It's a good sign. Don't be stuborn - be ready to adapt if something better comes along. Angular will be so much more awesome 2 years from now with signals and all the things that can be simplified in the future with them. React will be much better without all the hook-madness. Don't care too much about the others. Vue is awesome, but was just too late to the party and will never catch up in terms of ecosystem and usage. Don't even get me started on Solid and Svelte. Still great that they exist, forcing the mayor players to adapt.
@@Momonga-s7oThere will be banks with a selected few mainframe APIs, which are internet explorer based - so they won't go away unless those banks go bankrupt
React devs are flip flops. They brag about a hook on Tuesday and on Thursday they will tell it’s ugly as we have a new hook to replace it and this cycle goes on and on till life ends
Its insane how much refactor is involved in maintaining a React app if you want to stay current. It seems like every 2 years or so there's a major deprecation or a large portion of the API changed in a breaking way.
I think that's nature really. Frameworks start to adopt and transform to what has shown to work best. We end up with less variety, but that's really whats happening everywhere anywhere.
Yeah I feel like the signal thing is one concrete example where all major js frameworks are getting closer Vue has them (AFAIK with a proxy abstraction) Angular has em (or coming) Svelte Solid In a few years (if we still write code on our own) we'll be able to choose js frameworks by nuances.
I don't know about Solid and Svelte, but Vue doesn't need its compiler for the computed() or watchEffect() functions. It resolves dependencies at runtime by listening which reactive values are read when executing the callback (because in Vue everything is a reactive proxy). Vue's compiler does different kind of improvements, like template optimization, but has nothing to do with the dependencies check.
jQuery was ridiculously popular because everybody was using the same library and could go from project to project, unlike the JS framework environment that has many options where you have to deal with different frameworks using TS or older versions of the the framework.
John resig is genius guy, 2006 until now jquery still works a charm and simplified, if people just know how structure it nicely.. Unlike the over bloated frameworks nowadays, particularly react
@@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 It's the Apple's "innovation" moment. Angular has always had compiler. And Angular has always had all the same damn features React is getting lately (but under a different name) because react just wants to confuse us.
@@WewasKangs-bd9eb To add on to that, Angular having a compiler has been one of the things react devs have derided since React first came out. React is just JS and doesn't have a compiler. Guess not.
@@anarchoyeasty3908I don't get it. I mean, you are building the whole damn thing before deploying. What's wrong with a compiler doing its job during building. Maybe a slightly higher build time, but the pros seems definitely better than cons right now.
Svelte is just good enough for a simple website developer like me. Many of these new frameworks are just so convoluted with made-up weird syntax to accomplish simple things. Simplicity is peak.
Many websites need to be just simple. We're not making strategy games in the browser all the time... most websites should just present like a continuous, fancy, powerpoint presentation.
It's impressive to see how big a game changer a compiler can be for React. Looks like all major frameworks are gradually converging. Looking forward to seeing this unfold.
Absolutely love your intense videos man! This is my way of grasping information. It just connects directly to my brain APIs and uploads the data straight to the latent space! Too bad YT pays for minutes and not for the information rate..
I swear that's what Meta's devs do to the company but they're just nice enough to do it open source so everyone can do the same to their own company lmao
You don't have to use new features... Old components keep working as-is. Having said that, having to update code is part of standard maintenance when using any framework, regardless of if it's a frontend or backend framework.
Something interesting, I don't think Vue's reactivity is achieved because of the compiler. If you console log a ref or reactive at runtime you can see the getters and setters are wrapped with some other calls that binds the reactivity. Which means your reactive code can be dynamic at runtime. Wild
SolidJs, Vue, Preact and Qwik use runtime reactivity (probably in Angular too) Only Svelte use compiler, but Svelte is known for it use of compiler when it can
Agreed. Once you get passed the steep rxjs learning curve, you arrive at a beautiful place. Async flows are so easy to model and debug. Debugging async stuff in react can be rough.
Tried once.. the build was so slow, heavy and clunky that i couldnt go on.. Also.. i hate when people create test files for me (generators). I dont want that crap
I didn't understood a word of this video and this is what I love about programming. I can write all these cool C/C++ stuff but when it gets to web development I suck. There's so much more to learn, so much to get better at. Software Enginnering is amazing.
I started off with c++ -> python -> c# -> javascript(express.js) -> react(next.js). Its been a wild ride, but I love full stack development. I find developer humor hularious or get a chuckle out of reading reddit posts bashing frameworks for their bs.
i got experience in web dev (reactjs), game dev (c# unity3d), and blockchain smart contracts (solidity) and i gotta say all of them have their very abstract sides which are scary, but all of them are also very intuitive once you get a hang of it
One could argue that there is so much more to learn in any field. Have you considered Archeology? Jokes aside, this changing nature of programming sucks honestly lol. Every 3 years you're having to learn new tools to solve the same old problems.
Which framework has the simplest, faster, lean way of doing things with common things (like routes) out of the box? I have suffered so much in the hands of React and just want things done, clean and working.
I personally haven't learned react, angular, or vue but the first framework i chose to learn is sveltekit. Routing is out of the box because you have src/routes/+page.svelte (which is the page for '/' or default route) and if you want to create another page you just have to do it like this: src/routes/SomePage/+page.svelte and navigate like this . It's simple for me because i learned to create frontend website using pure js so routing in sveltekit is really straightforward for me. Edit: fyi my knowledge of sveltekit is only 3 weeks so you should check the docs yourself, i might be wrong idk
I create front-end with AngularJS (learning Angular atm) and I cannot understand what happens in the first two minutes. Why the F would count * 2 be called multiple times if it's saved to a variable?! Especially if it's a const?!
Because the entire component needs to be re-rendered if one of the variables that it uses for rendering the HTML is changed. If you store a variable in a hook `const [count, setCount] = useState(0)` . This is because these are function components, and as functions they don't have an object instance associated with them. So every time you want to update your HTML, React needs to run the function to generate the component again. By binding a variable to a hook, you're "extracting" the variable into the runtime's "memory handler" sorta, so during the next function call it can just retrieve the declared variable from that "memory handler". Without binding it the a hook, the variable is lost once the function goes out of scope, and needs to be created again
I watch the code report because I quit software engineering fifteen years ago and have not enough money left over from that time for funding my current life AND for paying a good therapist. "God I'm so glad that I quit" I say to myself every 10 seconds of watching. Best choice ever. I'm so smart. I'm safe now. I'm fine. It was all just a bad dream. Look at that f+++++ hell developers are still going through. React 19 wtf? Hamburger Hill. What an ugly uphill battle. forwardRef W.T.F.?? So glad that I quit. F+++ all that sh+++. I would NEVER touch any of those frameworks ever again. Jesus saved me. I left while I still could. I am fine.
That mspaint character in the thumbnail gave me flashbacks of 2010 internet. But I can't quite pinpoint where it comes from? Was it a rage comics character?
React 19: Making developers feel like they're riding a unicorn through a rainbow! 🌈 Can't wait to see if it's smoother than butter on hot toast or just another JavaScript drama. Let the framework wars begin! 💥
In Angular < 16 you just decided if you put that function into template (then it will run in every change detection which is uff - not recommended). If you need it in template just use pipe which you explicitly say if its pure/unpure (simplified definition: with or without memo). In Angular >= 16 we have signals and if we use computed() then it's rerendered only when the dependency value has changed - you can choose which dependency attribute you want to track (default) or untrack (wrapped in untracked())
1:11 This is not the case were the component will be rerendered. Instead this way we will not be able to see the result if double changes, as nothing will cause rerender.
Watching and using these frameworks, I still prefer the simplicity of vanilla JS, never having to worry about upgrades breaking my app and it works everywere: front-end, back-end, mobile apps, desktop. If you solo develop a project and want to run it longterm I still think this is the way to go.
I worked for a company that did this. For simple projects I agree with you, but as it grows in complexity you end up building your own framework. At which point it would have been easier to use an existing framework from the start.
Me, who is still building web applications using Angular 1 but still hasn't been able to create a slow loading or performing site: "Kids. They love new toys simply because they are new.”
u will use forward ref if u are creating a reusable component like a drop down and getting values from it ,maybe,but i dont think if it won't be useful
I've only worked with vanilla JS and AFrame as well as React. What is the most recommended web framework to use in 2024 then? Or what are the main pros and cons of each contender?
Read one of 412,331,412 articles on the internet about this. No one has time to explain the most beat-to-death question in web development on a TH-cam comment.
React Forget is a compiler that will _possibly_ decrease the number of rerenders a component has when a state or prop changes. It doesn't make up for the fact that React is heavy and slow.
As someone who has yet to switch over to Svelte becuase i love all my libraries in react, should this change anything, or should my goal still be to switch over to Svelte?
I dont understand a single thing, but the editing goes hard and is hilarious
- average fireship viewer
It's OK you'll get there! Just make one custom app from scratch
do not ask,just add it into your resume 😂
i wish i could understand
@@odddellarobbia4💀
The fact that all of the frameworks become more and more similar is brilliant
@TerrenceDavis-cz3mb is it?
you would think correct, but no, they have to keep inventing more stuff like React Query....just to keep you on your toes;
yes that great, because these were kinda only hard places in React
Convergent evolution 🧬
It's a good sign. Don't be stuborn - be ready to adapt if something better comes along.
Angular will be so much more awesome 2 years from now with signals and all the things that can be simplified in the future with them.
React will be much better without all the hook-madness.
Don't care too much about the others. Vue is awesome, but was just too late to the party and will never catch up in terms of ecosystem and usage. Don't even get me started on Solid and Svelte. Still great that they exist, forcing the mayor players to adapt.
Solid, Svelte:
Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
as much as I love svelte. Marketshare...
With all of these incredible new changes to React, they hope to make the framework half as good as Svelte by 2060
@@s1nistr433which major companies are using svelte? I've seen and used react almost everywhere
ffs on a deja commencé notre projet transverse en react 😀🔫
@@s1nistr433cope, nothing beats jsx
That Angular namedrop was like Captain America's iconic pose of holding his shield up to his face
"thanks for watching and I will see you in the nextjs one"
Lol
Missed this!
Haha I was tripping 😂
pin this
Heart React
JS
Maybe it's time to start considering an EMCA standard for Javascript frameworks...
HTMX will probably get there first.
sounds like another framework
Day 1 of not saying AI in the video
Day 2 o
YOU AI YOUI LOOSE CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE!!)
React 20 will have an integrated AI in the compiler 😂
day 0 of AI joke comment
@@tobyboulton8340 *plays numa numa but with only vowels*
"And I will see you in the Next.js one"
nice 😎
jQuery 4 still supports IE11 but not any older versions - jQuery 5 will drop IE11 (hype!)
I wonder how small will be the userbase of IE11 in 2045
@@Momonga-s7oThere will be banks with a selected few mainframe APIs, which are internet explorer based - so they won't go away unless those banks go bankrupt
Even microsoft fropped IE11, time to stop worrying about it
It's over when I say it's over. I don't let stupid mumbo jumbo shit like "end of life" to tell me how to live. He''ll yeah.
💀
React devs are flip flops. They brag about a hook on Tuesday and on Thursday they will tell it’s ugly as we have a new hook to replace it and this cycle goes on and on till life ends
Its insane how much refactor is involved in maintaining a React app if you want to stay current. It seems like every 2 years or so there's a major deprecation or a large portion of the API changed in a breaking way.
ADHD development team tbh
Who brags about hooks, just earn money till its relevant.
Lol you do realize your old code still works on react 18 right? Say that to Angular
Why is agility a bad thing? We use the best method available until theres a better one. Git gud
I think that's nature really. Frameworks start to adopt and transform to what has shown to work best. We end up with less variety, but that's really whats happening everywhere anywhere.
Yeah I feel like the signal thing is one concrete example where all major js frameworks are getting closer
Vue has them (AFAIK with a proxy abstraction)
Angular has em (or coming)
Svelte
Solid
In a few years (if we still write code on our own) we'll be able to choose js frameworks by nuances.
@@cedi2929There is also a signal implementation for React. It probably doesn't have the best DX, but it looked usable in the tutorials.
@@JanVerny interesting thanks for the insight.
And it basically took 30 years.
In most disciplines, implementation comes before theory, and good things are born into theory during implementation
Love how Fireship comes out of the closet at the end with Angular 😂❤
I actually learned a lot about React from you just explaining what has changed in the next update. Thank you so much :3
:3
I don't know about Solid and Svelte, but Vue doesn't need its compiler for the computed() or watchEffect() functions. It resolves dependencies at runtime by listening which reactive values are read when executing the callback (because in Vue everything is a reactive proxy).
Vue's compiler does different kind of improvements, like template optimization, but has nothing to do with the dependencies check.
i accidentally spit water on myself at the mention of angular becoming the one true framework
To me it was the Team America vomit meme again.
it because it is, btw we are getting native observables in a near future
As a hobby coder I didn't get if it was a joke or not.. 🤔
I think it was mainly to drive few comments :) Angular is the source
@@robbasgaming7044 the favorite framework of Fireship is Angular. He has said that a few times on his videos.
for vue, the ocmpiler only build the template, the reactivity is based on a proxy system and it's runtime based :)
jQuery was ridiculously popular because everybody was using the same library and could go from project to project, unlike the JS framework environment that has many options where you have to deal with different frameworks using TS or older versions of the the framework.
I think you can still say jQuery is ridiculously popular based on the number of sites running it
Honestly, jQuery’s simplicity is still charming, it’s still a fun library to use, just outdated for most projects.
real devs use Jquery
John resig is genius guy, 2006 until now jquery still works a charm and simplified, if people just know how structure it nicely.. Unlike the over bloated frameworks nowadays, particularly react
I will say though, nowadays I find it complicated to write a whole web app in jQuery.@@JovenAlbarida
I already lost my shit at "That's right, I use React" part
I can't believe I'm just finding your channel now. it's so good
Welcome pal!
Any other channels like this I should know about?
Angular:
Oh, a compiler. That's cute
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sorry didn't get the joke 😢
Can some one explain?
@@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 It's the Apple's "innovation" moment. Angular has always had compiler. And Angular has always had all the same damn features React is getting lately (but under a different name) because react just wants to confuse us.
@@WewasKangs-bd9eb To add on to that, Angular having a compiler has been one of the things react devs have derided since React first came out. React is just JS and doesn't have a compiler. Guess not.
@@anarchoyeasty3908I don't get it. I mean, you are building the whole damn thing before deploying. What's wrong with a compiler doing its job during building. Maybe a slightly higher build time, but the pros seems definitely better than cons right now.
1:37 Shout out to the Runescape runes!
shoutout to that little gnome too
I have all skills maxed
Small mistake in your video: AFAIK Vue doesn't need a compiler for computed, it tracks the dependencies at runtime.
I tend to agree. I use AlpineJS that's based on @vue/reactivity and it makes an intensive use of ECMAScript Proxy objects
@@nicejunglealpine is the shittiest framework.
@@hamza_dev dont talk about things you know nothing
@@nicejungle still shittiest
@@hamza_devok ignorant troll
This video summarises why I stopped doing frontend stuff around when people started using angular
it was a good idea to limit your focus to java, php, golang, c#, npm, nuget, oracle mysql, mongodb, postgres, supabase, firebase, aws, azure and gcp;
Same, I am stuck doing some react right now and holy crap do I hate it.
Svelte is just good enough for a simple website developer like me. Many of these new frameworks are just so convoluted with made-up weird syntax to accomplish simple things.
Simplicity is peak.
actually svelte has made up weird syntax though
Sounds like you need to convert to our savior HTMX
Svelte's syntax looks like shit to me personally, while react is just pure JavaScript.
@@jonaslamprecht9169 but react just had to be "fixed" to make it do things the way vue and svelte do it easily
Many websites need to be just simple. We're not making strategy games in the browser all the time... most websites should just present like a continuous, fancy, powerpoint presentation.
It's impressive to see how big a game changer a compiler can be for React. Looks like all major frameworks are gradually converging. Looking forward to seeing this unfold.
I Reacted very positively to this news
That's a Solid argument but I don't agree with your point of Vue.
I'm glad you used(time) to post this insight.
@@NadjibSamsung nice!
The devs must be very Fluttered by all these positive Reactions
Hope they will make it Prettier in the Next release. The actual State is not Angular enough for me
Absolutely love your intense videos man! This is my way of grasping information. It just connects directly to my brain APIs and uploads the data straight to the latent space!
Too bad YT pays for minutes and not for the information rate..
RuneScape gnome gets me every time. One of us!
Selling yew logs, 300gp
ONE OF US. i guess ill learn svelt to use runes now.
I love how you break down complex trading concepts into simple, easy-to-understand terms. Your videos are a game-changer.
Yaaay, more time to bill for changing things that don’t actually bring any value to the customer! 🎉❤ thank you frameworks
Yaay we are relevant again
I swear that's what Meta's devs do to the company but they're just nice enough to do it open source so everyone can do the same to their own company lmao
You don't have to use new features... Old components keep working as-is.
Having said that, having to update code is part of standard maintenance when using any framework, regardless of if it's a frontend or backend framework.
that Angular at the end hit the back of brain bones
Something interesting, I don't think Vue's reactivity is achieved because of the compiler. If you console log a ref or reactive at runtime you can see the getters and setters are wrapped with some other calls that binds the reactivity. Which means your reactive code can be dynamic at runtime. Wild
Observables are wrapped in a proxy in VUE at runtime.
Vue also has the computed binding which is similar to usememo anyway which declares it as to be checked for reactivity
SolidJs, Vue, Preact and Qwik use runtime reactivity (probably in Angular too)
Only Svelte use compiler, but Svelte is known for it use of compiler when it can
They use proxy objects which are sloooooow
@@marcuss.abildskov7175 Proxy objects are not slow. In fact they are orders of magnitude faster than how VUE did observables in 2.x.
your videos are so good, that even as an ex developer i still love to watch them
The Angular in the end got me rolling haha
I love this guy, Angular at the end was perfect!
YOU TELL THEM.
angular ... perfect ???
Is it a troll ?
@@tom7050You are not prepared for this conversation.
@@konoko-o3o LOL ... 20 years of XP , kiss you random
@@tom7050 Imagine not getting two ironies in a row and thinking you're smart.
At this point, i don’t know if react is a UI library or a template engine 🙃
ecosystem
Everything about react is solely focused on UI. Data fetching is part of UI
It's Hell.
Its a backend framework
It's a joke. A 10 year old joke.
Meanwhile I’m over here, waiting to pull the trigger on updating jQuery that exists to simply compliment my PHP/HTMX stack
jQuery mentioned
Actions DX being like PHP but without Lambos, I lost it there ☠️
Same 🙂
Plot twist: I am PHP Dev.
I honestly found Angular the easiest and most intuitive to learn, and also love its “reactive” approach of thinking in streams.❤
Agreed. Once you get passed the steep rxjs learning curve, you arrive at a beautiful place. Async flows are so easy to model and debug. Debugging async stuff in react can be rough.
yes, but reactivity it's the hard part to master it.
Tried once.. the build was so slow, heavy and clunky that i couldnt go on.. Also.. i hate when people create test files for me (generators). I dont want that crap
@@danvilela-skip-tests
@@danvilela try Angular 17... the build really was slow on previous versions, but in 17 its fast... very fast...
recently started learning react and I appreciate them tossing out concepts before I bothered to learn them
Every couple years they remove an old bandaid and replace it with a new one… until that one starts to smell.
You just got started. Accept the process as you sure will learn much more in the future. Its unavoidable and the problem of being a developer😂
I didn't understood a word of this video and this is what I love about programming. I can write all these cool C/C++ stuff but when it gets to web development I suck. There's so much more to learn, so much to get better at. Software Enginnering is amazing.
Web dev scares me
I started off with c++ -> python -> c# -> javascript(express.js) -> react(next.js).
Its been a wild ride, but I love full stack development. I find developer humor hularious or get a chuckle out of reading reddit posts bashing frameworks for their bs.
i got experience in web dev (reactjs), game dev (c# unity3d), and blockchain smart contracts (solidity) and i gotta say all of them have their very abstract sides which are scary, but all of them are also very intuitive once you get a hang of it
One could argue that there is so much more to learn in any field. Have you considered Archeology?
Jokes aside, this changing nature of programming sucks honestly lol. Every 3 years you're having to learn new tools to solve the same old problems.
good mindset brotha, same.
I come from c++ and it's a completely different compared to the web. I enjoy web dev much more.
Which framework has the simplest, faster, lean way of doing things with common things (like routes) out of the box? I have suffered so much in the hands of React and just want things done, clean and working.
Nuxt 3 (Vue)
I personally haven't learned react, angular, or vue but the first framework i chose to learn is sveltekit. Routing is out of the box because you have src/routes/+page.svelte (which is the page for '/' or default route) and if you want to create another page you just have to do it like this: src/routes/SomePage/+page.svelte and navigate like this . It's simple for me because i learned to create frontend website using pure js so routing in sveltekit is really straightforward for me.
Edit: fyi my knowledge of sveltekit is only 3 weeks so you should check the docs yourself, i might be wrong idk
@@whoami724y Seems promising
@@whoami724y Vue is IMHO just the best most stable framework.
Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!
hell, I HATE the remake they made with that dude with shitty accent
Can we try the compiler any time soon? And when will react 19 be released?
Angular 17 is awesome btw :D
I create front-end with AngularJS (learning Angular atm) and I cannot understand what happens in the first two minutes. Why the F would count * 2 be called multiple times if it's saved to a variable?! Especially if it's a const?!
Because the entire component needs to be re-rendered if one of the variables that it uses for rendering the HTML is changed. If you store a variable in a hook `const [count, setCount] = useState(0)` . This is because these are function components, and as functions they don't have an object instance associated with them. So every time you want to update your HTML, React needs to run the function to generate the component again.
By binding a variable to a hook, you're "extracting" the variable into the runtime's "memory handler" sorta, so during the next function call it can just retrieve the declared variable from that "memory handler". Without binding it the a hook, the variable is lost once the function goes out of scope, and needs to be created again
I love the RuneScape reference. Osrs series when?
As a writer of mostly Swift, these code examples look bonkers. Mad respect, React devs
I’ve been using solid for some time now, and when I looked at that unintuitive react code, I now remember why I never looked back.
@merluzo8269 you dont need a framework or a library to "call functions whenever you want". why so dense? you obviusly know what they meant
I love how I don't even code (nor know how to) but am able to enjoy myself and understand what you are talking about!
bro why are you here then
Because I enjoy myself with the updates 😁
Love it , did not understand anything but sounds exciting
Your ability to simplify complex concepts is impressive and greatly appreciated
2:35 "PHP without Lambos" 😂 sounds like he is talking about Taylor Otwell (Laravel). Or I might be missing something here. Hehe
He's talking about levelsio (Pieter Levels) who made $3M/yr MRR while all his apps are written in PHP
I like the violence in the ending - both in Angular and in the footage :D
I watch the code report because I quit software engineering fifteen years ago and have not enough money left over from that time for funding my current life AND for paying a good therapist. "God I'm so glad that I quit" I say to myself every 10 seconds of watching. Best choice ever. I'm so smart. I'm safe now. I'm fine. It was all just a bad dream. Look at that f+++++ hell developers are still going through. React 19 wtf? Hamburger Hill. What an ugly uphill battle. forwardRef W.T.F.?? So glad that I quit. F+++ all that sh+++. I would NEVER touch any of those frameworks ever again. Jesus saved me. I left while I still could. I am fine.
That's so true. It's like a hell and an endless nightmare of pain and suffering trying to catch up with the latest technology 😢
3:57 we should hold a summit for this, wat do u say guys ?
0:59 never forget 🫡
That mspaint character in the thumbnail gave me flashbacks of 2010 internet. But I can't quite pinpoint where it comes from? Was it a rage comics character?
"PHP without Lambos" killed me
someone pls explain this ;_;
Dollar sign 💲💲...we use 💲 to declare variables in php, and lambos are costly
React 19: Making developers feel like they're riding a unicorn through a rainbow! 🌈 Can't wait to see if it's smoother than butter on hot toast or just another JavaScript drama. Let the framework wars begin! 💥
this state setState nonsense is still the worst.
And redux is still way better ? But I havent heard a word about it on this video... 😮
By curiosity, how angular leads with the useMemo scenario?
In the way like, you don't need to worry about, you choose when you rerender
In Angular < 16 you just decided if you put that function into template (then it will run in every change detection which is uff - not recommended). If you need it in template just use pipe which you explicitly say if its pure/unpure (simplified definition: with or without memo). In Angular >= 16 we have signals and if we use computed() then it's rerendered only when the dependency value has changed - you can choose which dependency attribute you want to track (default) or untrack (wrapped in untracked())
In Vues case it uses proxies. When you change a variable the necessary components will rerender. You don't have to think about it at all.
4 mins of talking and all I can hear is Svete is better 😂
I have learned so much React in the last year that this actually makes sense.
I hate the front end eco system so, so much
1:11 This is not the case were the component will be rerendered. Instead this way we will not be able to see the result if double changes, as nothing will cause rerender.
jQuery and AJAX with Java is better
Did you ever consider remaking that old bambo website, great vid by the way
Not sure what was going on till 4:08 but I am glad the Angular TL;DR was clear!
Will there even be a reason to learn NextJs after React 19 comes out,? At least until Next goes one step further and implements a new feature again ?
I love that he casually drops one of the best summaries and explanations for useMemo without missing a beat.
If they're all so similar, is it worth learning Svelte for a small app build, or just use Angular which I already know?
Wait... is the compiler the big thing, or the compiler macros?
As short and concise as it is, this is only channel I really understood the new features in react 19.
Watching and using these frameworks, I still prefer the simplicity of vanilla JS, never having to worry about upgrades breaking my app and it works everywere: front-end, back-end, mobile apps, desktop. If you solo develop a project and want to run it longterm I still think this is the way to go.
I worked for a company that did this. For simple projects I agree with you, but as it grows in complexity you end up building your own framework. At which point it would have been easier to use an existing framework from the start.
@@petertyldesley6542 we need a framework for migrating to new frameworks
Me, who is still building web applications using Angular 1 but still hasn't been able to create a slow loading or performing site: "Kids. They love new toys simply because they are new.”
Taylor Otwell's Orange Lamborghini being synonymous with PHP since 2015 is hilarious
u will use forward ref if u are creating a reusable component like a drop down and getting values from it ,maybe,but i dont think if it won't be useful
A project I'm on is IE11 compatible, it's ATM code.
We had speciation, and now we're seeing convergent evolution 😌
Indeed! If it was built into the browser with the next version of JS that would be great.
i actually love react, not because it’s amazing but because it’s the only framework i learned in school and other frameworks are scary
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Is typescript still better though even with the react compiler?
I've only worked with vanilla JS and AFrame as well as React. What is the most recommended web framework to use in 2024 then? Or what are the main pros and cons of each contender?
Read one of 412,331,412 articles on the internet about this. No one has time to explain the most beat-to-death question in web development on a TH-cam comment.
React Forget is a compiler that will _possibly_ decrease the number of rerenders a component has when a state or prop changes. It doesn't make up for the fact that React is heavy and slow.
I saw once this extraordinary thing, two frameworks merged: Merb and Rails.
3:24 the best part
What we really need, is a framework for updating code of old frameworks.
Which time it was fixed?
As someone who has yet to switch over to Svelte becuase i love all my libraries in react, should this change anything, or should my goal still be to switch over to Svelte?
is useMemo actually faster than just a multiplication operation?
I'm glad that fireship still has a thing for Angular
making Angular a standard build in browsers would be so nice
If react is getting an update and we use react in the next js then does it mean we are also getting rid of these hooks in the next.js too??
I hope that we all go back to good old days. To something like htmx + any backend language and jquery :D
Damn, can't wait for react 19 to be available with react-native
Amazing combination of indicators... Great job
i love the humor. And the amount of work you put on these videos. THANK YOU