Paratilapia polleni 'Maralambo' : 'A Pair In The Making'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2017
- These Paratilapia polleni 'Maralambo' have shown little interest in one another during the two years that I've been raising them. They have been together all that time, starting out as 1" youngsters. Presently, there are 2 males and 4 females in a 180G with Paretroplus menarambo (8) maculatus (5) and nourissati (4) keeping them company. And, oh yes a single Paretroplus kieneri. This male has been a bit of a loner, not really showing much interest in the mating game, until now. Females tend to be the aggressor in this species. I've seen it played out time and again, with polleni 'East Coast', where the female will entice and coax the male into reacting to her. (sound familiar?). Here is a video showing this behavior. It's hard to say whether they will pair successfully, but at least it's a start.
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My Goodness these two are Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want a pair of these fish so bad!! The store even sold me the wrong fish. Claiming it was this one.
They are all so beautiful Jim 🤗🤗
Beautiful fish ! SUBBED 😎💪
Gorgeous paratilapia!!!
Those fish are awesome!!!
Awesome!
Great fish.
Yet another species I'd love to keep one day. Sigh... I wish I had more tanks lol
Any pointers for breeding these?
Beautiful 😍
New subb!!
I had one of these and it past away
Hi. What are the other cichlids in the tank? Cheers
That's answered in the description. Thanks.
Jim thumbs up sir I take my hasty off to you I'm studying your tanks that's about ask I can do watching ur video'syour the best art breeding 🐟
Jim can you keep them in a group in say a 500 litre tank ?
Liam, they do well in groups when young but I find that once they become fully mature, they get less tolerant of one another. So you kind of have to keep an eye on them to see if one of them, say, is getting picked on. Then remove it. But I would say 4 to 6 would do fine in 500L, but for how long, that's the question.
Jim Cumming appreciate the reply Jim , some more vids of your current projects would be good mate 👍
Are these the same as beekeri?
Bleekeri is not a valid species. It is a junior synonym for one particular population of polleni. The largest spot Paratilapia is Paratilapia polleni 'Andapa'
Are they as aggressive as people say Jim ?
Not really they just guard there spot very good just like most cichlids i have m with some Texas cichlids
raynor van berkel there very nice 👍
Good evening Jim. We are having some issues with our polleni couple. domestic fights as it may. the male is chasing the female relentlessly. We separated them but wish to keep them together. this all happened after the first batch of eggs dissapeared. is there any way to succes. and if separation is needed once in a while for how long should this be? We tried to put them together after a seperation of three weeks with no luck.
hope u can help us a bit.
best of luck and wishes to a healthy 2020
greetings Sven
Sven, many years ago, I had a similar situation. I had a pair (just the pair in a 90G (360L) that spawned and seemed to be 'bonded'. I find that the pair bonds for Paratilapia are not all that strong, to the extent that, if the female isn't ready to spawn, the male, rather than waiting it out, will turn on the female. My male did, preventing her from feeding and keeping her holed up in an inverted flower pot. In more recent years, I have found that if they are kept in a group or 4 to 6 or so, and allowed to grow up together, they will not be anywhere near as aggressive. In fact, the presence of other conspecifics or even heterospecifics like Ptychochromis granidieri will keep the Paratilapia pair bond intact, in that they will 'pull together' against other fish in the tank. So, I don't know if it's too late to go the route of adding at least 2 or 3 other adults. If you can come by them, it would be worth a try. Otherwise your female will be most likely killed. If the tank is large enough (180G (720L) say, you could keep four or so Paratilapia and as many of another species. Crowding tends to curb aggression. Also make sure there is quite alot of structure to provide 'safe havens' for any pursued fish. Females are not very aggressive and won't defend themselves. Good luck.
@@JimCummingCichlids thanks Jim, thats a lot of helpful info. We have a 125g for the couple. loads of driftwood and rocks. A group of polleni would be too much.
Sven, even adding one or two of a different species that can take care of itself (doesn't have to be Madagascan) can change the dynamics between the pair. It might be worth a try to put in a CA cichlid, say, a Vieja, and see if it makes a positive difference.
@@JimCummingCichlids thats a good suggestion. before we were thinking about a Green Terror. Or might this be too much muscle too handle?
Thanks for all this so far. So far we were hitting a dead end everywhere we asked. Much appreciation.
Sven, I recommend Andinoacara rivulatus / Green Terror male. He was my best matchmaker cichlid ... ever. Lots of bluff and bluster, but never caused damage. Just kept pair bonds of my Hoplarchus psittacus intact
Can we keep in 40 litre gallon tank (150litre ) if yes How Many pair????????? Love from India ❤️
Neelesh, they do get pretty large. 40G (160L) would be okay for a growout for maybe 4 young ones. But once they start sexually maturing and reach about 4" (10 cm), they need much more room, at least 100G (400L)
@@JimCummingCichlids ok Thnq for ur suggestions 🙏
Hey Jim, its about a year ago since we talked. I've listened to you podcast with "the aquarium guys". I quite enjoyed that one. Our troubles seemed to be the past. We went with extra aquariums. The green terror add wasnt very successful. We first got a female delivered while asking for a male. And when adding a male, babies. Plus I had a succesfull spawn of paratilapia and sold 99% of them. Plus sold all of the gt fry plus female. One of the para fry wasnt growing and i couldnt get my self to sell it or kill it. A year and a half later its grown a bit in its own tank. The parents we devide in different tanks when shit hits the fan. In the podcast u talk about a group of paratilapia being successfull + the best thing is growing them up together. My question, we are building a new tank to replace the livingroom tank. 10 times the size and lots of work but im excited. We would like to be stubborn and focus on the paratilapia. The parents are doing well (together or apart). Is there a way to add more to meet the multiple paratilapia security. Fight the aggression. With our couple being grownup.
Hi Sven. It seems that when growing out young ones, the polleni do best in groups, but eventually, once they get older, then I find that the odd one can get picked on and if not removed, will gradually deteriorate in health and possibly be killed. There is still strength in numbers at this point, but another tactic is to add a couple of other species, from the Ptychochromis genus, such as grandidieri, mainty, or oligacanthus. I wouldn't keep Paretroplus with Paratilapia in that in the long term, the Paretroplus can't compete for food and territory and will suffer. How big are you planning the new aquarium to be? A large one with appropriate structure will go a long ways to keeping a colony of polleni stable.
@@JimCummingCichlids We talk in liters and metric here in Holland. 3m x 0,9m x 0,7m.
Thats about 1900 liters.
We tried other couples.
A couple of Green terrors.
A couple of Oscars.
The male para is would put all of them in the corner of the aquarium.
@@vissersven, that would seem plenty big enough. Certainly larger than any tanks I have. 1900L = 475G.
@@JimCummingCichlids Yeah, its rather going a bit slow. Lots of other chores around the house. Im building it myself from stainlesssteel/inox 316. Got the back and stand done only need to do the boxframe and front glass. But yeah fun but slow.
Why my pollini doesn't have white spots?
Polleni can show slight differences in spot color depending on population, lighting, food, mood.
@@JimCummingCichlids thank you.
Jim, good afternoon. We now have succes with hatched eggs. We had eggs and day three i noticed the female started eating the eggs again. i quickly sucked the few that were left out and dropped them in a tumbler. a day later they hatched, tiny polleni's. Now im wondering. Put them back with their mom or seperate then into a empty tank. i have a spongefilter on standby. i would like to see the parenting behavior but fear that she would just eat them. plus there are a few unfertilized eggs in the tumbler (fungus eggs). tricky to get them out.
Sven, if you reintroduce the fry, they will get eaten, I'm sure. No, raise them in the other tank. Once free swimming, even though they are tiny, they will be able to take live newly hatched brine shrimp. Congratulations and good luck.
@@JimCummingCichlids will they only take live brine or also dried?
@@JimCummingCichlids the fry are insanely small. At what time do u recommend to remove them from the tumbler. They say when the yoke sack is removed. but the thing is i see no yoke sack. there so small. but all moving though. squirly little things. if i turn the air off too see if the fry are free swimming they dont swimm. its more a lump of fish with thousands of tails wiggling around.
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