Thank you for putting in all the time and effort to do this testing. Definitely makes it easier on us non-scientific folks 😁 What brand/ type of gelatin do you recommend?
I'm no master chemist, believe me, but having an interest in these things certainly helps. I use a bulk pork gelatin powder from a local chain called "Bulk Barn". I'm not sure if it exists in the US, but I'm sure you've got twenty others if it doesn't. It's 100% pure gelatin and very cheap.
@@TATVCanada how much does 3 liters of gelatin weigh or did you measure it in a one liter container and which hydrogen peroxide did you use the low percentage or the high you probably said it ill watch it again.... this is Awesome can't wait to make some gel!!!!
now this is a very cool video and what amazing accuracy you got from the results i have seen gel with 5% error but never 1% this has saved me so much work and testing i cant begin to thank you for doing this recording editing and posting this
lol... It's funny, normally I keep it in the fridge so when it starts to go, it's just a couple little white spots. I had this stuff stacked in the basement and one day when I was cleaning I thought to myself "I wonder how it's doing" took a look and thought "Oh dear god, time to make a video and toss this one out!"
@@TATVCanada I don't knowif or when I will ever get around to using this information , but I am glad that it exists. I figured the same is true for a lot of the tutorials I make
Watched this this morning, awesome! Went to lowes to get some liquid Algacide. Active ingredients: Hydrogen Peroxide = 5.34% and Peroxyacetic Acid = 1.36% I wonder what would happen if you used this? You can buy it at Lowe's.
If I am understanding correctly the samples varied by increasing the amount of hydrogen peroxide without decreasing the amount of water? Or did the H2O2 replace some of the water? It would stand to reason that add you increased the H2O2 w/o decreasing the water the gel would lose its 'stiffness'. Wondering if you replaced water with H2O2 if the resulting gel would be shelf stable for longer. Additionally the resulting gel could be melted and resolidfied to lose the bubbles.
Thank you so much for this video man. Im making a biomedical project thats gonna mimic the neck and I appreciate your videos so much. I understand the gel with hydrogen peroxide had almost no change after 3 weeks at room temp. It would probably last a lot longer when cooled but is there any information you have or personal experience on how long it would last refridgerated or frozen?
No problem and good luck with your project. The Hydrogen peroxide helps more with clarity than preservation. If you're looking for the longest possible shelf life I'd use the proprionic acid. It smells kind of vinegar-y, but I had a block of gel last roughly a year at room temp in the garage without spoiling. I did try freezing it as well, the only thing I'll caution you with that is it will start to dry out after a while, particularly if there's a lot of open air space around it. I'd wrap it in saran wrap first if it's going to spend any serious time in the freezer.
@@TATVCanada Btw at 3:05 to 3:30 of your video, the part with 3 different samples. Do both of the samples besides the control sample have proprionic acid in them? Basically the one at 3:30 is just H2O2 or H2O2 + proprionic acid?
@@magnet9585 Apologies for the delayed reply; TH-cam usually doesn't notify me of replies, just original posts. In answer to your question, the first had nothing, the second had proprionic acid, and the third had hydrogen peroxide only (no proprionic acid).
How long can the gel be out in the sun for outdoor ranges? With these additives mention make it more heat resistant. Thanks for the help man this if awesome. I’m in South African climate so it can get quite hot.
Tetra Acetyl Ethylene Diamine (TAED) might be an effective bleaching agent, it is used in non-bleach detergents. Additionally, TAED and hydrogen peroxide will form peroxyacetic acid - peroxyacetic acid is a more efficient bleaching agent and also has bactericidal, virucidal and fungicidal properties and might alleviate the necessity of proprionic acid. If you can get peroxyacetic acid, this might be all you need.
Thanks for this video, everything is beautifully explained systematically 😍. Could you please tell me the maximum preservation time of the final product at room temperature? How far beyond three monts could it go?
So does this ballistic gel have the ability to remelt into a mold? The stuff online you chop up and put in a mold in the oven on low temp for several hours.
If you are looking for cheap preservatives, you might try salt or vinegar. Sugar also has been used for preservation of food, though I'm not sure this would be a good application for it.
You can download an app that allows you to point your camera at anything and it will tell you the exact shade and color as picked up by your camera. It's a cheap easy way to tell easily which ones are lighter and by how many shades
out of curiosity, how does one dispose of used ballistic gelatin? i can imagine the non bleached ones can be left to be reclaimed by nature, but once hydrogen peroxide is added, its poison for insects... is it just tossed in the trash? nonetheless, thanks for these three great videos on how to make ballistic gel!
I'm sorry your going too have too excuse my ignorance. But could you give measurment in kg or gram I don't know how too convert 3l of power gelatin too x amount. Now the liquid measurements are fine. If you would be so kind thank you very much and your recipe is one I really want too use.
Probably to some extent. At the end of the day as consumers we're always going to be limited by the equipment and materials available to your average citizen, but it's also worth remembering we're not necessarily trying to perfectly recreate what's done in professional labs.
@@TATVCanada thanks! very interesting and helpful. The reason is Im making a doll real size and want to use some gel inside the bra to simulate a silicone breast
I wanted to add that hydrogen peroxide has a short effective shelf life. You might try citric acid which is a reliable preservative and easy to buy bulk.
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@@TATVCanada different youtube channel, not an insult. Great video btw, gonna have to make some Ballistic Gel to fill the time and for whenever the ranges open back up.
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Thank you for putting in all the time and effort to do this testing. Definitely makes it easier on us non-scientific folks 😁 What brand/ type of gelatin do you recommend?
I'm no master chemist, believe me, but having an interest in these things certainly helps. I use a bulk pork gelatin powder from a local chain called "Bulk Barn". I'm not sure if it exists in the US, but I'm sure you've got twenty others if it doesn't. It's 100% pure gelatin and very cheap.
@@TATVCanada how much does 3 liters of gelatin weigh or did you measure it in a one liter container and which hydrogen peroxide did you use the low percentage or the high you probably said it ill watch it again.... this is Awesome can't wait to make some gel!!!!
now this is a very cool video and what amazing accuracy you got from the results i have seen gel with 5% error but never 1%
this has saved me so much work and testing i cant begin to thank you for doing this recording editing and posting this
Glad to hear you found it useful.
This is a great series of videos. Going to start making my own gel to test pellets
Glad to hear you found them interesting.
This is awesome! Keep it up. Loved that you kept the moldy stuff for all 3 weeks ha ha!
lol... It's funny, normally I keep it in the fridge so when it starts to go, it's just a couple little white spots. I had this stuff stacked in the basement and one day when I was cleaning I thought to myself "I wonder how it's doing" took a look and thought "Oh dear god, time to make a video and toss this one out!"
@@TATVCanada lol are you married? My wife would have none of that! Ha ha! Great tests though.
Nope! She has her own place, and I have mine. It's a system that I find contributes greatly to the harmony of our relationship :)
You're really adding to the public knowledge base . Thank you sir
Nobody knows it all; we all share what we've got and everyone benefits. Glad you're finding it useful.
@@TATVCanada I don't knowif or when I will ever get around to using this information , but I am glad that it exists. I figured the same is true for a lot of the tutorials I make
You're not wrong!
Watched this this morning, awesome! Went to lowes to get some liquid Algacide. Active ingredients: Hydrogen Peroxide = 5.34% and Peroxyacetic Acid = 1.36% I wonder what would happen if you used this? You can buy it at Lowe's.
Probably pretty similar.
Cool video and very informative!
Thank you!
You're the man. I'll definitely be making a batch soon, thanks for the testing.
Happy to help.
If I am understanding correctly the samples varied by increasing the amount of hydrogen peroxide without decreasing the amount of water? Or did the H2O2 replace some of the water? It would stand to reason that add you increased the H2O2 w/o decreasing the water the gel would lose its 'stiffness'. Wondering if you replaced water with H2O2 if the resulting gel would be shelf stable for longer. Additionally the resulting gel could be melted and resolidfied to lose the bubbles.
Thank you so much for this video man. Im making a biomedical project thats gonna mimic the neck and I appreciate your videos so much.
I understand the gel with hydrogen peroxide had almost no change after 3 weeks at room temp. It would probably last a lot longer when cooled but is there any information you have or personal experience on how long it would last refridgerated or frozen?
No problem and good luck with your project. The Hydrogen peroxide helps more with clarity than preservation. If you're looking for the longest possible shelf life I'd use the proprionic acid. It smells kind of vinegar-y, but I had a block of gel last roughly a year at room temp in the garage without spoiling.
I did try freezing it as well, the only thing I'll caution you with that is it will start to dry out after a while, particularly if there's a lot of open air space around it. I'd wrap it in saran wrap first if it's going to spend any serious time in the freezer.
@@TATVCanada Btw at 3:05 to 3:30 of your video, the part with 3 different samples. Do both of the samples besides the control sample have proprionic acid in them?
Basically the one at 3:30 is just H2O2 or H2O2 + proprionic acid?
@@magnet9585 Apologies for the delayed reply; TH-cam usually doesn't notify me of replies, just original posts. In answer to your question, the first had nothing, the second had proprionic acid, and the third had hydrogen peroxide only (no proprionic acid).
@@TATVCanada Thank you so much!
How long can the gel be out in the sun for outdoor ranges? With these additives mention make it more heat resistant. Thanks for the help man this if awesome. I’m in South African climate so it can get quite hot.
I couldn't begin to guess in your climate, but at about 20C you've got maybe 20-30 minutes.
TATV Canada do you know of something to help it withstand heat?
TATV Canada another question, say you want to store your blocks, where and how would you recommend? With the additives does the gel dry out?
@@TATVCanada are you able to remelt and re-mould the used gel
Great Video! Definitely going to give some of these additives a try
Go for it!
I am going to try this recipe and see how it fairs against handgun calibers. Thank you!
Glad you found it helpful.
Simply outstanding!👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks.
Tetra Acetyl Ethylene Diamine (TAED) might be an effective bleaching agent, it is used in non-bleach detergents. Additionally, TAED and hydrogen peroxide will form peroxyacetic acid - peroxyacetic acid is a more efficient bleaching agent and also has bactericidal, virucidal and fungicidal properties and might alleviate the necessity of proprionic acid. If you can get peroxyacetic acid, this might be all you need.
I'm having trouble finding it, it might be pretty expensive or controlled
Innnnnnnnnteresting... I'm going to have to look into that. Thanks for the tip.
@@TATVCanada nilered or nurdrage would be the people to ask if you need to track them down (nilered lives in canada too)
Thanks, I'll be sure and check that out. I have a really good chemical supplier locally who may be able to help as well.
Thanks for this video, everything is beautifully explained systematically 😍. Could you please tell me the maximum preservation time of the final product at room temperature? How far beyond three monts could it go?
I literally have the original two blocks I cast in my garage right now, and they are still perfectly preserved.
So does this ballistic gel have the ability to remelt into a mold? The stuff online you chop up and put in a mold in the oven on low temp for several hours.
Yes you can remelt it.
If you are looking for cheap preservatives, you might try salt or vinegar. Sugar also has been used for preservation of food, though I'm not sure this would be a good application for it.
I'd probably end up eating it if it was sugar :)
underrated video man, THANK YOU
My pleasure.
Could you do a video on good bone sources/ substitutes? For testing hunting/defensive loads?
I might try it some day, but right now I've got a lot of other content that's higher priority to me.
Thank you, for the high quality content. Really enjoyable and easy to follow
Thank you sir.
Interesting! How long were you able to keep these block for with the upgraded recipe?
They're sitting in my garage right now, and look exactly the same.
Brilliant content. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much. Exactly what I searched for
Wow,,great job 👍👍🤓
Thanks, Timmy.
Thank you for your work here!
My pleasure.
You are doing God's work sir o7.
You can download an app that allows you to point your camera at anything and it will tell you the exact shade and color as picked up by your camera. It's a cheap easy way to tell easily which ones are lighter and by how many shades
Cool; never seen that before.
Amazing work. Great job!
Thanks, mate.
out of curiosity, how does one dispose of used ballistic gelatin? i can imagine the non bleached ones can be left to be reclaimed by nature, but once hydrogen peroxide is added, its poison for insects... is it just tossed in the trash? nonetheless, thanks for these three great videos on how to make ballistic gel!
Hydrogen peroxide eventually breaks down on its own.
I'm sorry your going too have too excuse my ignorance. But could you give measurment in kg or gram I don't know how too convert 3l of power gelatin too x amount. Now the liquid measurements are fine. If you would be so kind thank you very much and your recipe is one I really want too use.
If you buy a large measuring cup you'll have everything you need in terms of metric measurements.
Would bloom strength / mesh of the type of gelatine used mess with the recipe?
Probably to some extent. At the end of the day as consumers we're always going to be limited by the equipment and materials available to your average citizen, but it's also worth remembering we're not necessarily trying to perfectly recreate what's done in professional labs.
So you reduced the 29% H2O2 down to 5% with water? Or you put 5% by volume of the 29% into the mixture? I’m a little confused, sorry.
Nope, you got it first try; reduced to 5%.
So 50ml of 29% H2O2 additive resulted in the clearest block? How much acid did you add?
Where do you get your bulk gel. I am finding it hard to buy it in bulk.
Bulk Barn.
so, 10 months to one year has passed and i repeat the question: have you still got the same blocks? if not, how long they endured?
Yes I still have them.
@@TATVCanada thanks! very interesting and helpful. The reason is Im making a doll real size and want to use some gel inside the bra to simulate a silicone breast
Try adding salt. Salt is a preservative.
It causes problems with the gelatin.
I wanted to add that hydrogen peroxide has a short effective shelf life. You might try citric acid which is a reliable preservative and easy to buy bulk.
Still on the original batch, no mould.
So how does it perform for ammo testing?
Identically to the conventional blocks you can purchase.
@@TATVCanada amazing
How do you reduce the 29% to 5%?
Mix with water.
Can i use it for boxing dummy
I guess maybe if you're training to fight a giant jello cube.
I will take a model maneken from t-shirt shop cut on top and make a body model(dummy) for boxing
what about glycerin as preservative
Interesting, i was thinking about Phenol
No clue, never tried either.
Mate, you should get a PhD just for this.
"Honorary" ha ha.
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This guy sounds like horror stories.
Thank you...?
@@TATVCanada different youtube channel, not an insult. Great video btw, gonna have to make some Ballistic Gel to fill the time and for whenever the ranges open back up.