As a Hispanic myself he WAS the reason I switched from goalie to forward and got my support to the devils. I had never been so disappointed in his switch to the rangers and that contract was such an albatross to his good career
As a lifelong Devils fan, Scott Stevens was absolutely the heart and soul of those 3 cup winning teams. He was the captain, an absolute warrior on the ice, and a true leader in every sense of the word. He will go down as one of my favorite Devils players of all time.
As a lifelong Devils fan, I believe this is the best roster of the 3 Stanley cups. John Madden, Jay Pandolfo, and Sykora are extremely underrated. Have to argue one of the best D groups of the early 2000s. Thank you Shannon for bringing me back to a great time in New Jersey Devils history!
john madden was an amazing shutdown center indeed. NJD had some pretty good guys on the blueline too...stevens, rafalski, neidermeyer, daneyko. congrats devils and their fans on their 95, 00 and 03 cup wins. lastly, i think 1995 was the tsn turning point for the devils, after destroying the red wings the nhl seemed to take NJD on more seriously, on and off the ice.
The defining characteristic of this team was its amazing depth at the center position. Jason Arnott, Scott Gomex, John Madden and Bobby Holik ... NO NHL TEAM could ever put four centers out to match up with those guys. And this was a team that had so many good centers on its roster that it traded Brendan Morrison and Denis Pederson away during this season.
I find it interesting when you say that this team was still low scoring/low chances, because that's only the perception that everyone places on this team. The 2000 New Jersey Devils finished 2nd in goals for only behind Detroit, averaging just over 3 goals per game, and the 2001 Devils led the league in scoring averaging nearly 3.6 goals per game. Those early 2000's teams were high charged offensive teams with one of the best lines in the league (The A Line with Elias - Arnott - Sykora), but everyone seems to overlook it anyways.
Brandon Holmes I haven’t been able to find it, but I distinctly remember seeing a SCP highlight of a Devils goal in which Brodeur and all five skaters touched the puck in route to a goal.
The whole "Stevens didn't have to follow through with hits" thing kinda irked me... that really isn't how hockey is played. Stevens was asked about this once and replied: "What kind of respect do I get? Just because I'm a physical player, it's O.K. to come at me and do what you want? Hey, it's a hockey game. It's not figure skating. "You know what? I can take a hit and I can give a hit. I don't care who it is. No one gets a free ride out there. I don't get a free ride, and no one gets a free ride from me." He played hard, and within the rules of the time. Doesn't seem fair to criticize him for playing "too hard". He was a huge beast and used it to his advantage. People should have learned to keep their heads up in the neutral zone. Especially Lindros, he never had to in juniors and didn't learn.
Most people's issue stems from some of the hits (especially the one on Paul Kariya, who had a history of concussions at the time) are a bit suspect even for the time. Had he not been as predatory with big hits he couldve been respected more than he is. But given that Lindros and Kariya were never the same after those hits he's earned a bad rep.
@@neroameealucard945 but from peewee hockey they teach you to skate with your head up. Lindros was a skilled enough player that he should've known that. He also didn't mind using his big body for checks either. Kariya, the one thing you can say is that the hit might have been a tad late. It happens so quick though that it's tough to pull out of a hit.
I feel the same way. Should the rules have accounted for a guy like Stevens? Almost certainly. But he did what he could within the rules of the time to let the other team know that there would be no mercy if they tried to stand between him and winning, and he expected the same in return. There’s too much on the line, too many people who depend on the team’s success, both in the spotlight and behind the scenes, to not take advantage of every centimeter of opportunity. I’m sure if I was a fan of the other team I’d hate the guy, kind of like I hated Sean Avery, but as a fan of NJ, I wouldn’t have traded him for Mario Lemieux. I don’t know that they even win one cup if he’s not on those teams
Bingo. Been making this exact same argument with ppl for years. Stevens generally played within the rules of the time. So ppl's issue shouldn't really be with Stevens, it should be with the league at that time for allowing those hits because Scott was not the only guy doing it. There were a LOT of big hits back then. Darian Hatcher, anyone remember that guy? Tie Domi?
IMO the most frustrating team to play against during the 2000's. That A-Line (Arnott - Elias - Sykora)was something special. And arguably one of the best checking/shutdown lines with Brylin - Madden - Pandolfo manning the 3rd line
This was the year I fell in love with that devils team. I'm a caps fan first and foremost but that devils team was everything I love about hockey. Physical, fast, imposing. This version of the devils were far more offensively talented then their 95 team.
The TOUGHEST Stanley Cup run for the New Jersey Devils was the 2000 Championship. Down 3-1 in the series vs. Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference Finals and winning Games 5 & 7 in Philly was EPIC. And don’t forget Game 6 in New Jersey with a 0-0 tie into the 3rd period in which Claude Lemieux and Alexander Mogilny scoring with less than 10 minutes left in the 3rd period; Eric Lindros finally came back to the Flyers late in the playoffs and scored the only goal for Philadelphia with 29 seconds left, Devils win Game 6 2-1. Except for the rout in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Finals vs. Dallas, Devils winning 7-2 & Ken Daneyko scoring, all the games were close especially Game 5 going to 3OT with Dallas winning 1-0 and Game 6 went 2OT With the New Jersey Devils winning 2-1 and the Stanley Cup on Jason Arnott’s goal. The series vs. Toronto was a battle and who can forget the shots allowed by New Jersey in Game 6 with only allowing 6 shots on goal the entire game, WOW!
+Schuyler van Leet - Stevens was the captain. He was the heart and soul of the Devils as any good captain should be. That said, Brodeur was the face of the franchise and the backbone of NJ success for 2 full decades.
+Schuyler van Leet - middling? hmm that's not how I remember it. After Stevens retired in 03-04, and after the year-long lockout, the Devils continued to have 5 more dominant seasons with Marty as their netminder: 05-06: 1st in the Atlantic 3rd in the East 06-07: 1st In the Atlantic 2nd in the East 07-08: 2nd In the Atlantic 4th in the East 08-09: 1st in the Atlantic 3rd in the East 09-10: 1st in the Atlantic 2nd in the East
+Schuyler van Leet - Additionally, the Devils did not start to become a successful team until Brodeur became the team's full-time starter in 93-94. Stevens arrived in 91-92.
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The 2000 ECFs still haunt me more than any other memory for Philadelphia sports. Worse than the 04 Super Bowl loss... because the Flyers had a 3-1 series lead AND Lindros was coming back. And then they blow that lead and Scott Stevens ends Lindros' Flyers career with that insane head shot. It actually ended my childhood. I still remember Elias, Sykora and Mogilny skating circles around the Flyers D. And Brodeur was at the peak of his dominance. And he was always especially dominant against the Flyers.
+Evan TYoung - I thought Brodeur's play in that comeback against you guys secured his first Conn Smythe. This would be the first of two times (second time in 2003) that I thought this...........lol
InnerMachinations Yes, he was mistaken. The Flyers signed Chris Gratton from Tampa in 97, but offer sheets were different and the NHL made the Flyers compensate Tampa... so the Flyers trade the Lightning Mikael Renberg.
I was on the opposite end of that as I fell in love with the Devils on that run. And that Philly series was awesome to watch. Amazing comeback. Brian Boucher, I remember, coming out of nowhere that year and postseason to backstop the Flyers to that ECF. He battled Marty for sure but just couldn't quite get the better of him.
Claude Lemieux should be in the Hall of Fame for sure. There's not a lot of true big game players but Claude was better the deeper they went in the playoffs. I do agree he was dirty but his team mates loved the guy. Roy's pulling from his net to try to protect him shows how much he was liked in my mind.
I disagree with u on broduer but I respect ur opinion. And yes Roy is the one guy I will concede to. Hasek was great. But sometimes i felt his chaotic style worked against him in big games. But he was also the dominator sooo... and Steven's was my favorite defenseman of all time with niedermayer a close second.
Saying that Brodeur is in the top three in the era that you watched makes more sense than when you said he was in the top 10. I think people (including myself) heard that and then thought you were crazy. In the end it was just your opinion and that is that. You can have an opinion but it doesn't mean people are going to agree, obviously. Keep up the great work been here since 200 subs
It’s very interesting, the NHL from 95-03 is eerily similar to the NHL from 09-17. In both 9 year stretches, 4 teams dominated. 1 team won one cup (Dallas and Boston), 1 team won two cups (Colorado And LA), and 2 different teams won 3 cups (Detroit, New Jersey and Chicago, Pittsburg). What’s more: the 1 cup winning team lost another cup in 6 games to one of the 3 cup winning teams (Dallas to New Jersey in 2000, Boston to Chicago in 2013). Just something to note.
+The Hockey Guy - Happy to see you at least recognized Marty is top 3. Great vid overall. Brings back great memories. Question: Do you like the direction hockey is going with safety, or would you have liked to keep the kind of hits we saw back in the day legal?
You sure muddled that sentiment in the opener! Brodeur vs Roy is totally fine w being a matter of opinion. Stevens just played the way the best he could - up to the very limit of the letter of the law. I hate all the whining about Stevens. He didn't shorten Lindros's career, Bobby Clarke did. Ppl wanna complain about Claude Lemieux, sure. I'll be the first to admit that my favorite player is a man you could only like to watch play if he's on your team. But the butthurt about Stevens it just goes on and on. Oh Byfuglien is just fine but Stevens is a meanie. Lindros could hit anyone the way he wanted because he's offense and we all only wanna see offense, right, because we're all eight years old? It's not a crime to be big in the NHL. Yall are pussies, end. of. story, and your incessant whining means now we all have watch Crosby dance around like Brian Boitano every damned year. Well, congrats, figure skating fans, congrats.
How many goalies, through their dominant play, have actually forced the NHL to make rule changes and alterations to the very field-of-play? The TRAPAZOID exists, and was established specifically because of Martin Brodeur. This is legendary; yet he gets very little recognition in that regard. Brodeur's unmatched skills and abilities with movement and puck handling, actually extended the careers and effectiveness of his aging defencemen - Stevens & Daneyko especially. Yes, goalies' top priority is stopping the puck, not moving it; and HERE is where we all have our OPINIONS of who did that best. But the position is a lot more dynamic than that - in fact, goalies like Brodeur play very cerebral game of positioning, pokechecks, launching quick counterattacks, all kinds of critical action which ARE NOT at all reflected in ANY 'stats'.
Hey hockey dude, here's why Marty Brodeur is the best goalie. cuz He was good. I'm a Devils fan and I never say he's the best, a lot of Devils fans do. Like I was playing NHL Hits at school (It was the end of the year so I brought my game cube to play in this one class) last year and some kid was like "I'm gonna play with the Avalanche and use the 2nd best goalie ever" I just find it cringey that he said that.
There's a reason why they call Glen Hall Mr Hockey. He was great. I think he was the true best goallie ever. Inventing the Butterfly and totally changing what goalies would become. Second for me is Hasek. The guy literally... Not Figuratively played on his head. Nobody since or before Hasek did what he did Third is Roy because he became bigger as the games started to matter more. He was the first of the true Butterfly goalies that trained and fully used the Butterfly the way it should and he was flashy. He made sure you know where the puck was when he caught it. He made goaltending exiting. Fourth is Brodeur. Look Brodeur was big. He was good but I swear he couldn't step on the ice properly with the size of pads he had on. Not saying that Roy didn't have big pads later in his career but he didn't have it late. Brodeur also didn't have the quality of shots that Roy and Hasek had to face every night.
Gabriel Matte I have a really hard time comparing them. It seems like Brodeur and Hasek played different positions. They both were awesome and did their job as close to perfect as they could, but I would hate myself for putting one above the other. I put Roy at #1. Hall I don't have in the top but there's a reason for that. Hall was the first. He didn't have anyone to draw off of. All the butterfly goalies after Hall could draw from previous goalies to fine tune their game. So Hall was not as good, but it's not his fault. He is the most innovative goalie of all time, closely followed by Hasek. He changed the game forever, But I don't think he is #1 all time. That's just me.
John Collins - I put Hasek above Brodeur because he did it without a great team most of his career. Hasek carried the Sabers to a finals. Brodeur didn't carry the Devils the trap did
Gabriel Matte Yeah fair enough I can definitely agree there. The '99 sabres were really just Hasek and then some above average hockey players. I can't see us getting out of the second round without Hasek playing the way he did
Lewis Leibo He deserves it but won't get there for a while. Playing for a defensive, small market team isn't ideal. But 1000 pts, 400 goals, 2 cups and over 20 years with the Devils is more than deserving of a HoF spot.
What do you think of Ken Dryden? Because his stats says he is basically a god. But he also played behind arguable the best defense core ever. Like he was obviously great, but is he as good as his stats?
I think marty and roy were the two best ever.i put hasek a little behind those two.yes marty had a great defense in front of him but he made big saves at big times.
I heartily agree with you that *St. Patrick* and *The Dominator* were better than Marty And yes, *Scotty Stevens* was the heart and soul of the Devils when he was there and one of the *greatest captains* the game has ever seen
+yotta93 meister - All due respect fellow Devils fan, but numbers aren't the only thing that matters when it comes to goaltending; SV% doesn't illustrate quality of goals allowed or _when_ they were allowed. For example, let's say you make 40 saves but the 2 goals you let in were game tying or game winning or just softies; doesn't that have an adverse impact on the result of the game regardless of the fact that 2 goals in 42 shots means you're posting a .952 SV%? How about durability and longevity? How about impact on the defense and offense via your style of play in net? How about his impact on the game of hockey itself? How about chemistry with your team and coaches? How about how many times your name is on the NHL All-Time record book? All of these qualities AKA "the big picture", should be considered when evaluating a goaltender's greatness.
That's not even funny ... the life altering damages evoked by Stevens. It's not a joke to intentionally bring harm to someone. Let alone in a sporting 'game'. He and Hasek were/are sociopaths.
1 Glen Hall 2 Hasek 3 Roy 4 Brodeur. I put Mr Goalie there because he invented the Butterfly. He is the reason for the way goaler is played today. Anybody that ever seen Hasek play would know why he is second. The guy was unreal and made saves that nobody had any business saving. Roy is third for the simple reason he was the first true fully trained butterfly goalie. He was flashy and made sure that people know he made the save. Finally Brodeur... He didn't have the quality of shots that Roy and Hasek had to face for starters and anybody that watched him play at the same time as Roy and Hasek the eye test told you everything you needed to know. Brodeur did score a beauty of a goal against Montreal. I was a Montreal Fan back then and it pissed me off but it was the type of game he played
I don't disagree with you but I will say Marty was a vastly superior puck handler and, I think, a more cerebral goalie. He made a lot of outlet passes and constantly broke up the dump in of the opposing team. He was very smart about when to go out and play the puck, starting the rush up ice with a beautiful pass and when to challenge the shooter. His puck handling is the main reason he didn't face a ton of shots. He had a great defense in front of him but he also shut down a lot of dump ins and got the puck moving in the other direction before the opposing team could do anything. They had to change the rules just to take away that advantage because Marty was so good. Roy and Hasek can't make that claim.
+Connor's Sports Talk - *The neutral zone trap:* The go-to weapon of choice by those who desire to discredit Martin Brodeur's greatness. Ironically, If people really knew how the Trap defense worked then they'd never use it against Martin Brodeur. Martin Brodeur was the main reason why the trap was as successful as it was in NJ. Many teams, past and present, utilize the neutral zone trap and it is not some magical defensive scheme that spawns 3-time Stanley Cup winning teams like some seem to believe. The difference between other neutral zone trap teams, and New Jersey, was Brodeur's remarkable puck handling skills. In case you're unfamiliar, the neutral zone trap essentially forces teams to dump the puck in from the neutral zone due to a 4-man clog in the neutral zone and just 1 forechecker. When the dump would inevitably occur, Brodeur would then use his stick handling skills and make outlet passes, immediately putting the Devils back on the attack while completely inhibiting the opposing team from establishing a strong forecheck. Instead of Brodeur stopping shots, he was stopping the scoring/shooting chances altogether by handling the puck, while simultaneously creating a scoring opportunity for his team. If all of Marty's greatness was due to him playing behind the neutral zone trap, why haven't other teams such as the 2000-2009 Minnesota Wild (who were coached during those 9 years by none other, than the neutral zone trap guru, Jacques Lemaire), produced a legendary goalie? Where's all of the easy wins? The Vezinas? The Stanley Cups? How about Guy Boucher's Lightning from 2010 through 2013? Or His Senators last season? How did the trap defense work out for those team's success and their goaltenders? Martin Brodeur was the reason the neutral zone trap was as successful as it was in New Jersey due to his ability to be a 3rd defensemen, limit shots against, and completely neuter opposing team's offensive zone time and forecheck. As for using shot totals as a way to diminish Marty's greatness, it doesn't work. Why? Because Marty himself, was the primary reason his shot totals were low. Crediting goalies for stopping shots but Discrediting Brodeur for stopping opportunities altogether is called flawed logic.
The comeback vs. Philly after being down 3 games to 1 was unreal.
As a Hispanic kid from NJ, Gomez going to the Rangers broke my heart as a kid.
dpreetam he was the first Hispanic player to be ever drafted in the NHL
As a Hispanic myself he WAS the reason I switched from goalie to forward and got my support to the devils. I had never been so disappointed in his switch to the rangers and that contract was such an albatross to his good career
@@kevinhernandez4471Technically Guerin was first.
As a lifelong Devils fan, Scott Stevens was absolutely the heart and soul of those 3 cup winning teams. He was the captain, an absolute warrior on the ice, and a true leader in every sense of the word. He will go down as one of my favorite Devils players of all time.
I still get chills when I think about Jason Arnott's double ot winning goal and Gary Thorne's call on it
GEZIM Berisha every time I score a goal in beer league game. I imagine Gary Thorne call on it every time!
Kevin Hernandez Gary is the G.O.A.T
Goat pass from Elias
As a lifelong Devils fan, I believe this is the best roster of the 3 Stanley cups. John Madden, Jay Pandolfo, and Sykora are extremely underrated. Have to argue one of the best D groups of the early 2000s.
Thank you Shannon for bringing me back to a great time in New Jersey Devils history!
John Madden is a cool name. Icon in Football OBVIOUSLY but the hockey player wasn't bad ether.
john madden was an amazing shutdown center indeed. NJD had some pretty good guys on the blueline too...stevens, rafalski, neidermeyer, daneyko. congrats devils and their fans on their 95, 00 and 03 cup wins. lastly, i think 1995 was the tsn turning point for the devils, after destroying the red wings the nhl seemed to take NJD on more seriously, on and off the ice.
That playoff series vs Dallas was my first real hockey memory.
The Arnott goal will forever be burned into my brain.
The defining characteristic of this team was its amazing depth at the center position. Jason Arnott, Scott Gomex, John Madden and Bobby Holik ... NO NHL TEAM could ever put four centers out to match up with those guys. And this was a team that had so many good centers on its roster that it traded Brendan Morrison and Denis Pederson away during this season.
I find it interesting when you say that this team was still low scoring/low chances, because that's only the perception that everyone places on this team. The 2000 New Jersey Devils finished 2nd in goals for only behind Detroit, averaging just over 3 goals per game, and the 2001 Devils led the league in scoring averaging nearly 3.6 goals per game. Those early 2000's teams were high charged offensive teams with one of the best lines in the league (The A Line with Elias - Arnott - Sykora), but everyone seems to overlook it anyways.
Brandon Holmes I haven’t been able to find it, but I distinctly remember seeing a SCP highlight of a Devils goal in which Brodeur and all five skaters touched the puck in route to a goal.
The whole "Stevens didn't have to follow through with hits" thing kinda irked me... that really isn't how hockey is played. Stevens was asked about this once and replied:
"What kind of respect do I get? Just because I'm a physical player, it's O.K. to come at me and do what you want? Hey, it's a hockey game. It's not figure skating.
"You know what? I can take a hit and I can give a hit. I don't care who it is. No one gets a free ride out there. I don't get a free ride, and no one gets a free ride from me."
He played hard, and within the rules of the time. Doesn't seem fair to criticize him for playing "too hard". He was a huge beast and used it to his advantage. People should have learned to keep their heads up in the neutral zone. Especially Lindros, he never had to in juniors and didn't learn.
Lawphin this is the most underrated comment ever
Most people's issue stems from some of the hits (especially the one on Paul Kariya, who had a history of concussions at the time) are a bit suspect even for the time. Had he not been as predatory with big hits he couldve been respected more than he is. But given that Lindros and Kariya were never the same after those hits he's earned a bad rep.
@@neroameealucard945 but from peewee hockey they teach you to skate with your head up. Lindros was a skilled enough player that he should've known that. He also didn't mind using his big body for checks either. Kariya, the one thing you can say is that the hit might have been a tad late. It happens so quick though that it's tough to pull out of a hit.
I feel the same way. Should the rules have accounted for a guy like Stevens? Almost certainly. But he did what he could within the rules of the time to let the other team know that there would be no mercy if they tried to stand between him and winning, and he expected the same in return. There’s too much on the line, too many people who depend on the team’s success, both in the spotlight and behind the scenes, to not take advantage of every centimeter of opportunity. I’m sure if I was a fan of the other team I’d hate the guy, kind of like I hated Sean Avery, but as a fan of NJ, I wouldn’t have traded him for Mario Lemieux. I don’t know that they even win one cup if he’s not on those teams
Bingo. Been making this exact same argument with ppl for years. Stevens generally played within the rules of the time. So ppl's issue shouldn't really be with Stevens, it should be with the league at that time for allowing those hits because Scott was not the only guy doing it. There were a LOT of big hits back then. Darian Hatcher, anyone remember that guy? Tie Domi?
IMO the most frustrating team to play against during the 2000's. That A-Line (Arnott - Elias - Sykora)was something special. And arguably one of the best checking/shutdown lines with Brylin - Madden - Pandolfo manning the 3rd line
This was the year I fell in love with that devils team. I'm a caps fan first and foremost but that devils team was everything I love about hockey. Physical, fast, imposing. This version of the devils were far more offensively talented then their 95 team.
That was a great time to be a Devils fan .
I'll never forget Steven's Your next after laying out Kozlov lol
My most recent Jersey purchase was a white Scotty Stevens with the 2000 patch AND Stanley Cup finals patch. So sick.
The TOUGHEST Stanley Cup run for the New Jersey Devils was the 2000 Championship.
Down 3-1 in the series vs. Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference Finals and winning Games 5 & 7 in Philly was EPIC. And don’t forget Game 6 in New Jersey with a 0-0 tie into the 3rd period in which Claude Lemieux and Alexander Mogilny scoring with less than 10 minutes left in the 3rd period; Eric Lindros finally came back to the Flyers late in the playoffs and scored the only goal for Philadelphia with 29 seconds left, Devils win Game 6 2-1.
Except for the rout in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Finals vs. Dallas, Devils winning 7-2 & Ken Daneyko scoring, all the games were close especially Game 5 going to 3OT with Dallas winning 1-0 and Game 6 went 2OT With the New Jersey Devils winning 2-1 and the Stanley Cup on Jason Arnott’s goal.
The series vs. Toronto was a battle and who can forget the shots allowed by New Jersey in Game 6 with only allowing 6 shots on goal the entire game, WOW!
Personally, my favorite of the 3 was the '03 finals. Two great great teams, two great goalies, two great captains, and two great logos. :)
scott stevens is my favorite devil... as a devils fan.
You're 100% correct in saying Stevens was the heart and soul of the devils I don't get why fans always say it was Brodeur.
+Schuyler van Leet - Stevens was the captain. He was the heart and soul of the Devils as any good captain should be. That said, Brodeur was the face of the franchise and the backbone of NJ success for 2 full decades.
Brodeur was not the backbone of NJs success, Scott Stevens was. The devils were a middling team after Strevens retired.
+Schuyler van Leet - middling? hmm that's not how I remember it. After Stevens retired in 03-04, and after the year-long lockout, the Devils continued to have 5 more dominant seasons with Marty as their netminder:
05-06: 1st in the Atlantic 3rd in the East
06-07: 1st In the Atlantic 2nd in the East
07-08: 2nd In the Atlantic 4th in the East
08-09: 1st in the Atlantic 3rd in the East
09-10: 1st in the Atlantic 2nd in the East
+Schuyler van Leet - Additionally, the Devils did not start to become a successful team until Brodeur became the team's full-time starter in 93-94. Stevens arrived in 91-92.
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I loved Rafalski when he was playing with Lidstrom in Detroit!
The 2000 ECFs still haunt me more than any other memory for Philadelphia sports. Worse than the 04 Super Bowl loss... because the Flyers had a 3-1 series lead AND Lindros was coming back. And then they blow that lead and Scott Stevens ends Lindros' Flyers career with that insane head shot. It actually ended my childhood. I still remember Elias, Sykora and Mogilny skating circles around the Flyers D. And Brodeur was at the peak of his dominance. And he was always especially dominant against the Flyers.
+Evan TYoung - I thought Brodeur's play in that comeback against you guys secured his first Conn Smythe. This would be the first of two times (second time in 2003) that I thought this...........lol
Wasn't the legion of doom broken up after 97
InnerMachinations Yes, he was mistaken. The Flyers signed Chris Gratton from Tampa in 97, but offer sheets were different and the NHL made the Flyers compensate Tampa... so the Flyers trade the Lightning Mikael Renberg.
I was on the opposite end of that as I fell in love with the Devils on that run. And that Philly series was awesome to watch. Amazing comeback. Brian Boucher, I remember, coming out of nowhere that year and postseason to backstop the Flyers to that ECF. He battled Marty for sure but just couldn't quite get the better of him.
Claude Lemieux should be in the Hall of Fame for sure. There's not a lot of true big game players but Claude was better the deeper they went in the playoffs. I do agree he was dirty but his team mates loved the guy. Roy's pulling from his net to try to protect him shows how much he was liked in my mind.
I disagree with u on broduer but I respect ur opinion. And yes Roy is the one guy I will concede to. Hasek was great. But sometimes i felt his chaotic style worked against him in big games. But he was also the dominator sooo... and Steven's was my favorite defenseman of all time with niedermayer a close second.
Saying that Brodeur is in the top three in the era that you watched makes more sense than when you said he was in the top 10. I think people (including myself) heard that and then thought you were crazy. In the end it was just your opinion and that is that. You can have an opinion but it doesn't mean people are going to agree, obviously. Keep up the great work been here since 200 subs
"Two Z's is a no" XD lol I don't know why that made me laugh so much
I'm not triggered, or butt hurt by your opinions. I love the video and the Devils.
It’s very interesting, the NHL from 95-03 is eerily similar to the NHL from 09-17. In both 9 year stretches, 4 teams dominated. 1 team won one cup (Dallas and Boston), 1 team won two cups (Colorado And LA), and 2 different teams won 3 cups (Detroit, New Jersey and Chicago, Pittsburg). What’s more: the 1 cup winning team lost another cup in 6 games to one of the 3 cup winning teams (Dallas to New Jersey in 2000, Boston to Chicago in 2013). Just something to note.
John madden was a beast. Gomez was sooo good in NJ. Not sure what happened after he left.
Dang you hate the trap, Brodeur, and Stevens 😳
I liked Stevens, just felt his hits looked dirty even though they were clean. He was a warrior, nothing but respect from me.
+The Hockey Guy - Happy to see you at least recognized Marty is top 3. Great vid overall. Brings back great memories. Question: Do you like the direction hockey is going with safety, or would you have liked to keep the kind of hits we saw back in the day legal?
You sure muddled that sentiment in the opener! Brodeur vs Roy is totally fine w being a matter of opinion. Stevens just played the way the best he could - up to the very limit of the letter of the law. I hate all the whining about Stevens. He didn't shorten Lindros's career, Bobby Clarke did. Ppl wanna complain about Claude Lemieux, sure. I'll be the first to admit that my favorite player is a man you could only like to watch play if he's on your team. But the butthurt about Stevens it just goes on and on. Oh Byfuglien is just fine but Stevens is a meanie. Lindros could hit anyone the way he wanted because he's offense and we all only wanna see offense, right, because we're all eight years old? It's not a crime to be big in the NHL. Yall are pussies, end. of. story, and your incessant whining means now we all have watch Crosby dance around like Brian Boitano every damned year. Well, congrats, figure skating fans, congrats.
Alex Pitti I mean the trap ruins the game
How many goalies, through their dominant play, have actually forced the NHL to make rule changes and alterations to the very field-of-play? The TRAPAZOID exists, and was established specifically because of Martin Brodeur. This is legendary; yet he gets very little recognition in that regard.
Brodeur's unmatched skills and abilities with movement and puck handling, actually extended the careers and effectiveness of his aging defencemen - Stevens & Daneyko especially.
Yes, goalies' top priority is stopping the puck, not moving it; and HERE is where we all have our OPINIONS of who did that best. But the position is a lot more dynamic than that - in fact, goalies like Brodeur play very cerebral game of positioning, pokechecks, launching quick counterattacks, all kinds of critical action which ARE NOT at all reflected in ANY 'stats'.
I agree.scott was the heart,the leader and intimidator.
The trap enabled Stevens to set up those hits in my opinion. Much like a linebacker setting up for a hit on those crossing routes.
Hey hockey dude, here's why Marty Brodeur is the best goalie. cuz He was good. I'm a Devils fan and I never say he's the best, a lot of Devils fans do. Like I was playing NHL Hits at school (It was the end of the year so I brought my game cube to play in this one class) last year and some kid was like "I'm gonna play with the Avalanche and use the 2nd best goalie ever" I just find it cringey that he said that.
There's a reason why they call Glen Hall Mr Hockey. He was great. I think he was the true best goallie ever. Inventing the Butterfly and totally changing what goalies would become.
Second for me is Hasek. The guy literally... Not Figuratively played on his head. Nobody since or before Hasek did what he did
Third is Roy because he became bigger as the games started to matter more. He was the first of the true Butterfly goalies that trained and fully used the Butterfly the way it should and he was flashy. He made sure you know where the puck was when he caught it. He made goaltending exiting.
Fourth is Brodeur. Look Brodeur was big. He was good but I swear he couldn't step on the ice properly with the size of pads he had on. Not saying that Roy didn't have big pads later in his career but he didn't have it late. Brodeur also didn't have the quality of shots that Roy and Hasek had to face every night.
Gabriel Matte I have a really hard time comparing them. It seems like Brodeur and Hasek played different positions. They both were awesome and did their job as close to perfect as they could, but I would hate myself for putting one above the other. I put Roy at #1.
Hall I don't have in the top but there's a reason for that. Hall was the first. He didn't have anyone to draw off of. All the butterfly goalies after Hall could draw from previous goalies to fine tune their game. So Hall was not as good, but it's not his fault. He is the most innovative goalie of all time, closely followed by Hasek. He changed the game forever, But I don't think he is #1 all time. That's just me.
John Collins - I put Hasek above Brodeur because he did it without a great team most of his career. Hasek carried the Sabers to a finals. Brodeur didn't carry the Devils the trap did
Gabriel Matte Yeah fair enough I can definitely agree there. The '99 sabres were really just Hasek and then some above average hockey players. I can't see us getting out of the second round without Hasek playing the way he did
Seeing Joe Sakic juke the shit out Scott Stevens in 2001 finals was awesome 😎
Next up:
2000-01 Avalanche
2001-02 Red Wings
2002-03 Devils
2003-04 Lightning
2005-06 Hurricanes
2006-07 Ducks
2007-08 Red Wings
2008-09 Penguins
2009-10 Blackhawks
2010-11 Bruins
2011-12 Kings
2012-13 Blackhawks
2013-14 Kings
2014-15 Blackhawks
2015-16 & 2016-17 Penguins.
2017-2018 New York Rangers
ShantyIrishman Weighing more towards the Flyers or Oilers, but Rangers is an acceptable answer.
YAOmighty - Gaming and More Flyers??😂😂 No cup but maybe playoffs
ShantyIrishman you're a funny man.
Hahahaha. Serious? Okay lets just give everyone that made the final and lost a Stanley Cup LMAO
devils are going to be a hell of a team in a couple years, between cap space and prospects them, arizona and carolina are gonna be relevant again soon
I'm not offended hg. Steven's absolutely was the heart and soul. They followed him every night. That philly series was a true big boy series.
Hey THG, What are the percentages of Elias making the hall of fame. For me it's 75%
Lewis Leibo He deserves it but won't get there for a while. Playing for a defensive, small market team isn't ideal. But 1000 pts, 400 goals, 2 cups and over 20 years with the Devils is more than deserving of a HoF spot.
I respect your opinion but I like marty a little more then roy.i watched those teams and marty was awesome in that playoffs.
What do you think of Ken Dryden? Because his stats says he is basically a god. But he also played behind arguable the best defense core ever. Like he was obviously great, but is he as good as his stats?
I looved john madden and bobby holik.
Was this the last in the series, are you continuing with 2001 and forward?
+Peter Grant Yep, just been a hectic week.
I think marty and roy were the two best ever.i put hasek a little behind those two.yes marty had a great defense in front of him but he made big saves at big times.
LGD 🔥🔥🔥🔥
How you don't win the cup with a .941 save percentage?
+Nick Leblanc That Pens team wasn't a scoring bunch.
Gomez was great in jersey
i base my opinion on the fact that you have one Devils jersey. and its a Kovalchuk.
Oliwa was Polish, that's why the name is so complicated.
I like how the first 2 and half minutes of this video Shannon smack talks brodeur for being overrated and how Scott stevens was a dirty player 😆
Height of the Leigon Of Doom? Lindros played 2 games, and Renberg didn't play at all for Philly. Was more of Leclair and Recchi dominating
Revisit the 2011 boston bruins
Love u
How do you lose with a 941 save percentage lol
Alex Pitti Being on the Penguins before 2009 does that to you.
I don’t know many NJ fans who would be offended by you calling Stevens the heart and soul. If they disagree, it’ll probably be in favor of Danekyo
This fucking hurts
do a vid about acc name change
Devils aside the Canucks will be better than the Leafs and the Oilers in 2-3 seconds
Connor McDavid Devils aside, the Thrashers will be better than the Whalers in 2-3 seconds
Devils aside, team Kazakhstan will be better than the Leafs and the Oilers in 2-3 seasons.
Connor McDavid the Canucks won't be a team then
2-3 seconds aside, the Devils Oilers and Canucks are NHL teams in the hockey league of North America
You have a video where you say brodeur is barely top 10, if that....
how dirty do think lemieux was?
like i said in the '96 video he is the dirtest player ive ever seen....
There is no "c" in Patrik Elias
Lotta snifflin
Who?
I heartily agree with you that *St. Patrick* and *The Dominator* were better than Marty
And yes, *Scotty Stevens* was the heart and soul of the Devils when he was there and one of the *greatest captains* the game has ever seen
Flyers blew a 3-1 lead
I thought canadians say "zed" not "zee"?
As a Devils fan i can admit Hasek was the best his numbers are insane
+yotta93 meister - All due respect fellow Devils fan, but numbers aren't the only thing that matters when it comes to goaltending; SV% doesn't illustrate quality of goals allowed or _when_ they were allowed. For example, let's say you make 40 saves but the 2 goals you let in were game tying or game winning or just softies; doesn't that have an adverse impact on the result of the game regardless of the fact that 2 goals in 42 shots means you're posting a .952 SV%? How about durability and longevity? How about impact on the defense and offense via your style of play in net? How about his impact on the game of hockey itself? How about chemistry with your team and coaches? How about how many times your name is on the NHL All-Time record book? All of these qualities AKA "the big picture", should be considered when evaluating a goaltender's greatness.
phi blew a 3-1 lead.
Hasek was better IMO
That's not even funny ... the life altering damages evoked by Stevens. It's not a joke to intentionally bring harm to someone. Let alone in a sporting 'game'. He and Hasek were/are sociopaths.
Lol why u so mad
1 Glen Hall
2 Hasek
3 Roy
4 Brodeur.
I put Mr Goalie there because he invented the Butterfly. He is the reason for the way goaler is played today. Anybody that ever seen Hasek play would know why he is second. The guy was unreal and made saves that nobody had any business saving. Roy is third for the simple reason he was the first true fully trained butterfly goalie. He was flashy and made sure that people know he made the save. Finally Brodeur... He didn't have the quality of shots that Roy and Hasek had to face for starters and anybody that watched him play at the same time as Roy and Hasek the eye test told you everything you needed to know.
Brodeur did score a beauty of a goal against Montreal. I was a Montreal Fan back then and it pissed me off but it was the type of game he played
I don't disagree with you but I will say Marty was a vastly superior puck handler and, I think, a more cerebral goalie. He made a lot of outlet passes and constantly broke up the dump in of the opposing team. He was very smart about when to go out and play the puck, starting the rush up ice with a beautiful pass and when to challenge the shooter. His puck handling is the main reason he didn't face a ton of shots. He had a great defense in front of him but he also shut down a lot of dump ins and got the puck moving in the other direction before the opposing team could do anything. They had to change the rules just to take away that advantage because Marty was so good. Roy and Hasek can't make that claim.
Marty = GOAT. fact, sorrry.
Devils: 3 Stanley Cups, Canucks: 0 Stanley Cups. I know where the hate comes. Marty Brodeur is somewhere in Barbados shaking his head.
hanzifaction or it may be the trap
+Connor's Sports Talk - *The neutral zone trap:* The go-to weapon of choice by those who desire to discredit Martin Brodeur's greatness. Ironically, If people really knew how the Trap defense worked then they'd never use it against Martin Brodeur. Martin Brodeur was the main reason why the trap was as successful as it was in NJ. Many teams, past and present, utilize the neutral zone trap and it is not some magical defensive scheme that spawns 3-time Stanley Cup winning teams like some seem to believe. The difference between other neutral zone trap teams, and New Jersey, was Brodeur's remarkable puck handling skills. In case you're unfamiliar, the neutral zone trap essentially forces teams to dump the puck in from the neutral zone due to a 4-man clog in the neutral zone and just 1 forechecker. When the dump would inevitably occur, Brodeur would then use his stick handling skills and make outlet passes, immediately putting the Devils back on the attack while completely inhibiting the opposing team from establishing a strong forecheck. Instead of Brodeur stopping shots, he was stopping the scoring/shooting chances altogether by handling the puck, while simultaneously creating a scoring opportunity for his team. If all of Marty's greatness was due to him playing behind the neutral zone trap, why haven't other teams such as the 2000-2009 Minnesota Wild (who were coached during those 9 years by none other, than the neutral zone trap guru, Jacques Lemaire), produced a legendary goalie? Where's all of the easy wins? The Vezinas? The Stanley Cups? How about Guy Boucher's Lightning from 2010 through 2013? Or His Senators last season? How did the trap defense work out for those team's success and their goaltenders? Martin Brodeur was the reason the neutral zone trap was as successful as it was in New Jersey due to his ability to be a 3rd defensemen, limit shots against, and completely neuter opposing team's offensive zone time and forecheck.
As for using shot totals as a way to diminish Marty's greatness, it doesn't work. Why? Because Marty himself, was the primary reason his shot totals were low. Crediting goalies for stopping shots but Discrediting Brodeur for stopping opportunities altogether is called flawed logic.
Im not saying he was bad I never even mentioned him. I pointed out why some people may dislike them is based on the trap
MB30 GOAT Thanks bruh. Devils must stick together!
Look at highlights alone and Hasek and Roy totally passed the eye test when Brodeur clearly isn't in that league.
Parking lot party
ShantyIrishman while you were on the bathroom floor crying
Arnott sucked when he was on the Devils the second time. He couldn't skate.