I’m hoping they re-release the original game in this new format (player’s, dm’s, bestiary)! Love having everything better organized (like having all character classes in one book, etc), but don’t necessarily want it in 5e.
This is the best Dark Fantasy setting for me in existence. I haven't even played it yet but all 3 books are so amazing and in such nice quality. As you said, this is also one of the best Monster Manuals I've ever seen. Great reviews of the books as always! Thank you very much!
@@DaveThaumavore Even though I am not a die hard 5e fan I really love what 5e added to Symbaroum. Because I like my classes and level system and Symbaroum really fits that.
Glad they stuck to the flavor on this one. That was my beef with the change in spells in the other books. So much of what makes Symbaroum appealing is the aesthetic and tone which are really cohesively maintained throughout the original materials.
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Great review, Dave. I don’t buy a lot of monster books, but I am liking what you’ve shown here. How useful is the book if you don’t have the setting details provided in the other two books?
So ran my second game today and notice many creatures have loads of hit points like the mare cat a sort of venomous sphynx cat the size of a puma has over 30 hp which seems mad for creature that plagues villages and has low cr
@@marcraygun6290 This reminds me of the fact that the authors really wanted combat to be deadlier than vanilla 5e. But it might just make combat draggy while reducing plausibility/realism.
@@DaveThaumavore I decided on second game to just reduce hp as seems reasonable, it's not just the deadliness it's the lack of realism you mention , how are these farmers surviving against mare cats and Jakarta, does village militia have machine guns
I really don't know what version to pick. In one hand the og one looks really build into the world and its look very fucking hard core. On the other one i mybe will want to take this idea and play whit them whit other world's ( i had an idea for a desert survival game) so mybe the 5e version will be batter because i will have more metrial to take from. But 5e exploration and survival become trivial very quickly. But mybe this one fix it. But im kinda want to try new system and 5e is way to heroic for my campiang idea. So many decisions
I would go with whichever gives you the most options. If your play group is open to new systems the og will probably be better If getting your play group to play other systems is akin to pulling teeth I'd get thr 5e version and get more tools for your tool kit
If you want to make your 5E game deadlier and grittier you should also definitely check out Darker Dungeons by Giffyglyph. It's a collection of optional modular rules that you can customize and cherry pick just the ones you need for your game. Lots of good stuff in there that would fit a desert survival game.
I’m hoping they re-release the original game in this new format (player’s, dm’s, bestiary)! Love having everything better organized (like having all character classes in one book, etc), but don’t necessarily want it in 5e.
I can't say I'm much of a 5e person anymore (probably because of your channel), but I always love me a good monster manual! Great review!
This is the best Dark Fantasy setting for me in existence. I haven't even played it yet but all 3 books are so amazing and in such nice quality. As you said, this is also one of the best Monster Manuals I've ever seen. Great reviews of the books as always! Thank you very much!
Yeah it’s really good. I think a lot of folks immediately dismiss it for being 5e but FL really made it special.
@@DaveThaumavore Even though I am not a die hard 5e fan I really love what 5e added to Symbaroum. Because I like my classes and level system and Symbaroum really fits that.
Glad they stuck to the flavor on this one. That was my beef with the change in spells in the other books. So much of what makes Symbaroum appealing is the aesthetic and tone which are really cohesively maintained throughout the original materials.
Thank ya kindly, Dave. You've never failed to supply me with fodder to pass on to my GM. Cheers!
Thank you for the great review! I’ve got to get this for the illustrations alone
Congratulations for the ennie nomination! Got my vote!
Symbaroum really is on of the best Gems out there, be it 5e or original rules. I just love the setting and atmosphere in this world.
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There is an adventure with the Sly River Hunter called “The Curse of the River Goddess” in the “Adventure Pack One”. It is a pretty good one shot.
I love this setting, and I’d love to play in its original system, but short term I think this is the best way to go.
Just heard of your TH-cam channel yesterday when voting in the Ennies. Impressed by the few videos I have seen so far, I just voted Dave Thaumavore RPG Reviews #1 for Best Online Content! 😈
I was unfamiliar with all of the nominees except for the Sly Flourish Blog, but after reviewing the content of the other nominees this channel stands out for its insightful reviews and has already convinced me to delve a little deeper and consider getting some of the products you have reviewed.
This year I took the Ennies voting more serious and wanted to vote for more than just categories or things I was familiar with so I dove into the nominees I was unfamiliar with and
I have already discovered several new products or content that look impressive and had not heard about before yesterday. 😀
Thanks for your very thoughtful vote and comment. Glad to hear you’re finding cool new stuff, Craig!
Holy hell this might win out over Out of the Pit as my favourite monster compendium
Some of the art for this game reminds me of the band Heilung
Great review, as usual thank you!
Awesome!
Great review, Dave. I don’t buy a lot of monster books, but I am liking what you’ve shown here. How useful is the book if you don’t have the setting details provided in the other two books?
It’s a fun book without the other books, but it’s closely tied to its setting.
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So ran my second game today and notice many creatures have loads of hit points like the mare cat a sort of venomous sphynx cat the size of a puma has over 30 hp which seems mad for creature that plagues villages and has low cr
Oof, that’s weird.
@@DaveThaumavore I didn't look to close first game so sent a small pack of these cr1/2 beasts and almost had tpk when I realised they had 33 hp each
@@marcraygun6290 This reminds me of the fact that the authors really wanted combat to be deadlier than vanilla 5e. But it might just make combat draggy while reducing plausibility/realism.
@@DaveThaumavore I decided on second game to just reduce hp as seems reasonable, it's not just the deadliness it's the lack of realism you mention , how are these farmers surviving against mare cats and Jakarta, does village militia have machine guns
Great review, but I really don't like the whole idea of CR values.
I really don't know what version to pick. In one hand the og one looks really build into the world and its look very fucking hard core. On the other one i mybe will want to take this idea and play whit them whit other world's ( i had an idea for a desert survival game) so mybe the 5e version will be batter because i will have more metrial to take from. But 5e exploration and survival become trivial very quickly. But mybe this one fix it. But im kinda want to try new system and 5e is way to heroic for my campiang idea. So many decisions
For exploration I will stick with the original system. Me and my group don’t like the exploration in 5e.
I would go with whichever gives you the most options.
If your play group is open to new systems the og will probably be better
If getting your play group to play other systems is akin to pulling teeth I'd get thr 5e version and get more tools for your tool kit
I'm facing the same challenge!
If you want to make your 5E game deadlier and grittier you should also definitely check out Darker Dungeons by Giffyglyph. It's a collection of optional modular rules that you can customize and cherry pick just the ones you need for your game. Lots of good stuff in there that would fit a desert survival game.
@@easyasgoblinpie well thanks you very very much. I will check it out.
I know some people are bummed about the conversion. All I care is the developers refrain from making any changes for the sake of -WOKENOMICS-
I wish they would put supplements out in D&D 3.5 or Pathfinder 1e. Pathfinder 2e, D&D 4 and 5 suck.