They made React great again?

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  • @onça_pintuda999
    @onça_pintuda999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7922

    Day 1 of not saying AI in the video

    • @Ochecodes
      @Ochecodes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Day 2 o

    • @tobyboulton8340
      @tobyboulton8340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      YOU AI YOUI LOOSE CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE!!)

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      React 20 will have an integrated AI in the compiler 😂

    • @Gale24
      @Gale24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      day 0 of AI joke comment

    • @TheGalacticVoid
      @TheGalacticVoid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tobyboulton8340 *plays numa numa but with only vowels*

  • @zerthur
    @zerthur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +515

    That Angular namedrop was like Captain America's iconic pose of holding his shield up to his face

  • @EyesOfByes
    @EyesOfByes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5417

    I dont understand a single thing, but the editing goes hard and is hilarious

    • @alechemy
      @alechemy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +769

      - average fireship viewer

    • @monzerfaisal3673
      @monzerfaisal3673 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

      It's OK you'll get there! Just make one custom app from scratch

    • @odddellarobbia4
      @odddellarobbia4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

      do not ask,just add it into your resume 😂

    • @taavipost1515
      @taavipost1515 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      i wish i could understand

    • @comosaycomosah
      @comosaycomosah 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@odddellarobbia4💀

  • @ananayarora
    @ananayarora 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1638

    "thanks for watching and I will see you in the nextjs one"

  • @m-ok-6379
    @m-ok-6379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    jQuery was ridiculously popular because everybody was using the same library and could go from project to project, unlike the JS framework environment that has many options where you have to deal with different frameworks using TS or older versions of the the framework.

    • @sharpenednoodles
      @sharpenednoodles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think you can still say jQuery is ridiculously popular based on the number of sites running it

    • @mikwee
      @mikwee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Honestly, jQuery’s simplicity is still charming, it’s still a fun library to use, just outdated for most projects.

    • @formapedia
      @formapedia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      real devs use Jquery

    • @JovenAlbarida
      @JovenAlbarida 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      John resig is genius guy, 2006 until now jquery still works a charm and simplified, if people just know how structure it nicely.. Unlike the over bloated frameworks nowadays, particularly react

    • @mikwee
      @mikwee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will say though, nowadays I find it complicated to write a whole web app in jQuery.@@JovenAlbarida

  • @Malix_Labs
    @Malix_Labs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3434

    Solid, Svelte:
    Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power

    • @jacksonsingleton
      @jacksonsingleton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      as much as I love svelte. Marketshare...

    • @s1nistr433
      @s1nistr433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +291

      With all of these incredible new changes to React, they hope to make the framework half as good as Svelte by 2060

    • @aberba
      @aberba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@s1nistr433which major companies are using svelte? I've seen and used react almost everywhere

    • @paulm5376
      @paulm5376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ffs on a deja commencé notre projet transverse en react 😀🔫

    • @marusdod3685
      @marusdod3685 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@s1nistr433cope, nothing beats jsx

  • @codetoil
    @codetoil 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Maybe it's time to start considering an EMCA standard for Javascript frameworks...

    • @collynchristopherbrenner3245
      @collynchristopherbrenner3245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      HTMX will probably get there first.

    • @Cloud9er
      @Cloud9er 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      sounds like another framework

  • @Paul-zh2jp
    @Paul-zh2jp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1643

    i accidentally spit water on myself at the mention of angular becoming the one true framework

    • @sadsongs7731
      @sadsongs7731 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      To me it was the Team America vomit meme again.

    • @bryangomez5951
      @bryangomez5951 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      it because it is, btw we are getting native observables in a near future

    • @robbasgaming7044
      @robbasgaming7044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      As a hobby coder I didn't get if it was a joke or not.. 🤔

    • @AlexDubois
      @AlexDubois 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I think it was mainly to drive few comments :) Angular is the source

    • @bryangomez5951
      @bryangomez5951 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robbasgaming7044 the favorite framework of Fireship is Angular. He has said that a few times on his videos.

  • @sharpenednoodles
    @sharpenednoodles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    "And I will see you in the Next.js one"
    nice 😎

  • @TehRoflizer
    @TehRoflizer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +821

    jQuery 4 still supports IE11 but not any older versions - jQuery 5 will drop IE11 (hype!)

    • @Momonga-s7o
      @Momonga-s7o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      I wonder how small will be the userbase of IE11 in 2045

    • @Dekatelon
      @Dekatelon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      ​@@Momonga-s7oThere will be banks with a selected few mainframe APIs, which are internet explorer based - so they won't go away unless those banks go bankrupt

    • @hugazo
      @hugazo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Even microsoft fropped IE11, time to stop worrying about it

    • @utilizator500
      @utilizator500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It's over when I say it's over. I don't let stupid mumbo jumbo shit like "end of life" to tell me how to live. He''ll yeah.

    • @thefatnav
      @thefatnav 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💀

  • @Gohealt
    @Gohealt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    React devs are flip flops. They brag about a hook on Tuesday and on Thursday they will tell it’s ugly as we have a new hook to replace it and this cycle goes on and on till life ends

    • @LusidDreaming
      @LusidDreaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Its insane how much refactor is involved in maintaining a React app if you want to stay current. It seems like every 2 years or so there's a major deprecation or a large portion of the API changed in a breaking way.

    • @Atlastheyote222
      @Atlastheyote222 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ADHD development team tbh

    • @lalithrockz
      @lalithrockz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who brags about hooks, just earn money till its relevant.

    • @archmad
      @archmad 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Lol you do realize your old code still works on react 18 right? Say that to Angular

    • @benkatz8999
      @benkatz8999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why is agility a bad thing? We use the best method available until theres a better one. Git gud

  • @Pirate23772
    @Pirate23772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    I actually learned a lot about React from you just explaining what has changed in the next update. Thank you so much :3

    • @FriskGamer1
      @FriskGamer1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      :3

  • @Mukarram.Jabalah_Tahan
    @Mukarram.Jabalah_Tahan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Transfer of wealth usually occur during market crash, so the more stocks drop, the more I buy, in the meanwhile I'm just focused on making better investments and earning more as recession fear increases, apparently there are strategies to 3x gains in this present market cos I read of someone that pulled a profit of $350k within 6months , and it would really help if you could make a video covering these strategies.

    • @VallesJaquez
      @VallesJaquez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, there are loads of ways to make a killing right now, but such high volume near impeccable trades can only be carried out by real-time experts.

    • @Rasin_Bata
      @Rasin_Bata 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having an lnuestment aduiser is the best way to go about the markef right now, especially for near retiree's, I've been in touch with a coach for awhile now mostly cause I lack the depth krowledge and mental fortitude to deal with these recurring markef conditions, I nettd over $220k during this dip, that made it clear there's more to the markef that we avg joes don't know.

    • @Fariq..Gerges
      @Fariq..Gerges 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Impressive gain! How can I get your adviser please, if you don't mind me asking? I could really use a help as of now.

    • @Tkalcic.Teha77
      @Tkalcic.Teha77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My aduiser Ricardo TayIor, has years of flnanclaI markef experience, look him up on the qpp chqt.

    • @Rasin_Bata
      @Rasin_Bata 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On what's
      App

  • @noelguiavieira
    @noelguiavieira 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +533

    Angular:
    Oh, a compiler. That's cute

    • @fontchastick2328
      @fontchastick2328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @saiphaneeshk.h.5482
      @saiphaneeshk.h.5482 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sorry didn't get the joke 😢
      Can some one explain?

    • @WewasKangs-bd9eb
      @WewasKangs-bd9eb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      ​@@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 It's the Apple's "innovation" moment. Angular has always had compiler. And Angular has always had all the same damn features React is getting lately (but under a different name) because react just wants to confuse us.

    • @anarchoyeasty3908
      @anarchoyeasty3908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      @@WewasKangs-bd9eb To add on to that, Angular having a compiler has been one of the things react devs have derided since React first came out. React is just JS and doesn't have a compiler. Guess not.

    • @ark_knight
      @ark_knight 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@anarchoyeasty3908I don't get it. I mean, you are building the whole damn thing before deploying. What's wrong with a compiler doing its job during building. Maybe a slightly higher build time, but the pros seems definitely better than cons right now.

  • @nestorrente
    @nestorrente 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I don't know about Solid and Svelte, but Vue doesn't need its compiler for the computed() or watchEffect() functions. It resolves dependencies at runtime by listening which reactive values are read when executing the callback (because in Vue everything is a reactive proxy).
    Vue's compiler does different kind of improvements, like template optimization, but has nothing to do with the dependencies check.

  • @shobu_serhao
    @shobu_serhao 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    for vue, the ocmpiler only build the template, the reactivity is based on a proxy system and it's runtime based :)

  • @ezsnova
    @ezsnova 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    Svelte is just good enough for a simple website developer like me. Many of these new frameworks are just so convoluted with made-up weird syntax to accomplish simple things.
    Simplicity is peak.

    • @flogginga_dead_horse4022
      @flogginga_dead_horse4022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      actually svelte has made up weird syntax though

    • @0M9H4X_Neckbeard
      @0M9H4X_Neckbeard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Sounds like you need to convert to our savior HTMX

    • @jonaslamprecht9169
      @jonaslamprecht9169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Svelte's syntax looks like shit to me personally, while react is just pure JavaScript.

    • @flogginga_dead_horse4022
      @flogginga_dead_horse4022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonaslamprecht9169 but react just had to be "fixed" to make it do things the way vue and svelte do it easily

    • @retagainez
      @retagainez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Many websites need to be just simple. We're not making strategy games in the browser all the time... most websites should just present like a continuous, fancy, powerpoint presentation.

  • @AmandaFox-t1u
    @AmandaFox-t1u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how you break down complex trading concepts into simple, easy-to-understand terms. Your videos are a game-changer.

  • @andrewm3406
    @andrewm3406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    RuneScape gnome gets me every time. One of us!

    • @NosurfOfficial
      @NosurfOfficial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Selling yew logs, 300gp

    • @pwntastic4448
      @pwntastic4448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ONE OF US. i guess ill learn svelt to use runes now.

  • @CosteaMelniciuc
    @CosteaMelniciuc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    Yaaay, more time to bill for changing things that don’t actually bring any value to the customer! 🎉❤ thank you frameworks

    • @sunnyarora3557
      @sunnyarora3557 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yaay we are relevant again

    • @wlockuz4467
      @wlockuz4467 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      I swear that's what Meta's devs do to the company but they're just nice enough to do it open source so everyone can do the same to their own company lmao

    • @Daniel15au
      @Daniel15au 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You don't have to use new features... Old components keep working as-is.
      Having said that, having to update code is part of standard maintenance when using any framework, regardless of if it's a frontend or backend framework.

  • @KyleHarrisonRedacted
    @KyleHarrisonRedacted 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Meanwhile I’m over here, waiting to pull the trigger on updating jQuery that exists to simply compliment my PHP/HTMX stack

  • @oumardicko5593
    @oumardicko5593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    At this point, i don’t know if react is a UI library or a template engine 🙃

    • @elvispalace
      @elvispalace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      ecosystem

    • @aberba
      @aberba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Everything about react is solely focused on UI. Data fetching is part of UI

    • @mauriciomdea
      @mauriciomdea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      It's Hell.

    • @Chillycloth
      @Chillycloth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Its a backend framework

    • @leonvdw97
      @leonvdw97 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      It's a joke. A 10 year old joke.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's impressive to see how big a game changer a compiler can be for React. Looks like all major frameworks are gradually converging. Looking forward to seeing this unfold.

  • @daniel4dev
    @daniel4dev 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Something interesting, I don't think Vue's reactivity is achieved because of the compiler. If you console log a ref or reactive at runtime you can see the getters and setters are wrapped with some other calls that binds the reactivity. Which means your reactive code can be dynamic at runtime. Wild

    • @Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny
      @Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Observables are wrapped in a proxy in VUE at runtime.

    • @aravindpallippara1577
      @aravindpallippara1577 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vue also has the computed binding which is similar to usememo anyway which declares it as to be checked for reactivity

    • @untlsn
      @untlsn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SolidJs, Vue, Preact and Qwik use runtime reactivity (probably in Angular too)
      Only Svelte use compiler, but Svelte is known for it use of compiler when it can

    • @marcuss.abildskov7175
      @marcuss.abildskov7175 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They use proxy objects which are sloooooow

    • @Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny
      @Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcuss.abildskov7175 Proxy objects are not slow. In fact they are orders of magnitude faster than how VUE did observables in 2.x.

  • @brendansully12
    @brendansully12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I can't believe I'm just finding your channel now. it's so good

    • @mira-films1169
      @mira-films1169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Welcome pal!

    • @suryas2575
      @suryas2575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Any other channels like this I should know about?

  • @SuperCacazinho
    @SuperCacazinho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    The Angular in the end got me rolling haha

  • @oxymonster1337
    @oxymonster1337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    that Angular at the end hit the back of brain bones

  • @yablaker
    @yablaker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Absolutely love your intense videos man! This is my way of grasping information. It just connects directly to my brain APIs and uploads the data straight to the latent space!
    Too bad YT pays for minutes and not for the information rate..

  • @harrimahlstrom7706
    @harrimahlstrom7706 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I honestly found Angular the easiest and most intuitive to learn, and also love its “reactive” approach of thinking in streams.❤

    • @stephenpaul7499
      @stephenpaul7499 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed. Once you get passed the steep rxjs learning curve, you arrive at a beautiful place. Async flows are so easy to model and debug. Debugging async stuff in react can be rough.

    • @valikonen
      @valikonen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes, but reactivity it's the hard part to master it.

    • @danvilela
      @danvilela 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tried once.. the build was so slow, heavy and clunky that i couldnt go on.. Also.. i hate when people create test files for me (generators). I dont want that crap

    • @codewithryan4646
      @codewithryan4646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@danvilela-skip-tests

    • @lgsscout196
      @lgsscout196 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@danvilela try Angular 17... the build really was slow on previous versions, but in 17 its fast... very fast...

  • @wealthassistant
    @wealthassistant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    recently started learning react and I appreciate them tossing out concepts before I bothered to learn them

    • @TwoLeggedTriceratops
      @TwoLeggedTriceratops 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Every couple years they remove an old bandaid and replace it with a new one… until that one starts to smell.

    • @mrainaandroid8208
      @mrainaandroid8208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just got started. Accept the process as you sure will learn much more in the future. Its unavoidable and the problem of being a developer😂

  • @MCRuCr
    @MCRuCr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!

    • @randerins
      @randerins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hell, I HATE the remake they made with that dude with shitty accent

  • @davidbottiau5408
    @davidbottiau5408 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "In the Next.js one.". I always thought someone should do this joke and he did it unexpectedly. I am so dead.

  • @Lord_Omni
    @Lord_Omni 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me, who is still building web applications using Angular 1 but still hasn't been able to create a slow loading or performing site: "Kids. They love new toys simply because they are new.”

  • @Voidlord1
    @Voidlord1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    your videos are so good, that even as an ex developer i still love to watch them

  • @appletvaccount1364
    @appletvaccount1364 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I watch the code report because I quit software engineering fifteen years ago and have not enough money left over from that time for funding my current life AND for paying a good therapist. "God I'm so glad that I quit" I say to myself every 10 seconds of watching. Best choice ever. I'm so smart. I'm safe now. I'm fine. It was all just a bad dream. Look at that f+++++ hell developers are still going through. React 19 wtf? Hamburger Hill. What an ugly uphill battle. forwardRef W.T.F.?? So glad that I quit. F+++ all that sh+++. I would NEVER touch any of those frameworks ever again. Jesus saved me. I left while I still could. I am fine.

    • @unknownguywholovespizza
      @unknownguywholovespizza 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's so true. It's like a hell and an endless nightmare of pain and suffering trying to catch up with the latest technology 😢

  • @dantelooper2283
    @dantelooper2283 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love this guy, Angular at the end was perfect!
    YOU TELL THEM.

    • @tom7050
      @tom7050 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      angular ... perfect ???
      Is it a troll ?

    • @viniciusmorgado9722
      @viniciusmorgado9722 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tom7050You are not prepared for this conversation.

    • @tom7050
      @tom7050 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@viniciusmorgado9722 LOL ... 20 years of XP , kiss you random

    • @viniciusmorgado9722
      @viniciusmorgado9722 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tom7050 Imagine not getting two ironies in a row and thinking you're smart.

  • @Salah-YT
    @Salah-YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    React 19: Making developers feel like they're riding a unicorn through a rainbow! 🌈 Can't wait to see if it's smoother than butter on hot toast or just another JavaScript drama. Let the framework wars begin! 💥

  • @miracleio
    @miracleio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Thanks for watching, and I will see you in the Next.js one" 😂

  • @iAmTaki
    @iAmTaki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I didn't understood a word of this video and this is what I love about programming. I can write all these cool C/C++ stuff but when it gets to web development I suck. There's so much more to learn, so much to get better at. Software Enginnering is amazing.

    • @Rayer24
      @Rayer24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Web dev scares me

    • @InarusLynx
      @InarusLynx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I started off with c++ -> python -> c# -> javascript(express.js) -> react(next.js).
      Its been a wild ride, but I love full stack development. I find developer humor hularious or get a chuckle out of reading reddit posts bashing frameworks for their bs.

    • @saferugdev8975
      @saferugdev8975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i got experience in web dev (reactjs), game dev (c# unity3d), and blockchain smart contracts (solidity) and i gotta say all of them have their very abstract sides which are scary, but all of them are also very intuitive once you get a hang of it

    • @SmilingBakedBaguette
      @SmilingBakedBaguette 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One could argue that there is so much more to learn in any field. Have you considered Archeology?
      Jokes aside, this changing nature of programming sucks honestly lol. Every 3 years you're having to learn new tools to solve the same old problems.

    • @spaghetti7650
      @spaghetti7650 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good mindset brotha, same.
      I come from c++ and it's a completely different compared to the web. I enjoy web dev much more.

  • @ShawnThroop
    @ShawnThroop 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a writer of mostly Swift, these code examples look bonkers. Mad respect, React devs

  • @Hearrok
    @Hearrok 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    making Angular a standard build in browsers would be so nice

  • @raviteja-mw1mp
    @raviteja-mw1mp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am Java developer. Wanting to learn some front end. There are so many options and its quite confusing to pick one framework

  • @Alt33347
    @Alt33347 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love it , did not understand anything but sounds exciting

  • @hanmingzheng5592
    @hanmingzheng5592 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad that fireship still has a thing for Angular

  • @jvzaniolo
    @jvzaniolo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    React Forget is a compiler that will _possibly_ decrease the number of rerenders a component has when a state or prop changes. It doesn't make up for the fact that React is heavy and slow.

  • @sf-dk8od
    @sf-dk8od 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    "PHP without Lambos" killed me

    • @freyfrenzy
      @freyfrenzy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      someone pls explain this ;_;

    • @tokens_zimeisha6907
      @tokens_zimeisha6907 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dollar sign 💲💲...we use 💲 to declare variables in php, and lambos are costly

  • @jmac732
    @jmac732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i actually love react, not because it’s amazing but because it’s the only framework i learned in school and other frameworks are scary

  • @NewWathcher
    @NewWathcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did you ever consider remaking that old bambo website, great vid by the way

  • @kythrathesuntamer9715
    @kythrathesuntamer9715 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh finally an actual compiler. That will dramatically improve javascript.

  • @AngusMcIntyre
    @AngusMcIntyre 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I hate the front end eco system so, so much

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    this state setState nonsense is still the worst.

    • @samoniumuziejus
      @samoniumuziejus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And redux is still way better ? But I havent heard a word about it on this video... 😮

  • @AngularUniversity
    @AngularUniversity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Angular by default in the browser, that would fix it 👍

  • @EranAranAriel
    @EranAranAriel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    jQuery and AJAX with Java is better

  • @BleepBlop-rh9lm
    @BleepBlop-rh9lm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Indeed! If it was built into the browser with the next version of JS that would be great.

  • @zddayinno
    @zddayinno 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    my old jQuery codes are laughing at me

  • @LeNZian
    @LeNZian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We had speciation, and now we're seeing convergent evolution 😌

  • @slippinchillin
    @slippinchillin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FireShip: It is time we decide on the one true framework
    FireShip: (without giving me chance to consider) Angular

  • @PetrPopel
    @PetrPopel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope that we all go back to good old days. To something like htmx + any backend language and jquery :D

  • @bastost
    @bastost 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw once this extraordinary thing, two frameworks merged: Merb and Rails.

  • @NikolaUzunov-q6k
    @NikolaUzunov-q6k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will there even be a reason to learn NextJs after React 19 comes out,? At least until Next goes one step further and implements a new feature again ?

  • @shootingdutch
    @shootingdutch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching and using these frameworks, I still prefer the simplicity of vanilla JS, never having to worry about upgrades breaking my app and it works everywere: front-end, back-end, mobile apps, desktop. If you solo develop a project and want to run it longterm I still think this is the way to go.

    • @petertyldesley6542
      @petertyldesley6542 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I worked for a company that did this. For simple projects I agree with you, but as it grows in complexity you end up building your own framework. At which point it would have been easier to use an existing framework from the start.

    • @WrittenInFilm
      @WrittenInFilm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@petertyldesley6542 we need a framework for migrating to new frameworks

  • @FredoCorleone
    @FredoCorleone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A project I'm on is IE11 compatible, it's ATM code.

  • @om3galul989
    @om3galul989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Escape the JS world when you still have the chance. Run!!!

    • @deadchannel8431
      @deadchannel8431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh who else you gonna code for web? Web assembly? Be fr

    • @GreyDeathVaccine
      @GreyDeathVaccine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deadchannel8431 HTMX

  • @TopOppTy
    @TopOppTy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Taylor Otwell's Orange Lamborghini being synonymous with PHP since 2015 is hilarious

  • @switchlyrics.
    @switchlyrics. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    u will use forward ref if u are creating a reusable component like a drop down and getting values from it ,maybe,but i dont think if it won't be useful

  • @wlockuz4467
    @wlockuz4467 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Carcinisation is a form of convergent evolution in which non-crab crustaceans evolve a crab-like body plan."
    Every JavaScript framework going through Carcinisation to become the crab of the frameworks.

  • @Malware_Uchiha
    @Malware_Uchiha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Malware Uchiha declare that you are the Best among all Tech You Tubers !
    Stand Proud Fireship, you are strong !!

  • @bahit
    @bahit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:35 "PHP without Lambos" 😂 sounds like he is talking about Taylor Otwell (Laravel). Or I might be missing something here. Hehe

    • @tercmd
      @tercmd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's talking about levelsio (Pieter Levels) who made $3M/yr MRR while all his apps are written in PHP

  • @HoangDuck666
    @HoangDuck666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:24 the best part

  • @smilefriend7171
    @smilefriend7171 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's so bizarre to me how one of the deciding factors between which framework is better is a couple lines of code that accomplish the same thing. In other words, being slightly verbose is considered to be a determining factor on which framework is better. Not DX, not architecture, not maintainability, not speed, not build size, not CWVs, but a couple of lines of code.

  • @Eurotool
    @Eurotool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That mspaint character in the thumbnail gave me flashbacks of 2010 internet. But I can't quite pinpoint where it comes from? Was it a rage comics character?

  • @yewo.m
    @yewo.m 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Thank you for watching, and I'll seeyou in the Next.js one" 💀

  • @sturgeonphillip
    @sturgeonphillip 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that he casually drops one of the best summaries and explanations for useMemo without missing a beat.

  • @carlweis
    @carlweis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Angular...and we build that into the browser, hahaha.. Nice drop there. Let's Go!!!!!

  • @watsoncyrusanikwai3888
    @watsoncyrusanikwai3888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Angular at the end :)

  • @ludosef5902
    @ludosef5902 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is useMemo actually faster than just a multiplication operation?

  • @bulldogjob
    @bulldogjob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Correction: jQuery 4 still supports IE11, they dropped support for earlier versions i.e. IE10 and so on

  • @philrod1
    @philrod1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seven competing frameworks? That's ridiculous! We should build a single framework that does all the things ...
    (xkcd 927)

  • @ElenaHaynes-s9j
    @ElenaHaynes-s9j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing combination of indicators... Great job

  • @seneca983
    @seneca983 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One problem with having One True Framework™ is that it might be more difficult to improve later on, at least in ways that significantly change its logic, because everyone needs to agree on those changes.

  • @kawaiiseiba
    @kawaiiseiba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cracked when he says "One true framework" then followed by a quick small voice "angular~" 🤣🤣

  • @MaulikParmar210
    @MaulikParmar210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The comparisons in comment section shows the state of the current chaotic dev market where people are more actively talking about frameworks than a technology.
    If you're truly a frontend dev then choice of frameworks comes with whatever is used in project or whatever team is fimilar with as most of them are capable of doing same things.
    You use frameworks to assist you, if it's not helping you them it's not for you even if framework is battery included.
    This effect is different on each person depending on how fimilar they are with certain framework and how deep their core concepts of DOM and JS runtime are.
    In anyways there are no best frameworks, there are just frameworks that do things, if certain does job better for you, you don't have to compare and just pick it up unless there are other collaboration and scaling concerns that needs to be adresseed with the workflow.

  • @voxvolhynia5400
    @voxvolhynia5400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Because unlike use context, use can also be used inside of loops and conditionals, but using use allows you to use the value of a result promise"
    "use" doesn't look/sound like a word to me anymore.

  • @leon_ok1540
    @leon_ok1540 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:20 going hard ngl🔥

  • @thekwoka4707
    @thekwoka4707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It was stupid as heck that ref wasn't just passed as a prop anyway. Whoever decided that in the past is an idiot.

  • @zozo1603
    @zozo1603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please like the video if you like the video. So we can give Jeff a feedback, that these are the type of videos we want!
    DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!

  • @ShaharHarshuv
    @ShaharHarshuv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's funny because one of the things I hated about Angular is the fact that it relies heavily on a compiler in a way that makes custom abstractions very difficult.

  • @patco101
    @patco101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love how you squized Angular in there😅😅😅

  • @tal500
    @tal500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Small correction about JQuery 4 Beta: they stopped supporting IE

  • @darkwoodmovies
    @darkwoodmovies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's the thing. React was the first big daddy library/framework, and it became the most popular. Other frameworks solved some of the problems, but for most business purposes it's still worth going with React because that's what developers know, and in turn developers learn it because that's what companies use. This update is great for React because it essentially eliminates a lot of the incentive some staff engineer might have to dabble in another framework. Once they're all more or less the same, React will be the sole king.

  • @Volt-Eye.
    @Volt-Eye. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:57 we should hold a summit for this, wat do u say guys ?

  • @bondbenz6375
    @bondbenz6375 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need a video about hyperscript :)

  • @TayambaMwanza
    @TayambaMwanza 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Angular ahead of the curve once again, had a compiler since its release

    • @BenjaminLeeds
      @BenjaminLeeds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't like Angular (I've done it and React each for 4 years), but I will say, it's a lot harder to make Angular bog down.

    • @TayambaMwanza
      @TayambaMwanza 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BenjaminLeeds
      Have you seen Angulars latest changes?
      - New control flow syntax (no more ngIf)
      - Signals (inputs, outputs, models)
      - Typesafe forms
      - Now RXJS is being made optional

    • @BenjaminLeeds
      @BenjaminLeeds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TayambaMwanza Yes, they are good changes.

  • @PrzemekSmyrdek
    @PrzemekSmyrdek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd appreciate much more honesty from React Core Team, admitting they solve problems that are already solved in different ecosystems (or they have never been considered issues).

  • @wlockuz4467
    @wlockuz4467 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Nature's many attempts to evolve a Javascript framework"

  • @MrBa143
    @MrBa143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who has yet to switch over to Svelte becuase i love all my libraries in react, should this change anything, or should my goal still be to switch over to Svelte?

  • @Markenbreit
    @Markenbreit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes we find it hard to listen because the humor in the videos makes us laugh 😅👍

  • @Imperial_Dynamics
    @Imperial_Dynamics 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love the humor. And the amount of work you put on these videos. THANK YOU

  • @TayoEXE
    @TayoEXE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've only worked with vanilla JS and AFrame as well as React. What is the most recommended web framework to use in 2024 then? Or what are the main pros and cons of each contender?

    • @BenjaminLeeds
      @BenjaminLeeds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read one of 412,331,412 articles on the internet about this. No one has time to explain the most beat-to-death question in web development on a TH-cam comment.

  • @renegadeace1735
    @renegadeace1735 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And I was just about to switch to SolidJS. Thanks.