Part 2 recommendations: Kinobody Rob Lipsett Connor Murphy (in his prime) Dylan Mcknight AthleanX Buff Dudes Jon Skywalker Chris Heria Matt Ogus Eric Bugenhagen Brandon Carter VitruvianPhysique Austin Dunham Joe Weller
@@jboy1638 kino is natty, rob lipset was natty until recently, buff dudes arent natty. Ogus im going to say natty. jon skywalker has admitted to using roids so has connor murphy i think. Brandon carter is on Trt now.
Honestly agree with all these picks, there something to be said about how muscle looks when it’s unatty. Maybe it’s a certain compound or something but to me it’s clear as fat when someone’s muscle looks that grainy and hard that they’re 98% of the time unatty. When natural people cut down they don’t get that look
Great vid. Great chemistry between Nate and Joe. Some suggestions for Part 2: KSI, Jake Paul, Simeon Panda, Rob Lipsett, Ulysses, Oliver Forslin, Conor Benn, Chris Eubank Jnr, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Francis Ngannou, The Rock, Zac Efron, Chris Hemsworth, Jason Statham.
This is the most naive video I have ever watched, Natty whatever. What these guys seem to forget or they just don't know there are many levels of juice that can be taken, juice for bulking, juice for shredding, juice for strength, juice for hardness, juice for whatever your goals are. Plus if the juice is not on the band list of WADA and one of these dudes in the pictures are taking one of these drugs them that does not make them natural. I have 38 years of natural training and I have good genetics but trust me I know natural when I see it. None of them are natty
im 45 been training since i was 23 and i agree with them on virtually all of the ones they said. ive known freaks in my time, i competed in athletics in my younger yrs and played football, knew guys who never worked out who were jacked, ive seen top tier genetics
sollie is not natty like absolutely no chance like there is no doubt he has amazing genetics but in the vid with joe he said he has only trained for 2 years and if he done that in 2 years imagine what he would do with 10 probably be classic physique mr Olympia all natty and a world level power lifter at the same time
@@mazza653 obviously but having shredded 18 inch arms and a 190 bench while been training for sub 2 years and still plenty of gains from puberty to go if you believe that's natty then you are a very naive person
I just said this too…. He’s 100000% not natty it’s embarrassing that him and his boys all say he is 🤣guys talking out his ass he continued to progress to a stupid amount. He can nearly bench 200kg and made that progress in 2 years…. Not a chance in hell is he natty. Guys embarrassing he just says ‘I’m active I eat’ for a coverup n bangs on about good genetics 🤣
I've been working out 25+years... If someone looks like they're not natural, nine times out of ten they aren't. Genetic freaks do exist but they're the exception. Cheers
11:40 many people who take other drugs would not be open to steroids myself included... its one thing snorting/smoking something its another injecting compounds into yourself
Rate and respect the honesty. On mike thurston he convinced me he’s natural because I can’t believe someone can claim it as strongly as he does and be lying especially when he is so honest about other parts of his life. He is similarly very transparent about most aspects of his life in his videos in the same way Nathaniel is so why would he lie about that especially today when no one really cares. I mean look at Larry I think he is unanimously loved by everyone but clearly talks about his steroid use.
Extreme naivety here, the man is absolutely shredded/stacked and lives the lifestyle of partying, drugs, alcohol, women, ibiza, this type of person is the stereotypical steroid user in the UK.
It's very simple. If they were an ectomorph growing up, ie a hard gainer with no fat, then it's extremely unlikely they can put on enough bulk to make you question thier natty status
Couple of mates from uni got together and we had a group which was really mixed and dam some of the black dudes were built like Kings with us and our beer bellys 🤣
@@TheM41adid you not read what i put!? He was getting stronger whilst getting tested! You dont get stronger off cycle! Everyone i know whose done steroids loses it rapid they dont get stronger off cycle! They look completely different on vs off, you dont keep your gains
@@boneTHUGS111 you have obviously no idea what you’re talking about and it shows. IPF use wada not vada and testing is nowhere near as rigourous in powerlifting as it is in weightlifting. He is obviously using SARMS.
@@TheM41a his testing was as rigorous as its ever been done, more so than olympic testing, more so than vada! they tested for sarms they tested levels that are affected by steroid and sarm use, tests that arent usually done, derek from more plates more dates over saw the testing
I know a lots of people in Africa with good genetics, can't even eat properly or even talking protein powders, but huge and shared as f*#k.but they trained harder.
Some info for those who are wondering or lack knowledge = 99.9% of these are not natty even if its here and there or occasional gear use or at the least sarm/ enhancement use and that's the industry where every1 has to get the best out of their potential. Some it wont do much for others with good genetics and strong receptors would show and benifit more.. the little fraction of those not on literally anything or done anything is very scarce and maybe would have strong personal reasons for but believe me dont believe the hype.. nothing wrong with gear if taken safely and react well with it as it's all about reaching potential like saying a footballer doesnt take energy drinks/ supplements to get the most out of his performance/ ability but hey that's how it goes.. just sad for those taking unlimited amount of gear and doesnt really show lol and that's defo more than half of the people on gear also bare in mind😎💥💥💥
Matt got extensively drug tested over a number of months while being monitored by Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates. Definitely currently natty. May have taken something years ago.
Everyone I know that takes steroids also takes recreational drugs. So there’s defo a correlation. If they’re willing to take party drugs they can’t take a moral high ground about steroids lol
Joe said some historical events lead to black guys having better genetics alluding to slavery. If that’s true then what about all of the black people in Africa especially west Africa they have naturally athletic and muscular physiques.
4:50 Bro, definitely not natty 😭🤡 (5:14 is such bullshit too lmao 🤦🏻♂) Especially the strength to go with it. Maybe if he was 5'10" or shorter and wasn't as strong but come on. Dude is 6'2" and below 10% bodyfat easily with his size and strength. I get lighting and angles are a thing, of course, but you still gotta look insane to look insane in good lighting and a pump 🤷🏻♂ Also, I know he played sports growing up and whatnot but he was a skinny kid. He worked for that throughout his high school days. He didn't start off with really good genetics. Above average but that's it. No way he's natty. Maybe 2 years ago but now? Haha nah. Same with Lex Little because he's as lean as Alex Eubank (who I think is natty) or nearly as lean upperbody wise, but his legs are bigger and leaner by A LOT aaand he's also WAY stronger than Alex. He was skinny af before too. No way he's natty. Could he be? Maybe but if I had to put my money on it, I'm saying not natty 100%. Matt as well. You say Mike Thurston isn't natty but if you look up pics of Matt and Mike together, Matt looks pretty much the same. By the way, Matt is taller as well so it evens out. Oh, and isn't Matt like, way stronger 🤔🤨 I just don't agree with a lot of your guys' opinions. Some make no sense. I believe they're saying natty for friends and if they're not friends, well they're saying natty for people who are known to make responses so they don't want that or the beef. Not like it really matters but yes, I do workout. I do PPL, rest, and repeat until I die. Have been consistently for what will be 3 years in November. I have nearly a 315 lb bench at 178 lbs so yes I know what hard work is and what we're capable of and how good genetics and lighting and all that good stuff. The "good genetics" is usually such bullshit. LIke, yes, good genetics, along with gear... Truth is, if they're making a living off their body, they're not natty or they are, as they claim (no surprise, and good on you, respect). Rest are fake natties. Like David Laid for example. Such a shame he's a fake natty. Pretty piece of shit move honestly.
I'd have to disagree on Mike Thurston, there are videos on his progress over the years, and he's pretty much been in amazing shape forever 🤯 and he seems to avoid the drinking when he parties 🤷🏽♂️ anyway keep the awesome content flowing bro!! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
America please. It's not racist to say that black people have, on average, better muscle genetics...it's like saying that black people have more melanin in their skin! Every Ethnic group has its phisical differences and there is nothing wrong in it and saying it.. When people will stop blaming racism on everything and start to blame it on the real problems maybe we will finally solve it.
I used to think Zac was natty but about 2 years ago he suddenly looked a lot older, he face changed, and he was suddenly able to grow facial hair. I’m not sure what he started doing but he also got bigger. He’s now fucking huge.
I reckon a part 2 is needed 👀
I reckon your right
Yes
definetly, would love to see your opinion on jeff nippard
factss
Deffo… be rude not to
Honestly love seeing these 2 together, collabing with other influencers just isn't the same.
Do famous actors like Chris Hemsworth, Michael B Jordan, Dwayne Johnson, Zac Efron, Terry Crews
All famously unnatural
Use ur brain pls
Hollywood=STEROIDS
Bro said dwayne nohnson 💀🗿
The dynamic duo collabing together once again.
Part 2 recommendations:
Kinobody
Rob Lipsett
Connor Murphy (in his prime)
Dylan Mcknight
AthleanX
Buff Dudes
Jon Skywalker
Chris Heria
Matt Ogus
Eric Bugenhagen
Brandon Carter
VitruvianPhysique
Austin Dunham
Joe Weller
Simeon panda
@@jboy1638 kino is natty, rob lipset was natty until recently, buff dudes arent natty. Ogus im going to say natty. jon skywalker has admitted to using roids so has connor murphy i think. Brandon carter is on Trt now.
Honestly a part 2 but with Hollywood actors/youtubers would be pretty interesting imo
Nathaniel trying to doge the drug question 😂🤥
Honestly agree with all these picks, there something to be said about how muscle looks when it’s unatty. Maybe it’s a certain compound or something but to me it’s clear as fat when someone’s muscle looks that grainy and hard that they’re 98% of the time unatty. When natural people cut down they don’t get that look
Great vid. Great chemistry between Nate and Joe. Some suggestions for Part 2: KSI, Jake Paul, Simeon Panda, Rob Lipsett, Ulysses, Oliver Forslin, Conor Benn, Chris Eubank Jnr, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Francis Ngannou, The Rock, Zac Efron, Chris Hemsworth, Jason Statham.
This is the most naive video I have ever watched, Natty whatever. What these guys seem to forget or they just don't know there are many levels of juice that can be taken, juice for bulking, juice for shredding, juice for strength, juice for hardness, juice for whatever your goals are. Plus if the juice is not on the band list of WADA and one of these dudes in the pictures are taking one of these drugs them that does not make them natural. I have 38 years of natural training and I have good genetics but trust me I know natural when I see it. None of them are natty
my thoughts exactly 👍
im 45 been training since i was 23 and i agree with them on virtually all of the ones they said. ive known freaks in my time, i competed in athletics in my younger yrs and played football, knew guys who never worked out who were jacked, ive seen top tier genetics
I live the facial expressions of both of them when Mike thurston comes up
I was excited for this video to come!!!!!
I think that all the guys that I sent were all talked about.
Loving these collabs
Its ironic gymshark people guessing other people their natty status
I was thinking why they didn’t mention Simeon Panda then I see Nat training at his home gym lol didn’t want any problems
Fatcs lmaoooo
Matt was with them as well haha nat playing politics
Curious what greg has to say about this
Nice vid bro always releasing bangers🔥
Thanks bro 👊🏽
Part 2 is a must
sollie is not natty like absolutely no chance like there is no doubt he has amazing genetics but in the vid with joe he said he has only trained for 2 years and if he done that in 2 years imagine what he would do with 10 probably be classic physique mr Olympia all natty and a world level power lifter at the same time
Process declines after 3 years so ur wrong
@@mazza653 obviously but having shredded 18 inch arms and a 190 bench while been training for sub 2 years and still plenty of gains from puberty to go if you believe that's natty then you are a very naive person
I just said this too…. He’s 100000% not natty it’s embarrassing that him and his boys all say he is 🤣guys talking out his ass he continued to progress to a stupid amount. He can nearly bench 200kg and made that progress in 2 years…. Not a chance in hell is he natty. Guys embarrassing he just says ‘I’m active I eat’ for a coverup n bangs on about good genetics 🤣
@@AlphaAbyss_ Lool hes NOT shredded by any means, not even very lean. Why do you think hes never shown a pic of his abs?
@@Tnz69 still leaner than 95 percent of the population and also I was quoting joe
keep killing it though bro, taking over for real
HS is natural. I’ve seen him in person in a t shirt. Doesn’t even look that big. He looks way bigger in photos/ video with his shirt off.
I've been working out 25+years...
If someone looks like they're not natural, nine times out of ten they aren't. Genetic freaks do exist but they're the exception. Cheers
Black genetics and them guys there with beards at 16 have GENETICS 🧬
Bang on, agree with pretty much all of these👍🏼
3:35 I've heard the story... (Jeff Seid story came from Brandon Harding 😉)
man like Nate with the beard! really enjoyed this video with joe 🔥
Appreciate it bro 🙏🏽
It is true that Mike Thurston goes out often but I think he barely drinks alcohol (I think he said that in some videos of his)
New to channel, great content! Coming over to see part 2
Greg doucette reaction video incoming...
And I have a feeling he's gonna start screaming. Which I'm not fuckin' surprised. 🙄
11:40 many people who take other drugs would not be open to steroids myself included... its one thing snorting/smoking something its another injecting compounds into yourself
You love it
True lol but still HS is defo on steroids
@@llose2749 he probably is but my point still stands for most people
@@KyleEU yh I agree
4:55 give it a rest lads, put the crack pipe down😂😂😂😂😂natty uno
Rate and respect the honesty. On mike thurston he convinced me he’s natural because I can’t believe someone can claim it as strongly as he does and be lying especially when he is so honest about other parts of his life. He is similarly very transparent about most aspects of his life in his videos in the same way Nathaniel is so why would he lie about that especially today when no one really cares. I mean look at Larry I think he is unanimously loved by everyone but clearly talks about his steroid use.
Mike has mentioned that he does blood work every 3 months. Guess why? He’s on gear.
Bro he is 100% on gear HGH its s obvious
Hes on the juice ,, peps , sarms the lot, they all are
Extreme naivety here, the man is absolutely shredded/stacked and lives the lifestyle of partying, drugs, alcohol, women, ibiza, this type of person is the stereotypical steroid user in the UK.
@@SUPER8ALTERN8 😂👍
Saying your mate soli is natty, no he fukin isnt ahhaha
Rim licking at its finest 🤣🤣🤣embarrassing saying he’s natty lol he’s the most obvious one 🤣
It's very simple. If they were an ectomorph growing up, ie a hard gainer with no fat, then it's extremely unlikely they can put on enough bulk to make you question thier natty status
I agree with Nathan about HS LOOOL I had to proper think about it ! Good physique! Though big up to him
Joe saying "there is some historical events" had me dead
Yeah malaria.
Do another one. This was good
Keep it real uce 🔥🔥🔥
Do KSI, Fousey, Deji, Behzinga, Bradley Martyn
KSI? Deji? You serious!?!
All natty except Bradley Martyn, maybe fousey may have taken something in the past since he is longtime friends with Bradley
@@user-pd9xj1bt4e Fousey on the juice.
I’d love to see both your opinions on Russwole , i think his name is Russel Orhii
natty
Natty. Elite of elite genetics. top .00001%
Anyone else come here from joes channel to see more but it’s literally just the same video? Stop the cap bruh
david laid 6:37
jeff seid 3:14
nate and joe the best pairing
Part 2 suggestions -
Andrei deiu
Luis young
Alex kukla
Matt ogus
Really wanna see your opinions on these
Simeon Panda
Andre Deiu is stupid lol. He’s never once claimed to be natural.
SIMEON PANDA natural or not would have been cool
3:43 btw Ronnie competed for the first couple in the open Olympia as a natty
Ronnie is 1 in a billion tho
No way Ryan Dengler is natty
sadly u did not cover Austin Dunham :( great video tho!!
Do a vid on cheap meals for muscle gain
The irony of Nathaniel calling out other non natty individuals lmao and how he said Matt is natty - comical
Reverse psychology 😂
matt is natural bro
@@rik2776 😂😂😂.. to be fair could be .. so is anyone on the list
@@melmatrix8212 matt is way smaller in videos than in his photo’s. Just insane genetics + consistent hard work imo. Might be wrong tho
@@melmatrix8212 also don’t see how he would pass all these drug test if he was on stuff
Taking party drugs doesn’t mean u take steroids. He might be on steroids I don’t know but that’s not a good reason in my opinion.
Couple of mates from uni got together and we had a group which was really mixed and dam some of the black dudes were built like Kings with us and our beer bellys 🤣
This video is laughable. If you think Matt does fitness has never touched a roid, you are delusional.
what more do you want him to do? he's tested whilst getting stronger, the tests he's doing are more rigorious than VADA!
@@boneTHUGS111 That proves absolutely nothing. Just that he didn't have them at the time in his system.
@@TheM41adid you not read what i put!? He was getting stronger whilst getting tested! You dont get stronger off cycle! Everyone i know whose done steroids loses it rapid they dont get stronger off cycle! They look completely different on vs off, you dont keep your gains
@@boneTHUGS111 you have obviously no idea what you’re talking about and it shows. IPF use wada not vada and testing is nowhere near as rigourous in powerlifting as it is in weightlifting. He is obviously using SARMS.
@@TheM41a his testing was as rigorous as its ever been done, more so than olympic testing, more so than vada! they tested for sarms they tested levels that are affected by steroid and sarm use, tests that arent usually done, derek from more plates more dates over saw the testing
Jeff Seif bought gear from Hardibg's gym
I know a lots of people in Africa with good genetics, can't even eat properly or even talking protein powders, but huge and shared as f*#k.but they trained harder.
Yeaaaaa Jessie 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩.Just wait Jessie is only 22 now just wait 4 years💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
This was comical 🤣
Some info for those who are wondering or lack knowledge = 99.9% of these are not natty even if its here and there or occasional gear use or at the least sarm/ enhancement use and that's the industry where every1 has to get the best out of their potential. Some it wont do much for others with good genetics and strong receptors would show and benifit more.. the little fraction of those not on literally anything or done anything is very scarce and maybe would have strong personal reasons for but believe me dont believe the hype.. nothing wrong with gear if taken safely and react well with it as it's all about reaching potential like saying a footballer doesnt take energy drinks/ supplements to get the most out of his performance/ ability but hey that's how it goes.. just sad for those taking unlimited amount of gear and doesnt really show lol and that's defo more than half of the people on gear also bare in mind😎💥💥💥
You’re waffling mate
Thoughts on Jeff Cavaliere natty or not??
Don’t agree with the Mike vs Matt reasons I’d say Mike eats way cleaner then Matt from what I can see not sayin he’s natty tho
Way better than just 6 min content haha
We need jdaver, Tristan, Kai and Dwhit
🤣🤣🤣🤣they all on gear💯
It ain't controversial it's true, black genes are really good for gym and exercise in general
Can you do a female version, and include Stefanie Nadine
GIVE YOUR OPINION ON SIMEON PANDA!!!
Should do a actors one
Mike Thurston potentially could have inane work ethic…. Maybe
Daaamn, was I the only one who waited for their opinion on Simeona Panda?
alex is straight up natty
If Andrew Tate and hs fight it should be called the fake natty fight 🤣🤣
They’re all on/have been on steroids.
Now make a video on how steroids make one grow muscles
I thought i was watching black and white video👴🏻
We need part 22222
so good
My favorite gym rat critics 💯🔥💪
Mike is a natty
None of those guys are natural... did you guys bump your heads?...smh
How you saying mikes not a chance natty but matt is, just cause matts your boyfriend mate😂 both on juice
Matt got extensively drug tested over a number of months while being monitored by Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates. Definitely currently natty. May have taken something years ago.
If only Anna was in London
do a part 2, natty or not: SampeV2
Seriously though, none of them are natural.
No way ryan dengler is apart from that you are spot on in my opinion
more of this
james crying rn
Everyone I know that takes steroids also takes recreational drugs. So there’s defo a correlation. If they’re willing to take party drugs they can’t take a moral high ground about steroids lol
What about Adama Traore as he would get randomly drug tested?
Not natty, most pro athletes arent I reckon
Your both better than these thumbnails 🤦♂️
Joe said some historical events lead to black guys having better genetics alluding to slavery. If that’s true then what about all of the black people in Africa especially west Africa they have naturally athletic and muscular physiques.
Lol pip also say im on smthng but am 64,65kg the F
4:50 Bro, definitely not natty 😭🤡 (5:14 is such bullshit too lmao 🤦🏻♂) Especially the strength to go with it. Maybe if he was 5'10" or shorter and wasn't as strong but come on. Dude is 6'2" and below 10% bodyfat easily with his size and strength. I get lighting and angles are a thing, of course, but you still gotta look insane to look insane in good lighting and a pump 🤷🏻♂ Also, I know he played sports growing up and whatnot but he was a skinny kid. He worked for that throughout his high school days. He didn't start off with really good genetics. Above average but that's it. No way he's natty. Maybe 2 years ago but now? Haha nah.
Same with Lex Little because he's as lean as Alex Eubank (who I think is natty) or nearly as lean upperbody wise, but his legs are bigger and leaner by A LOT aaand he's also WAY stronger than Alex. He was skinny af before too. No way he's natty. Could he be? Maybe but if I had to put my money on it, I'm saying not natty 100%. Matt as well. You say Mike Thurston isn't natty but if you look up pics of Matt and Mike together, Matt looks pretty much the same. By the way, Matt is taller as well so it evens out. Oh, and isn't Matt like, way stronger 🤔🤨
I just don't agree with a lot of your guys' opinions. Some make no sense. I believe they're saying natty for friends and if they're not friends, well they're saying natty for people who are known to make responses so they don't want that or the beef. Not like it really matters but yes, I do workout. I do PPL, rest, and repeat until I die. Have been consistently for what will be 3 years in November. I have nearly a 315 lb bench at 178 lbs so yes I know what hard work is and what we're capable of and how good genetics and lighting and all that good stuff. The "good genetics" is usually such bullshit. LIke, yes, good genetics, along with gear...
Truth is, if they're making a living off their body, they're not natty or they are, as they claim (no surprise, and good on you, respect). Rest are fake natties. Like David Laid for example. Such a shame he's a fake natty. Pretty piece of shit move honestly.
I'd have to disagree on Mike Thurston, there are videos on his progress over the years, and he's pretty much been in amazing shape forever 🤯 and he seems to avoid the drinking when he parties 🤷🏽♂️ anyway keep the awesome content flowing bro!! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thought you meant o Hearn then and I nearly had a heart attack
You’re defo a newbie lifter😭😂
@@HoneyBadgarDontGive defo yes 👍🏼
Delusional
Koda Kammer - natty or not?
Natty
Do @JustMerk in part 2
Dylan McKnight as well
Both not natty
Real g
Do Simeon panda on the next episode
America please. It's not racist to say that black people have, on average, better muscle genetics...it's like saying that black people have more melanin in their skin!
Every Ethnic group has its phisical differences and there is nothing wrong in it and saying it..
When people will stop blaming racism on everything and start to blame it on the real problems maybe we will finally solve it.
I used to think Zac was natty but about 2 years ago he suddenly looked a lot older, he face changed, and he was suddenly able to grow facial hair.
I’m not sure what he started doing but he also got bigger. He’s now fucking huge.
Owen and Lewis Harrison