Hi, Richard, are you one of the Sub Lawns? I did the effects in the video. Also did the video, editing and effects for Janitor. I have pretty high quality slides from the original video. I am glad to see this up here, as I never had a final copy. Denise Gallant
Went to see them twice. Once at the Whiskey on Christmas eve and they didn't show. Once opening for Oingo Boingo that new years eve and they did. That show was amazing in every way.
Makes me swoon. There's some LA TV news documentary about the scene c. 1980 where they're featured, and she doesn't say anything while Vex is talking, but gives one of those smiles for a moment.
Mind blown! Never heard of this band before today. How did I never hear of this before now? I think they were just too far ahead of their time. I think they would have been huge in the 90's.
Su Tissue is the pseudonym of Sue McLane, who was at college in California in 1978, when she joined fellow art student William Ranson in the post-punk band Suburban Lawns. Su does not want to be contacted or involved in talking about the past. The Suburban Lawns song ‘Gidget Goes To Hell’ takes the idea and fascinatingly twists it away from the daddy-idealization to real girl dark teen fantasy - It’s about bunking off school, stealing Dad’s car, driving to the beach and surfing so well that everyone is in awe of her. But none of the boys stand a chance with her because she’s a bad-ass surfer. The film by Jonathan Demme shows the ending where Gidget is presumed eaten by a shark, with Gidget’s giblets washed up on shore cartoon-style. Sue McLane acts, sings and probably had a significant creative hand in this production. According to band-mate Frankie Ennui, Su was reluctant to have live shows recorded, but this was where she was at her most exciting. “You had to see Su do her thing live and in person, in front of a crowd, to really get the full, mind-blowing impact. So many contrasting ideas and emotions were being transmitted. What Su did was real. She really put herself out there, exposed and vulnerable, but aggressively sarcastic and in your face at the same time. Brave. Amazing. Disturbing.” They played LA venues like Masque and Whiskey a gogo. Having obvious musical skills (She went on to study piano and later released a solo piano album, ‘Salon de Musique’), Su sang, played keyboards and bass in the band. This level of musical flair, remember, was unusual for the time. Many of the women who had been drawn to punk were sparky beginners, and the music press were used to judging women in bands on their attractiveness, sexiness and beauty of their voices. “You see, the Suburban Lawns have this Sue Tissue character that soon joins them on keyboards, a very subdued looking girl with long black hair and a predilection for vinyl raincoats and boots. On keyboards she’s almost invisible but then she borrows one of the guy’s bass and steps up front and that’s when you start realizing that this chickie isn’t no wallpaper and that maybe there’s more to the band than first meets the eye. Not only does she play that borrowed bass with more nerve and mean rhythm than a funk pro but she spits out her backing vocals in a most unsubdued, unbacking manner. Something like tense abandon, except more so. But it’s only a bit later, when she finally decides to do her singing full time, giving back the bass and grabbing the mike stand as a drowning cat claws at a stick you offer it that your lame little heart KNOWS that this here is one of the fuckin’ toughest, most unique, most outstanding performing creatures you’re ever likely to see and hear, here or anywhere. If this sounds like jive to, buster, check it out and then tell me to my face that girl ain’t amazing. She may not be on your list of “in people” yet but you see her once and if you’re halfway alive she’ll make number 1 and you’ll just be another shivering fan before you can spell out Lene Lovich That’s a promise. When Sue Tissue sings, nothing else matters. I don’t even know if she’s got a great voice (their really good single doesn’t quite convey what’s it’s about) or if she’s sexy or anything, all I know is that you can’t keep your fuckin’ eyes off her, so strange is her presence, so surprizing is her way AROUND the songs.” -- 1979 live review in Slash magazine. The second self-released single Janitor features a not-that interesting mix-up between the word genitals and janitor - again attributed to Su Tissue, who coined the ‘Oh my genitals, I’m a janitor’ line that apparently made the song - again with an accompanying film. By 1981, Suburban Lawns had signed to IRS records and recorded an album ‘Suburban Lawns’. The support slots became more high-profile, including supports with Siouxsie and the Banshees, 999 and Bow Wow Wow, opening for U2 at Santa Monica and The Clash at Sacramento Auditorium. In some interviews with other band members, there are hints of disputes within the band where the principles of business and art are pitted against one another. To step up from being a reliable and entertaining support band to being a 1980s IRS hit-making success story always seemed to involve compromises and placing particular demands on women in bands. And not all women were happy to comply with the ‘whatever it takes’ view of musical success. This is where all we can do is speculate. From the outset, Sue McLane comes across as having artistic vision, musical talent and not wanting to compromise her privacy and principles for fame or money. According to band mate Chuck Roast: "Su had a really cool sense of style, unconventionally speaking - like those blow-up pants or a nice three-piece suit with some pumps, with nails driven into the soles … What you saw and heard from Su was unvarnished and uncalculated. It was an extension of who she was; very organic. She had a wicked sense of humor; a reluctant star. She once proclaimed in an interview with the LA Times that “interviews were obsolete”, which I found refreshing due to the fact that is what all bands wanted to do.“ Today, Sue is an attorney in Newport Beach and can be reached by dialing 1-800-INJURED.
Yes...an art project, done and left for the elements. You are now part of the history/legacy, allowing a glimpse of the hidden. Some of us passed thru a life and NEVER knew about Suburban Lawns, except from rumors and one tune, some had that main line fix, and in this now, we have you as a guide....organic, free, original. Thank You, and to this Channel!!
i saw suburban lawns about 4 times in the 80's . how old aprox. would sue mclane /su tissue be in 2023 ? flavor crytals was my favorite song by suburban lawns .🤔
Su actually lives in upstate New York in the Finger Lakes region after living for many years on the coast of Massachusetts, but I'm sure you know that already ;)
You listen to the body of work by this band and it is all top shelf. Who could they have toured with to mesh audiences? Maybe B-52's or Wall of Voodoo? They are not punk at all. New Wave? Kind of. There was a maturity here and musical professionalism. I really like the breezy guitar feel of "Protection". Wish that one was longer. This song and Green Eyes are fantastic. Sue had a great voice! It's almost like they arrived a couple of years too early. It's so easy to get typecast by Gidget Goes to Hell and Janitor and end up with the wrong audience for their other great branching out material.
Thanks for uploading. This is a much higher quality version than the one that's been on youtube for a while. Terrific song that really ought to be as well known as "Janitor" and "Gidget Goes To Hell."
Wow - King Crimson groove is very well done. How this band was not in a bidding war after this is so sad & predictable. Su always knew about tissue to quotish her quip " Don't forget to wipe" It was only right for her to release her awesome piano album, retire & change her name to Fred Garvin. Minus the truss.
Whoo hoo, Suburban Lawns! I thought I had heard them on Rodney on the Roq vol. 1 or 2, but I just looked and they're not on those. Was there another punk compilation released around that time?
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Hi, Richard, are you one of the Sub Lawns? I did the effects in the video. Also did the video, editing and effects for Janitor. I have pretty high quality slides from the original video. I am glad to see this up here, as I never had a final copy. Denise Gallant
I would love to hear more about this!
@@twentyarms Hear about which? Are you one of the Sub Lawns?
@@twentyarms Here is the synth that created the effects: th-cam.com/video/0VdLVwDwm7s/w-d-xo.html See Sub Lawns reference at 6:20
That's awesome, great work
Do you know what happened to Su?
This is some crazy musicianship for a post punk band.
They might be Post punk but this was 1980
This is the kind of video you'd see on USA's "Night Flight" show at 1am, Friday nights around 1983.
So true. That was a great music video show.
You can now relive those days, Night Flight had a pay channel now and shows vintage episodes
Nailed it.
𝕚𝕟𝕕𝕖𝕖𝕕
In between "take off to heavy metal videos" and Reefer Madness
like early king crimson fronted by a brilliant female singer....
SUCH a badass band.. That drummer !! 🤯🤯🤯 Love Sue so much.. really all the musicians are just amazing
A creative era of music 🙌🏼
Went to see them twice. Once at the Whiskey on Christmas eve and they didn't show. Once opening for Oingo Boingo that new years eve and they did. That show was amazing in every way.
A rare smile of hers is here...
Makes me swoon. There's some LA TV news documentary about the scene c. 1980 where they're featured, and she doesn't say anything while Vex is talking, but gives one of those smiles for a moment.
Mind blown! Never heard of this band before today. How did I never hear of this before now? I think they were just too far ahead of their time. I think they would have been huge in the 90's.
I'm a suburban lawns fan and I've never heard this song
Feeling the I Zimbra vibe on this.
Just brilliant music. Love this band. Sue is a standout.
Su Tissue is the pseudonym of Sue McLane, who was at college in California in 1978, when she joined fellow art student William Ranson in the post-punk band Suburban Lawns. Su does not want to be contacted or involved in talking about the past. The Suburban Lawns song ‘Gidget Goes To Hell’ takes the idea and fascinatingly twists it away from the daddy-idealization to real girl dark teen fantasy - It’s about bunking off school, stealing Dad’s car, driving to the beach and surfing so well that everyone is in awe of her. But none of the boys stand a chance with her because she’s a bad-ass surfer. The film by Jonathan Demme shows the ending where Gidget is presumed eaten by a shark, with Gidget’s giblets washed up on shore cartoon-style. Sue McLane acts, sings and probably had a significant creative hand in this production. According to band-mate Frankie Ennui, Su was reluctant to have live shows recorded, but this was where she was at her most exciting. “You had to see Su do her thing live and in person, in front of a crowd, to really get the full, mind-blowing impact. So many contrasting ideas and emotions were being transmitted. What Su did was real. She really put herself out there, exposed and vulnerable, but aggressively sarcastic and in your face at the same time. Brave. Amazing. Disturbing.” They played LA venues like Masque and Whiskey a gogo. Having obvious musical skills (She went on to study piano and later released a solo piano album, ‘Salon de Musique’), Su sang, played keyboards and bass in the band. This level of musical flair, remember, was unusual for the time. Many of the women who had been drawn to punk were sparky beginners, and the music press were used to judging women in bands on their attractiveness, sexiness and beauty of their voices. “You see, the Suburban Lawns have this Sue Tissue character that soon joins them on keyboards, a very subdued looking girl with long black hair and a predilection for vinyl raincoats and boots. On keyboards she’s almost invisible but then she borrows one of the guy’s bass and steps up front and that’s when you start realizing that this chickie isn’t no wallpaper and that maybe there’s more to the band than first meets the eye. Not only does she play that borrowed bass with more nerve and mean rhythm than a funk pro but she spits out her backing vocals in a most unsubdued, unbacking manner. Something like tense abandon, except more so. But it’s only a bit later, when she finally decides to do her singing full time, giving back the bass and grabbing the mike stand as a drowning cat claws at a stick you offer it that your lame little heart KNOWS that this here is one of the fuckin’ toughest, most unique, most outstanding performing creatures you’re ever likely to see and hear, here or anywhere. If this sounds like jive to, buster, check it out and then tell me to my face that girl ain’t amazing. She may not be on your list of “in people” yet but you see her once and if you’re halfway alive she’ll make number 1 and you’ll just be another shivering fan before you can spell out Lene Lovich That’s a promise. When Sue Tissue sings, nothing else matters. I don’t even know if she’s got a great voice (their really good single doesn’t quite convey what’s it’s about) or if she’s sexy or anything, all I know is that you can’t keep your fuckin’ eyes off her, so strange is her presence, so surprizing is her way AROUND the songs.” -- 1979 live review in Slash magazine. The second self-released single Janitor features a not-that interesting mix-up between the word genitals and janitor - again attributed to Su Tissue, who coined the ‘Oh my genitals, I’m a janitor’ line that apparently made the song - again with an accompanying film. By 1981, Suburban Lawns had signed to IRS records and recorded an album ‘Suburban Lawns’. The support slots became more high-profile, including supports with Siouxsie and the Banshees, 999 and Bow Wow Wow, opening for U2 at Santa Monica and The Clash at Sacramento Auditorium. In some interviews with other band members, there are hints of disputes within the band where the principles of business and art are pitted against one another. To step up from being a reliable and entertaining support band to being a 1980s IRS hit-making success story always seemed to involve compromises and placing particular demands on women in bands. And not all women were happy to comply with the ‘whatever it takes’ view of musical success. This is where all we can do is speculate. From the outset, Sue McLane comes across as having artistic vision, musical talent and not wanting to compromise her privacy and principles for fame or money. According to band mate Chuck Roast: "Su had a really cool sense of style, unconventionally speaking - like those blow-up pants or a nice three-piece suit with some pumps, with nails driven into the soles … What you saw and heard from Su was unvarnished and uncalculated. It was an extension of who she was; very organic. She had a wicked sense of humor; a reluctant star. She once proclaimed in an interview with the LA Times that “interviews were obsolete”, which I found refreshing due to the fact that is what all bands wanted to do.“ Today, Sue is an attorney in Newport Beach and can be reached by dialing 1-800-INJURED.
Yes...an art project, done and left for the elements.
You are now part of the history/legacy, allowing a glimpse of the hidden.
Some of us passed thru a life and NEVER knew about Suburban Lawns, except
from rumors and one tune, some had that main line fix, and in this now, we have
you as a guide....organic, free, original. Thank You, and to this Channel!!
i saw suburban lawns about 4 times in the 80's . how old aprox. would sue mclane /su tissue be in 2023 ? flavor crytals was my favorite song by suburban lawns .🤔
Ever heard of paragraphs?
Su actually lives in upstate New York in the Finger Lakes region after living for many years on the coast of Massachusetts, but I'm sure you know that already ;)
Get off the meth
Su Tissue and Patty Donahue of the Waitresses were always my favorite of this era.
There's some Captain Beefheart to the Lawns. Saw them a few times back in the good old days. Su Tissue was the shit
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That's incredible.
Blown away
As a drummer, I find this song fascinating.
As an accordion player I don't care
She didn't smile often to help reduce the number of broken hearts. Be still my heart @2:41.
So sweet 50 ish years later.
Thanks friend's love you
Love this track and video. And, hot damn, that rhythm section.
These guys were ahead of their time.
Not at all, they were very much OF their time. Listen to Talking Heads I Zimbra and you'll hear this sound. New Wave was just that new.
@@JohnnywhamoDevo as well
Haven't seen this video in 35 years at least. Thanks 👍
me neither.
Why is not Su Tissue not became a big star? She really deserved to be in my opinion.
Because she would have been and no one treats those that would be very well...
Has sort of a King Crimson vibe to it. Some great drumming by Chuck Roast! Dig this stuff!
wow...interesting,i never thought about it.... but it does have that manic fripp-ish structure to it.
I'm picking up liquid liquid
Yes! I was trying to figure out what I was hearing. King Crismson
not, to mention the 'third stone from the sun' vibe happening. JHE first album November 1967
Smooth, with a clean finish... and notes of cherry.
Listen to that groove!!!
subscribing....just because of this one video
Good musicians, they keep it tight and clean 😎
You listen to the body of work by this band and it is all top shelf. Who could they have toured with to mesh audiences? Maybe B-52's or Wall of Voodoo? They are not punk at all. New Wave? Kind of. There was a maturity here and musical professionalism. I really like the breezy guitar feel of "Protection". Wish that one was longer. This song and Green Eyes are fantastic. Sue had a great voice! It's almost like they arrived a couple of years too early. It's so easy to get typecast by Gidget Goes to Hell and Janitor and end up with the wrong audience for their other great branching out material.
Cal Crappie joy division
They'd fit on a bill with bands like Devo and This Heat.
Su was pretty, nice long hair ! hard to believe she is in her mid 60's, how time flies !
this video has cured my flakka induced brain damage
There weren’t many as fascinating as Susan McClane
After hearing this track, I must have this album on vinyl. Amazing musicianship.
i have it on vinyl, flavor crystals is the best song ! 🃏
This is how I remember them...tight disjointed Jazz infused punk, super tight and mesmerizing fun
Great stuff!
Bravo!! Thanks for posting.
Sounds like Lizzy Mercier Descloux.
And that's a monumental good thing
Amazing band.
This is pretty amazing
Thanks for uploading. This is a much higher quality version than the one that's been on youtube for a while. Terrific song that really ought to be as well known as "Janitor" and "Gidget Goes To Hell."
One of the BEST.
Hell Yes
from someplace in the world of averages and laws, this video is, work for me, do something to me, playing golf before play
Very Bow Wow Wow sounding.
I get the Izimbra vibes here. I missed my chance at seeing them when I ended up in the emergency room needing stitches from a broken beer bottle
so good . Thanks !
Nice! The young lady looks like Elizabeth McGovern.
At 2:42 she smiles - never seen before or since.
"Dad, what is this?"
"It's art, I guess."
This is so Bizarre....I love it!
She is a witch, and I am in love with her.
Too Awesome. Chrome meets some weird girl.
Wow this sounds so flippin good!
I just fucking love this
Does anyone else get Primus vibes from this?
This video should be called “peek a boo with Su”
hell,yes.
I'm diggin the tunes.
Hell yes.
many likes !!! perfect
wow, I'm a new fan.
I wonder if this was ever on 120 minutes probably before thier time lol!!
I wish I knew this in 10th grade,,it was happening...wow...I never knew then
"hold on honey this girl keeps playing peek a boo with me on this video"
like this band
Agro beats jar, very mini amounts of fear into my mind suckular holes.... its awesome!!!! like Halloween the movie on 31st 87'....
What a groove! Yowza!
I like it, sounds a little like Hugo Largo
Guitar style reminds me of Oingo Boingo.
It's similar to both Oingo Boingo and Talking Heads.
reminds me of primus a little bit.
Exactly what I thought the first time I heard this band.
Only about 60 years ahead of their time.
Dont ask me how but siouxsie sioux and the banshees got me here.
No DEVO / Talking Heads comments? I guess Ill start.
GrandmasDay32 I'm getting a primus vibe
Probably because we all got directed here because we like those bands too lol...
Primus had a King Crimson vibe.
Primus SUCKS! I'm completely serious here, fuck Les Claypool and that awful slap-bass.
Worse than fucking cow-bell!
Nic Lawson In my opinion, you don't have a very good opinion
You can't tell me Talking Heads and sub lawns weren't listening to each other in the early days!
im sickly satisfied
Wow
is it wrong that i want to go back in time to marry su tissue?
The vocals here remind me of a female version of Scott Walker's later records
Damn!!
That's rowdy.
I think the guy in stripes just joined the band and never heard the girl sing. Then at 0:59 he got scared as fuck.
FELA KUTI LIVES!
Dancing in Venetian blinds and walking on the beach.
Wow - King Crimson groove is very well done. How this band was not in a bidding war after this is so sad & predictable. Su always knew about tissue to quotish her quip " Don't forget to wipe" It was only right for her to release her awesome piano album, retire & change her name to Fred Garvin. Minus the truss.
Amazing.
My eye peepers want restings. Then I'll watch again. Me likes.
Can I come into the out now?
Oh SU !
What's young Jennifer Connelly doing making music videos
Ever notice how each decade gets stupider and stupider?
It's like New Wave Primus.
I was thinking this music video would totally belong in a backdrop for a Primus show! Lol
Please don't insult the suburban lawns like that
@@voltaire2001 Primus and They might be Giants are the 2 bands that will make me leave a room when they're playing
I don’t know why but this sort of reminds me of Siouxsie and the Banshees
I saw Ms. Su about 5 hours ago. Super secret location
Alamitos Bay jetties...
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! :-O
Once again,asking politely: WILL SOMEONE TAB THIS OUT PLEASE
For a slight second... I think I saw Su smile.
I wonder if Sue was An influence on Souixsie?
Talking Heads' I Zimbra
Most def Crimsonesque!
Agreed. I appreciate all various "assemblies" of Crimson. Even the Belew era.
kept expecting it to turn into a Primus or King Crimson song.
Or gentle giant
What movie was she in?
Whoo hoo, Suburban Lawns!
I thought I had heard them on Rodney on the Roq vol. 1 or 2, but I just looked and they're not on those. Was there another punk compilation released around that time?