@@PhoenixSC The stairs are crazy because the regular stairs are 6/8 of a block but to a corner stairs adding another square, making it 7/8 . Where did the extra part of the block come from?
"if you split a cake into 3 each piece is 0.333, so where is the 0.001? you will find it on the knife." (this is a joke, someone complained) dude i made this one minute ago how's it already got liked twice?
The purpose of a button obviously is for them to complete their task by sending a short period of Redstone before turning off. Knowing just this much can maybe answer as to why the Stone button is better at cycling...shorter cooldown. Other than that, I'm not sure.
Maybe because stone is stiffer than wood? If you push a stone, it will bend less, and it will spring back very quickly, but if you push wood, it will bend more and will take longer to spring back. Since the button clearly springs back of its own accord, and it's only made of wood or stone respectively, it mush have a spring made of wood or stone inside.
the button dilemma is easily explained by steve cramming the rest of the block into a miniature black hole within the button, which is used to power the button's infinite energy source
Fun fact here: The button recipe used to be SOMEHOW WORSE in beta minecraft Instead of crafting buttons with only one stone block, you would need 2 stone vertically to craft ONE Not only that but the slabs also had a terrible recipe. You would need to use 3 planks to craft 3 slabs, it was pure madness
I came here to write this comment, but this channel is PhoenixSC, so someone of course was faster. Did wooden buttons not exist bank then? After all, the same recipe with wood gives you sticks...
@@jonistan9268 Yup. Back in ye olden days there was no wooden button. People wanted a button that could be triggered by arrows and said "Hey, wooden pressure plates are triggered with items while stone ones are not, how about a wooden button?" And mojang said ok
All of the 85.33 are actually pebbles. 84.33 pebbles are compiled, converted into one piece of redstone, and then combined with the remaining pebble to create the same pebble but with redstone capability, also known as a button.
@@drumstick7430 You can find that in Education edition redstone is 31 carbon, 31 uranium, and 38 unknown element. So what is that element that was found in stone that was compressed to be able to make the unknown element.
My theory is that, as visually represented in the game, the bamboo planks are actually dry bamboo as opposed to the green one from the block of bamboo, so it has lost the mass from the water it contained, and also since bamboo is hollow, to make a plank you'd need to fill in the gaps.
@@ToonedMinecraft he means the moisture of water that the bamboo contained is removed after cutting it and thus Deducting the mass of it too. Just like if you're 60% water and if we.... You know now...
Oh my god! When you said to pause and think how much buttons this is gonna be, i approximated 12 x 7 buttons in a block (where one slice is like 3x4, and there would be around 7 slices), which equals to 84, and the answer was 85.33 (4:13) I'm so happy, i've never been so close when someone said to approximate something in a TH-cam video. Omg i'm gonna cry
I do woodworking with fresh-cut wood. Often for certain specific uses, you have to use a specific part of a tree. Maybe the average wood/stone block in Minecraft is good enough for building material, but is too knotty/has too many micro-fractures to be used in a button that needs to give a reliable output and stand up to a lot of wear (a club, for example, lasts longest when it's made from something heavy like apple wood, but specifically from the root ball of a sapling)
@@samuels1123 you need to factor in that in minecraft, 1 m^3 lumber becomes 4 m^3 planks. unlike the real world, where depending on the wood, you lose alot of mass in the creation of planks. 1m^3 raw lumber becoming 4 buttons seems waistefull but i dont think it is that unrealistic. (I am not a woodworker)
That's fair, after all, the stick recipe doesn't make sense from a volume perspective, either, but as a game mechanic it's not so bad. But only getting one button from an entire block is kinda strange from either perspective.
Wooden planks can smelt 1.5 items Wooden buttons can smelt 0.5 items If volumetric accuracy for the crafting was a thing, a single plank should be able to smelt 42.6 items if you craft it into buttons first.
Pretty sure Steve’s muscles are so strong that he can just crush the block into a compact size and manually move the particles, since A: This guy can sprint as fast as a professional athlete while carrying 63,936 blocks of solid gold, and B: He can make buttons without the help of a crafting table.
I actually really like the button crafting recipe. Sometimes you just need _one_ button. And for those moments, That odd number of planks you have from crafting that boat ages ago? Now perfectly even, AND you have he button you need, AND it doesn’t take up any inventory space.
I think that 1) they should add a “woodcutter” just like the stonecutter 2) when on the crafting table, it would give the same amount like now because Steve has to chisel the stone/wood and lose some of it (does not apply to stairs, both should be 6), like while on the crafting table one plank/stone is one button, on the cutter it would be a stack or smth
To be fair, in real life mining and manufacture, you are gonna end up with some unusable waste materials, especially if what you are working with is pretty complicated. Examples include, slag, sawdust, stone aggregate, and other bits of scrap, so I could understand losing some materials in the crafting process. In the case of a button, there would be some internal mechanisms that Steve would have to create, which I'm sure would lead to some material lose, but that being said, I do agree that one teeny tiny push button for a whole meter by meter block is a little silly.
You get 4 buttons for a meter block. Logs make 4 planks, which implies logs are at least 3/4 filled with air or glue or asbestos or whatever. And that’s only if no material is lost in the process, turned to sawdust or unusable scrap.
Fun Fact: 1 Bamboo is one second of smelting (In a furnace) But a stick is 2.5. So, if you just use two bamboo (2 seconds smelting) to make a stick (2.5) you get more usage.
@@geckoanims Actually, it's 7 seconds to smelt one item, so it would take 3 sticks and 7 bamboo. Also, I'm talking about in Bedrock (My MC launcher isn't working so I've had to play on it) so there might be a difference. I timed it on my world a while ago.
From the Minecraft Wiki: "Bamboo can be used as fuel for smelting. Each bamboo item smelts 0.25 items. Crafting two bamboo into a stick and using that as fuel is equivalent, smelting 0.5 items." The only way you benefit is if you craft bamboo into ladders.
I’ve never minded that material is seemingly lost as that’s what would happen in real life especially for precise/ complex things like buttons and pressure plates
Very logical and reasopnable. The only way this could be avoided is if the game add tons of "waste bits" items, say a "sawdust" item, or "useless oddly shaped plank" item, etc., but then the game would have to add actual USES for all that stuff othwerwise it's just items cluttering your inventory for no good reason. Better to just ignore it like you do.
It's still way too much waste. If you have a 1mx1mx1m block and you are so wasteful that you only get one button out of it, you're doing something wrong. The waste makes sense in some cases, but a block should at least give you 16 buttons.
In the crafting grid, the button item is twice as thick, being 4x4x6, with the in game logic being maybe the other half is in the block, which would half the number to atleast below a stack
I think that the bamboo loss in turning bamboo to planks and then sticks is justifiable, because it allows you to carry potentially 4x more sticks in your inventory than normal bamboo (when crafting directly from bamboo planks to sticks).
Here's my interpretation: The bamboo -> stick recipe is basically tying bamboo pieces end-to-end, and the stick retains its strength. Bamboo blocks -> planks splits and unrolls the bamboo segments into thinner, weaker pieces, so in order to create sticks of the same durability, the split pieces must be layered parallel to each other and bound, possibly using fibers from the bamboo itself.
1:52 for the people that didnt understand and arent math bois, log in this case stands for the math operation "logarithm", and if you put it in a calculator, log(1) = 0 Im not gonna explain what a logarithm is though 🤓🤓🤓
For the people that are curious as to what a logarithm is, it's the inverse function of an exponential function, so where 2³ = 8, log₂(8) = 3 because two to the power of three is eight
1:23 the problem is, 1 bamboo makes 0.5 stick, and you can't have that number of sticks in your inventory, because you'd have to recode entire game to do that. So, devs had to solutions:1 - to give you bigger amount of sticks when you craft them using bamboo blocks compering with other crafts, witch probably would destroy any value that sticks had (you basically making sticks out of nowhere) or, 2- give people only 4 sticks, if they for some reason need to take extra steps to make 4 sticks
@@louismaciver8262 but then you couldn't craft anything coal block, iron block, diamond block, gold block, emerald block, armor, glass bottle, fishing rod, redstone lamp, whatever copper can make, whatever process is used to make stairs, etc
In my personal datapack mod, I have it so the crafting recipe for stairs gives 6 instead of 4. While 8 would increase parity with how much space the stair occupies, three complications: 1. The amount of volume a stair occupies changes with connections to other stairs, making it an inconsistent measurement method. 2. I don't think there's any way to alter the number of stairs outputted by stonecutter recipes, so I opted for parity with stairs-via-stonecutter instead. 3. Unless you're using it for something decorative like a house roof, under normal circumstances you'll likely use stairs at a 1:1 ratio with the blocks you're sparing yourself the hassle of jumping over, so getting as many stairs as there are blocks in the recipe is a reasonable conversion to settle for. Given your musings however, I agree that buttons should be more efficient given their simplicity, and I might even add that to my datapack mod now that I've seen this. That said, I think I'd lean towards 8, 12, or 16 buttons for balance purposes, going full realism and turning a single block into well over a stack of buttons might be a tad excessive.
@@cKoruss that's even worse. I have never known anyone who could actually use a trackpad with any level of proficiency outside of getting frustrated when the trackpad suddenly decides to stop registering their movement for no reason.
@@AceFuzzLord used to draw little fandom images on a simple corner extension for drawing (was bored in class) on chromebooks (They *actually* look decent, im not that bad at drawing or doodling)
A block's texture has 16 pixels. wooden plank = 4096px³ (16³) wooden button = 48px³ (2*4*6) 48/4096 = 0.01171875 in conclusion, 99% of it fades into nothing. or exactly 98.828125% Also, 4096px³ = 1m³, because 1 block = 1 meter. Meaning, from a meter cubed of wood, is.. 0.01171875m³ ((2/16)*(4/16)*(6/16))? Wait what? Well, this is because 1 block = 1 meter, so 4096px³=1m³. So it is the exact same. Now, how many buttons should we really get? 1/0.01171875 = 85.̅3̅3̅ (this is because 0.01171875 is how much 1 button is compared to 1 wooden block) I did the math. You're welcome. (I have not seen Phoenix's answer during the making of this comment)
Trapdoors and doors are insane too. In recipe of trapdoors you get 2 trapdoors with hight of 0.1875 from 6 blocks. You are missing 5.625 blocks. You are missing 93.75 percent of wood
@@rizkidary837 door is insane too. Less insane than trapdoor but from 2 wooden planks you should get at least 3, yet you have to waste 3 more planks for nothing
Steve has to filter tiny pieces of redstone dust from the stone to allow the button to function. Because there is so little redstone in a singular stone block, Steve can only make one button. This also applies to wood as they absorb tiny pieces of redstone dust through their trunks.
i cant believe it, minecraft has been polluted by microredstone from the years of unchecked redstone engineering the industrial redstonelution and its consequences
@DWal32 Yes, we must limit our use of our redstone powered flying machines and other doodads that are rasing redstone levels in our ground and atmosphere our minecraft worlds before it is too late.
Well, if push of a button gives you as much redstone energy as block of redstone, maybe 71 missing buttons are used for containing a power of redstone block within one small button
Considering that we get 4 planks out of a log, I assume that the planks are either empty inside or somehow not as dense as the log. And the log might be secretly hollow as well. The button, on the other hand, is entirely wooden, with no air in between the wood. This means that we have to compress the wood to make the button, which is not really hard if we assume that all wood that planks contain is present in a thin layer on the surface of the block.
Bro to compress that small, the wood planks would have to be thin as a popsicle stick in block form. Imagine climbing on to that and it just shattering into a million splinters up your glutes. 😂
@@Chicky_Lumps if blocks could shatter under your weight, then you wouldn't be able to stand on glass panes. And you can also stand on a composter, even though its border is not really thick. Turtle eggs are the only exception, but they're weird on their own.
1:10 well, this makes sense actually. after more processing it would cost more total raw materials, as throughout the process of processing it you would be chopping some off (therefore losing some)
We have a stonecutter. It is time for a woodcutter. Particularly to fix the stairs issues (or they could just...change the yield to either 6 or 8 stairs...)
I guessed 36 buttons, multiplying 9 by the (vertically) visible number of boards in a plank to be generous. But at least my seriously underestimated number makes some kind of logic given the aesthetics of the wood, and the fact that sawing wood always generates a certain amount of waste.
I actually found something out about the bamboo recently. I’m unsure if anybody else knows but bamboo has a set placement. Doesn’t matter how many times you remove and replant it will stay in that corner and where you’re facing doesn’t change it. BUT there is a challenge with this though. I’m yet to find a block which the bamboo aligns perfectly in the center 😂
Stairs should give you 6 because it’s not like you have magic glue that can stick the sawed off parts together to make more stairs The stone cutter also does 1:1 for stairs too
Actually pandas sitting on top of the in-game economics. They do not make a cut on makeshift items you can craft on fly. But they will make 1/9 cut for general use of crafting table for bamboo.
My least favorite recipe is the hanging sign. Not only does it require stripped logs, yet still appears to be made of planks, it also requires 1 2/9 of an Iron Ingot. And the Wood-to-sign ratio is actually half that of regular signs. Why mojang. Why.
@@CerealIs2Gud it literally has the exact same texture as stripped logs. The only one that looks like planks is the bamboo one because the stripped bamboo block has the exact same texture as the plank
The first part is kinda good fun, but this kinda math regularly allows me to make infinite generators in some modpacks because they overlook certain recipes (or ones added by other mods).
Someone should make a “matter conservation” mod where the stairs recipe gives you 8 stairs and changes the button’s size to 8x4x2 pixels so the crafting recipe can give you a stack per block (since it would be weird to give a player more than one stack of an item in a single recipe).
@@Shako_Lamb I agree. 3 blocks for 4 stairs is good They can keep the old recipe, since it's exactly twice the number of blocks, and it would give 8 stairs, for people who are used to it.
The most tragic crafting recipe is the banner, I should know, I build castles all the time and decorate with them 6 wool blocks = 1 thin layered banner
In my option, from 1 block you should get 1 stair and a lot of buttons so when you are building roof you get full inventory of termites Plus you should get a lava bucket togetrid ofthe buttons and a netherite sword to kill mobs cuzwhrn u was doing all this, it became night.
Revisiting this. If we wanna be perfectly mathematical for the buttons, then 3 planks/stone will make a satisfying, perfect 4 stacks of buttons. 85.3 repeating (or 85 and 1/3) multiplied by 3 is approximately 256, which is perfectly divisible by 64. If 4 stacks of buttons from 3 block is just too much, then they could still narrow it to 64 buttons from 1 block. Even as little as 16 buttons would still be more workable. Similarly, 3 planks/stone absolutely should make 4 stairs. Or at least 1:1, with 3 blocks for 3 stairs.
Perhaps it should be changed to 1 block = 64 buttons. Some material gets lost whilst trying to craft, but 64 is natural to mc, gives you plenty of buttons and would probably be the best compromise
The rest of the block to make the button actually goes into the block you place it on, Steve is able to make wood and stone give the ability to power redstone and open entire doors. It just takes an entire mechanical system within the block he puts it on, and the space it takes up is more than half the block you used so he can only use one block at a time for it.
From a rough estimate, 1 block is 16^3 cubic pixels, and a button is probably something like 60 cubic pixels. That would put it at 68 pixels and change, or just a stack if we wanted to round to a nice minecraft number.
I'm just gonna say the problem with this point of logic is that it does not recognize the potential of turning a bamboo block into planks being a loss filled system, after all, you are cutting up the bamboo into planks, not just transmuting the mass into a structure of equal weight! in this game theory, I will prove
to extend this, making pure wood and stone corroborate with redstone dust to form an electrical system is a complex result to garner from just one block of base material which you can only reduce, without being additive. Considering that the crafting table seems to be in part a reductive system of construction, turning products into base elements then combing those base elements into blocks, while losing when producing products smaller than one blocks size, we find that a Redstone producing system with one set of materials is a rather efficient use of material, certainly more effective than the puny lever, which requires a stick to produce power.
So, who's gonna tell him about the pressure plate?
New video coming up.
What about how many sticks make up a bamboo stair?
@@PhoenixSCif you make it one plank, wont you have to change the button recipe?
@@PhoenixSC The stairs are crazy because the regular stairs are 6/8 of a block but to a corner stairs adding another square, making it 7/8 . Where did the extra part of the block come from?
The blocks are hollow and are smushed to make buttons stairs and slabs ect
As you refine the bamboo more, there will be unavoidable material loss.
What about how many sticks make up a bamboo stair?
@@GreenDiver shut up and let us hace closure
Yeah, this is an argument someone who has never picked up a hacksaw their entire life would make.
"if you split a cake into 3 each piece is 0.333, so where is the 0.001?
you will find it on the knife."
(this is a joke, someone complained)
dude i made this one minute ago how's it already got liked twice?
@@mfaizsyahmitell me, how do you fuse 9 pieces of bamboo into a block with a fucking hacksaw?
Now we need to know why the wood button is slower...when the stone button is obviously the heaviest
I genuinely thought it was the other way around wtf
phoenix if you make a video about this put me in the screenshot
The purpose of a button obviously is for them to complete their task by sending a short period of Redstone before turning off. Knowing just this much can maybe answer as to why the Stone button is better at cycling...shorter cooldown. Other than that, I'm not sure.
@@Psynthexnah easy here’s the explanation
stone go brrrrrrrr
:)
Because you can skip stones. But can you skip wood?
🤯
Maybe because stone is stiffer than wood? If you push a stone, it will bend less, and it will spring back very quickly, but if you push wood, it will bend more and will take longer to spring back. Since the button clearly springs back of its own accord, and it's only made of wood or stone respectively, it mush have a spring made of wood or stone inside.
the button dilemma is easily explained by steve cramming the rest of the block into a miniature black hole within the button, which is used to power the button's infinite energy source
steve eats the rest of the button, because remember… STEVE. EATS. EVERYTHING.
@@legthieff my brain went the exact same direction 😭
Bruh I wanted to type this cuz I saw some video where it's possible to compress a duck into a black hole
you see how much people complain about the third door? can you imagine how much they would about am extra stack of buttons?
Fun fact here:
The button recipe used to be SOMEHOW WORSE in beta minecraft
Instead of crafting buttons with only one stone block, you would need 2 stone vertically to craft ONE
Not only that but the slabs also had a terrible recipe. You would need to use 3 planks to craft 3 slabs, it was pure madness
You have to grind away half of the whole block instead of cutting it back then
I came here to write this comment, but this channel is PhoenixSC, so someone of course was faster.
Did wooden buttons not exist bank then? After all, the same recipe with wood gives you sticks...
@@jonistan9268 yeah i said stone specifically because wooden didnt exist until 1.5 (i think)
@@ideac. To me, that seems really late. A wooden button seems like a rather basic item to me.
@@jonistan9268 Yup. Back in ye olden days there was no wooden button. People wanted a button that could be triggered by arrows and said "Hey, wooden pressure plates are triggered with items while stone ones are not, how about a wooden button?" And mojang said ok
All of the 85.33 are actually pebbles. 84.33 pebbles are compiled, converted into one piece of redstone, and then combined with the remaining pebble to create the same pebble but with redstone capability, also known as a button.
So with this logic, redstone is just a more compressed version of stone? Or maybe redstone is crushed and purified stone? The lore deepens...
But this doesn't hold up with wood. You cannot tell me that 84.33 wood chips condense into redstone.
Redstone is just a baby black hole.
My brain hurts
@@drumstick7430 You can find that in Education edition redstone is 31 carbon, 31 uranium, and 38 unknown element. So what is that element that was found in stone that was compressed to be able to make the unknown element.
My theory is that, as visually represented in the game, the bamboo planks are actually dry bamboo as opposed to the green one from the block of bamboo, so it has lost the mass from the water it contained, and also since bamboo is hollow, to make a plank you'd need to fill in the gaps.
But the bamboo planks are hollow too right?
The bamboo is stripped. You can strip it.
You don't make sticks from water though, do you?
@@ToonedMinecraft he means the moisture of water that the bamboo contained is removed after cutting it and thus Deducting the mass of it too. Just like if you're 60% water and if we....
You know now...
And then you get to trapdoors
Oh my god! When you said to pause and think how much buttons this is gonna be, i approximated 12 x 7 buttons in a block (where one slice is like 3x4, and there would be around 7 slices), which equals to 84, and the answer was 85.33 (4:13)
I'm so happy, i've never been so close when someone said to approximate something in a TH-cam video. Omg i'm gonna cry
I do woodworking with fresh-cut wood. Often for certain specific uses, you have to use a specific part of a tree. Maybe the average wood/stone block in Minecraft is good enough for building material, but is too knotty/has too many micro-fractures to be used in a button that needs to give a reliable output and stand up to a lot of wear (a club, for example, lasts longest when it's made from something heavy like apple wood, but specifically from the root ball of a sapling)
So out of one cubic meter of wood planks you can only find the material for one button?
@@samuels1123 you need to factor in that in minecraft, 1 m^3 lumber becomes 4 m^3 planks. unlike the real world, where depending on the wood, you lose alot of mass in the creation of planks. 1m^3 raw lumber becoming 4 buttons seems waistefull but i dont think it is that unrealistic.
(I am not a woodworker)
Emm Maybe the other buttons are used for the lid of the bottle
No cap@@云锋杨
Steve couldn’t be bothered to make 85.33 buttons so he just made one and ate the rest of the stone
Steve is a perfectionist who takes 84 tries before he makes the ideal button, then throws the rest into a cactus
I mean, if you make 82 Buttons in an instant, most of them are bound to fail, so...
No he eats eat🤓👆
I liked this explanation
I think Steve has ocd
You make a bed with 6 blocks, but when you place it, it is two half blocks side by side.
I have always thought that the button recipe should yield 4 instead of one, just like how the stick recipe does, at least it would make more sense
That's fair, after all, the stick recipe doesn't make sense from a volume perspective, either, but as a game mechanic it's not so bad. But only getting one button from an entire block is kinda strange from either perspective.
No, 8
who needs 4 buttons
@@mehmetaksoy4536 me
@@mehmetaksoy4536a set of double doors
Log1=0 is the funniest thing i’ve seen today
i dont get it
@@Nicole-cz1me 1 log is, at that moment, 0 planks.
@@Nicole-cz1me The common logarithm of 1 is 0
@zfrank4095 no lmao , he's talking about log ( 1 ) = 0
@@thealtaccount3955all logarithms of 1 are 0 actually , because all exponents of 0 are one
Wooden planks can smelt 1.5 items
Wooden buttons can smelt 0.5 items
If volumetric accuracy for the crafting was a thing, a single plank should be able to smelt 42.6 items if you craft it into buttons first.
then the smelting would be made accurate too
A button, being 85,33333... of a block would smelt 0,017578125 items
@@Liggliluff you used a comma instead of a decimal so that's alot of items i can smelt with one button
@@shadidmosharraf5103 americans when they meet a european
@@shadidmosharraf5103americans when literally anywhere else in the world
For some reason, wooden slabs still smelt 1,5 items, instead of 0,75. Illogical usefulness
The crafting table has a particle accelerator to strip particles of wood and craft it into Redstone by re-arranging the protons and neutrons.
Pretty sure Steve’s muscles are so strong that he can just crush the block into a compact size and manually move the particles, since A: This guy can sprint as fast as a professional athlete while carrying 63,936 blocks of solid gold, and B: He can make buttons without the help of a crafting table.
Steve just use hand 🖐️ 🧌
@@HistoryUnwound Steve the ultrachad
The flash
I actually really like the button crafting recipe. Sometimes you just need _one_ button. And for those moments, That odd number of planks you have from crafting that boat ages ago? Now perfectly even, AND you have he button you need, AND it doesn’t take up any inventory space.
but sometimes you need *10 stacks* for a mega farm
ratio
I agree with you. It's nice that it doesn't give something extra to take up inventory space
@@snowisaqtbro got his ratio from wish
I think a sensible recipe would be something like 1 stone / wood and 1 iron nugget for 8-16 buttons.
@@Chicky_Lumps2-4 would be better
I think that
1) they should add a “woodcutter” just like the stonecutter
2) when on the crafting table, it would give the same amount like now because Steve has to chisel the stone/wood and lose some of it (does not apply to stairs, both should be 6), like while on the crafting table one plank/stone is one button, on the cutter it would be a stack or smth
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To be fair, in real life mining and manufacture, you are gonna end up with some unusable waste materials, especially if what you are working with is pretty complicated. Examples include, slag, sawdust, stone aggregate, and other bits of scrap, so I could understand losing some materials in the crafting process. In the case of a button, there would be some internal mechanisms that Steve would have to create, which I'm sure would lead to some material lose, but that being said, I do agree that one teeny tiny push button for a whole meter by meter block is a little silly.
I guess even getting 4 or 8 buttons from one block is fairer than one. At least we don't have to craft them with redstone
Okay but explain how 6 wood blocks can make 3 doors but only 2 trapdoors
You get 4 buttons for a meter block. Logs make 4 planks, which implies logs are at least 3/4 filled with air or glue or asbestos or whatever. And that’s only if no material is lost in the process, turned to sawdust or unusable scrap.
@@VoidplayLP I don't wanna
Fun Fact: 1 Bamboo is one second of smelting (In a furnace) But a stick is 2.5. So, if you just use two bamboo (2 seconds smelting) to make a stick (2.5) you get more usage.
4 Bamboo smelt 1 Item, 2 Sticks smelt 1 Item
@@geckoanims hush child be at peace now ill keep you safe just fall asleep in my arms
@@geckoanims Actually, it's 7 seconds to smelt one item, so it would take 3 sticks and 7 bamboo. Also, I'm talking about in Bedrock (My MC launcher isn't working so I've had to play on it) so there might be a difference. I timed it on my world a while ago.
From the Minecraft Wiki: "Bamboo can be used as fuel for smelting. Each bamboo item smelts 0.25 items. Crafting two bamboo into a stick and using that as fuel is equivalent, smelting 0.5 items."
The only way you benefit is if you craft bamboo into ladders.
That's called efficiency
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I felt like I was back at school watching this, difference is I was actually paying attention. 😂
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1:57 my god, that comment deserves thousands more upvotes.
I’ve never minded that material is seemingly lost as that’s what would happen in real life especially for precise/ complex things like buttons and pressure plates
Very logical and reasopnable. The only way this could be avoided is if the game add tons of "waste bits" items, say a "sawdust" item, or "useless oddly shaped plank" item, etc., but then the game would have to add actual USES for all that stuff othwerwise it's just items cluttering your inventory for no good reason. Better to just ignore it like you do.
Stairs don’t make sense at all though. 4 planks should make 4 stairs.
It's still way too much waste. If you have a 1mx1mx1m block and you are so wasteful that you only get one button out of it, you're doing something wrong. The waste makes sense in some cases, but a block should at least give you 16 buttons.
There is a middle ground that allows for material loss without making a single tiny button from a cubic meter of material.
It is weird how expensive buttons are but as someone who just built a creeper farm buttons cost nothing and trapdoors are ludicrously expensive
In the crafting grid, the button item is twice as thick, being 4x4x6, with the in game logic being maybe the other half is in the block, which would half the number to atleast below a stack
I think that the bamboo loss in turning bamboo to planks and then sticks is justifiable, because it allows you to carry potentially 4x more sticks in your inventory than normal bamboo (when crafting directly from bamboo planks to sticks).
I always thought Steve would do something similar to a caveman and break the stone countless times until he got a minimally smooth piece.
Here's my interpretation: The bamboo -> stick recipe is basically tying bamboo pieces end-to-end, and the stick retains its strength. Bamboo blocks -> planks splits and unrolls the bamboo segments into thinner, weaker pieces, so in order to create sticks of the same durability, the split pieces must be layered parallel to each other and bound, possibly using fibers from the bamboo itself.
Right. Creating a bamboo bundle is all about 8 bamboo being bound by 1 bamboo. That's lost when you break it all back apart.
The block is 16x16x16 pixels
The button is 2x4x6 pixels
By the laws of physics and volume, you should be able to obtain 96 buttons.
It does also raise the fun question of what principle allows non redstone redstone components(buttons, plates, levers, etc) generate a signal.
Friction, miniscule traces of gaseous redstone present in the atmosphere
*He doesn't need a crafting table, the crafting table needs him*
First
@@schylermanSecond
Indubitably third
Physically 4th
Fortunately 5th
1:52 for the people that didnt understand and arent math bois, log in this case stands for the math operation "logarithm", and if you put it in a calculator, log(1) = 0
Im not gonna explain what a logarithm is though 🤓🤓🤓
2:00 clearly this person doesn't know 😂
For the people that are curious as to what a logarithm is, it's the inverse function of an exponential function, so where 2³ = 8, log₂(8) = 3 because two to the power of three is eight
@@laurensholthof cool
Nuh uh 🤓☝️
@@laurensholthofthat’s so helpful to know
1:23 the problem is, 1 bamboo makes 0.5 stick, and you can't have that number of sticks in your inventory, because you'd have to recode entire game to do that. So, devs had to solutions:1 - to give you bigger amount of sticks when you craft them using bamboo blocks compering with other crafts, witch probably would destroy any value that sticks had (you basically making sticks out of nowhere) or, 2- give people only 4 sticks, if they for some reason need to take extra steps to make 4 sticks
That’s why he said crafting doesn’t work in decimal
Fun fact: even if the stone block was hollow, you would still get 28 1/6 buttons, assuming a thickness of one pixel.
No you would get zero bc buttons are 2 pixels tall, unless you have some way of joining stone together
@@louismaciver8262 steve can weld and bend metal with his bare hands so
@@louismaciver8262 but then you couldn't craft anything
coal block, iron block, diamond block, gold block, emerald block, armor, glass bottle, fishing rod, redstone lamp, whatever copper can make, whatever process is used to make stairs, etc
1:30 In carpentry it’s referred to as off-cuts, in the process of turning the bamboo into planks, 1 bamboo worth of off-cuttings was produced
2 trapdoors are the same thickness as a slab which is 1/2 of a block.
6 full blocks make 2 trapdoors.
6 full blocks become 0.5 blocks
there are holes in the trapdoor
@@Wyrmverhere's material loss in the dark oak trapdoor and the spruce trapdoor
@@Wyrmverthat doesn't help, now that's even less value
Actually, trapdoors are 3 pixels tall, so 2 trapdoors would be 3/4 of a slab or 3/8 of a block ☝🤓
a trapdoor is 3/16 of a block
2 trapdoors is 6/16 of a block
1 slab is 1/2=8/16 of a block
so you're undercounting the amount of scammedness
In my personal datapack mod, I have it so the crafting recipe for stairs gives 6 instead of 4. While 8 would increase parity with how much space the stair occupies, three complications:
1. The amount of volume a stair occupies changes with connections to other stairs, making it an inconsistent measurement method.
2. I don't think there's any way to alter the number of stairs outputted by stonecutter recipes, so I opted for parity with stairs-via-stonecutter instead.
3. Unless you're using it for something decorative like a house roof, under normal circumstances you'll likely use stairs at a 1:1 ratio with the blocks you're sparing yourself the hassle of jumping over, so getting as many stairs as there are blocks in the recipe is a reasonable conversion to settle for.
Given your musings however, I agree that buttons should be more efficient given their simplicity, and I might even add that to my datapack mod now that I've seen this. That said, I think I'd lean towards 8, 12, or 16 buttons for balance purposes, going full realism and turning a single block into well over a stack of buttons might be a tad excessive.
id be pissed if a spent a single bock and filled my inventory passed capacity
4:03 its just that steve gets hungry and eats 71
even with the stone one
@@Newpant even with the iron one
Even with the diamond one @@slm102112
I'm more suprised that Phoenix can write so well in a computer. You know how hard writing with a mouse is?
maybe he used a trackpad
@@cKoruss that's even worse. I have never known anyone who could actually use a trackpad with any level of proficiency outside of getting frustrated when the trackpad suddenly decides to stop registering their movement for no reason.
Trackpad sounds good in theory but I have never used a trackpad that works reliably in my life, ever
@@AceFuzzLord used to draw little fandom images on a simple corner extension for drawing (was bored in class) on chromebooks
(They *actually* look decent, im not that bad at drawing or doodling)
@@AceFuzzLord I have transcended beyond your comprehension
A block's texture has 16 pixels.
wooden plank = 4096px³ (16³)
wooden button = 48px³ (2*4*6)
48/4096 = 0.01171875
in conclusion,
99% of it fades into nothing. or exactly 98.828125%
Also, 4096px³ = 1m³, because 1 block = 1 meter.
Meaning, from a meter cubed of wood, is.. 0.01171875m³ ((2/16)*(4/16)*(6/16))? Wait what? Well, this is because 1 block = 1 meter, so 4096px³=1m³. So it is the exact same.
Now, how many buttons should we really get? 1/0.01171875 = 85.̅3̅3̅ (this is because 0.01171875 is how much 1 button is compared to 1 wooden block)
I did the math. You're welcome. (I have not seen Phoenix's answer during the making of this comment)
its crazy how phenoix is still surprising us with random dumb minecraft content that makes our days better
Phenoix, Phe-noix, rhymes with noir
How am I still coming across more spellings of this, I thought there was a limited number of ways to misspell phoenix but it never seems to end
Better than most Minecraft TH-camrs in my opinion
Can we appreciate how much PeenixSC puts into us 🥰🥰🥰
-khan- PENIX ACADEMY
Idea to fix the bamboo block: replace the center piece with a piece of string to hold them all together, making all the calculations work too.
no
@@mrcatfacecatit'd work though
@@ericgolightly8450 where did the string go then?
It will stay in the crafting like bucket in crafting cake.
@@Liggliluff part of the stick
Trapdoors and doors are insane too. In recipe of trapdoors you get 2 trapdoors with hight of 0.1875 from 6 blocks. You are missing 5.625 blocks. You are missing 93.75 percent of wood
At least in door
You get 3 doors
But I'm agree about trapdoors (why it only get 2 ?
Trapdoors aren't worse than pressure plates, though.
@@rizkidary837 door is insane too. Less insane than trapdoor but from 2 wooden planks you should get at least 3, yet you have to waste 3 more planks for nothing
@@cemstrumental I didn't say they were worse, they are just bad too
@@darkduckpl9620 Ik. Thought, I'd just add that.
The insane amount of energy steve uses to compress blocks into buttons is probably what gives them their redstone abilities
They should make it so you can get more buttons with the stonecutter because you have precision cutting meaning more buttons
2:48 "I know, Command Blocks. So old, right?"
W-wait, what did I miss? 😨
Datapacks? Functions?
Steve has to filter tiny pieces of redstone dust from the stone to allow the button to function. Because there is so little redstone in a singular stone block, Steve can only make one button. This also applies to wood as they absorb tiny pieces of redstone dust through their trunks.
i cant believe it, minecraft has been polluted by microredstone from the years of unchecked redstone engineering
the industrial redstonelution and its consequences
@DWal32 Yes, we must limit our use of our redstone powered flying machines and other doodads that are rasing redstone levels in our ground and atmosphere our minecraft worlds before it is too late.
@@DWal32 aways keep a button on you to check for redstone traces on your food
Minecraft trees also accumulate redstone in their leaves. This is how leafstone technology works.
The minecraft bourgeoisie stole steves surplus labour value for company profits
Well, if push of a button gives you as much redstone energy as block of redstone, maybe 71 missing buttons are used for containing a power of redstone block within one small button
Considering that we get 4 planks out of a log, I assume that the planks are either empty inside or somehow not as dense as the log. And the log might be secretly hollow as well. The button, on the other hand, is entirely wooden, with no air in between the wood. This means that we have to compress the wood to make the button, which is not really hard if we assume that all wood that planks contain is present in a thin layer on the surface of the block.
Now, what about the stone? It definitely isn’t hollow
Bro to compress that small, the wood planks would have to be thin as a popsicle stick in block form. Imagine climbing on to that and it just shattering into a million splinters up your glutes. 😂
@@Chicky_Lumps if blocks could shatter under your weight, then you wouldn't be able to stand on glass panes. And you can also stand on a composter, even though its border is not really thick.
Turtle eggs are the only exception, but they're weird on their own.
You guy are really debating on logic of a.... Lemme check again... Game
@@brunojambeiro6776 well, it does float on water...
Imagine how horrible it would be to craft a stack of planks into buttons on accident if it were like this...
I'm imagining thousands of button item particles violently erupting from Steve due to a misclick, knocking him back at single digit framerates.
Tree farm+ auto crafter at max efficiency+this recipe=no more game
This is why i just collect bamboo and make sticks saving both wood and bamboo
1:10 well, this makes sense actually. after more processing it would cost more total raw materials, as throughout the process of processing it you would be chopping some off (therefore losing some)
3:35 Yes, Majong, what a nice logo. 👍
Mahjong 2
I downloaded Minecraft 2
I can't open my pc
1:17 really pulling out the equivalent sign huh
When you craft something into so many things remnants of it will eventually be lost, so it does make sense.
We have a stonecutter. It is time for a woodcutter. Particularly to fix the stairs issues (or they could just...change the yield to either 6 or 8 stairs...)
I guessed 36 buttons, multiplying 9 by the (vertically) visible number of boards in a plank to be generous. But at least my seriously underestimated number makes some kind of logic given the aesthetics of the wood, and the fact that sawing wood always generates a certain amount of waste.
I actually found something out about the bamboo recently. I’m unsure if anybody else knows but bamboo has a set placement. Doesn’t matter how many times you remove and replant it will stay in that corner and where you’re facing doesn’t change it. BUT there is a challenge with this though. I’m yet to find a block which the bamboo aligns perfectly in the center 😂
same thing with lily pads
yup, many things are based on block-position randomness, including texture rotations and most plants
1:43 Real Solution: The planking step requires the 9 bamboo to snap and be destroyed as part of the imprecision of it.
The button is actually heavily compressed. When you click it to activate redstone, the button is releasing energy from being compressed.
That math joke was absolutely amazing
ye
100% believe Steve is compressing the block to give it the redstone qualities it has
Bamboo logs are actually useful. Everyone now has a bamboo farm and combining the bamboo saves you a lot of time and space.
Log1 =0 actually 🤓☝
@@IHasArmsLog2 = ?, smart guy
@@Halo_Legend roughly 0.3
@@Halo_Legend Log 2 = 0.3010 (4 d.p.)
Phoenix's laugh when the log1 joke took him off guard was super cute
Omg I know right
yeah 😅
4:01 idk why that ‘block of block’ killed me lmao
Stairs should give you 6 because it’s not like you have magic glue that can stick the sawed off parts together to make more stairs
The stone cutter also does 1:1 for stairs too
Yeah, sticking two things together with seemingly no binder in Minecraft?
What a SILLY idea!
Imagine if they predicated the entire game on that
The button is the wood/stone compressed, so it is basically a blackhole and thats how it generates redstone signal.
4:26 nah steve ate the buttons💀
steve ate 71 buttons 💀
@@trphoenix_.Steve compresses the leftover materials and makes a black hole out of them,that works as a redstone signal.
Actually pandas sitting on top of the in-game economics. They do not make a cut on makeshift items you can craft on fly. But they will make 1/9 cut for general use of crafting table for bamboo.
My least favorite recipe is the hanging sign.
Not only does it require stripped logs, yet still appears to be made of planks, it also requires 1 2/9 of an Iron Ingot. And the Wood-to-sign ratio is actually half that of regular signs. Why mojang. Why.
it does not look like planks, but yeah
@@sethsmith2608yes it does man
@@CerealIs2Gud it literally has the exact same texture as stripped logs. The only one that looks like planks is the bamboo one because the stripped bamboo block has the exact same texture as the plank
@@sethsmith2608 u saying that the hanging bamboo sign looks like the stripped variant? Bc it sure as hell does not
It looks like planks
The first part is kinda good fun, but this kinda math regularly allows me to make infinite generators in some modpacks because they overlook certain recipes (or ones added by other mods).
I already figured out this stuff in my own survival world, but I didn’t think anything else of it aside from “guess that’s how I’ll craft my sticks”
block pixels = 16 x 16 x 16 = 4096 and button pixels = 6 x 4 x 2 = 48 sooo 4096 divided by 48 = 85.333333 buttons
3:52
It’s 8 x 3 x 3 so 72 buttons
Edit: I didn’t realize you did the math
1:27 glad im not the only person who noticed this
Someone should make a “matter conservation” mod where the stairs recipe gives you 8 stairs and changes the button’s size to 8x4x2 pixels so the crafting recipe can give you a stack per block (since it would be weird to give a player more than one stack of an item in a single recipe).
data packs and addons can do this. Look at Vanilla Tweaks if you want more stairs.
Even better would just be to change the stair recipe to just 3 blocks in an L shape in my opinion.
@@Shako_Lamb I agree. 3 blocks for 4 stairs is good
They can keep the old recipe, since it's exactly twice the number of blocks, and it would give 8 stairs, for people who are used to it.
The most tragic crafting recipe is the banner, I should know, I build castles all the time and decorate with them
6 wool blocks = 1 thin layered banner
With how strong Steve is I am not surprised if he does compress it to a single button
in conclusion, Steve just loves eating the crafting recipes and that's why they disappear all the time
Actually,i have a theory about the bamboo case:the 9th bamboo from the bamboo block probably got bamboo-zled
In my option, from 1 block you should get 1 stair and a lot of buttons so when you are building roof you get full inventory of termites
Plus you should get a lava bucket togetrid ofthe buttons and a netherite sword to kill mobs cuzwhrn u was doing all this, it became night.
PoonoxSC cracking up over the bad math joke was exactly what I needed in my life
2:26 Stairs should yield 6.857 (not 8) since stairs can be 7/8 of a block.
2:21 Bro switched Antoine Lavoisier's law with the energy one.
Revisiting this.
If we wanna be perfectly mathematical for the buttons, then 3 planks/stone will make a satisfying, perfect 4 stacks of buttons.
85.3 repeating (or 85 and 1/3) multiplied by 3 is approximately 256, which is perfectly divisible by 64.
If 4 stacks of buttons from 3 block is just too much, then they could still narrow it to 64 buttons from 1 block. Even as little as 16 buttons would still be more workable.
Similarly, 3 planks/stone absolutely should make 4 stairs. Or at least 1:1, with 3 blocks for 3 stairs.
Now I want a data pack that changes recipes to their accurate versions.
0:14 *bamboat*
*Tu dun tss*
Guys it’s the new block the “block of block” 4:01
“Block of block” got me. NO SERIOUSLY IM RUNNING HELP
Perhaps it should be changed to 1 block = 64 buttons. Some material gets lost whilst trying to craft, but 64 is natural to mc, gives you plenty of buttons and would probably be the best compromise
practically speaking 6 planks to get 2 trapdoors is way more infuriating then buttons or pressure plates imo
4:45 I'm rather disappointed that you didn't do that with dark oak buttons. Now that would've definitely looked like poo. 💩
For the button Steve just compresses it so much that tiny Redstone particles are able to activate giving it its Redstone ability.
1:30 IS THAT NIKO ONESHOT
0:56 Bro went full Khan Academy on us
I was looking for this in the comments 😂
The rest of the block to make the button actually goes into the block you place it on, Steve is able to make wood and stone give the ability to power redstone and open entire doors. It just takes an entire mechanical system within the block he puts it on, and the space it takes up is more than half the block you used so he can only use one block at a time for it.
From a rough estimate, 1 block is 16^3 cubic pixels, and a button is probably something like 60 cubic pixels. That would put it at 68 pixels and change, or just a stack if we wanted to round to a nice minecraft number.
me knowing that it equals 85.333333, phoenix SC be like: how do u know. me: thumbnail
I'm just gonna say the problem with this point of logic is that it does not recognize the potential of turning a bamboo block into planks being a loss filled system, after all, you are cutting up the bamboo into planks, not just transmuting the mass into a structure of equal weight! in this game theory, I will prove
to extend this, making pure wood and stone corroborate with redstone dust to form an electrical system is a complex result to garner from just one block of base material which you can only reduce, without being additive. Considering that the crafting table seems to be in part a reductive system of construction, turning products into base elements then combing those base elements into blocks, while losing when producing products smaller than one blocks size, we find that a Redstone producing system with one set of materials is a rather efficient use of material, certainly more effective than the puny lever, which requires a stick to produce power.
00:01 almost realistic bamboo