Traded their best wr AND 2 first round one alrdy being a 1st overall pick. Ontop of that they gave up 2 2nd rounders as well 😂 panthers are cooked before the rebuild even started.
Acquiring and trading for receivers is a hell of a lot easier then trading for a QB, because well let’s be honest, who the hell is going to trade their top QB ? 😂, some decent receivers thoughhhh, moves can be made
No he is not cooked. He is unproven in the NFL. Most QBs need 3 NFL years of play to have a good idea of what you got. Yes, he had very little help. So that hurts him. I just hope he stays healthy so we can see what his future holds. #mattsstillbald
Unless they get better protection for him, he's cooked (as a starting QB). He can't win on his own. If he had time, it'd make all the difference in the World.
There is a reason Caleb Williams has contemplated staying an extra year, you always want to be careful about the situation you get out in. Going to a team that’s trading others to get you is a recipe for disaster.
Drake Maye is the best QB prospect in the draft. If Da Bears were smart they would take him if they want to move on from Fields and trade him to San Fran.
Pipsqueak had the best players in the country at every position group surrounding him his entire football career until now. It's obviously not realistic to do that in the NFL because the salary cap creates an even playing field. So now Pipsqueak is getting exposed because he's not a good NFL QB prospect. Nobody as puny as him has ever been successful in the Pros.
Bro Saying that Bryce woule have the same success on the Texans as CJ is just disrespectful to CJ and how good he is. The 2 games with Stroud out they could barely move the ball and struggled bad on offense. Stroud elevated the Texans and I doubt Bryce does that.
owner had a elite QB (stroud) in front of his face and went with the " dude ! he improvs at an elite level" bullcrap@@nataliedeyton6829 stroud has terrible wr's but when you throw elite into a tiny pocket even them wr' guys look good
No the owner recognized QB Young is super talented he really i... its just the next step for he will need time and talent but the boy I's Fye super FYE fr I believe give him time and chance he's the real deal
Great comparison. I feel for both of them because they may not have a career as a starting QB because of where they were drafted. Sometimes it's better to be drafted later and go to a better team. But they have no control over that unless they make noise about not playing for certain teams.
Man , The Bears are such a massive embarrassment.... Like how does a well known franchise that has plenty of money stay at the bottom of the barrel like that ?
@@davyboy9397 that’s the problem, they don’t have a lot of money. Most if not all of the other NFL owners made or are still making their billions outside of the NFL. The McCaskey’s only have the Bears so their pockets aren’t as deep as the other organizations. The McCaskey’s had a good run, but I think it’s time for new ownership.
The problem is that the Carolina Panthers have a Hands-On owner. That likes to make the big decisions kind of like Jerry Jones. Now that Dan Schneider is out of the NFL. Some say that David Tepper is now the worst owner in the NFL.
Then he had the nerve to fire his new Head Coach because he wanted Stroud, the QB with elite NFL traits, and the owner is getting exposed for forcing him to blow 3 first round picks drafting a puny undersized munchkin QB that can't survive unless they surround him with the best players.
@roris5882 can't survive? He's the only rookie QB who played 99% of this season. He was also sacked more than the rest. But guess who is still out there? Lol
@@tonyxiong4913 Pipsqueak always had the best players in the country surrounding him at Mater Dei and Bama. So now he's getting exposed because he has to play on an even playing field in the Pros. No QB as puny as him has ever been successful in the NFL.
Me personally I don’t think Bryce youngs cooked. We saw what the jags did a few years ago after Lawrence’s rookie season where they spent a ton of free agency money and turned his career around. If the panthers do the same Bryce young will be a stud
@@walter9243 Everyone knew AR and Levis were reaches. AR has elite athletic traits but he's not a good QB. He could be good if he ever develops and learns how to play the position. The Panthers passed on Stroud for Pipsqueak and now they are paying the price for it.
@@roris5882 Levis was a 2nd round pick how was he a reach? He was considered by some to be a 1st round prospect I agree about AR tho have no idea how he went #4
See that's the thing. Burrow came into the NFL and prior to injury....he passed the eye test. Stats and record aside....his rookie season, he looked great. He looked the part. Bryce never once passed the eye test since pre season. He does not look like he belongs out there. Same way Trevor Lawrence "never lost"....Bryce has never had to be the best player on his offense. He's used to having an OL that gives him 5 seconds of protection. WRs who outrun anybody and a RB who takes checkdowns another 10 yards. LSU and GA literally showed the game plan on how to beat Bryce. Pressure up the middle....keep the edge contained. Make him stay in the pocket where he can't see nor make the power throws on target beyond 10 yards.
@@xisojoe-5304 what's your point? I'm saying, you can't use the excuse of an OL because Burrow also didn't have an OL, hell it was worse, yet he still produced. Burrow was on pace for 4500 yards and 22 TDs to 8 ints.
I can honestly see what Caleb Williams is talking about when he says he doesn’t what to go to a bad team! Bryce’s situation couldn’t be worse right now.
All top teir QBs that are drafted early go to bad teams. It's always been like that. Unfortunately Pipsqueak is too puny and weak to be successful in the Pros. Having a perfect offense, like he has had he's entire football career, isn't realistic in the NFL. He wasn't even that good during his last season at Bama and his Heisman year he was just throwing Hail Mary's to Jamo because he was faster then most of the DBs covering him.
CJ Stroud also went to a bad team. Also a whole bunch of great QBs went to "bad teams". Peyton Manning went to a bad team. Joe Burrow went to a bad team. Troy Aikman went to a bad team.
I’m a lifelong Lions… fan? Ugh, it’s been a LONG 46 years, fandom and the Lions has been impossible for a long time. Detroit has been the team good players go to die for decades. Part of the reason I’m a far bigger college football fan is how bad the Lions have been my entire life. I was at the last playoff game they won in the Silverdome, I WAS A KID! My son is significantly older than I was then and… nothing but misery. Plus I went to Michigan, was a sophomore in 1997… so of course I like the college game more! But the point is, this could be far longer than a couple of years. It’s been DECADES for us in Detroit. I can’t even get excited about the playoffs this year because… they’ve won ONE PLAYOFF GAME IN MY LIFETIME! I’m technically able to retire in five years! Poor Bryce indeed. Bad organizations can be bad for decades. Soul-suckingly bad.
Pulling for the Lions. The NFL powers definitely don't want them in a SB which makes me cheer for them even more and anybody but The 49ers or The Eagles....
Texans looked awful without CJ stroud in the 3 games this year without him… bro doesn’t have any weapons either.. his best weapon is a rookie WR who’s barely 6ft tall and is now out for the season… CJ Stroud was always the better passing and the better QB going into the draft
@@CJGJprods Young has 2 pro bowl WRs, Stroud has 0. I fully believe that if stroud was on the panthers they would have won at least 5 games. Young's inability to create plays on the pro level is magnified by the fact that he doesnt have the physical gifts to make up for it. While obviously Young's situation is not helping, he deserves a large serving of blame.
@@rickybobby5253The pro bowlers on the Panthers are passed their prime though. And 5 games? That's still terrible. Bryce is not the only problem on this team.
Facts good qb play elevate the others around them bryce need the others around him to elevate him its a difference, this aint college or 7 on 7 where guys pick where they wanna go to create advantages the nfl rosters are ment to be as close to fair as possible so the mass majority of the time u goin against equal talent or talent unlike college where 90 percent of the time you have one talent than your opponent like at bama
He has too many obstacles to overcome here is the list 1 his small size 2 his arm is not nfl qb 3 his owner d Tepper 4 lack of talent around him 5 line can’t hold blocks long enough for him to find a lane to see through 6 no quality coach coming to work for Tepper anytime soon 7 no talented wide receiver free agent going to come play with a weak arm qb or the Teppers 8 Bama homers like yourself keep pushing he is a nfl top qb when he clearly is not - basing your optimism on 1 performance on a weak Green Bay defense - there is not enough help in the league for him to be a top qb - Keep beating that dead horse he is a flat out bust that the Teppers forced down everybody s throat- dude can’t play for anyone in the league and the panthers can’t dump him on anyone Only hope for team is sign a prove FA qb willing to come here - good luck finding one Roll tide I guess
It’s always excuses for him, all I hear is “no help”…. no Bryce just played like trash plain and simple, I think he’ll be a star, and he’ll play better next year.
I'll never understand why franchise trade everything to move up in a draft, then give him zero help. Get him an O-line, get him a stud receiver, improve the running game. Like WTF are the panthers thinking? Are they just in the market of ruining young players career's before they start?
Especially for an unproven munchkin QB like Pipsqueak. It's not like he has the elite QB traits like Drake Maye, with multiple years of carrying a mediocre team on his back. Pipsqueak wasn't even that good when he had the best of everything surrounding him.
Let’s hope Brice Young’s history of success will help him through this season. Football is the ultimate team sport. If you don’t have a coach, offensive coordinator, offensive line, wide receivers, and a quarterback, you’re not going to do well. While we all struggle at times, here is my advice: while winning is a great healer, failure is a great teacher. If you can learn from your mistakes you will win in the long term. At the same time, we all have egos. It is a test of character just how much truth we can take. I don’t know just how much of this is Brice Young’s fault. Brice Young should take as much responsibility for the situation as he can. But, don’t put the weight of the world on your shoulders. It’s a difficult position to be in. As a side note, last year CJ Stroud with Ohio State should have been National Champions. In my opinion, CJ Stroud’s performance with the Texans proves it and proved CJ Stroud was the better quarterback.
Bryce Young sole alleged elite skill was "processing", a myth that was blown to smithereens last year. He literally has the worst physical traits in the history NFL at the QB position. He also is not elite in terms of arm talent and speed. What could possibly go wrong?
Once again it is proven that what team drafts you significantly dictates how your professional career will turn out. Some teams are where QBs go to die. Your head coach makes has a gigantic inpact as well...
There are NFL franchises whose condition is such that a top prospect should not play for them. Indy with Luck, for example. Carolina. Others. It can end your potential career.
The one advantage to having a QB in his rookie contract is supposed to be his salary is low enough to surround him with good weapons. Then as he gets more experience in his next contract he doesn't need quite that level of weapons. That formula has been true for ages but somehow the Patriots and Panthers both thought they could skip the weapons and both probably ruined any chance for the QBs.
Calling any rookie a bust after a season is crazy. But it's REALLY hard to envision this situation in Carolina getting better. Call me crazy but hiring a top coach and gm won't matter as long as that Dumb mf'er Tepper is owning the team.
Pipsqueak looks like he is regressing. If they didn't waste 3 first round picks moving up to the #1 pick then they would have been able to select a better QB in this draft class because it's way better. They could have had Stroud or Drake Maye, if they waited until this season.
@@roris5882You realize Stroud was either going 1st or 2nd. Which means in order to get Stroud, they would've had to trade up aswell (same way they got Bryce). Which means Stroud would be going into this clown show Carolina is right now, if they took him.
There qb’s in their rookie seasons are all in somewhat, if not wholly, bad situations. Bryce, Will, even Trevor in his 1st year or so, are trying to develop their games so that they can help their teams but have next to no weapons or help during games. Offensive lines are terrible.
As a panthers fan this situation makes no sense to me. At the end of the 2022 season our offensive line was top ten in evey category and now the same personel are in the bottom of every category including the 2nd worst pass blocking... there has to be something fundamentally wrong with the scheme that Frank Reich employed... i hope that we can trade people like brian burns and jeremy chin who barley played this season for some good picks to help get good personnel around Bryce #MattBeMadThatMattBeBald
Pipsqueak can't even see over the line of scrimmage. He has to flee out of the pocket just to see down field. His style of play isn't conducive with successful NFL offenses because his O-Line can't protect him while he's running directly into the defensive schemes they dial up to easily defeat his predictable play.
@@roris5882 his offensive line at Bama was taller and weighed more on average than Carolinas and no if you actually watch the games he doesn't run out of the pocket unless nothing is open like every other quarterback in the league, he actually plays pretty well when he has time to throw and is in the top 10 on completion percentage to open recivers
@@kingwhiskey2321 Well now he has freak athletes at every defensive position trying to destroy him every snap and he's realizing he's not good enough because he built up false confidence when he had better players then all his opponents.
@@roris5882 His stats are comparable with other quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen, and Joe burrows rookie years outside of wins and loses? The real difference is Bryce has already been sacked 60 times this season which is 10th in NFL history, there has never been a quarterback where his offense line and weapons were this bad and that quarterback was successful, yes Byrce has made mistakes EVERY rookie makes mistakes but acting like he's a bust already when everyone around him has under performed? Complete None sense
I disagree. Number one picks almost never go to good situations. At first young QB's make a few things happen and progress is built with better development and improving personnel. Carolina went from 7-10 to 2-14. That's not all Bryce Young. But it also means he is not helping the situation. I always thought he was too small for the NFL and he plays much smaller than I expected. Carolina has to give him another year, but I think Broadcaster Bryce is coming sooner than we want.
I agree the team is basically the same except no dj Moore i expected a lil let down but to look that bad and to make such bad reads and poor throws is all on bryce I see journey man back up then cfl in the near future
Bryces ceiling was college. He only wins when he has superior talent. CJ Stroud makes the players around him better. The NFL is about arm talent and Bryce doesn't have it. He's smaller than Drew Brees and his arm is worse.
if you were to flip cj and young.....panthers would have at least 5 -6 wins...sorry. CJ's talent is BY FAR a superior NFL talent than Young. Bryce Young is ABSOLUTELY cooked!!!!!
The panthers don't suck bryce young sucks no teams has 3 all pro WRs and 4 to 5 pro bowl linemen if he had a bigger better arm and dropped back to proper depth he wouldn't get sacked so much cj stroud throwing to 5'8 170 lbs rookie, a under achieving nico Collins, and a 4th or 5th option WR the cowboys gave up on so let that sink in
Some players got that dawg in them and some don’t. Bryce was a good player only because he played on good teams. Now you see the real deal. I like Bryce but he is just too small for the nfl. We fumbled the bag on this one. We gave up too much for Bryce
This is why Eli manning had his dad change where he went in his first year. But I have beleive in Young. They won't have a great season next year but they will win a lot more games. He will get some help and you notice the differnece.
Wasting 3 first round picks to draft a puny undersized munchkin QB was ridiculous. Especially since Stroud, the QB with elite NFL traits, was available and the QB the recently fired new Head Coach wanted. The owner fell for that ridiculous Bama/SEC propaganda when Stroud torched UGA's elite defense, loaded with NFL players, in the Peach Bowl.
Terribly insulting to CJ Stroud. It’s not like he was walking into a great situation either. You flip flop qbs and I’d bet my salary CJ had the Panthers competing for a division title. He’s that good. Big, tall, great throwing motion. Makes players around him better. Bryce’s skills don’t translate to the NFL and it’s showed. No one should ever call themselves a draft expert when they’re pushing a 5’8 QB with average arm talent and decent mobility as the number one pick over a player like Stroud.
Bryce is small and taking a ton of hits..... when I first saw him in a helmet practicing for the Panthers, I was like wow.... looks like a teenager lol... Panthers will ruin him
No QB his size has ever been successful in the Pros because he can't even see over the line of scrimmage. That's why he has to scramble out of clean pockets just to see down field. All defenses have to do is keep him in the pocket and tackle him when he runs directly into their arms while they are waiting for him.
Bryce is totally not cooked. Just playing for a AWFUL team. Put him on a decent team and he'll shine like CJ Stroud. The things everyone said about Bryce is that he was to small, not durable enough, etc. He got David Carr pounded and held up way beyond anyone's expectations. Sure he got injured and was in and out of the lineup but he NEVER punked out and shyed away from trying to play despite knowing the punishment and lack of talent around him top to bottom.
bullshit. Stroud is on a bad team too. Houston was worse than Panthers last season. Houston has looked bad in the games Stroud missed. You guys just want to make excuses for him
@@tomdemay6147bs...you talking about last year! This year's 53man roster who you want...Texans or Panthers? Coaching staff, Texans or Panthers?? Bryce was set up to fail from the jump. Stroud went to competent staff that built everything around his strengths just as they would of if Bryce dropped to them instead. Stroud would of been floundering too if he'd been drafted by the Panthers...no cap!!!!
5'10" is awfully short for a modern pro quarterback in the NFL. Pat Haden was 5'11" and was routinely terrorized by the taller defensive ends and tackles, like Too Tall Jones, that he just couldn't see over. CJ Stroud is 6'3" - almost half a foot taller. That's a huge difference. Size matters in the NFL. Another huge difference between them is that CJ Stroud had to struggle a lot more to accomplish what he did, and to get to the NFL - CJ went to a public high school, although a good one for sports and academics, it was nothing like Mater Dei, where Bryce Young went to, which is the finishing school for top high school athletes, especially football players, in Southern Cal. I think in the end, Bryce Young is going to be at best a mediocre quarterback in the NFL, like a lot of Heisman Trophy winners who didn't turn out to be stars in the NFL, it was because they were always surrounded by terrific players who helped them to look good, and then once those players were no longer there, you finally see the real player that's there, all by himself, and he's no where near as good as you thought he was.
Bro, no hes not...its his first year he will get better look at some of the other balling rookie qbs...joe burrow, Trevor Lawrence etc they all went a couple 2-3 years before they got it under control...he will be fine...the owner sucks, the GM sucks and hes already had different head coaches no wonder why hes having trouble
The Panthers have demonstrated just how much poor roster management and bad coaching can impact a team. The GM bragged we were a QB away, then traded away the best offensive weapons on the team without replacing them (CMC and DJ Moore). They also, imo fairly, assumed that the Oline that ended the year strong in 22 would be good in 23. The line regressed and suffered from incessant injuries. 9 starting LG and 8 RG isnt a recipe for success. The coaching staff was constructed with coaches that had never worked together and had sometimes opposing opinions about how to run the offense. Reich developed a playbook that did not work with the players that the team had, instead the scheme was built for the team that the coaches wanted instead of who they had. It will be a 2 year rebuild, at least, to fix the offense. The sad fact is that BY9 had approximately 500 pass attempts with 300 completions. 62 sacks and 54 throwaways make up over half of his incompletions, which is insane to think about. The below average WR play has made it worse. Dont pretend the guy wasn't a good prospect and a unanimous 1.1 or 1.2 pick depending onthe team. The Panthers built a poor roster with a poor scheme and I doubt any QB would have thrived this season. Before you casuals say "but what about Dalton in week 3" He had 58 pass attempts and a 6.2 YPA average... Bryce had a 5.6 YPA even though his ADOT was 9 yards.
This is why I personally don’t like the NFL compared to college Due to the draft and trading system there are so many times where true and genuine raw talent goes to waist.
As an example of how bad the supporting team was around Bryce, look no further than week 18. The Panthers were shut out, again, and he had 0 TDs and sub 100 yards. He had 3 receivers drop the ball, he got robbed of a touchdown by Chark diving for the endzone (from the 4...) and fumbling. The Panthers missed a FG with the back up kicker, and then a WR lined up wrong causing a 26 yard rushing TD to get called back. The Panthers season could be summed up as underperforming and self inflicted wounds. The games Bryce looked best were the games that the supporting cast started to perform, and even in those games it was seldom for more than a quarter or 2 drives. He led the team on multiple game winning drives and he does have that IT factor. If he can get support from coaching and the rest of the offense, he can be a top 10 QB in the league. If he doesn't get support, he likely wont survive to a 3rd season as its already a miracle he didn't get hurt after 60+ sacks and 100+ hits.
Saying he didn’t need help throughout his career starting in middle school is laughable Did he block? Catch passes and throw, it’s a team sport he didn’t do this all on his own. As a former Offensive/defensive lineman who blocked/played with 2-3 MAC (Div. 1) football athletes. If it wasn’t for the team, they wouldn’t have got those options to play ply division one football
I would not say he's cooked. Look at Steve young, he actually struggled with the Buccaneers and ended up turning it around with the 49ers. Maybe Bryce young will have the same opportunity with somebody
I’m a panthers guy, lived down here most of my life. They could have Tom Brady and it would be the same story. I don’t know what to make of Bryce Young, but this is the worst team I’ve ever followed
Bryce is a very unique , miniature athlete similar to Doug Flutie . Is he a legitimate high-end NFL QB ? No . I would have never considered drafting him any earlier than the 4th round . How can I make such a statement ? Easy . He's too short , too small and most importantly he cannot see the field . Bryce actually regularly breaks down the timing of plays . The end result is endless inconsistency . While he was at Alabama , I felt we were beatable in nearly every game he started . From time to time ha can be accurate . However , when compared to Tua or even Mac , he's falls well short . So , he's not consistent , breaks down a high percentage of plays , not highly accurate and plays with no emotion to inspire the players around him . Athletes can win games , but rarely do they ever win championships . Remember this - Improvisation is the enemy of consistency and therefore the best friend of defeat . How long could he last in the NFL ? My guess is he ends up broken down within 4.5 to 6 years .
Ryan Day develops QB's for the NFL. Justin Fields was a backup to Jake Fromm and now Fromm isn't even in the NFL until an injury of a low stringer caused him to be called up...CJ Stroud did not need to be developed in the NFL much at all and has had the best season of any NFL Rookie in the history of the NFL. I would not compare anyone to him. It's not fair.
Get him a WR’s and TE and oline y’all would be good . Uses yall assets yall have player yall can move on from and trade in the draft Tee Higgins Mike Evan’s Mike Williams Michael Pittman Jr Hollywood brown Darnell moody Gabe Davis Obj Cavin Ridley Are some free agent WR this year will have to throw a bag to land own
Don't know what u r all smoking down there I Carolinas how can anyone take this dude serious for five seconds he don't won't or can't throw the air distance over forty yards I can throw over 55 this is a problem because defense gets to negate there responsibility for half the field I don't get what all my this round and round talk is about. Come back when he throws over forty yards in air stop insulting our intelligence anybody that doesn't know that hasn't watched enough football it's sickening sorry
He should demand a trade to the XFL so he doesn't end up in the ER every week. But only to a team that has the best offensive players in the league or he will be in the exact same position.
What trade value would 5'9 175 lbs qb with a below to barely average arm and not that fast to be that small good luck with that be lucky to get a 6th round pick
@@jmoney5350 line not as bad as people think its the same line from the previous year that wasn't labeled the worse line in history also the same line andy dalton was behind where he had enough time to throw for over 350 yards against a solid Seattle defense where bryce young struggles to get 200 yards week in and week out, and dude definitely not 190 lbs tyreek hill 190 and bryce is no where near as thick and jacked up as cheetah bro look a couple lbs bigger than tank dell
This is why dual threat QB such as Lamar Jackson are becoming such a hot commodity. Young literally has no O line what so ever. A dual threat QB can at least thrice in these type of situation’s 6:19 .
In regards to "what if" CJ Stroud and Bryce Young switched teams... I think Stroud would be better than Young in Carolina. Good and bad situations will definitely reflect upon performance but CJ Stroud has proven to be more prepared for the NFL than Bryce Young. He deserves a lot of credit.
That's how they have parity and why it's an even playing field. Just as long as the refs aren't swaying games like the league wants to maximize revenue.
A bruising short yardage RB would go a long way. Also Brady Christianson was a big loss and undervalued. He is not a game changer but he is a lunch pail reliable guard and I feel he is a better LT than Ikey... which doesn't take much.
College football is the way to go for the big money makers. They can pick the team they are on. They play 12 games instead of 18 and many of those games are against horrible teams as opposed to pro. The body beatings are way less in 6 less games against so-so teams.
Sad. He should have stayed at Bama for his last year to focus on bulking up and developing himself more. I wish all players would quit declaring early.
Back in the old days the quarterbacks had to worry about how good their offensive line was or wide receivers now it's the owners that you got to watch out for
@@roris5882Dude... A QB without an Oline is 100% doomed. Even a great QB will 100% struggle if the front five can’t consistently open holes for running backs or keep the opposing front seven out of the offensive backfield. The QB will get very jumpy/nervous and be prone to inaccuracy & making bad throws as he’ll always have one eye on the opposing pass rush instead of focussing all his attention on his receivers. From there, you’ll get an offense that can’t move the ball consistently and thus score points, whilst the defense will wear down from spending too much on the field. So, you need to have a line that can at least hold its own in the running game and be able to pass block for long enough to give the QB enough time to set his feet in the pocket and throw when he wants to rather than having to unload early to avoid getting hit. Burrow was sacked like 50+ times one season which is probably why he's injured now...😑
Most teams are built ass backwards. First you need an offensive line, then backs, a great one and a good one, a tight end. then an receiver. When you have all that find a QB that fits your team. In the history of Carolina they have been content to play a field goal game with a great defense. When you don't have a great defense you got to score touchdowns at least 4 a game. I'm local to Charlotte but I could never get into watching them, It has always been more of a soccer match then a football game. Carolina's motto is "Keep Pounding (keep trying). To me if you get the same result that"s insanity. Change the motto to "Get'er Done", that's my advise for the next coach.
Being known as a “Champion” addresses his winning career until the NFL. BUT, it also encompasses many other attributes that Bryce has honed in his career that have contributed to his success. He is mentally tough and does not panic in any situation. We have seen that vividly during his career at Alabama. He is even tempered and has a strong family support system that bolsters his confidence. He believes in his abilities and works very hard to improve any flaws in his game. It would be great if his new head coach would be more like Mike McDonald that has made such a difference in Tua’s performance and, of course, improving the cast of players around him. So, Bryce is a champion and he will weather this storm by following “The Process” that he learned from The Goat.
The Cardinals ruined Jake Plummer putting him in too soon with an O-line that couldn't protect him. Moving to Denver didn't help much. Arizona wasn't done there, they took a top-rated QB from USC and straight-up ruined him too. I can't think of his name for some reason. He ended up as a backup at the Texans. Matt Leinart was his name if I remember correctly. With a decent O-line, a decent QB is going to have teething pains. A bad O-line will destroy good QBs.
He's never going to be on a team like Bama or Mater Dei with the talent disparity he needs to be successful in the Pros. Plus he's too puny and delicate to survive the physicality.
I think if they traded to a team like Denver, New Orleans, New York Jets or Las Vegas he could be saved but we know how that will not happen. I think maybe the new Head Coach needs to rebuild that O-line he needs a running game that can ground up yards and clock a solid tight end and well hell a new offense period.
How the Panthers thought trading their best receiver to acquire Bryce Young would put him in a good position is asinine.
Yes, that was very inept..... Adam thielen a #2 is his primary target
Because they thought Bryce was Steph and could elevate anyone
Traded their best wr AND 2 first round one alrdy being a 1st overall pick. Ontop of that they gave up 2 2nd rounders as well 😂 panthers are cooked before the rebuild even started.
@@Texansfan59 yep, they gotta hit on EVERY PICK as a starter or special teams contributor. No time for slackers on that roster 😂....
Acquiring and trading for receivers is a hell of a lot easier then trading for a QB, because well let’s be honest, who the hell is going to trade their top QB ? 😂, some decent receivers thoughhhh, moves can be made
No he is not cooked. He is unproven in the NFL. Most QBs need 3 NFL years of play to have a good idea of what you got. Yes, he had very little help. So that hurts him. I just hope he stays healthy so we can see what his future holds.
#mattsstillbald
#mattbestillbald*
Unless they get better protection for him, he's cooked (as a starting QB). He can't win on his own. If he had time, it'd make all the difference in the World.
There is a reason Caleb Williams has contemplated staying an extra year, you always want to be careful about the situation you get out in. Going to a team that’s trading others to get you is a recipe for disaster.
Williams was definitely lying lmao
Drake Maye is the best QB prospect in the draft. If Da Bears were smart they would take him if they want to move on from Fields and trade him to San Fran.
@@roris5882Drake Maye is hella overrated, Penix is better
The number one over all pick is always screwed.
@@roris5882 why would the 49ers want Fields? Purdy is better than him
He needs weapons and a good offensive line point blank period
Cj strouds made weapons I don’t want hear that
Pipsqueak had the best players in the country at every position group surrounding him his entire football career until now. It's obviously not realistic to do that in the NFL because the salary cap creates an even playing field. So now Pipsqueak is getting exposed because he's not a good NFL QB prospect. Nobody as puny as him has ever been successful in the Pros.
@@roris5882as soon as the ball snapped it’s 2nd down that boy need an oline above all else
@@roris5882and you think CJ Stroud didn’t have some of the best players in the country around him either?
@@Swavorshushyea because he had a decent offensive line Lol
Bro Saying that Bryce woule have the same success on the Texans as CJ is just disrespectful to CJ and how good he is. The 2 games with Stroud out they could barely move the ball and struggled bad on offense. Stroud elevated the Texans and I doubt Bryce does that.
The head coach of the Carolina Panthers didn’t want Bryce Young as the number one pick he wanted CJ Stroud but the owner overruled him.
The owner is the problem
owner had a elite QB (stroud) in front of his face and went with the " dude ! he improvs at an elite level" bullcrap@@nataliedeyton6829 stroud has terrible wr's but when you throw elite into a tiny pocket even them wr' guys look good
No the owner recognized QB Young is super talented he really i... its just the next step for he will need time and talent but the boy I's Fye super FYE fr I believe give him time and chance he's the real deal
Ima Auburn fan too
So you think putting CJ in the same situation would’ve been better? Gtfo I’m glad he didn’t go to the Panthers he deserves better
This reminds me of the situation with Justin Fields. No o line, no weapons, bad organization and two HCs and OCs in his first two years.
No picks eather
Daniel jones was in same spot for years but gets blamed when he gets sacked 11 times game
Great comparison. I feel for both of them because they may not have a career as a starting QB because of where they were drafted. Sometimes it's better to be drafted later and go to a better team. But they have no control over that unless they make noise about not playing for certain teams.
Man , The Bears are such a massive embarrassment.... Like how does a well known franchise that has plenty of money stay at the bottom of the barrel like that ?
@@davyboy9397 that’s the problem, they don’t have a lot of money. Most if not all of the other NFL owners made or are still making their billions outside of the NFL. The McCaskey’s only have the Bears so their pockets aren’t as deep as the other organizations. The McCaskey’s had a good run, but I think it’s time for new ownership.
The problem is that the Carolina Panthers have a Hands-On owner. That likes to make the big decisions kind of like Jerry Jones. Now that Dan Schneider is out of the NFL. Some say that David Tepper is now the worst owner in the NFL.
Then he had the nerve to fire his new Head Coach because he wanted Stroud, the QB with elite NFL traits, and the owner is getting exposed for forcing him to blow 3 first round picks drafting a puny undersized munchkin QB that can't survive unless they surround him with the best players.
@roris5882 can't survive? He's the only rookie QB who played 99% of this season. He was also sacked more than the rest. But guess who is still out there? Lol
@@tonyxiong4913 Pipsqueak always had the best players in the country surrounding him at Mater Dei and Bama. So now he's getting exposed because he has to play on an even playing field in the Pros. No QB as puny as him has ever been successful in the NFL.
Me personally I don’t think Bryce youngs cooked. We saw what the jags did a few years ago after Lawrence’s rookie season where they spent a ton of free agency money and turned his career around. If the panthers do the same Bryce young will be a stud
the difference is night and day
Lawrence always had elite NFL traits. Pipsqueak is too puny and weak to be successful in the Pros. That's why he isn't cooked, he's fried.
@@roris5882 Those 59 sacks, and him not being injured says otherwise. Where's AR and Levis at? And mind you, they're 6'4 220+lbs.
@@walter9243 Everyone knew AR and Levis were reaches. AR has elite athletic traits but he's not a good QB. He could be good if he ever develops and learns how to play the position. The Panthers passed on Stroud for Pipsqueak and now they are paying the price for it.
@@roris5882 Levis was a 2nd round pick how was he a reach? He was considered by some to be a 1st round prospect
I agree about AR tho have no idea how he went #4
Burrow had no problem as a rookie even though he was killed behins his OL.
Dude is too small.
See that's the thing. Burrow came into the NFL and prior to injury....he passed the eye test. Stats and record aside....his rookie season, he looked great. He looked the part. Bryce never once passed the eye test since pre season. He does not look like he belongs out there. Same way Trevor Lawrence "never lost"....Bryce has never had to be the best player on his offense. He's used to having an OL that gives him 5 seconds of protection. WRs who outrun anybody and a RB who takes checkdowns another 10 yards. LSU and GA literally showed the game plan on how to beat Bryce. Pressure up the middle....keep the edge contained. Make him stay in the pocket where he can't see nor make the power throws on target beyond 10 yards.
joe burrow missed more games then bryce young…
@@xisojoe-5304 what's your point? I'm saying, you can't use the excuse of an OL because Burrow also didn't have an OL, hell it was worse, yet he still produced. Burrow was on pace for 4500 yards and 22 TDs to 8 ints.
Only five interceptions for a rookie quarterback is crazy and I believe three of those came in one game
its because alot of the times he doesn't even get a chance to throw the ball.
I can honestly see what Caleb Williams is talking about when he says he doesn’t what to go to a bad team! Bryce’s situation couldn’t be worse right now.
All top teir QBs that are drafted early go to bad teams. It's always been like that. Unfortunately Pipsqueak is too puny and weak to be successful in the Pros. Having a perfect offense, like he has had he's entire football career, isn't realistic in the NFL. He wasn't even that good during his last season at Bama and his Heisman year he was just throwing Hail Mary's to Jamo because he was faster then most of the DBs covering him.
CJ Stroud also went to a bad team. Also a whole bunch of great QBs went to "bad teams". Peyton Manning went to a bad team. Joe Burrow went to a bad team. Troy Aikman went to a bad team.
It's his play that made things this terrible. It's all on him.
I’m a lifelong Lions… fan? Ugh, it’s been a LONG 46 years, fandom and the Lions has been impossible for a long time. Detroit has been the team good players go to die for decades. Part of the reason I’m a far bigger college football fan is how bad the Lions have been my entire life. I was at the last playoff game they won in the Silverdome, I WAS A KID! My son is significantly older than I was then and… nothing but misery. Plus I went to Michigan, was a sophomore in 1997… so of course I like the college game more!
But the point is, this could be far longer than a couple of years. It’s been DECADES for us in Detroit. I can’t even get excited about the playoffs this year because… they’ve won ONE PLAYOFF GAME IN MY LIFETIME! I’m technically able to retire in five years! Poor Bryce indeed. Bad organizations can be bad for decades. Soul-suckingly bad.
As a panthers fan, this is a hard pill to swallow but I’m aware it’s the truth .
Pulling for the Lions. The NFL powers definitely don't want them in a SB which makes me cheer for them even more and anybody but The 49ers or The Eagles....
Texans looked awful without CJ stroud in the 3 games this year without him… bro doesn’t have any weapons either.. his best weapon is a rookie WR who’s barely 6ft tall and is now out for the season… CJ Stroud was always the better passing and the better QB going into the draft
You realize that the panthers are also 100% worse than the Texans.
@@CJGJprods Young has 2 pro bowl WRs, Stroud has 0. I fully believe that if stroud was on the panthers they would have won at least 5 games. Young's inability to create plays on the pro level is magnified by the fact that he doesnt have the physical gifts to make up for it. While obviously Young's situation is not helping, he deserves a large serving of blame.
@@rickybobby5253The pro bowlers on the Panthers are passed their prime though. And 5 games? That's still terrible. Bryce is not the only problem on this team.
Nico Collins and Tank Dell are for real but you can definitely make a Case that CJ Makes those guys better
Facts good qb play elevate the others around them bryce need the others around him to elevate him its a difference, this aint college or 7 on 7 where guys pick where they wanna go to create advantages the nfl rosters are ment to be as close to fair as possible so the mass majority of the time u goin against equal talent or talent unlike college where 90 percent of the time you have one talent than your opponent like at bama
He has too many obstacles to overcome here is the list
1 his small size
2 his arm is not nfl qb
3 his owner d Tepper
4 lack of talent around him
5 line can’t hold blocks long enough for him to find a lane to see through
6 no quality coach coming to work for Tepper anytime soon
7 no talented wide receiver free agent going to come play with a weak arm qb or the Teppers
8 Bama homers like yourself keep pushing he is a nfl top qb when he clearly is not - basing your optimism on 1 performance on a weak Green Bay defense - there is not enough help in the league for him to be a top qb -
Keep beating that dead horse he is a flat out bust that the Teppers forced down everybody s throat- dude can’t play for anyone in the league and the panthers can’t dump him on anyone
Only hope for team is sign a prove FA qb willing to come here - good luck finding one
Roll tide I guess
He is NOT an NFL QB. He’s a running back, receiver , CB, S, special team holder. Why did anybody in the world think he can play QB in the nfl ?
It’s always excuses for him, all I hear is “no help”…. no Bryce just played like trash plain and simple, I think he’ll be a star, and he’ll play better next year.
I'll never understand why franchise trade everything to move up in a draft, then give him zero help. Get him an O-line, get him a stud receiver, improve the running game. Like WTF are the panthers thinking? Are they just in the market of ruining young players career's before they start?
Especially for an unproven munchkin QB like Pipsqueak. It's not like he has the elite QB traits like Drake Maye, with multiple years of carrying a mediocre team on his back. Pipsqueak wasn't even that good when he had the best of everything surrounding him.
Because he was supposed to be the messiah
Saying Bryce would do the same as Stroud in Houston. Is a ridiculous statement. You also can’t say Stroud would be the same in Carolina.
Let’s hope Brice Young’s history of success will help him through this season. Football is the ultimate team sport. If you don’t have a coach, offensive coordinator, offensive line, wide receivers, and a quarterback, you’re not going to do well. While we all struggle at times, here is my advice: while winning is a great healer, failure is a great teacher. If you can learn from your mistakes you will win in the long term. At the same time, we all have egos. It is a test of character just how much truth we can take. I don’t know just how much of this is Brice Young’s fault. Brice Young should take as much responsibility for the situation as he can. But, don’t put the weight of the world on your shoulders. It’s a difficult position to be in. As a side note, last year CJ Stroud with Ohio State should have been National Champions. In my opinion, CJ Stroud’s performance with the Texans proves it and proved CJ Stroud was the better quarterback.
Success in football means championships, he never had won one.
Bryce Young sole alleged elite skill was "processing", a myth that was blown to smithereens last year. He literally has the worst physical traits in the history NFL at the QB position. He also is not elite in terms of arm talent and speed. What could possibly go wrong?
Matt once again you were wrong about the Texans... They won and Stroud looked really good during the game.
Once again it is proven that what team drafts you significantly dictates how your professional career will turn out. Some teams are where QBs go to die. Your head coach makes has a gigantic inpact as well...
I wrote this at the beginning of the video, and Matt saying the Jets are where quarterbacks go to die cracks me up.
There are NFL franchises whose condition is such that a top prospect should not play for them. Indy with Luck, for example. Carolina. Others. It can end your potential career.
The one advantage to having a QB in his rookie contract is supposed to be his salary is low enough to surround him with good weapons. Then as he gets more experience in his next contract he doesn't need quite that level of weapons.
That formula has been true for ages but somehow the Patriots and Panthers both thought they could skip the weapons and both probably ruined any chance for the QBs.
Calling any rookie a bust after a season is crazy.
But it's REALLY hard to envision this situation in Carolina getting better. Call me crazy but hiring a top coach and gm won't matter as long as that Dumb mf'er Tepper is owning the team.
Pipsqueak looks like he is regressing. If they didn't waste 3 first round picks moving up to the #1 pick then they would have been able to select a better QB in this draft class because it's way better. They could have had Stroud or Drake Maye, if they waited until this season.
@@roris5882You realize Stroud was either going 1st or 2nd. Which means in order to get Stroud, they would've had to trade up aswell (same way they got Bryce). Which means Stroud would be going into this clown show Carolina is right now, if they took him.
@@walter9243 Stroud is better because he has elite passing accuracy.
@@roris5882True, but it's hard to get those passes off if you're on the ground in 2 seconds.
Agreed. Stroud wouldn't have saved them.@@walter9243
Curious what your thoughts are on the Mac Jones situation in New England. A lot of people believe the coaching staff ruined him.
Mac hasn't been the same since that leg injury. He's now scared of any pressure coming. definitely a mental thing & not a lack of skill
@@savagemanu9262 Very true
He will be fine. I’m sure the focus during the off season will be a few offensive lineman and 1or 2 receivers.
It all depends where you go, it dont matter how good you are the team matters
It definitely DOES matter how good you are 😂😂😂
There qb’s in their rookie seasons are all in somewhat, if not wholly, bad situations. Bryce, Will, even Trevor in his 1st year or so, are trying to develop their games so that they can help their teams but have next to no weapons or help during games. Offensive lines are terrible.
As a panthers fan this situation makes no sense to me. At the end of the 2022 season our offensive line was top ten in evey category and now the same personel are in the bottom of every category including the 2nd worst pass blocking... there has to be something fundamentally wrong with the scheme that Frank Reich employed... i hope that we can trade people like brian burns and jeremy chin who barley played this season for some good picks to help get good personnel around Bryce #MattBeMadThatMattBeBald
Pipsqueak can't even see over the line of scrimmage. He has to flee out of the pocket just to see down field. His style of play isn't conducive with successful NFL offenses because his O-Line can't protect him while he's running directly into the defensive schemes they dial up to easily defeat his predictable play.
@@roris5882 his offensive line at Bama was taller and weighed more on average than Carolinas and no if you actually watch the games he doesn't run out of the pocket unless nothing is open like every other quarterback in the league, he actually plays pretty well when he has time to throw and is in the top 10 on completion percentage to open recivers
@@kingwhiskey2321 Well now he has freak athletes at every defensive position trying to destroy him every snap and he's realizing he's not good enough because he built up false confidence when he had better players then all his opponents.
@@roris5882 His stats are comparable with other quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen, and Joe burrows rookie years outside of wins and loses? The real difference is Bryce has already been sacked 60 times this season which is 10th in NFL history, there has never been a quarterback where his offense line and weapons were this bad and that quarterback was successful, yes Byrce has made mistakes EVERY rookie makes mistakes but acting like he's a bust already when everyone around him has under performed? Complete None sense
I disagree. Number one picks almost never go to good situations. At first young QB's make a few things happen and progress is built with better development and improving personnel. Carolina went from 7-10 to 2-14. That's not all Bryce Young. But it also means he is not helping the situation. I always thought he was too small for the NFL and he plays much smaller than I expected. Carolina has to give him another year, but I think Broadcaster Bryce is coming sooner than we want.
I agree the team is basically the same except no dj Moore i expected a lil let down but to look that bad and to make such bad reads and poor throws is all on bryce I see journey man back up then cfl in the near future
This was a number 9 pick that moved up to 1
I think Bryce’s biggest advantage is having both his parents in his corner and his father having the ability to keep his mind healthy.
Bryces ceiling was college. He only wins when he has superior talent. CJ Stroud makes the players around him better. The NFL is about arm talent and Bryce doesn't have it. He's smaller than Drew Brees and his arm is worse.
if you were to flip cj and young.....panthers would have at least 5 -6 wins...sorry. CJ's talent is BY FAR a superior NFL talent than Young. Bryce Young is ABSOLUTELY cooked!!!!!
The panthers don't suck bryce young sucks no teams has 3 all pro WRs and 4 to 5 pro bowl linemen if he had a bigger better arm and dropped back to proper depth he wouldn't get sacked so much cj stroud throwing to 5'8 170 lbs rookie, a under achieving nico Collins, and a 4th or 5th option WR the cowboys gave up on so let that sink in
Some players got that dawg in them and some don’t. Bryce was a good player only because he played on good teams. Now you see the real deal. I like Bryce but he is just too small for the nfl. We fumbled the bag on this one. We gave up too much for Bryce
FACTS!!!
This is why Eli manning had his dad change where he went in his first year. But I have beleive in Young. They won't have a great season next year but they will win a lot more games. He will get some help and you notice the differnece.
Maybe Pipsqueak should go to the XFL because he's too puny and weak to have consistent success in the Pros.
How often is a rookie a CJ Stroud? Young is still a rookie. Let’s manage expectations a tad.
Matt, do you remember when you doubted CJ Stroud when he said he was going to take the Texans to the playoffs? Well, he just did it.😊
and sorry but Bryce would not be able to take this same Texans team to the playoffs this season… That flip situations argument is trash
As a panthers fan, I had a very high suspicion this was going to happen this year. The Panthers need a total makeover from the ground up.
Panthers record is bad but they was in a lot of games this season,I truly believe he will get better but they front office is a joke right now
Wasting 3 first round picks to draft a puny undersized munchkin QB was ridiculous. Especially since Stroud, the QB with elite NFL traits, was available and the QB the recently fired new Head Coach wanted. The owner fell for that ridiculous Bama/SEC propaganda when Stroud torched UGA's elite defense, loaded with NFL players, in the Peach Bowl.
@@roris5882 I’ll agree with everything you just said but it’s only year one less at least judge when gets some talented playmakers
Terribly insulting to CJ Stroud. It’s not like he was walking into a great situation either.
You flip flop qbs and I’d bet my salary CJ had the Panthers competing for a division title. He’s that good. Big, tall, great throwing motion. Makes players around him better. Bryce’s skills don’t translate to the NFL and it’s showed.
No one should ever call themselves a draft expert when they’re pushing a 5’8 QB with average arm talent and decent mobility as the number one pick over a player like Stroud.
Bryce is small and taking a ton of hits..... when I first saw him in a helmet practicing for the Panthers, I was like wow.... looks like a teenager lol... Panthers will ruin him
No QB his size has ever been successful in the Pros because he can't even see over the line of scrimmage. That's why he has to scramble out of clean pockets just to see down field. All defenses have to do is keep him in the pocket and tackle him when he runs directly into their arms while they are waiting for him.
Everyone forgets Tua's and Jalen's first years with a little help Bryce can do great things
He won't even be an interesting sports announcer because he's too quiet and polite.
Is he cooked?! Did you not see his offensive line openly trying to get this man murdered every week?
Hey Matt have u thought of ever making a video of Mac jones because he has been struggle very much and was a former bama qb
Bryce is the new David Carr
Depends on the team and coaches around.
Bryce is totally not cooked. Just playing for a AWFUL team. Put him on a decent team and he'll shine like CJ Stroud. The things everyone said about Bryce is that he was to small, not durable enough, etc. He got David Carr pounded and held up way beyond anyone's expectations. Sure he got injured and was in and out of the lineup but he NEVER punked out and shyed away from trying to play despite knowing the punishment and lack of talent around him top to bottom.
bullshit. Stroud is on a bad team too. Houston was worse than Panthers last season. Houston has looked bad in the games Stroud missed. You guys just want to make excuses for him
Cope
@@tomdemay6147bs...you talking about last year! This year's 53man roster who you want...Texans or Panthers? Coaching staff, Texans or Panthers?? Bryce was set up to fail from the jump. Stroud went to competent staff that built everything around his strengths just as they would of if Bryce dropped to them instead. Stroud would of been floundering too if he'd been drafted by the Panthers...no cap!!!!
5'10" is awfully short for a modern pro quarterback in the NFL. Pat Haden was 5'11" and was routinely terrorized by the taller defensive ends and tackles, like Too Tall Jones, that he just couldn't see over.
CJ Stroud is 6'3" - almost half a foot taller. That's a huge difference. Size matters in the NFL. Another huge difference between them is that CJ Stroud had to struggle a lot more to accomplish what he did, and to get to the NFL - CJ went to a public high school, although a good one for sports and academics, it was nothing like Mater Dei, where Bryce Young went to, which is the finishing school for top high school athletes, especially football players, in Southern Cal. I think in the end, Bryce Young is going to be at best a mediocre quarterback in the NFL, like a lot of Heisman Trophy winners who didn't turn out to be stars in the NFL, it was because they were always surrounded by terrific players who helped them to look good, and then once those players were no longer there, you finally see the real player that's there, all by himself, and he's no where near as good as you thought he was.
This reminds me of carr who was drafted number 1 by Houston who had a loss his confidence because of that terrible offensive line
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Bro, no hes not...its his first year he will get better look at some of the other balling rookie qbs...joe burrow, Trevor Lawrence etc they all went a couple 2-3 years before they got it under control...he will be fine...the owner sucks, the GM sucks and hes already had different head coaches no wonder why hes having trouble
The Panthers have demonstrated just how much poor roster management and bad coaching can impact a team. The GM bragged we were a QB away, then traded away the best offensive weapons on the team without replacing them (CMC and DJ Moore). They also, imo fairly, assumed that the Oline that ended the year strong in 22 would be good in 23. The line regressed and suffered from incessant injuries. 9 starting LG and 8 RG isnt a recipe for success.
The coaching staff was constructed with coaches that had never worked together and had sometimes opposing opinions about how to run the offense. Reich developed a playbook that did not work with the players that the team had, instead the scheme was built for the team that the coaches wanted instead of who they had. It will be a 2 year rebuild, at least, to fix the offense. The sad fact is that BY9 had approximately 500 pass attempts with 300 completions. 62 sacks and 54 throwaways make up over half of his incompletions, which is insane to think about.
The below average WR play has made it worse. Dont pretend the guy wasn't a good prospect and a unanimous 1.1 or 1.2 pick depending onthe team. The Panthers built a poor roster with a poor scheme and I doubt any QB would have thrived this season.
Before you casuals say "but what about Dalton in week 3" He had 58 pass attempts and a 6.2 YPA average... Bryce had a 5.6 YPA even though his ADOT was 9 yards.
This is why I personally don’t like the NFL compared to college
Due to the draft and trading system there are so many times where true and genuine raw talent goes to waist.
As an example of how bad the supporting team was around Bryce, look no further than week 18. The Panthers were shut out, again, and he had 0 TDs and sub 100 yards. He had 3 receivers drop the ball, he got robbed of a touchdown by Chark diving for the endzone (from the 4...) and fumbling. The Panthers missed a FG with the back up kicker, and then a WR lined up wrong causing a 26 yard rushing TD to get called back. The Panthers season could be summed up as underperforming and self inflicted wounds. The games Bryce looked best were the games that the supporting cast started to perform, and even in those games it was seldom for more than a quarter or 2 drives. He led the team on multiple game winning drives and he does have that IT factor. If he can get support from coaching and the rest of the offense, he can be a top 10 QB in the league. If he doesn't get support, he likely wont survive to a 3rd season as its already a miracle he didn't get hurt after 60+ sacks and 100+ hits.
This really reminds me of when Jamies winston got drafted to the bucs. So much talent on a awful team.
Winston didn't look no where near as bad as bryce people are already talkin that bryce may end up being a bust
Saying he didn’t need help throughout his career starting in middle school is laughable
Did he block? Catch passes and throw, it’s a team sport he didn’t do this all on his own.
As a former Offensive/defensive lineman who blocked/played with 2-3 MAC (Div. 1) football athletes.
If it wasn’t for the team, they wouldn’t have got those options to play ply division one football
I would not say he's cooked. Look at Steve young, he actually struggled with the Buccaneers and ended up turning it around with the 49ers. Maybe Bryce young will have the same opportunity with somebody
he will be fine. He is just in a bad situation. My concern is that he may suffer a severe injury because that line is god awful
I’m a panthers guy, lived down here most of my life. They could have Tom Brady and it would be the same story. I don’t know what to make of Bryce Young, but this is the worst team I’ve ever followed
Not cooked yet. Just sucks being that size as a qb i mean you have to play the best but if the team isnt good esp an o-line.
I watched a few of his games. Man, he is running for his life
Bryce is a very unique , miniature athlete similar to Doug Flutie . Is he a legitimate high-end NFL QB ? No . I would have never considered drafting him any earlier than the 4th round . How can I make such a statement ? Easy . He's too short , too small and most importantly he cannot see the field . Bryce actually regularly breaks down the timing of plays . The end result is endless inconsistency . While he was at Alabama , I felt we were beatable in nearly every game he started . From time to time ha can be accurate . However , when compared to Tua or even Mac , he's falls well short .
So , he's not consistent , breaks down a high percentage of plays , not highly accurate and plays with no emotion to inspire the players around him . Athletes can win games , but rarely do they ever win championships . Remember this - Improvisation is the enemy of consistency and therefore the best friend of defeat .
How long could he last in the NFL ? My guess is he ends up broken down within 4.5 to 6 years .
At the end of his rookie contract, the end of BY no team will want him.
Many players hate it when they drop in the first round but usually it is a blessing in disguise.
Bryce and CJ have been compared and competing since HS. Similar to TLaw and Fields, where TLaw always came out on top, the same is said for Bryce.
Heisman trophy winners usually have a problem in the NFL lol
Because they always go to the worst teams in the NFL since they always have the first pick
Joe burrow?
93 yards today from bryce meanwhile cj is LEADING his team into the playoffs 😂
Ryan Day develops QB's for the NFL. Justin Fields was a backup to Jake Fromm and now Fromm isn't even in the NFL until an injury of a low stringer caused him to be called up...CJ Stroud did not need to be developed in the NFL much at all and has had the best season of any NFL Rookie in the history of the NFL. I would not compare anyone to him. It's not fair.
He needs a offense line and receiver's to flourish.
That kid got thrown into the fire 🔥.
Personally I don’t think bryce young pops off like stroud on texans either but i think it would be a whole lot better.
I don’t think anyone does well on that Panthers team
"He's a small guy in general compared to me and you"
Me 5'9 and 175 lbs
CJ Stroud's play in the NFL is condemnation of lil' bro Ohio Sucks University's coaching staff.
#MattLovesLilBroOSU
Get him a WR’s and TE and oline y’all would be good . Uses yall assets yall have player yall can move on from and trade in the draft
Tee Higgins
Mike Evan’s
Mike Williams
Michael Pittman Jr
Hollywood brown
Darnell moody
Gabe Davis
Obj
Cavin Ridley
Are some free agent WR this year will have to throw a bag to land own
Don't know what u r all smoking down there I Carolinas how can anyone take this dude serious for five seconds he don't won't or can't throw the air distance over forty yards I can throw over 55 this is a problem because defense gets to negate there responsibility for half the field I don't get what all my this round and round talk is about. Come back when he throws over forty yards in air stop insulting our intelligence anybody that doesn't know that hasn't watched enough football it's sickening sorry
The deal that Carolina made with Chicago is just as bad the RW trade and the DW trade. Considering the talent on the team it might be worse.
If I was Bryce young I would demand a trade the Panthers organization is horrible! #Mattlikescars
He should demand a trade to the XFL so he doesn't end up in the ER every week. But only to a team that has the best offensive players in the league or he will be in the exact same position.
@@roris5882 Elaborate on that👀
What trade value would 5'9 175 lbs qb with a below to barely average arm and not that fast to be that small good luck with that be lucky to get a 6th round pick
@@chevyjr1862 He’s 5’11 190 Heisman winner number 1 overall pick with one of the worst Offensive lines in NFL history.
@@jmoney5350 line not as bad as people think its the same line from the previous year that wasn't labeled the worse line in history also the same line andy dalton was behind where he had enough time to throw for over 350 yards against a solid Seattle defense where bryce young struggles to get 200 yards week in and week out, and dude definitely not 190 lbs tyreek hill 190 and bryce is no where near as thick and jacked up as cheetah bro look a couple lbs bigger than tank dell
This is why dual threat QB such as Lamar Jackson are becoming such a hot commodity. Young literally has no O line what so ever. A dual threat QB can at least thrice in these type of situation’s 6:19 .
very good pointss you make
In regards to "what if" CJ Stroud and Bryce Young switched teams... I think Stroud would be better than Young in Carolina. Good and bad situations will definitely reflect upon performance but CJ Stroud has proven to be more prepared for the NFL than Bryce Young. He deserves a lot of credit.
Thats the bad part about being first round picks . The teams with the crap record gets to pick first
That's how they have parity and why it's an even playing field. Just as long as the refs aren't swaying games like the league wants to maximize revenue.
A bruising short yardage RB would go a long way. Also Brady Christianson was a big loss and undervalued. He is not a game changer but he is a lunch pail reliable guard and I feel he is a better LT than Ikey... which doesn't take much.
Carolina Panthers is trash 🗑 poor Bryce 😢
College football is the way to go for the big money makers. They can pick the team they are on. They play 12 games instead of 18 and many of those games are against horrible teams as opposed to pro. The body beatings are way less in 6 less games against so-so teams.
Sad. He should have stayed at Bama for his last year to focus on bulking up and developing himself more. I wish all players would quit declaring early.
He threw for 95 yards today! He currently can't play QB at the NFL LEVEL! Panthers offense for EIGHT Quarters, ZERO POINTS! ZERO!
Back in the old days the quarterbacks had to worry about how good their offensive line was or wide receivers now it's the owners that you got to watch out for
Burrow doesn't need an O-Line. He's always injured but when he's healthy he's tearing it up and making deep playoff runs.
@@roris5882Dude... A QB without an Oline is 100% doomed. Even a great QB will 100% struggle if the front five can’t consistently open holes for running backs or keep the opposing front seven out of the offensive backfield. The QB will get very jumpy/nervous and be prone to inaccuracy & making bad throws as he’ll always have one eye on the opposing pass rush instead of focussing all his attention on his receivers. From there, you’ll get an offense that can’t move the ball consistently and thus score points, whilst the defense will wear down from spending too much on the field. So, you need to have a line that can at least hold its own in the running game and be able to pass block for long enough to give the QB enough time to set his feet in the pocket and throw when he wants to rather than having to unload early to avoid getting hit. Burrow was sacked like 50+ times one season which is probably why he's injured now...😑
Most teams are built ass backwards. First you need an offensive line, then backs, a great one and a good one, a tight end. then an receiver. When you have all that find a QB that fits your team. In the history of Carolina they have been content to play a field goal game with a great defense. When you don't have a great defense you got to score touchdowns at least 4 a game. I'm local to Charlotte but I could never get into watching them, It has always been more of a soccer match then a football game.
Carolina's motto is "Keep Pounding (keep trying). To me if you get the same result that"s insanity. Change the motto to "Get'er Done", that's my advise for the next coach.
CJ Stroud took a bad offense now he's making them look good Bryce young could do it but he is not a good QB
Being known as a “Champion” addresses his winning career until the NFL. BUT, it also encompasses many other attributes that Bryce has honed in his career that have contributed to his success. He is mentally tough and does not panic in any situation. We have seen that vividly during his career at Alabama. He is even tempered and has a strong family support system that bolsters his confidence. He believes in his abilities and works very hard to improve any flaws in his game. It would be great if his new head coach would be more like Mike McDonald that has made such a difference in Tua’s performance and, of course, improving the cast of players around him. So, Bryce is a champion and he will weather this storm by following “The Process” that he learned from The Goat.
What’s up awesome videos!
Lots of good QB's get stuck on bad teams.
Bryce should just demand a trade outta that pathetic team honestly
The biggest crime is how the Panthers GM is still employed
The Cardinals ruined Jake Plummer putting him in too soon with an O-line that couldn't protect him. Moving to Denver didn't help much.
Arizona wasn't done there, they took a top-rated QB from USC and straight-up ruined him too. I can't think of his name for some reason. He ended up as a backup at the Texans. Matt Leinart was his name if I remember correctly.
With a decent O-line, a decent QB is going to have teething pains. A bad O-line will destroy good QBs.
Same thing happened to Joey Harrington when he was drafted by the Lions. Spent most of his time running for his life. Great talent wasted.
Just a HORRIFIC fit for Bryce! If he was on the right team he would SHINE ✨
He's never going to be on a team like Bama or Mater Dei with the talent disparity he needs to be successful in the Pros. Plus he's too puny and delicate to survive the physicality.
I think if they traded to a team like Denver, New Orleans, New York Jets or Las Vegas he could be saved but we know how that will not happen. I think maybe the new Head Coach needs to rebuild that O-line he needs a running game that can ground up yards and clock a solid tight end and well hell a new offense period.