Every time I watch this guy it I learn something. "The hands create the shallowness".... Holy !#$#. Longer hands = less angle of attack and more delivered loft. Shorter hands = greater angle of attack and less delivered loft. "Ball position" is not in relation to the feet, its in relation to the sternum..... just gold. Thank you Gareth for sharing all of your knowledge with us. This is fantastic.
Sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an instagram account?? I stupidly forgot the login password. I would love any tricks you can offer me
Feet close together, Stance slightly open, Ball off the front heel, Sternum Forward, Clubface Open a few degrees, Slight Acceleration into the Ball - is what took almost 7 shots off my handicap last year
After your last video with Gareth I went back to using my wrists. After 3 years of struggling in my short game I'm now back to where I was. That Jason Day style, on paper, seems safer way to play short game, but if it doesn't fit all the wrest of you it makes it worse. Glad I've seen the light, I'll just keep working on perfecting the technique my body likes (lean, set, rotate)
This would be one of the best value vids for all, teaching pro's to beginners, Gareth is so right bad results in chipping can send golfers home with major yips. Me included, ive since past those but this video will assist even more. Thank you TXG & Gareth ' you da man!
Short game one of the few beneficiaries of UK lockdown. Lots of time chipping down the living room to an armchair. The ball position further forward and sternum forward has made a big difference for me in terms of quality of contact and this video has confirmed what i got to by trial and error. Cheers.
I am a shallow chipper and was using the putter stroke and couldn't figure out why my chipping was so bad. The technique to steepen by using the wrists and weight of the club has saved me. I am much more consistent in strike, direction and distance control even on the 40m shots. Thank you!!!
Great video I've always been a ball back hands forward and hit down through the ball for my pitch and chip shots can't wait to get on course and try these tips thanks again
The best lesson i ever had with one of our new teaching assistants @Matfenhall changed my short game for ever, pretty much everything Gareth has shown in this video, now i look forward to shots that i used to cause sooo much pain... no more chunk n runs... another great content guys... Working a treat for you 2 in a row...
What I get out of Gareth is a way of explaining it so I can translate it into feel. Being a feel golfer, it is had to have an explanation translate well for me, right now I feel that I can take what Gareth said to the chipping green and the course easily.
This is going to change a ton of my fundamentals for my short game. I'm headed to play today after 2 days of rain and was concerned about chunking everything I hit inside of 50yrds. This will be a big help.
When the rest of your game is pretty solid, but when you stand over that 15/20 pitch or running chip and you're trembling in fear...gawd it's awful. The simplicity of Gareth's instructions are so nice.
can't wait to try practice this once the lock down is over here in Germany, i've been practicing indoors with my net return but there is nothing like seeing how it applies to the greens.........great value here !!! thanks again Ian & Gareth.......:-)
This was great. Of course you have to know where you are coming from. I just realised that to work away my yips I have become too shallow, cause I would destroy that stick, Steve Stricker style, or putting motion as Gareth calls it. But I have realised that if I open the face I get more forgiveness.
Brilliant again guys and will help me because I was really too steep to now being a tad shallow sometimes. So getting something solid put into place will make it a whole lot easier. 👌🏼👍🏼
I was practising and found the forward position on my own worked great, but it never seemed "correct". I now have some validation from Gareth! I too use a slight flared front foot and a smidge open stance. Flop shots become so easy too!
TXG - Loving the short game series!! This one is gonna help big time. Question - could you do a video on grips? Help deciding what type of grip may be more beneficial to you and how a specific grip will affect your game? I feel like it one part of the fitting that sooooo many people forget about or are lost on.
Love the content as usual! I love the thinking.....but as a YIPPER for about 3 years when it WAS my strength....turf interaction was EVERYTHING. Chipping lessons on mats just don't address the issue for chunks and thins for us. The "thinking" behind the lesson in this video is CLEAR but guys likes me (3HC)....I see soft turf, thick against the grain turf, etc....and I'm toast! Luckily I took a few hours from the great Chris O'Connell at Plane Truth and I'm on the right track now. Turf interaction...would love to see part 2 of this video out on the short game practice area in different lie conditions.
Would love to hear gareths philosophy on how to hit distance wedges. I remember his videos a year or so ago talking about hitting into wind but I’m wanting to hear his take on hitting that sand wedge 125 and pushing it maybe 10 yards further than the stock wedge
I think just about all instructors would tell you that trying to hit wedges an extra 10 yards is almost always a bad idea. IMO you should have at least 2 but preferably 3 distances with all of your wedges: full (comfortable not hard), 3/4 and half. You can use the clock system or feel but you need to have distance reference points. For example your SW would be something like 125, 100, 80. Then your gap wedge would be 135, 115, 90. And your lob wedge would be 100, 75, 55. The feel and technique of a "3/4" swing should be the same for all 3 wedges. If you practice this you'll get out on the course and feel empowered that you often have 2-3 different shots in your arsenal and can let conditions dictate which one to use(90 yards: can take a little off your 3/4 SW, can go a little less than full for LW and bring it in high and spinny, can use your gap wedge and a stock half shot to bring in a low one that skips and releases more, etc.).
We have the people who encourage shaft lean and not playing the ball in the middle of the stance, and those who preach the opposite. All are highly accomplished playing and/or teaching pros. I really don't know who to believe anymore.
What matters most is what works for you. Gareth works with the best LPGA players in the world and makes an incredible difference with their short games. Give it a try.
Will try these techniques. I can hit a a golf ball with an iron flush and square but I pretty much creating irrigation ditches on golf courses with my angled wedge. Will ditch moving my hands forward and moving the ball back to see if I stop ruining such a new golf course by where I live.
This is some good basic set up information. Only thing I would add is that more often than not you aren’t chipping or pitching from perfectly flat lies. My main focus on those shots is identifying and managing the low point of the swing and making sure the ball is in the correct spot.
I discovered yesterday that those similar shots for me I performed better just one handed. Got over the mental thought of not hitting it right & saw only the odd one or two hits drop short or go slightly long. Going to try that now during my next round. ( 56* wedge )
When Lockdown is over in the UK can I please have Gareth follow me around on the Course for those delicate little chips from just off the Green, that absolutely terrify me, please? Just listening to his calm brogue would lower my heart rate and my handicap and the occasional Chip-in would be nice too👍
Very informative. I just wonder why you see the best players in the world use a completely different set up for a similar shot w/the ball so far back in their stance. After watching some old Lee Trevino videos, he seems to advocate for a different approach, especially for a chip & run. I really love the video in relation to crdeating more loft w/the set up demonstrated. Will give it a long trial. Thx
It’s old school instruction and works if you’re extremely talented. The steepness also depends greatly on your lie. If you’re in heavy rough you need a steeper approach angle.
Enjoyed the video, wow the CEO burning up the Happy Meal Coupons with two in a row, thanks Gareth and TXG for sharing! 👍🏴☠️ Are you as well trying to maintain a 50/50 with feet between toes and heel?
I’m sooooooo using these methods. My chipping has been pants for 5yrs and totally lost my confidence. Now then, is Gareth going to do a shot selects piece with you around the greens with the various techniques he’s shown?
Narrow and wide arc strokes are what I use for my swing thoughts playing chips/pitches depending on lie and if it's a shot I need to run out or a shot I need to stop quickly.
I think there are many ways of playing short game. If you watch Mickelson's short game videos, he even talked about being able to lift the back foot. That mean almost 100% weight on the front foot.
This video has some great info about set up, steep vs shallow, etc., but also some odd terminology. Early in the video Gareth tells his student to "go ahead and chip it," which results in a swing with hands chest high and the club raised straight up. This doesn't fit anyone's definition of chipping. Towards the end, to elicit a shallower pass at the ball, he suggests a putting stroke. This results in a later wrist cock but the student still hoists the club straight up in the air. Telling a hacker to pitch with a putting stroke is more likely to result in a stiff-armed heave at the ball and a new set of problems. Finally, anyone taking three strokes to get on the green from 10 yards, as referenced early on, likely has more issues than just a poor set up.
I’m curious to know how much Gareth’s ideas apply to iron play in general. Learning to strike a golf ball with an iron is a complicated process. Time to get out on the range.
Me 2021, funny thing is I used to think of my short game as a strength and hoped for longer iron play (always been a decent driver). Now I am flushing my irons and I am chipping with a 50* wedge because I just cant him my other wedges. It is so sad when you are capable of cutting a ball over tree's into wedge range, you watch your playing partners spend 2 strokes catching up to you and then you duff a freaking wedge and end up with the same score. I can take a missed putt, but blowing a 30 yard pitch really pisses me off lol. Actually I take it back, I think I am more of a digger, so I must be too steep, I am definitely a digger, so am I guy two? The putting stroke is the old wooden man is it not? Great stuff
I've been a steep chipper/pitcher for 2 decades. I would practice a lot so I was decent. In 2020 I incorporated that feeling that I'm standing a bit closer and using that long putting stroke feeling. My chipping/pitching improved, less chunks. This reminds me of James Sieckmann's methods, he also teaches people to incorporate more shallow components or more steep components to find the right balance for YOUR swing. If you aren't careful you can be steep, watch videos, then practice things that make you even steeper (or vice versa)!
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Every time I watch this guy it I learn something. "The hands create the shallowness".... Holy !#$#. Longer hands = less angle of attack and more delivered loft. Shorter hands = greater angle of attack and less delivered loft. "Ball position" is not in relation to the feet, its in relation to the sternum..... just gold. Thank you Gareth for sharing all of your knowledge with us. This is fantastic.
Hear hear 😊👍
I need to tattoo this on my forearm. lol
What do you mean by longer hands? Shorter hands?
@@jeandupont8501 longer hands moving away from the body on the back swing (swaying off the ball) shorter hands more close to the body and wrist set
Sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the login password. I would love any tricks you can offer me
Love when Gareth is on the channel- this stuff is absolute gold. Can't believe it doesn't already have 50,000 views!
Love this guy Gareth no matter what your level of handicap is this is gold!
Feet close together, Stance slightly open, Ball off the front heel, Sternum Forward, Clubface Open a few degrees, Slight Acceleration into the Ball - is what took almost 7 shots off my handicap last year
Gareth is such a wizard. You guys need to have him on 4-5 times a year.
I watched last years content at least a half a dozen times, and will do the same here. So good.
Could listen to his northern lilt all day. More of Gareth, please!
Thanks for the lesson Ian and Gareth.
Golden snippets Gareth and Ian; this is something that we can all incorporate into our individual set-ups and swings.
Excellent description and execution...very relatable and informative
Gareth and TXG are responsible for taking my 4 handicap two years ago down to 2!! #addicted
It’s so frustrating wasting shots with chunked or thin chips, this instruction is spot on! 👍
The videos with Gareth are so good. will be watching these over and over in the next dew weeks!
After your last video with Gareth I went back to using my wrists. After 3 years of struggling in my short game I'm now back to where I was. That Jason Day style, on paper, seems safer way to play short game, but if it doesn't fit all the wrest of you it makes it worse. Glad I've seen the light, I'll just keep working on perfecting the technique my body likes (lean, set, rotate)
This would be one of the best value vids for all, teaching pro's to beginners, Gareth is so right bad results in chipping can send golfers home with major yips. Me included, ive since past those but this video will assist even more. Thank you TXG & Gareth ' you da man!
Probably one of the best segments I’ve watched. That was great info
Short game one of the few beneficiaries of UK lockdown. Lots of time chipping down the living room to an armchair. The ball position further forward and sternum forward has made a big difference for me in terms of quality of contact and this video has confirmed what i got to by trial and error. Cheers.
I am a shallow chipper and was using the putter stroke and couldn't figure out why my chipping was so bad. The technique to steepen by using the wrists and weight of the club has saved me. I am much more consistent in strike, direction and distance control even on the 40m shots. Thank you!!!
Wow, never heard it explain that way and this is the area I struggle the most. Thanks for putting out this video!
Can’t wait for outdoors wedge grind and bounce fitting videos next summer
Another TXG lesson video I'll be taking with me to the range !!
Garteth dropping nuggets of gold in this one!
Watching any kind of your instructional videos just makes me want to go clear my day and head straight to the golf course xD
Amazing content!
This is why the internet was created. Good stuff guys
Great video I've always been a ball back hands forward and hit down through the ball for my pitch and chip shots can't wait to get on course and try these tips thanks again
Great video. Answered so many of my questions and doubts. Thanks guys.
The best lesson i ever had with one of our new teaching assistants @Matfenhall changed my short game for ever, pretty much everything Gareth has shown in this video, now i look forward to shots that i used to cause sooo much pain... no more chunk n runs... another great content guys... Working a treat for you 2 in a row...
What I get out of Gareth is a way of explaining it so I can translate it into feel. Being a feel golfer, it is had to have an explanation translate well for me, right now I feel that I can take what Gareth said to the chipping green and the course easily.
Thank you! I went to a range and tried it. Really helped.
awesome awesome video!! keep the great content coming guys! much thanks
Awesome instruction. Great help.
Thanks for sharing this one!
This is going to change a ton of my fundamentals for my short game. I'm headed to play today after 2 days of rain and was concerned about chunking everything I hit inside of 50yrds. This will be a big help.
Really liking these lessons!
Wish I’d watched this sooner - excellent 👏👏👏👏
Absolutely brilliant. I want Garth to be my short game coach.
man when he said some people go to him in tears about their short game i can totally relate. it is so deflating.
When the rest of your game is pretty solid, but when you stand over that 15/20 pitch or running chip and you're trembling in fear...gawd it's awful. The simplicity of Gareth's instructions are so nice.
I hear ya. There's nothing worse than 2 beautiful shots and then destroying the hole with bad chips. You can feel your blood pressure rise.
Someone send Gareth to our boy Frankie from barstool. He may be the only one that can fix the butter knife expert himself.
doubt it XD
Love love love these videos!!!!!!!!
I love the Frankinwedge! Thanks again for all the great content! Just started my membership!
can't wait to try practice this once the lock down is over here in Germany, i've been practicing indoors with my net return but there is nothing like seeing how it applies to the greens.........great value here !!! thanks again Ian & Gareth.......:-)
This is bang on again, loving this series
Sooo good. Somethings I can apply for sure, but definitely something some of my buddies have to watch...
Excellent! Just tried it. Brilliant
WOW...AWESOME VID...MORE LIKE THIS PLEASE
Loving this series!!
This was great. Of course you have to know where you are coming from. I just realised that to work away my yips I have become too shallow, cause I would destroy that stick, Steve Stricker style, or putting motion as Gareth calls it. But I have realised that if I open the face I get more forgiveness.
Great content, Gareth know his stuff! Back to back chip-ins! 👍
2 handicap but over the last year I'm positive Strokes Gained in short game to a tour pro. Gareth's take is quality, thanks boys! 👌
Brilliant again guys and will help me because I was really too steep to now being a tad shallow sometimes. So getting something solid put into place will make it a whole lot easier. 👌🏼👍🏼
I was practising and found the forward position on my own worked great, but it never seemed "correct". I now have some validation from Gareth! I too use a slight flared front foot and a smidge open stance. Flop shots become so easy too!
I wish I'd seen this before my game today! Great video, Thanks.
TXG - Loving the short game series!! This one is gonna help big time. Question - could you do a video on grips? Help deciding what type of grip may be more beneficial to you and how a specific grip will affect your game? I feel like it one part of the fitting that sooooo many people forget about or are lost on.
Love the content as usual! I love the thinking.....but as a YIPPER for about 3 years when it WAS my strength....turf interaction was EVERYTHING. Chipping lessons on mats just don't address the issue for chunks and thins for us. The "thinking" behind the lesson in this video is CLEAR but guys likes me (3HC)....I see soft turf, thick against the grain turf, etc....and I'm toast! Luckily I took a few hours from the great Chris O'Connell at Plane Truth and I'm on the right track now. Turf interaction...would love to see part 2 of this video out on the short game practice area in different lie conditions.
Outstanding. I have received so much bad short game teaching.👏
OK Guys, pack up your studio and move to Kelowna. I would visit you weekly. I love your channel!!
Great video
Would love to hear gareths philosophy on how to hit distance wedges. I remember his videos a year or so ago talking about hitting into wind but I’m wanting to hear his take on hitting that sand wedge 125 and pushing it maybe 10 yards further than the stock wedge
I think just about all instructors would tell you that trying to hit wedges an extra 10 yards is almost always a bad idea. IMO you should have at least 2 but preferably 3 distances with all of your wedges: full (comfortable not hard), 3/4 and half. You can use the clock system or feel but you need to have distance reference points. For example your SW would be something like 125, 100, 80. Then your gap wedge would be 135, 115, 90. And your lob wedge would be 100, 75, 55. The feel and technique of a "3/4" swing should be the same for all 3 wedges. If you practice this you'll get out on the course and feel empowered that you often have 2-3 different shots in your arsenal and can let conditions dictate which one to use(90 yards: can take a little off your 3/4 SW, can go a little less than full for LW and bring it in high and spinny, can use your gap wedge and a stock half shot to bring in a low one that skips and releases more, etc.).
Great info, enjoyed that
Great lesson. I'll be taking it to the course.
We have the people who encourage shaft lean and not playing the ball in the middle of the stance, and those who preach the opposite. All are highly accomplished playing and/or teaching pros. I really don't know who to believe anymore.
What matters most is what works for you. Gareth works with the best LPGA players in the world and makes an incredible difference with their short games. Give it a try.
This makes so much more sense
Love this series of videos, great tips to work on this season.
Great video, information simple and easily followed.
Will try these techniques. I can hit a a golf ball with an iron flush and square but I pretty much creating irrigation ditches on golf courses with my angled wedge. Will ditch moving my hands forward and moving the ball back to see if I stop ruining such a new golf course by where I live.
This is some good basic set up information. Only thing I would add is that more often than not you aren’t chipping or pitching from perfectly flat lies. My main focus on those shots is identifying and managing the low point of the swing and making sure the ball is in the correct spot.
Great episode! Recently I’ve been giving away 5-8 strokes per round from poor chipping
I was waiting for more Gareth
I discovered yesterday that those similar shots for me I performed better just one handed. Got over the mental thought of not hitting it right & saw only the odd one or two hits drop short or go slightly long. Going to try that now during my next round. ( 56* wedge )
This is excellent 👌! Will be working this into my game.
Yes I use the putting stroke 👍🏾⛳️
Thank you! I wish you guys were in Houston
Love this!
This couldn’t be a better video for me!! I neeeeed a lesson from GR
Exaclty what I needed great video
Come play in Corpus Christi Texas where the Ground is hard and Chipping is difficult, a lot of people just pitch the ball instead
Less bounce on your wedges maybe?
Was hoping for this one 🙌🏻💯
Would never have known about Gareth's brilliance if it were not for TXG.
When Lockdown is over in the UK can I please have Gareth follow me around on the Course for those delicate little chips from just off the Green, that absolutely terrify me, please? Just listening to his calm brogue would lower my heart rate and my handicap and the occasional Chip-in would be nice too👍
Gareth after u chip: "Gree-yut. Ya hit dine on'at one nicely"
Very informative. I just wonder why you see the best players in the world use a completely different set up for a similar shot w/the ball so far back in their stance. After watching some old Lee Trevino videos, he seems to advocate for a different approach, especially for a chip & run. I really love the video in relation to crdeating more loft w/the set up demonstrated. Will give it a long trial. Thx
It’s old school instruction and works if you’re extremely talented. The steepness also depends greatly on your lie. If you’re in heavy rough you need a steeper approach angle.
This too is where I lose a lot of strokes. I greatly appreciate the tips and I will apply them next round.
Enjoyed the video, wow the CEO burning up the Happy Meal Coupons with two in a row, thanks Gareth and TXG for sharing! 👍🏴☠️ Are you as well trying to maintain a 50/50
with feet between toes and heel?
I wish there was a place where you could get a spreadsheet or something of measurements for ideal clubface positions at impact.
I’m sooooooo using these methods. My chipping has been pants for 5yrs and totally lost my confidence. Now then, is Gareth going to do a shot selects piece with you around the greens with the various techniques he’s shown?
I tried this sternum forward thing today and it was awesome, my chips were popping up like never before. If you have any bunker tips I'm all ears!!
As Gary Player would say "Light the match".
Narrow and wide arc strokes are what I use for my swing thoughts playing chips/pitches depending on lie and if it's a shot I need to run out or a shot I need to stop quickly.
The opening statement from Gareth is sooooo me! I hit bombs but my short game is so horrible.
Love it, great stuff here🙌🏼
Some great info in here thanks guys, also nice chip ins Ian 🤙🏻 must be nice haha
Hard to argue when instruction when he's knocking two in row in
I think there are many ways of playing short game. If you watch Mickelson's short game videos, he even talked about being able to lift the back foot. That mean almost 100% weight on the front foot.
I have seen the mountains.....and they are good
This video has some great info about set up, steep vs shallow, etc., but also some odd terminology. Early in the video Gareth tells his student to "go ahead and chip it," which results in a swing with hands chest high and the club raised straight up. This doesn't fit anyone's definition of chipping. Towards the end, to elicit a shallower pass at the ball, he suggests a putting stroke. This results in a later wrist cock but the student still hoists the club straight up in the air. Telling a hacker to pitch with a putting stroke is more likely to result in a stiff-armed heave at the ball and a new set of problems. Finally, anyone taking three strokes to get on the green from 10 yards, as referenced early on, likely has more issues than just a poor set up.
pure class
Thank you for this! Made 2 chip in birdies because of this!
I’m curious to know how much Gareth’s ideas apply to iron play in general. Learning to strike a golf ball with an iron is a complicated process. Time to get out on the range.
This is great 👌
Me 2021, funny thing is I used to think of my short game as a strength and hoped for longer iron play (always been a decent driver). Now I am flushing my irons and I am chipping with a 50* wedge because I just cant him my other wedges. It is so sad when you are capable of cutting a ball over tree's into wedge range, you watch your playing partners spend 2 strokes catching up to you and then you duff a freaking wedge and end up with the same score. I can take a missed putt, but blowing a 30 yard pitch really pisses me off lol.
Actually I take it back, I think I am more of a digger, so I must be too steep, I am definitely a digger, so am I guy two? The putting stroke is the old wooden man is it not? Great stuff
I've been a steep chipper/pitcher for 2 decades. I would practice a lot so I was decent. In 2020 I incorporated that feeling that I'm standing a bit closer and using that long putting stroke feeling. My chipping/pitching improved, less chunks. This reminds me of James Sieckmann's methods, he also teaches people to incorporate more shallow components or more steep components to find the right balance for YOUR swing. If you aren't careful you can be steep, watch videos, then practice things that make you even steeper (or vice versa)!
I need this!
The sternum 💡 !