@sacramentofoodforest yup, he said Jones should be thinking about going to 185 after Francis KO'd stipe. But a solid 90% of the UFC fanbase is casuals, and believe the narrative dana tells them
Every single post about PEDs or Jon Jones has comments about Jon's PED use. So no I wouldn't say it was forgotten or he was let off the hook! He served his suspension and has continued to test clean so he gets to fight again!
@ I think because he broke his leg people just used that as an excuse as to why he took them. Not saying it’s right. Silva is also likeable where as TJ wasn’t.
Snapping your leg in half is a legitimate reason to take PED’s. You definitely need to go through a lengthy testing process before you come back though. Or relax the rules in a way to make more things legal to take…I also agree Dana and the new owners are a huge problem, as well as crap scoring not calling fouls like cage grabs eye pokes and low blows. Than wonder why people don’t stop doing it…
@joakimpedersen1502 well geesh idk maybe by the fact that he was so ultra competitive he caused brain damage and permanently injured and ended the career of a teammate lol. And never showed remorse.
@joakimpedersen1502 kneeing his training partner to the back of the head after losing in training which is what forced him to retire, kneeing training partners to the body when they were just supposed to be boxing, and probably many more instances that team alpha have not told since they were reluctant to even tell these two. In general they said he has anger issues so he most likely was verbally abusive in the gym.
@@lukasbafer yeah tj was a bad sparring partner but that narrative that tj ruined his career is just not true at all chris and his coach at tam has stated many times that chris had taken taken a lot of damage due to to the training style of the team. he placed less of the blame on tj and more on the aggressive sparring style at the gym. tj didn’t "end" his career buddy
@ yeah at the time and then later on he came out and said it wasn't true Watch one of the documentaries about TJ disgraceful champion is what I think it's called
I always thought Dillashaw was the asshole in the story but now it just sounds like he went where he needed to go to get the training he needed, let Uriah know in advance, and Uriah got butthurt about it. I don’t think that’s only what ruined his reputation/legacy though. That was the PED use on top of the reputation from how the story was spun about him being disloyal
one of the most skilled fighters ever, could’ve even retired as one of the goats, but sadly had to ruin it by cheating. people go way to hard on him, but it’s okay when jones and anderson silva does it
@joakimpedersen1502 no because no one forced him to take a fight where he'd have to become anemic to make weight. Silvas was a devastating, freak accident.
TJ was literally one of my favorite fighters up until i found out he took PEDs. Still like him and respect his humility in the event of being caught but his success in the ring is all undermined by his PEDs use
@@HollisGale63 cody has no iq and doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. if you’re going down that path, then you can literally say that everyone was on something. he tested positive once, that’s it.
Kind of important to note that years after the initial claim, Holdsworth and a couple other guys from Team Alpha Male came out and said that the thing about TJ beating Holdsworth into retirement was untrue. Might wanna include all the facts rather than throwing around an unfounded statement from over a decade ago (saying this as a Dillishaw hater btw)
The fact that one of the sports best made such bad decisions proves it can literally happen to anyone. These decisions ended his career early..... So unfortunate and can ONLY be summed up by Tj's exact words.....he was a victim of his own "delusional optimism". Personally, I think TJ is one of the most talented fighters I've ever seen. I would have loved to see him healthy against Aljo.
Idk maybe i might just be some loser who never aspires to anything (even though i disagree im very proud of the things ive accomplished in life and continue to strive for better) but if someone told me that i could have all the fame and champion status, even sacrificing my character and morales i wouldnt do it. Theres a reason anyone who knows tj even a little bit doesnt really have anything good to say about him except "well hes a good fighter and a hard competitor"
I think it not only TJ who done it. I think his attitude was more of problem but if it is with PED mixed with it is easy to criticized when you don’t like him. PED was not only TJ problem or MMA problem but it is whole professional sports that if exposed some of the PED center you will see a full exposure similar to BALCO scandal. In BALCO case there is more than 4,000 athletes from all sport but media only exposed Barry Bones, Sugar Shane and Maria Jones.
When are these guys going to learn there is no such thing as a champion. There is always someone better or someone that has your number. The fight game is what it has always been , and that is about making money. Money has ruined every sport there is. And it is all just a facades anyway.
Delusional Self Confidence. The guy’s personality made him insufferable but I give TJ credit for recognizing that *and* also admitting it. But there’s plenty of athletes that have/had delusional confidence that weren’t fkn assholes like TJ. But I have a feeling TJ evolve as he matures…unlike Dom who will be an insufferable asshole well into old age because he’s an antagonistic asshole at his core while TJ is just too competitive with poor self control.
He admitted that specific hit started a chain reaction of concussions after that, a few more details he could have added on that part. But It’s on Ariel’s interview
I'm waiting for Jon "Bones Dudes" Jones and Dana "White Lies" White to LEAVE the UFC..!!! Please go away. Guys. Go. Seriously, gooooo !!!! TF.? Seriously gooooooooo😮
Say you all what you will, without TJ I dont know I would be such a huge fan of MMA and learning/participating myself. TJ vs Barao 1 and 2 were the fights that dragged me into it, and regardless of anything else, i am forever grateful and admire TJ. He wasn't on anything when he fought Barao, and even though it is far before most of you begun watching, just go and watch it and you will understand. Just listen to what Rogan said about that fight - that is what I felt. It was EPIC. It gave me a feeling I have never felt watching any other sport, not even close. I saw it live and now this is forever my sport. That means a lot to me, so I forever have TJs back. Most don't understand the cost of being a high level competitor. Show some respect for those who have sacrificed everything to be one. Even if they F*ed up along the way. Have you all never made terrible mistakes? All those secrets you have, the ones you pretend not to have since you have hidden them? You think theres anyone alive who doesn't have these? If you were a public figure they would be public as well, so be glad Ur not important enough. But shut up online judging others about things you dont even understand just because their lives are public and your's isn't important enough to be. None of us are saints. Not saying it was right that TJ took PEDs, just that yall have no business acting all righteous here when your own lives most likely look 10x worse. Just nobody cares to examine your lives publicly so you get to run ur mouths online instead as if you all do everything right. Get real. Nobody even wants to know how many skeletons you all have in your closets. Isn't that way more sad? At least TJ came home with belts and $$$. Like I said, I got his TJs back, even if he made a mistake that he openly admitted and apologized for.
And Jones gets a go-free card from Dana White…disgusting.
@@lordburlap4514 people forget but Dana would go off about jones for years. He only started glazing him after Francis left and Conor stopped fighting.
@sacramentofoodforest yup, he said Jones should be thinking about going to 185 after Francis KO'd stipe. But a solid 90% of the UFC fanbase is casuals, and believe the narrative dana tells them
@@ThaHangmanif you don’t train and have a six pack, then you’re probably a causal
@@ThaHangmanDana loves his haters as much as the people who love him. It’s all money to him.
Every single post about PEDs or Jon Jones has comments about Jon's PED use. So no I wouldn't say it was forgotten or he was let off the hook! He served his suspension and has continued to test clean so he gets to fight again!
TJ never should of admitted to PED's , Jon Jones knows whats up
He basically already got caught that’s why he admitted either he came out or they were gonna caught em
Dude ruined his career with PEDs while we celebrate guys like Jon who’ve also failed and committed crimes.
We praise Silva, too. Makes no sense. Dana is the problem, IMO.
@ I think because he broke his leg people just used that as an excuse as to why he took them. Not saying it’s right. Silva is also likeable where as TJ wasn’t.
Snapping your leg in half is a legitimate reason to take PED’s. You definitely need to go through a lengthy testing process before you come back though. Or relax the rules in a way to make more things legal to take…I also agree Dana and the new owners are a huge problem, as well as crap scoring not calling fouls like cage grabs eye pokes and low blows. Than wonder why people don’t stop doing it…
TJ's career was ruined because he started losing fights even after taking PEDs that's the difference between him and Jones.
@Wavy_Gravy the small hats behind dana
He was a bully, and a cheater, so he deserves his downfall.
Definitely.
@@HybridHeavenuser how has he a bully?
@joakimpedersen1502 well geesh idk maybe by the fact that he was so ultra competitive he caused brain damage and permanently injured and ended the career of a teammate lol. And never showed remorse.
@joakimpedersen1502 kneeing his training partner to the back of the head after losing in training which is what forced him to retire, kneeing training partners to the body when they were just supposed to be boxing, and probably many more instances that team alpha have not told since they were reluctant to even tell these two. In general they said he has anger issues so he most likely was verbally abusive in the gym.
@@lukasbafer yeah tj was a bad sparring partner but that narrative that tj ruined his career is just not true at all
chris and his coach at tam has stated many times that chris had taken taken a lot of damage due to to the training style of the team.
he placed less of the blame on tj and more on the aggressive sparring style at the gym.
tj didn’t "end" his career buddy
"TJ was never my friend." - Dana White
What he did to Chris Holdsworth is unforgivable.
Chris already came out and said that wasn't true they just made it up to help sell the fight
Lmao bullshit. He confirmed it, on video, that it is 100% true. Go watch his interview with Ariel Hewani 🤦♂️
@ yeah at the time and then later on he came out and said it wasn't true Watch one of the documentaries about TJ disgraceful champion is what I think it's called
Who the hell is Chris holdsworth???
@ he would have been a household name if tj didnt ko him in practice
I always thought Dillashaw was the asshole in the story but now it just sounds like he went where he needed to go to get the training he needed, let Uriah know in advance, and Uriah got butthurt about it.
I don’t think that’s only what ruined his reputation/legacy though. That was the PED use on top of the reputation from how the story was spun about him being disloyal
Nah how he ended chris' career makes me lose all sympathy, he's got his own story cut short because this dude's ego outweighs common sense.
Very good video man, keep it up
11:40 to be exact, Lance Armstrong used EPO, but he wasn't alone. All the top cyclists of his era were using EPO.
Yeah but other cyclists weren't selling those crappy little rubber bracelets.
@@dudetrustme8320 The other cyclists weren't american either.
one of the most skilled fighters ever, could’ve even retired as one of the goats, but sadly had to ruin it by cheating. people go way to hard on him, but it’s okay when jones and anderson silva does it
Only casuals look the other way on Jones. Silva also snapped his leg.
@@lukasbafer people criticize tj even though it was for a weight cut, him snapping his leg is not an excuse for cheating
@joakimpedersen1502 more of an excuse than what TJ took it for.
@@lukasbafer having no energy, freezing because you literally have no body fat and almost dying? it ain’t no excuse but let’s not compare
@joakimpedersen1502 no because no one forced him to take a fight where he'd have to become anemic to make weight. Silvas was a devastating, freak accident.
Tj the CEO of EPO 😂
Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win.
TJ was literally one of my favorite fighters up until i found out he took PEDs. Still like him and respect his humility in the event of being caught but his success in the ring is all undermined by his PEDs use
Whats ur opinion on jon jones?
literally every fighter is ond PEDs, it's about who can hide it better
At the highest level They are all on PEDs
U are silly if you ever thought theres a ufc champ who doesnt use peds. Like thats just impossible
Remember how good his moments with Bruce Buffer were before each fight?
Stop trying to downplay his epo usage to just the Henry fight. Show the clip of Cody calling him out about before thier fight.
This.
@@HollisGale63 cody has no iq and doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. if you’re going down that path, then you can literally say that everyone was on something. he tested positive once, that’s it.
Cody said it himself "Everyone at team Alpha Male showed him"
Kind of important to note that years after the initial claim, Holdsworth and a couple other guys from Team Alpha Male came out and said that the thing about TJ beating Holdsworth into retirement was untrue. Might wanna include all the facts rather than throwing around an unfounded statement from over a decade ago (saying this as a Dillishaw hater btw)
Dillishaw's obsession with going down to 125 was confounding. It made ZERO SENSE.
Tj is one of my all time fav nothing is gonna change that
Ok so you have zero principles. Cool, you do you.
If can't raise your hand, and you think you will able complete in combat sports. Leave the fighting until fighting leaves you broken.
Way way way easier said than done bro
@myfeelingsarehurt6655 or Anderson silva. Or like pretty much any of the greats in the sport. Lol
Dillashaw lost against Sandhagen, that was a blatant robbery
No it wasn’t
@youtubeaccountserio2633 Yes it was, Sandhagen def won the 2nd, 4th and 5th round, he won 3/5 rounds, therefore he won the fight
You don't get to "cement your legacy" by only being able to win because you're juiced... TJ has no legacy.
And he also didn't "own up" to anything. You're obviously a fan of the cheater
1:08 “HEN-ON” not Ren, On”
Jesus Christ, I nearly stopped watching when I heard it. Wtf
thanks point dexter, wheres your video tho?
TJ was using EPO long before the fight with Cejudo.
The CEO of EPO
- Colby Covington, Submission Radio
He's great on Rampage's podcast
Really cool video man
The fact that one of the sports best made such bad decisions proves it can literally happen to anyone. These decisions ended his career early..... So unfortunate and can ONLY be summed up by Tj's exact words.....he was a victim of his own "delusional optimism".
Personally, I think TJ is one of the most talented fighters I've ever seen. I would have loved to see him healthy against Aljo.
A snake in the grass 🐍..
Great video
Im not excusing anything TJ did dude seemed like a dickhead but i do give him props for owning his PED use and not hiding behind lies
Idk maybe i might just be some loser who never aspires to anything (even though i disagree im very proud of the things ive accomplished in life and continue to strive for better) but if someone told me that i could have all the fame and champion status, even sacrificing my character and morales i wouldnt do it. Theres a reason anyone who knows tj even a little bit doesnt really have anything good to say about him except "well hes a good fighter and a hard competitor"
When pronouncing Brazilian names, the R makes an H sound.
Imagine using PED's and still losing... damn
Nah it's OK people do it in the Olympics all the time
Tj was this era’s Topuria, Topuria will fall the same
I think it not only TJ who done it. I think his attitude was more of problem but if it is with PED mixed with it is easy to criticized when you don’t like him. PED was not only TJ problem or MMA problem but it is whole professional sports that if exposed some of the PED center you will see a full exposure similar to BALCO scandal. In BALCO case there is more than 4,000 athletes from all sport but media only exposed Barry Bones, Sugar Shane and Maria Jones.
They’re all on steroids
He's hardly recognizable.....Doesn't even sound like he used to.
Intresting video for new mma fans like me.
When are these guys going to learn there is no such thing as a champion. There is always someone better or someone that has your number. The fight game is what it has always been , and that is about making money. Money has ruined every sport there is. And it is all just a facades anyway.
What happened to TJ's voice, he sounds like a 60yo longshoreman.
Delusional Self Confidence. The guy’s personality made him insufferable but I give TJ credit for recognizing that *and* also admitting it. But there’s plenty of athletes that have/had delusional confidence that weren’t fkn assholes like TJ. But I have a feeling TJ evolve as he matures…unlike Dom who will be an insufferable asshole well into old age because he’s an antagonistic asshole at his core while TJ is just too competitive with poor self control.
Lmfao, a bunch of random tares means he was on way more than EPO.
Jon Jones is even worse. Why is Jones getting away with it?
jon jones legacy should be removed then
Connor was right about him being a snake.
0:29 wtf was this
3:40 was proven it that was not the reason he retired updated ur info man
He admitted that specific hit started a chain reaction of concussions after that, a few more details he could have added on that part. But It’s on Ariel’s interview
lets be CLEAR YOU GOOFBALLS..........THIS WAS NOT A HALL OF FAME CAREER.............
My g he the best
I'm waiting for Jon "Bones Dudes" Jones and Dana "White Lies" White to LEAVE the UFC..!!! Please go away. Guys. Go. Seriously, gooooo !!!! TF.? Seriously gooooooooo😮
Pronounced henan barao
All these guys are all on stuff, only uninformed people say it’s cheating. TJ is on the top ten list all time. Dudes a killer.
McGregor 😂
5th Viewer here
He never deserved to be great.
Say you all what you will, without TJ I dont know I would be such a huge fan of MMA and learning/participating myself.
TJ vs Barao 1 and 2 were the fights that dragged me into it, and regardless of anything else, i am forever grateful and admire TJ.
He wasn't on anything when he fought Barao, and even though it is far before most of you begun watching, just go and watch it and you will understand.
Just listen to what Rogan said about that fight - that is what I felt. It was EPIC.
It gave me a feeling I have never felt watching any other sport, not even close.
I saw it live and now this is forever my sport.
That means a lot to me, so I forever have TJs back.
Most don't understand the cost of being a high level competitor. Show some respect for those who have sacrificed everything to be one. Even if they F*ed up along the way.
Have you all never made terrible mistakes?
All those secrets you have, the ones you pretend not to have since you have hidden them? You think theres anyone alive who doesn't have these? If you were a public figure they would be public as well, so be glad Ur not important enough.
But shut up online judging others about things you dont even understand just because their lives are public and your's isn't important enough to be.
None of us are saints.
Not saying it was right that TJ took PEDs, just that yall have no business acting all righteous here when your own lives most likely look 10x worse. Just nobody cares to examine your lives publicly so you get to run ur mouths online instead as if you all do everything right. Get real.
Nobody even wants to know how many skeletons you all have in your closets. Isn't that way more sad?
At least TJ came home with belts and $$$.
Like I said, I got his TJs back, even if he made a mistake that he openly admitted and apologized for.
OK cool
Lol what are you on about with a short story bro. He's a cheater, was a bully and deserves his downfall.
TJs #1 Biggest Fan in the World folks