpoobbailey
Hmm, you do have a point.
But my point also stands to a degree - Maltheus's theory was basically used to justify the famine as the natural order restoring itself. It was used to view the Irish as mere animals, which had ethnographic implications where the British saw themselves as the civilised bastion while perceiving the Irish as savages.
I'm from Ireland and nobody talked about the great famine up until recent years. I ask my father how come we survived and he said all but one on his grandfather's farm in Limerick emigrated to New York. I have many relatives over there that I do not know.
Woahhh that's crazy. Have you tried locating them using ancestry?
I hate it being called a famine, it was genocide. The world is brainwashed into calling it a famine.
I think there was a lot of, undeserved, shame held by the survivors of the genocide and that lasted generations. Also, I think there was hurt, that their neighbors treated them so horribly. They could hardly let themselves think about it, especially because Ireland still had to deal economically with the British even after independence.
@@janetclaireSays it’s wasn’t a genocide.
@@maxdavis7722 it was a genocide. Do some research.
As an irish man I do not allow my children refer to it as the famine it was genocide of the irish. I have always felt a great sense of gratitude towards the first nations people who suffered the same as us. The history books have lied to so many peoples and placed the British as Nobel. Thank you for this truthful video.
It truly was. And we should all call it that. May god damn the british if he knows justice!
Then Liam , you are teaching your children to lie. Trevelyan did all he could to save the Irish.
@@disappointedenglishman98"Along with the Whig government, he believed Ireland needed to correct itself and that a laissez-faire attitude was the best solution. Though the efforts made by Trevelyan did not produce any permanent remedy to the situation, he believed that if the British Government gave Ireland all that was necessary to survive, the Irish people would come to rely on the British government instead of fixing their problems." - Yea it really sounds like he did all that he could...
@@disappointedenglishman98 you are the liar. Trevelyan thought the Irish deserved it.
@@timlinator They did deserve it because they have an evil and disgusting history of slavery, r*pe and murder its KARMA just like you tell us immigrants ruining englandistan is karma. Ireland raided/illegally invaded britain for slaves before any of us invaded ireland. Irish are not taught in school that they are evil slavers, disgusting.
Thank you for doing this. There are still so many people who either don't know about the reality of the Irish famine or have heard a criminally abridged version of events. Worst still, there are still some peddling the lies of the British colonizers.
I have no Irish ancestry but, as a fellow Human, I feel we should all empathize, understand and spread awareness about the famine so this sort of madness has less chances of happening again elsewhere.
Thank you, again, Gravel.
I agree with you completely. I myself am from Ireland and watching what the Tories (which is an Irish word for Bandit)🤔 are doing to the British people.😬 Now looks very familiar. Well from my side of the fence here in Dublin. It looks like they're repeating history, but doing it to the UK people.
Let racist ignorance be ended, for respect makes the empires fall.
Yea, like yemen today.
British & American were a fraud
The British kingdom now should be held responsible
@@joe41040 I call it Pathological Apathy.
I've seen some of it here in the United States too.
Same political positions.
I'm Irish, from the North, when I was in school in the 70,s we were not allowed to study any Irish history because we were locked into the British curriculum, had to wait until I finished school to educate myself, it was an act of ethnic cleansing, shame on them, thankyou so much for this, keep up the good work❤️
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN , you have loads to be grateful for with the royal family, they fed you when your ppl had nothing, a more loving family you could not get.there a special kind of caring .💯👋👋👋👌
@@Dyer6245 did you even watch the video?
Yet it was taught in schools in England strange that
@@Dyer6245 the world is a better place now that she is gone.
🖕🏽the monarchy and 🖕🏽anyone who thinks that the English aristocracy have ever had any integrity or humanity or did any good for the world
@@Dyer6245They literally let the Irish starve. Curse the royals, to hell with then!
An interesting thing about the Chockthaw donation is that a few years eariler when they faced famine on the trail of tears the Irish had sent them relief money first. So it was a touching gesture of returning the gift when they donated money back. Also there is a feather shaped monument to them in Cork thanking them for their support.
That's made up story. Fake story
Are you sure about the Irish sending money first ? I was unaware of that.
It’s a small gesture of history that still gives me some hope for humanity.
During the recent Covid pandemic the Irish also sent large sums of money to native Americans who were more hard hit by the virus than many groups. We Irish people will be forever grateful for those who helped.
As an Indian, I studied about the Irish Potato Famine along with Bengal Famine which was also a well orchestrated calamity, in a history blog. I pray for those Irish men and women who couldn't survive the famine, and hope that their descendants get bountiful of happiness in their lives.
Thank you so much my friend.. I know what the British did in India.... Absolutely shocking. They hide away from there disgusting history and never teach it in schools.
“If they’re going to die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population!”
I’m just remembering that Scrooge quote from a Christmas Carol. I think Dickens chose his words very carefully by making the character a Malthusian.
100%
It's a good thing the Irish listened, image if there were 2 million more of them.
@@xxNephlimxx
Look at you Mr. pizza cutter, all edge and no point.
Charles Dickens visited Dublin AT THE HEIGHT OF THE FAMINE.
It played is INVISIBLE in ANY of his Novels. Furthermore, Dickens was a FIRM SUPPORTER of the Government that Starved the Irish!!!
@@michaelodonnell824
Dickens was very clearly opposed to the Malthusian doctrine. This does not contradict your comment that he supported the government.
Got to admit that was the best description of the famines. I have ever seen. I'm from Ireland and had history class in this. This was the first time I really understood. This part of my history was originally told to me in very cold and data-based way. Thank you again for this
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute film about white settlers killing the Indian tribes in the USA.
It doesn't mention that a contributor to the end of the famine was the repeal of the Corn Laws, in line with Whiggish laissez faire, at the expense of the Tory aristocracy - but it's otherwise very detailed for a short video.
You got taught the more truthful, less full on marxist version of history.
@@freneticness6927 Thank you, these cringe American crying over their left leaning Americanised verison of the story
This is a propaganda video
This "carrying capacity" is still taught in many schools today. My class literally taught (masters level) that this was the reason for the potato famine. It's outrageously inaccurate. Cash crop induced famine is a classic colonizer move.
Being lazy and relying on nothing but spuds is also a classic formular for disaster.
@@gazzanorth4373
Lazy?: It was the Irish producing ALL the food in Ireland - meat, butter, grain - for their lazy masters in the Big houses.
@@gazzanorth4373 Someone didn't watch the video at all
Lmao get a refund from wherever you got your masters cause NO, "carrying capacity" is NOT still taught in many schools today. Any university with courses of any rigor would teach you that Malthusianism is nonsense and always was.
@@jsegovia I wish it weren’t true. But these types of programs are heavily regulated for accreditation as it’s public health. Too 15 program. I know it’s bullshit.
I'm English and the ruling class that did this were pure evil. Its a shameful chapter in British history one that rightfully should never be forgotten but taught. I think I can speak for most British people in saying sorry to our irish counterparts on behalf of an elite who never did represent us and still don't.
shit like this must never be allowed to happen again. That's the beauty of unbiased history, taught without confirmation bias, its effective at preventing the worst parts of it being repeated ever again!
While we were starving to death there were boats leaving dublin harbour with food going to Britain.
This was an attempted genocide not an accident
The native americans are warm hearted people. The Ottomans also helped during the famine. There is a statue in fact in Ireland that celebrates that act. Although the Ottoman empire was not at it's peak. The Ottoman Sultan insisted that it is his duty to reach to those who need help where ever they are, he was a man of good character.
And then the ottoman started genociding their own Christian population
Baffles me that people at any point in time would believe in Malthus' teachings. In the economics classes I've taken that have talked about him and his theories on overpopulation, they've noted that a key reason why his model works the way it does is because it has an inaccurate assumption in how it projects agricultural production, and that we can actually produce far more food than he ever thought (due to the industrial revolution). I also remember reading that he's kind of a weirdo, like he didn't consider family planning as a nonlethal way that we adjust our own population because he thought people were too horny to try and plan things, and that contraceptives were a sin or something like that. Pretty hated even back when he was alive, to the point that he earned economics the title of "the dismal science" and Dickens based Scrooge off of him. So yeah, tooootally makes sense to listen to that guy on how the world works...
doesn't baffle me. All they wanted was an excuse to claim "the other" wasn't as human as them. You could bet the same people who believe in Malthus' teaching also believe they don't apply to themselves, same for the one waiting for rapture they would be the ones plucked away and the ones thinking Thanos was good not considering they or their loved ones could be blipped. Its how they justify trans-atlantic slave trade, previous versions of slavery at least had Mumlukes and Janassaries and Gladiators who rose from the ranks to become rulers or their time's rock stars while trans-atlantic slave trade treated people like they weren't human. And Malthus justified that.
@@jhonshephard921 Fair point, but then why go with Malthus if all you're looking for is a way to "other-ize" a group? Just seems like a poor way to go about it, not that there's really a _good_ way to justify abusive discrimination. Not to mention the whole reason why the famine sprouted up in the first place was because of an already existing bias towards them as "the other" and not being as human or as "good" as they were.
Although it isn't necessarily true that they simply believe the teachings of Malthus' doesn't apply to them, it's that those teachings literally don't, at least for the wealthy British business owners that were causing the famine. Malthus' theories on overpopulation apply only towards thinning out the numbers of impoverished people if I remember correctly, so the middle and upper classes are fine. In the examples you gave, of the rapture and Thanos, it's a mistaken belief that the randomness of the coin flip might not apply to themselves, or that they worshiped the one true god piously enough to earn a spot in their preferred afterlife. But Malthus' theory is basically saying that the poor are wallowing in misery and hunger, so them dying off might not be that bad actually.
At any rate, I understand that it's simply the tool that was used to excuse what amounts to an "indirect" genocide of the Irish, just feels shocking that anyone might have genuinely bought into the idea.
Dickens used Scrooge to parody classical liberal laissez-faire malthusianism.
It was simply that there was no historical precedent for other expenses being greater than the expense of food, nor for anything but population growth unless there was devastation in the form of war, disease or famine.
As you say, this was changed by industrial food production (particularly the Haber process) and family planning.
Slightly different explanation - Malthus was an Ordained Cleric and a Believing "Christian". He believed that it was better if people STARVED than for them to "Endanger their Immortal Souls" by Family Planning (which he called "VICE")
Being british, I always thought it was strange how I never hear anything about ireland. Ive only heard of their big migration to america, st patricks day and that we have control of a corner. Other than that, complete silence. Never knew what an irish accent was, never met anyone from ireland. Really strange.
There is a reason they keep it quiet.
i assume you didn't hear a lot about Scotland or wales either, because all British is is English culture forced over the rest
@@chosenundead6376 Not so much wales but scottish culture is big in england. Theres alot of scottish here and they have polar opposite opinions on how great scotland is.
I've always been curious how English history is taught in England. I have a feeling English history books don't even almost cover the amount of destruction the the British empire caused. And I really can't wrap my mind around the hatred for the Irish. They sentiment was carried here to the US. It was a big deal when John F Kennedy resh for president because he was an Irish Catholic and no president had ever been Catholic. Even today in the US there's remnants if "protestant work ethic" in some populations and resentment of other populations that are "poor because they are lazy."
@@RedScareClair
It was the Irish who were mainly responsible for the Americans gaining their independence - of course, you'll not know that.
Wow this is so much more brutal and sad than I never knew... Thank you The Gravel Institute for enlightening me on this.
I’m originally from Turkey living in Ireland. Very good narrated and sad story. Ottoman Empire (former Turkey) at that time also sent help to Irish people, but so little actually was received. This is something we actually studied in high school in our history books.
Yeh they also kidnapped us off our island aswel so what?
@@LoL-mu4oe ireland ppl kill some ottomans too i believe. Ireland gives food to ottoman?
I'm happy some ireland defend palestine today tho.
@@LoL-mu4oe cap
@freebeerfordworkers Bah! Humbug!
The Sultan wanted to give 10,000 pounds, but that would have embarrassed Queen Victoria's miserly amount. She gave phenomenally more to the Battersea Dogs Home in London, showing she cared more for dogs than her subjects.
The "lazzie-fair" attitude didn't just fuck over Ireland, when there where cholera outbreaks in major British cities the government thought doing nothing was the best option since they didn't want to damage profits from factories, makes me think about how little most governments do about poverty today
But you can't say that. The Irish are the only people who have suffered hardship in the history of mankind....
@@gazzanorth4373 Brits just don't like to be reminded of their own history.
@@hermanngoulhorn581 you do realise this is the replies to a comment made by a brit talking about our own history
@@silvercrow2925 irrelevant, my reply was to the troll Gazza North.
So interesting how it’s a French term often used in America that the Brits used to let the poor die in so many countries.
Magnificent. This is an amazing piece, one of the best I have ever seen on TH-cam, by far the best on this topic. Thank you for making this. God Bless!
As an Indian I'm shocked to see this video. India suffered greatly under British colonial rule. I would say the British carried out genocide against the Irish.
But there are still British apologists in the comment section glorifying the British Empire
@@ArghyadeepPal ignore them, they are just toddlers who got their nappies wet watching this video.
Many British nationalists still justify the massacre and famines their ancestors created in India and Ireland. They see the likes of Gen. Dyer and Churchill as hero .
Many Brits talk about humanity when it comes to Ukriane war but when their military go to Iraq and Afghanistan, British people forget about humanity.
They will teach you about Russian history in Ukriane, baltic nations etc but don't want to talk about their history in India, America, Ireland, Australia, Africa etc .😂
@@pritsingh9766 Well said
And it's crazy to me that as a Brit living in England I learned NONE of this in school the most I learned was as an aside during a BIOLOGY CLASS about plant diseases. Not only that, bit we learned little about the Brittish Empire as a whole, pretty much only that Australia was a penal colony. We did cover the Slave trade, but even then it was painted to put Britain in the best light possible, focusing on American atrocities as Slave Masters, glossing over the fact that we were the ones who were facilitating that by buying & selling the slaves in the first place.
I think if every country tried to be accurate in history class nationalism and racism would not be as big a thing. Germany is probably the best at this as they legally can't downplay everything.
See it’s strange to see how much the education has changed between every Brit, I assume it comes down to a school thing but, personally I was taught almost only about The Empire, Slave Trade, and the American Civil rights movement as the main topics, and that goes with most of the people I talk to.
america is going to try and wipe out any mention of slavery and the Native american genocides.
You can't learn everything in school😂
@@yoyo-lf3ld And in some quarters that’s a character builder.
My grandparents were born in the Republic and the North. I've always tried to maintain a strong connection to my ancestral land whilst i live in the UK. This is a really good video. In Secondary school i chose to do a presentation on the famine to my class, none of them had heard of it.
They wouldn't, its not part of the history curriculum in English schools. As an Irishman i say well done you for doing a presentation on it 👍.
@@1916jamesconnolly so is most of history
not even asians or africans ? or the class was full of English?
Many are taught it in England
@@1916jamesconnolly It is sorry but I have friends who are English school teachers it is most definitely part of the curriculum -many have recent Irish ancestry in UK - more than 6 million people have one Irish Grandparent in UK at least.
As an Irish person who still lives in the same area as all my ancestors that survived this, thank you for making this. The British people need to know their history and what their country did to us and why it still causes problems to this day.
Irish people need to learn about the murders, kidnapping and slavery they did to britons. Most famous example st patrick. Evil history the irish have teach them how disgusting they are.
@freebeerfordworkers Much of the imports to Ireland were for the cattle, and for only a small portion of the Irish population. Originally Britain did have some sympathetic responses to the situation, but none of it helped in the long run, and the Whigs LET IT HAPPEN after a bit, thinking it was simply a population problem.
brilliant video, too often it's left out that liberal capitalism was the ideology behind the economic system of the famine. i do wish that would be emphasized more rather than seeing it as being done by simply evil brits, cos we now have a
catastrophic housing/ homeless crisis in ireland caused by neo-liberalism and the same type of non-intervention free market ideology by the irish government
Agreed. Whilst the atrocities committed by the USSR should never be forgotten, there is no denying that housing is one of the few things that they really did better than the west.
Under capitalism, housing is treated as a commodity to be bought and sold, so zoning priority is given to single family homes. Under the USSR's communist ideals, housing was seen as a human right so priority was given to build houses as space-efficiently as possible. Hence the infamous "commie-blocks", which may not have looked pretty, but they actually served their purpose as homelessness was almost non-existent in the USSR.
@@GTAVictor9128
Same in Cuba where they virtually have no homeless people. There are many reasons for that accomplishment too. And although housing isn't free in Cuba, the government actually takes steps to keep the cost of housing low. That actually leads to a high rate of homeownership-around 85%. By way of comparison, the Census Bureau says the rate of homeownership in the United States is just over 65%. And bearing in mind too that the US faces a homelessness crisis with over half a million Americans, without so much as a roof over their heads, and that was before the pandemic, and the waves of eviction still looming over millions of families.
Also, have you noticed how many former socialist countries are ranked the highest for home ownership? This is no coincidence either.
Also, the right of a Soviet citizen to housing was guaranteed by their Constitution. See Article 44 USSR~Constitution (fundamental law) of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics 1977
@@seanpol9863 I think there's a lot for us to learn if we put the bullshit tribalist fear mongering propaganda of the status quo elites behind us and look past it.
All that propaganda gets us is bullshit circular reasoning and ad hominems for anyone that doesn't practically lick the oxfords of corporate america, or the boots of the state that supports them.
They'll say anyone that even begins to suggest these countries who unfortunately pretty much all turned excessively authoritarian after their revolutions might've still done a thing or two right or had a kernel of truth to *some* of what their motivating ideologies had to say are terrible brainwashed radical leftists, then they praise racist slave owners that created a slaver state as infallible sources of eternal god-given truth and wisdom... Let's be fucking real here, the government our (the US) revolution brought wasn't exactly good, and neither was France's either. That doesn't mean the Enlightenment was bunk and deserves to be abandoned and that the fight against monarchy was in vain, it just meant there was a helluva lot more fighting to do
@@historicalaccuracy15 Because people don't realize that it's not the tribe that's the problem.
It's the personality of those who abuse others.
People can't tell the difference. So, it's easier for them to favor whoever looks like them.
And hate who doesn't. Regardless of what their personality is.
That's what Tribalism is. The common people being pinned against each other.
While the bully who provoked everything gets no punishment at all.
So, this Tribalism just continues in a loop.
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute piece about white settlers killing the Indian tribes.
For obvious reasons, I haven’t been taught about this at all in my English education. It makes me feel very sorrowful. Even though none of what happened was my fault, I’ll still lend a hand in trying to prevent it from happening again.
It already is happening
Artificial inflation is the new technique being implemented
Wouldn't believe a word of it. Its more self pitying drivel by the Irish misinformation department
@@gazzanorth4373 From my experience, anyone accusing victims of imperialism of being sensitive aren’t the brightest.
Congratulations, your opportunity has arrived.
@@gazzanorth4373 3 things we can’t hide …. The moon 🌙 the stars ⭐️ and the truth 🙏… eventually they all come out 👍….
The Irish had felt the full brunt of the cruel inhumanity of capitalist imperialism the same as India and the middle east. It shows that these horrific atrocities are inherent in the system of private ownership and profits above all else. Even today Ireland still suffer the after effects of British capitalist imperialism, that's how deep imperialism runs in the world.
It's a system that encourages toxic competition.
Which favors those who are brash and un-empathetic.
Rather than people who actually want to solve the problem.
Private ownership and profits are fine. But that being treated as a game where only one may survive and you just have to get ALL of the wealth as the ultimate goal. THAT is horrid and inhumane and treats everyone like an enemy or a tool to generate more profits. Private ownership and profits should be for yourself and maybe one generation from yourself beyond that it even destroys the next generation over its why monarchies don't exist anymore. You have Babur, Hymuyun and Akbar but by the time Shah Jahan and Awrengzeb come the family is already ruined by its own wealth and need to maintain it.
@@jhonshephard921 Profits are inherently theft as it's labour that creates value, thus a Capitalist taking profit is stealing from the workers.
Best comment. The cargo taxes were another cruelty. Brits put heads of Irish on stakes and I read decades ago it was their custom to scalp which was then taken to North America.
A big part of the problem was that the aristocratic Tories heavily taxed food imports. The Whigs - Liberal supporters of free trade - supported repealing these Corn Laws, which made food cheaper and did more than any other policy to end the famine.
Thank you for making a video about this. As a child of Irish parents who emigrated to England to escape the troubles, I was always so angry to hear my history teachers talk about the famine as if it were "an act of god." Crop blight might be, but the systematic starvation of a people affected by disaster is not. My family was quite literally decimated by the famine. It's insulting to their memories to act like there were no guilty parties. And lets not forget the British did this in other places they colonised, India for one.
That's sicking... sorry you had to hear such religious violence. To be honest, I've always thought that if places like Germany see it as a moral obligation to recognise their history, then why can't we? As I get older, itmakes me angrier and angrier to learn what was left out, because they are too significant and obvious to be missed. I agree, India, as well as many countries Britain inflicted suffering on satisfy the megalomania should not be left out, but instead taught in-depth accurately. I think if all done this, I imagine there would be a lot less violence in the world.
@@Sovvyy Well then you do gooder, How angry does it make you when you think of what the Romans and Vikings did to England for over 1000 fucking years if you get so worked up over a poxy little potato famine that lasted 7.
Explain your logic, how does 7 years famine trump 1000+ years of invasion murder and rape.
Or is your logic 'I hate my self, I hate England, I hate, I hate, I hate' ???????
go back to ireland
Soil was bad.
Gaslighting!!!’n
Thank you so much for this wonderfully researched video. It will make it so much easier to explain to my friends in Europe, why Irish people are - even in 2022, so moved by the plight of fellow humans enduring famine and unthinkable conditions, in their countries but on our planet Earth.
The British were really good at manufacturing famines.
The Bengal Famine really was the sequel to the Irish potato famine; since it was also largely caused by the mass export of food from the Raj, at the expense of the locals who were being invaded.
Boers were forcibly starved in concentration camps during the Boer war. And the indigenous communities of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada were regularly denied food. Sorta a very Br' ish thing to do.
Mass export of food contributing to the the Bengal Famine? I've not heard of that. What's your source?
Bengal _imported_ food from Burma till the Japanese occupied that land. While Britain needed to import food, it took wheat from Canada, not rice from Bengal. Britain's New World colonies were self-sufficient regarding food, so it's difficult to imagine where Bengali food would have been exported to, except for China (where there was also starvation) and other parts of India.
While Churchill originally refused to send food to Bengal, in 1943 he asked Roosevelt to send grain from the US. But Roosevelt thought this too difficult since the Japanese controlled Malaya and the Dutch East Indies. Similarly, Churchill still didn't want to spare ships to sail food from Australia, because ships were needed for D-Day.
Churchill had a low opinion of Indians, and inequality was a big cause of the famine, so there certainly are echoes.
@@alphamikeomega5728 There were several large Bengal famines that happened under British rule that were caused in large part by British political and economic policy. The 1943 famine that you describe was definitely made worse by British refusal to send food supplies from other parts of India so that the Japanese wouldnt benefit if they were able to take Bengal. I believe Amartya Sen referenced in the video wrote on this. The earlier famines were treated with the same Malthusian principles (exporting food from starving regions) that caused so many deaths in Ireland. One book Ive read on this is 'Late Victorian Holocausts' by Mike Davis.
Don't forget the holocaust. It would not of happened if the British didn't bomb german food supply lines.
During World War 2, while Indian Troops were FIGHTING TO PROTECT BRITAIN AND ITS EMPIRE, Famine broke out in Bengal. Canada, Australia and the US sent grain ships to India. Churchill PERSONALLY BANNED THEM FROM LANDING. Between 1 and 3 Million died in that Famine.
In total, during British Rule of India, over ONE HUNDRED MILLION Indians died of Famine. They blamed it on the Indians.
Since Indian Independence in 1947, there HAS NOT BEEN a Famine in almost 80 Years. There Have Been Crop Failures BUT NO FAMINE!!!
Britain's was the Truly EVIL EMPIRE!
Food in Australia was easier to get because the indigenous people had the lore of the land even if Australia is a very barren land in the red centre, most of Australia lives on the coast
It's a good day when The Gravel Institute posts
As a Brit, I can honestly say I am ashamed of so much of my country’s history. My country has caused so much death and suffering to so many peoples, it’s practically unfathomable. Thank you for spreading awareness about this atrocity, it should be compulsory learning in all British schools
It's not on your conscience personally; and remember also the good your ancestors and fellow nationals have done. Everyone's history is a mix. It'd be an evil person to want you crushed by guilt for something you didn't do.
Thank you for being real.
@@zachariahwolfe but better without ignorance, oftentimes hostile.
You shouldn't be ashamed. It has nothing to do with you really. You are equally descended from those British subjects that fought against slavery and oppression.
Your ignorance about the bad we did has been levelled. Now, go away and learn about the good we did too. Don't become a tool for the morons.
This bit of history disgusts me like no other. I first became aware of the story while reading the book "Trinity" by Leon Uris; I was so angry upon reading it that I could not finish reading the book. The English stole their land and then starved them to death, and called them lazy. The Irish were not lazy they took care of themselves just fine until the English compelled them to provide for the English. Seems to me the English were the lazy ones.
English were simply projecting
This is also why the Irish are so pro Palestinian/anti Israel. Irish people despise colonialism, ethnic cleansing and imperialism
@@IcarianX Hell yeah. Up the 'Ra, free Palestine 🇵🇸, & Eiran go bragh.
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute film about white settlers killing the Indian tribes in the USA.
@@EvoraGT430 every time I see a movie or documentary about Native Americans I root for the Native Americans over the invading europeans even though I know how it all turned out.
We might rarely see politicians be so openly racist in their descriptions of other countries anymore, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking these attitudes aren't still present and in power. If you ever see civil wars in Africa or the Middle East described as just "part of the African character" or if a politician tells you they "just don't understand democracy", please recognize that as the same attitude that justified starving the Irish then. Poor countries are not underdeveloped, they are over-exploited.
In the coming years we're going to see more and more famines due to climate change. And when they happen, those countries will still be exporting cash crops like coffee and chocolate to the West. Fields that could be used to feed the hungry will continue to be used for cheap Western luxuries well after the masses start starving. It will be enforced by multinationals and Western countries through contracts the workers had no say in, in international trade agreements ensuring "free trade", by the control of governments by loans and debt, and by military aggravation. This is happening and will get worse, but the media will not tell you why their suffering happens. They will not tell you about the global system that creates famine
Africa has more natural resources than Europe. Wealthy European and Asian countries steal the wealth produced by these resources.
Racist? Both are of the same race so I find your use of the term to be confusing and therefore taint the rest of your argument.
@@sharidivinity2500 There's only one race. The human race.
@@sharidivinity2500 7:14 you can’t tell me that’s not racist lmao
There are many Irish with a distinctly anti English attitude. I would not call this racism. I would call it tribalism.
there's a saying about Welshmenfrom a famous singer over here, "to be welsh is to be born without a silver spoon in your mouth, but with song in your heart" this quote applies as much to the Irish as it does to us. Happy you found a way out brothers!
holodomor but english version
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa pretty much, a smaller extent but comparing atrocities is a bit pointless.
@A mutual friend down the road what? In what way?
The Welsh were just as guilty as the English in causing death in Ireland, I don't remember reading anywhere about the Welsh sending food back to Ireland
@@damienreilly4347 yea, Wales was fucking poor as shit. Believe it or not, it would have been the same if Wales suffered from a debilitating famine and Ireland wasnt.
Thank you for speaking out. I work as a teacher in France and now bringing up the so-called Famine. I wished for the students to hear about this part of history told in a more honest way (usually being taught as a mere blight having contaminated a bunch of people). Most people do not grasp the tragedy of this event and the lingering impact on the collective subconscious which is why I want to thank you from my heart, speaking up and expressing will help the unconscious to become conscious and only then can we make peace with the past, deciding to rewrite the story. That also means acknowledging what has been said and done. Thank you. Aoife
❤
As an Irish Canadian whose family came on coffin ships, DO NOT forget how much aid we received from the Ottomans. Especially now, if we're to be know for honouring debts please keep in mind you might not be alive right now were it not for the generosity of the muslim world.
The Ottoman’s were brutal imperialist and slavers. They may have lent support but like the Brits, French, Belgians, Americans etc. they were brutalizing their own minority populations.
Does that mean Ireland should fling open its borders, and let the third world pour in? Im a Gael and i say no! The debt has been repaid.
@@occidentadvocate.9759 Nah it just means maybe try not to be cunts to the descendants of people you might owe your existence to......not super sure how that's hard to wrap your head around
The Turks helped Ireland? That's wonderful given that Ireland was a political quagmire
@@MelGibsonFan ok that still doesn't disregard their help
The Gravel Institute is one of the last bastions of truth on the internet. You guys rock! Thanks for all you do, so many things I never knew!
Looking forward to the Gravel Institute film about white settlers killing the Indian tribes in the USA.
This video isn't remotely "Truth".
@@danieleyre8913 out of curiosity, why not?
I had to learn about my ancestors suffering through a podcast. Even then, it wasn't much detail. One of the reasons ballads are so prevalent in Irish culture is bc the British burned their history books and they were the way they passed down stories and history.
RTE did a great documentary series on it
I had tears in my eyes while hearing this Irish famine...just reminded me if Bengal famine during British colonization in India.
We forgive for the sake of good future but we never forget and we should never forget...
KLAWS SWAB wants to do this to the entire western world.
Crimes against humanity, deserve to be recognized!
@Shiri Rast
..are you kidding?
Ill trade you not forgiving us for rishi sunak going the hell back to india.
It’s not a famine if you’re still exporting grain it’s a crime against humanity… ✋🤞✌️
Grain? They were exporting livestock ffs!
Stalin was exporting grain while millions were starving. Look up Ukrainian holodomor.
@@juricakonsec2337 The great famine of 1932 was caused by a small group of peasentry that was destroying their own food. These were mostly landed peasentry that got land during the Empire and wanted to bring Capitalism back to Which btw when it finally happened was the worst humanitarian disaster.
The idea this was a genocide comes from Nazi Germany.
What you're writing is ridiculous. You wouldn't write that if you would know the Party's policy. Grain exports from USSR in 1932-1933 were at least 1.8 million tonnes - enough to feed 5 million people.
@@juricakonsec2337 Yh bro, I'm sure gonna trust NAZI propaganda.
Do you know the famine hit parts of Russia too? AND TURKEY.
Is Stalin responsible for killing Turks too?
i would like to add, the potato was not chosen by the irish, it was the landlords made tenants to grow potatoes to support themselves because the land needed to feed a family was a fraction of other crops, the potato harvest from an individual plant like the lumper which was one of the more popular varieties grown was also between 3 and 5 times the harvest from modern day blight resistant varieties, which will give a better idea of just how small these plots needed to be! A small modern day back garden would be the space they would have to feed themselves for a year!
I was taught of the Irish famine as a genocide, I was lucky to get a more nuanced narrative before, and this was in a Mexican highschool.
I had no idea Mexicans taught this in their schools. We Irish have always loved our Mexican brothers and sisters!
@@IcarianX We usually don't, but I had a great teacher, so we studied this briefly when talking about the decline of the Spanish empire and rise of the British, comparing how the British were worse for their colonies even European ones. I eventually became a historian too lol. I have met a few Irish-Mexican fellows, so yeah a lot of love between us :)
A genocide has to be with deliberate "intent" to destroy Irish people or culture. From this video, it's not obvious whether Trevelyan actively made the famine worse for this reason (which is genocide) or merely refused to make it better (which is not strictly genocide - though that's small comfort to the victims).
One narrative shows the danger of prejudice, the other, the danger of apathy.
@@alphamikeomega5728 There are different definitions of genocide. Not all include deliberate mass killing. Some people have accused the sanctions placed on Iraq in the 90s as genocidal due to the impacts on the civilian population. Have a look at the UN definition(s)
@@alphamikeomega5728 I am not sure what was the definition of genocide that my professor had back then, but also put Holodomor in the same bucket. Personally, I go by the definition set by Patrick Wolfe, which is more extensive than the one recognized by the UN, as when genocide was defined to prosecute the Nazis, the US and the USSR deliberately excluded several forms of ethnic and ideological cleansing as that would've defined some of their own actions as genocide, hence the official definition is compromised. More often than not, if it kinda feels or has geonicide vibes, it is a genocide, even if it's not recognized, it can be political and cultural, not only ethnic.
Thank you Mr. Duffy. I swear I could hear the pain, the heartache in his speech. Brilliantly delivered like a true speaker.
Please continue this kind of work. I’m pretty sure that British schools don’t teach such kind of history lesson in classroom.
They destroyed lots of countries, their economies till last century.
During the world war 2, British government confiscated all the rice from the Bengal region to feed its soldiers, meanwhile because of this policy millions died, but nobody was hold accountable sadly.
@@johnmckiernan2176 You have seen my curriculum? How? In fact you have no idea what you´re talking about because you have no idea what I was taught or when.
We spent about 1 year learning about the British Empire, the Slave Triangle, the Raj, Ghandi and all sorts of things. The Irish famine was certainly mentioned, even if it wasn´t a specific module, however we did cover the Irish separation. And what I have to say growing up is that it is almost impossible to choose what to put into a syllabus, as it covers about 5000 years. However what we were taught was rather scaving about the British empire, and there was absolutely not a second where people said "You know what, it wasn´t much better before the Empire came either." The fact of the matter is, if you have a FULL understanding of history, the British Empire is one of the only empires in the world where the inheritors are actually embarrassed by some of the things it did. Name me one other? Any Saudis embarrased about the millions of slaves they took? Any Scandinavians embarrased by the massacres the vikings did? Any Italians ashamed of the Roman Empire? Any Turks afraid to mention the Ottomons? The fact of the matter is a lot of Irish people, and people of Irish origin have a very limited interest in history so all the things they hear seem like they have been the only people to suffer in the world.
The Irish famine was something that quite likely could have been mitigated with the resources available at the time. It is clear the administrators of the British Empire didn´t have any love of the average Irishman, but then why exactly does that differ from the mass rapes, executions and various methods of devastation the Normans, Vikings, Saxons and Romans perpetrated on the British Isles? Yet can you find me one British person who actively resents an Italian, a Swede, a Dane? Feel free to find British people who can´t have a civil conversation with a German and explain to me how the mechanism of responsibility works, where you can write off some things but can never forget others?
Another thing I´m rather curious to know, when everyone talks about how removing one historical factor would solve every problem, what exactly do you imagine would have happened had the British, inheriting the Normans acquisition of Ireland, after the British was invaded by Normans, hadn´t have held Ireland?
If you look at the historical factors of the time, it is most likely there would have been no glorious Irish nation, but in fact it would have been invaded by the Spanish, the Portugese or another colonial power.
Then you have to ask the actual question, which is, how exactly would Ireland have worked with such a huge population for its size under the rule of another nation? I hate to say it, but I think a lot of the issues that came up under British rule would have come up under anyone else´s.
Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional. There always would have been mass migration, I mean you are aware of a country called Sweden right? Who invaded them? Please tell me. How many people moved from Sweden to America? Well, one third of the population! Was it the British Empire´s fault? Must have been.
Don't forget about when the British Empire joined the War On Drugs, ... on the side of Drugs !
I love seeing a new video from this channel. I think Mike would be proud.
Michael Brooks?
@@IcarianX Mike Gravel. Brooks was also a great lefty.
I’ve always known my family fled to America due to starvation, but knowing… REALLY knowing why has fueled an anger I’ve never known.
😂😂😂 how old are you. Irish people think Americans are twats
Do you hate the present day UK? While anger is a more than deserved emotion to have learning this, especially finding out it directly impacted ur family, does that mean you hate current day Britain because of what our ancestors did 180 years ago?+🥺
Americans with an Irish ancestor from 200 years ago thinking they are Irish arguing with an English person with an Irish ancestor from 80 years ago is incredibly embarrassing.
@@issness_god ain’t that the truth pathetic
I've heard it all now . Bloody rediculos , it's like me saying I hate the romans ( Italians) for invading britain and murdering the native Britons) get a life ffs
Thank you professor. One of the greatest videos with true history I’ve ever seen. ❤
I'm happy as an Irish person that you made this video. I hope this video does well to hopefully end the hateful *jokes* about the famine such as "you're surrounded by an ocean why didn't you fish"
good point tho
@@lennon1482 the populous were riddled with cholera after 6 months of famine.
The fish caught was used to feed the starving but not enough to feed six million people daily.
This was amazingly informative, tear provoking and anger inciting. The greed of the British ruling class and aristocracy has no bounds. It continues to this day, and the culling of the poor through domestic costs of both energy and fuel. Rory, I take my hat off to you and the team for this great film. Thank you. An Irish Gal.
Great video, but maybe more explanation needed on why the Irish didn’t resort to other food sources like fishing etc, and why they didn’t revolt against the occupiers… the first answer being that rivers usually ran through land owned by landlords so they’d be shot for trying to fish there, sea wasn’t an option as most didn’t have fishing boats or equipment, the only thing they could do was scavenge shellfish. Why didn’t they revolt? They did, but the British were at that point one of the most powerful colonial forces in the world, they had all the best weapons, Ireland was a farming country that only ever fought domestic battles. So when Irish people tried to revolt against the British without adequate weapons, they didn’t stand a chance against the British war machine, and usually were shot or hanged. Same thing if they refused to leave their land, if they refused to pay rent or tax, if they refused to hand over their agricultural produce, if they “stole” food… shot, hanged, thrown in jail or sent on a jail ship to Australia…
Now, Australia won't even accept, diverting immigrants and refugees to a small island for detention. And most countries require money, health insurance, jobs, etc before allowing to live in the country.
Thanks for your comment. No one ever mentions this and it should be said.
The Fields of Athenry captures this quite well.
Basically they were stupid and didn't know how to hunt or fish. Always looking handouts and were to lazy to fend for their families. Nobody to blame but themselves. Pathetic when you think about it.
@@seanswilson That song is hauntingly beautiful and sad.
Thank you for producing this video. The famine is rarely discussed outside of and even in Ireland this is a well made video with great points and graphics, Good Job keep up the great work
I’m Irish and I still have trouble getting my own family to believe me when I tell them about this stuff.
Sadly 95% of this information is completely absent in Irish education, to the point that I know teachers whose first time hearing most of this was when I asked them how/what they teach about the famine.
How? To be fair I didn't know about it and I did O'Levels in Pakistan and we were taught world history, nothing about the potato famine.
Let me guess those history books were published in England…
Now tell me more about the Native American struggle to be free in their own front yard.
Never heard of the Choctaw donations extremely interesting.
Let me guess those history books were printed in America.
Wild. Assuming this is all true, perhaps your history curriculums should be reevaluated. Seems like something today's descendants ought to know.
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@@PerspectiveEngineer They weren't in our books in ireland, but some oral stories were passed down.
Irish history is a web of dehumanizing followed by rebellions and all throughout support for other oppressed people... then there were the times that poor irish were used as weapons like pawns against other ethnic groups, all orchestrated by the elite.
Also, Frederick Douglas received huge support from the irish.
Even our language, which was beaten out of us, punishable by death on and off throughout history if caught teaching it, held no room for ignorance and oppressing others.
Daoine goirme/gorma/gorm, in our native tongue shows even more that we would not know others negatively, as daoine dubh would be calling others a hateful thing, dubh being black, would imply a devil in our folklore, although it would be the accurate translation/description to the eye, it did not match the character of the people, so daoine goirme = Blue people.
Actually, the roots of the Irish genocide goes back to 1536, around the time of aftermath of the Kildare Rebellion, when the ninth earl of Kildare, Thomas Fitzgerald, also known as Silken Thomas, led a failed rebellion against Henry VIII two years earlier. After he was captured, Sir William Skeffington wrote a letter to Thomas Cromwell proposing the “plantation” of Ireland, which involved removing the entirety of the native Irish population and replace them with English planters. The first plantation was created in 1557 under Mary I in Counties Laois and Offaly, lands which were confiscated by Henry VIII. Over the intervening century, there were additional plantations and rebellions against those plantation, until in 1608, shortly after the Flight of the Earls in November 1607, did James VI/I was finally able to fulfil the dream of making Ireland a full planation nation and, over the next two centuries culminating in the Great Irish Genocide, did everything to drive the Irish people away from their lands. It was much more than just a land grab; it was nothing short of the destruction of Irish culture, most devastatingly, the near extinction of the Irish language. That Ireland has never recovered its original population from roughly 8 million is not a surprise. Ireland’s resources, such as timber, were taken, resulting in the near deforestation of the country which was, at one point, primarily forested. I could go on about the destruction of Ireland at the hands of the English empire.
It's really humbling now, to think back on watching Wolfwalkers and it's gorgeous animation. The mass deforestation was such a central visual theme, but the idea that the protagonists could just "run away deeper into the forest" wasn't really questioned... Such a haunting case of hind sight.
British empire*
Oh well, that's another country I can't visit anymore. India and Pakistan are off the list too. As an Englishman, I feel so evil! I may just burst into flames. Mwah ha haa....
Oliver Cromwell maybe?
English Empire? James IV/I is called that because he was the sixth king of Scotland. It was the British empire.
"They were advocates of a philosophy called 'laissez-faire', the idea that the free market, left alone, would solve virtually any problem."
Spoiler: It didn't work. Almost like problems created by humans don't magically solve themselves.
Repealing the Corn Laws did work, and only at the expense of Tory aristocrats.
@@alphamikeomega5728 You keep saying the same thing over and over again, to so, so many different people. Almost as if you have an agenda...
@@TheSuperRatt My agenda is anti-famine. The repeal of the Corn Laws was the main policy which helped end the famine, so I let people here know that, given that the video omitted it.
Laissez-faire is dysgenic in that it selects for a race of psychopaths.
I am the descendant of Indian indentured laborers that were brought to South Africa by the British. The effects of colonialism will live on for generations to come. I still feel the pain that my forefathers must have felt by the cruel British nation.
It's also important to note that many empires have existed throughout human history, each have committed atrocities. While they may not have impacted your country, that doesn't make it any better.
No country is perfect. I could list a number of empires/ normal countries who would have committed atrocities right of the bat. Just give me the word.
Also, by the way you sound, by referring "British nation" its as if you still think we today are just as cruel as we were back when your forefathers were alive??
Its like saying you hate Germany in 2022 purely for the fact of what the Nazis did in the 1940s.. how is that fair??
Blaming and hating current generations in 2022 just because of what our ancestors did over 200-400 years ago did? What fairness is there in that?
I'm sorry but what does a famine have to do with capitalism?If you think socialism is any better ask Ukrainians about 1930s.
@@AFT_05G it has everything to do with it. Capitalist were exporting food out of Ireland during the famine and why don't you learn the difference between socialism and communism.
Very well done!! So few people know about the truth behind the famine. I will definitely share this video.
Thanks very much!
There's another good one, have a look at the Indian famine. That was caused by Winston Churchill 😬
Thank you for this video.
I am a direct descendent of survivors of the Irish potato famine. Several years ago, I was at a conference where I met a member of the Choctaw. As we met, I said, “my great great great great grandfather thanks you’re great great great great grandfather.“ He smiled and nodded. The Irish and the Choctaw still have strong connections today. A former president of Ireland is an honorary member of the Choctaw tribe.
The potato is not native to Ireland, but came from the Americas. Although the famine was a problem, if it wasn’t for the potato it’s likely that even more Irish people would have died. Landlords permitted Irish people to grow potatoes in the plot of land containing their huts. Without that option things would’ve been even more dire. So, the Native Americans, by cultivating the potato, helped the Irish twice and will always deserve our gratitude.
Yeah theres a famous photo of Eamonn DeValera the first democratically elected leader of Ireland wearing a native american head dress. He was a New Yorker by birth and at the time was in the US seeking support for the Irish state which has only just been proclaimed. Its said that so many people turned up to hear his speeches the press asked if he intended to run for the american presidency.
Sadly while he did gain a lot of funding for the Irish cause (which is disputed) the US didnt recognise the Irish state.
@@Colin_Power
The US to Ireland and its people was a disgrace: they copied Britains treatment of the Irish, in America.
No famine in Ireland, it was genocide.
In April 2021 Irelands population reached 5 million for the first time since the famine. Had the famine not occurred we'd probably have a population of around 30 million today. Something to think about when they tell you that things that happened over a hundred years ago have no bearing on the world today.
The numbers of those that died, by one means our another, and those emigrated, sent to servitude, colonial prisons or used as canon fodder will never be known.
2million lost is the conservative number.
Some put irish population around 12-14million at the time.
I have come across the forgotten mass graves dotted around the countryside, humbling places.
Usually you will find some kind of holy shrine, a hawthorne tree or well nearby.
@@matthewbarry376 I think your way off tune here, modern status quo of the past 2 decades does not answer for 160+ years.
I Agree otherwise, 08 crisis forced more talented youth out overseas for many years.
there is societal issues now born up from the old periods and Troubles, with a big thanks to R Reagans tentacles of war and drugs.
My point? irelands talent, drive, will and determination has been packing its bags for a long, long time, leaving little left these days.
We've built nations infrastructure, business elsewhere.
@@matthewbarry376 No disagreement on the more recent decades, I emigrated from dublin at 20 back at the start of the 2010's, I seen the changes, and was one of the ones the govt would not allow to suceed at home, luke would sing rare auld times with much more sadness if he saw dublin today.
Why would you want such a high population on such a small and resource poor island?
@@danieleyre8913 8 million people live in new york city, with 300 square miles.
Ireland is 32,000 square miles.
I don see much for farms or food production in new york city, or any resource for that matter really.... resource poor, fool.
So glad you highlighted this issue outside of Ireland 🇮🇪 it's swept under the rug
This is why Irish people have such great takes about foreign policy especially Palestine because they went through very similar history and know there is a way out
Bro I straight up teared up when he spoke about Ireland repaying their favor to the Navajo people during covid
This was an education. A real eye opener, thank you.
As from India 🇮🇳 can know abt British colonial... ❤ Ireland 🇮🇪 from India 🇮🇳.
About 100 years later, the British ruler did the same to India. They starved millions to death. In the height of WW2, they stored food for soldier, that led to famous 1943 Bengal famine. Please make a video on this.
As an Irishmen I say Saige! For Britain to beg to its knees and If you face discrimination against Brit’s, call them m ducks cuz their mouths look like beaks.
Yeah us brits have a tendency to do that. My apologies for my ancestors’ behaviour.
my god, we were so so cruel! no wonder everyone hates us
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@@markwalsh4335 Its not really a british thing, but an imperialist thing. The French, Belgians, Dutch, Germans, Italians, and Japanese also wrung every penny worth of resource and food out of their colonies, causing many to starve.
Fun fact. Irish farms feed 50 million each day. There's only 7 million people in Ireland. The other 43 million people that we feed are British.
So if we ever wanted to start a famine in Britain, we would be very well placed to do so 😂
What food do you export to Britain in such quantities that would feed 43 million people in Britain? I never encounter Irish produce in shops here from one years end to the next. I have not even seen Kerrygold Butter on the shelves for years.
Seek help.
Doesn't it go something like...
"When your family has no potatoes
When your neighbors have no bread
Join together and
Eat the Rich
They always have enough in their bellies
For everyone to share"
Or something to that effect
Exactly, look at the sketches of the landlord collector and how fat he is. He looks delicious 😋
There was a similar but even more devastating Famine in the Bengal Province in India in 1770 three years after Bengal was taken over by the East India Company. The famine occurred due to natural reasons, but it was massively exacerbated by the policies of the East India Company which kept on increasing land taxes to increase its revenue to satisfy its investors. About 1/3rd of Bengal's population was wiped out, that is about 10 million people dead. Parts of the province were depopulated, and remained that way for decades. We still remember it here in Bengal. It was the year 1176 in the Bengali calendar. Important lessons for today's corporate driven world.
Gravel institute should make a video of this famine.
This really puts into context- all those old stone foundations from the flyover, the kind of thing you'd see and not really think about other then pretty landscapes before.
How many were once family homes from those who fled or died out entirely? It's... haunting.
This was probably the best and most honest irish video i have seen, the ottomans even tried to send food but victoria denied it as it outmatched her donations
No such thing as an honest Irish video.
@@gazzanorth4373 what?
@@k427poor ol Gazza's just the resident Gammon troll, obviously feels hard done by in life.
£500,000 (equivalent to around £52.26 million in 2019) was raised by the British Relief Association. Left out that fact
@@kazzi7887 BRA only ran for a year before the british gov decided the famine was over, Tbfh idek how they arrived at the idea that the famine was over despite it still hitting hard 😃🙂😐🤨
family grew up with the troubles in NI. My mother had her friend shot by british soldiers, just 15 years old. As well as being assaulted numerous times. The divide is still there today very much, still some people hold hate, how it can survive this long I don't know...
Usually forgiveness happens long after exploitation and murders by government policy and law enforcement thugs stop.
Minority populations everywhere don't really hold that much hate about what happened before we were born, but the crimes against us or our neighbors from our lifetime we don't easily forgive, or ever forget.
1000 years of brutal colonization doesn't go away in 3 or 4 generations. Especially since Ireland is not united yet. It may never be, the roots of those 1000 years are still there, in the North, and I'm sure in some other areas of Irish social life. That adds to the difficulty of healing the wound.
@@nunoalmeida2646 We will be united, demographics are destiny and the Nationalists in the North now have a 60/40 split in their favour. Loyalists will never recover this loss and they're slowly being replaced. British and Irish governments in private discussions, know full well this is coming. Trying to get a British PM who will preside over the handover is an entirely different matter.
Yeah i agree, and the UVF tried to bomb the Irish minister of foreign affairs 2 days ago as he met to help cross border relations .
@@samlosco8441 That is a greater European problem and not one confined to Ireland. In fact, Ireland was quite late to the game when it comes to mass migration...so it'll be easier than other countries to reverse this trend - we've done it once, we can go again. Look at London and Birmingham in the meantime; LOST...majority non English. Luton, Rotherham, Bradford and soon Leicester. We might have a fight on our hands, you lot have very survival at stake. Appreciate the smarmy condolences nonetheless.
I"am full blooded American Irish.72 years old growing up in New York When i was a little boy in the 50s the Old ones would ask me what do you want to do when you grow up? They would say "you want to kill a English man", They would hold me up and pass me around as i would say this.
Also in the 50s my Great Aunt Kate who was born in Ireland came to America. She had a sign in her coat closet that said no Irish need apply. She had ripped it out of a store that would not hire Her. She spent a night in jail for this. Thanks professor for adding some truth to history
. We should judge all people one at a time, but we should never FORGET.!!
Every year my grandma reminds me I'm Irish explaining how our ancestors came from Ireland to America because of the potato famine. A simple thing to remind but I didn't really think more upon it. I'm grateful that I could learn more about the history that I would have never learned in school and now I have an interest to keep looking into this history.
I learnt about the Irish Potatoes Famine at junior High School in Japan during the world history.
It was a long time ago but bring me back my memories that my teacher told us and pictures we saw in school book. I cannot recall British policy caused it.
It was the world history time, could not spend much time about it, perhaps. At the same time, we learnt about Irish people's immigration to US and where potatoes come from, originally from South America etc. Thank you very much for uploaded this interesting video.
I am watching from Japan.
Arigato samurai
Lol, But the Problem.. I bet you didn't learn anything about Japanese Imperial War crimes in China, Nanking rape crime, Death railway, Unit 731, Butcher of Manila, Death March.. List is long, horrible 10x worse than NAZIS.. But atleast they were tried and Entire German Generation knows.. But barely any JAPANESE knows None till this date.
@@sasmalprasanjit2764 You seems polluted by propaganda.
@@kafiamadeus9174wtf
thank you, as an Irishman it's good to hear that people are finally truly talking about this
The Irish sent droves of missionaries to my country back in the 19th century. They established a number of schools and accepted locals of all races and religions as students without hesitation. We are forever thankful to the Irish people for their love, service and contribution to our nation.
Where?
Where?
@@PotionForThought Malaysia (formerly British Malaya)
@@auliaali5197 Malaysia (formerly British Malaya)
@@brandenburg2388 i see, fellow neighbor. Indonesian here.
Wow! I had no idea that Britain played a major role in the famine! When I was growing up I was taught that a potato blight caused a massive famine and that it was an act of nature. Now that I know what REALLY happened I am appalled at the gross callousness of the British government back then. This is something that needs to be taught in all schools.
If you believe this bull your believe anything - the Irish have been whining about the British for eight hundred years...absolutely nothing in their history is attributed to the Irish or what they did.
You must not have known anyone of Irish decent when you were growing up.
The wheat and rye and barley were taken from Ireland to markets in Europe, the prices rose and the Irish could not afford it, they watched the ships sail away to foreign markets with their food.
I had tears in my eyes listening to this. Im a Gael, born in England. My ancestor baring my name left Ireland in the late 1840s. Married an Irish girl in Wales, moved to Newcastle had 8 children. That desperate young man, now has over a 1000 decendants on Tyneside, and many in Australia, the, USA and some in Ireland, as my sister married a man from Enniskillen. God bless the Gaels. Erin go bragh!
I live in Enniskillen, it's lovely! :)