I personally think he should've opened up to the world about his skin condition during his 1986 award speech. I'm sure the public, especially the fans would understand. It would've been a weight off his shoulders, and it would raise awareness on Vitiligo. Something like this can be very traumatic, and you can see the sadness in his eyes during those years trying to cover it. Unfortunately he was very private and insecure, which led to the media starting rumors of their own
No one believed him when he spoke the truth. He aways said, people wanted to hear fantastic news or bad news. The truth can be boring. Love you Michael.
It was probably too late by the late 80s as the media had already made up its mind he was a freak, so no one would have believed a word he said. After he disclosed it in '93, it wasn't until his death that the mainstream opinion shifted towards believing he had it. Perhaps there was a small window of opportunity in the early 80s, but it looks like the condition hadn't developed enough yet; and even then they would probably have written trash like "he claims to have vitiligo, but it was really just a ruse to cover up the fact he was about to turn white" or some other rubbish. You can't win against a propaganda machine that's hell bent on making you look bad. And that's beside the point that health matters are private, and one is not obliged to disclose them in public, although we can agree in this case it was a sensible and practical thing to do.
Trust me, the public would have not been compassionate and understanding when it came to Michael. They would have done anything to destroy his reputation since they were so intimidated by his success as a black man. Even after he did admit he had a skin condition in 1993, it was not followed by kindness from the public. So his admission was definitely not a load off his back. The fans would have understood for sure. We have and will always support him. ❤️
I think people often forget he was the most famous person pretty much on the planet. Imagine dealing with several conditions whilst already being insecure from your family teasing you whilst going on stage whilst having millions of people constantly watching you. I mean you would have to be Jesus himself in order to take the amount criticism Michael took. 99 percent of people would completely break in his situation
Exactly. Some people can be hypocrites. Most of the people who criticized him for his skin disorder would have done the same thing if they were in his position. Some celebrities these days bleach their skin for fun and beautification purposes, those are the kind of people that should be criticized but no, it is someone with two skin diseases that cannot be cured easily they are still ranting about.
I remember as kids, my siblings and I sat around the tv awaiting the world premiere of Black Or White. We were surprised at how much different he looked at first (Compared to the Thriller and Bad Era), but we were happy that he was back with new music and videos and didn't focus on the lighter skin tone. (He always looked cool no matter what!) That's the way Michael wanted it to be, that we enjoyed and appreciated his talent first and foremost.
Remember that premiere too. I actually don't think he look that much different in that video to the BAD era except for the hair style and suttle make up changes.. He still had some complexion. It was Remember the Time where it was more noticeable to me. The Black or White video was an event though! Half the world stopped to watch that. 3ven remember trailers/adverts in the UK leading up to it
@@jbassey231 I felt exactly the same. I remember when Black Or White aired on TOTPs the skin tone didn't shock me too much. I was more obsessed with how he turned into a black panther 😂 ( I was only 4). Then when he toured over in UK the media just focused on his face.
@@darylallmanful 😂 We're the same age! I watched it on TOTPs too! I remember the weeks leading up to it airing they were showing the advert with MJ walking through the fire... I used to run to my babysitter for a hug every time it came on coz I was so scared 🤣 Funny coz that video is what made me a Michael Jackson fan from then on.. That and Moonwalker coming on TV about a month later....
Woah, I never looked at the Black or White music video this way. I was born in '95 so it's before my time but this is great info to know of the past. Thanks for sharing.
I must give major respect to The Detail as this platform is the ultimate example of professional journalism, (literally) detailed researched information and respect for Michael Jackson himself. There's no gimmicks, zero sensationalism, embellishments, slick cheap shots or personal opinions about the person for whom is being discussed that is Mr. Jackson. There's caring involved in this content and it shows. I appreciate this channel so much. Respect on all levels.
Man, vitiligo is an awful thing to have. And I’m saying this from first hand experience. Covers at least 60% of my legs arms and face. My hands and feet are now 100% white. The changes began to happen about 16 years ago, and showing now signs of stopping completely(although it has slowed). Some people deal with it better than others. But I can imagine how difficult it must’ve been for MJ to go through it at a time when he was the most famous person on the planet. I can comprehend why he decided to make other changes overtime. But those decisions were made by a man not thinking with a great deal of clarity. May he rest in peace 🙏🏾
Aw sorry to hear, i can imagine it being a stressful time in your life especially being black. But yes MJ on an international stage I imagine it was a terrible time for his mental health.
Michael had vitiligo. It was on his autopsy report. It was listed very high up on the report which means it was readily visible to the eye. It was one of the first things noted. It was his choice on how to treat it, no one else's. It was his business, no one else's. Besides it doesn't matter what shade a person's skin is. As Michael himself said a person should be judged by the content of their character not the shade of their skin. And the content of Michael' s character was impeccable.
Probably one of the nicest human beings to ever walk the earth he never ever judged any one, and even when he was accused of sexually abuse he never blamed the children that's just how great he was and will always be known as a shining beacon of wisdom.
Exactly, I really agree with you. Everything you wrote is just my opinion as well. It's so personal and private. This man had no privacy at all. Everybody had to tell him what to do, it's awful. Since he was a 5 year old child he only had to do what other people told him. He had no freedom of choice. And who cares? He can decide for himself what treatment he wanted or if he wanted to keep his medical records private. Why should he tell EVERYTHING to the public and that he should have justified every step in his life. Nobody does that.
To Jean, Hannah and Lucas......I agree with all 3 of you and appreciate your comments. As a huge fan of Michael and admirer of Michael the human being, I personally get in my feelings when ppl talk poorly of him, judge him and call him names. Plastic surgeries or no plastic surgery, vitiligo, BS rumors about his character....I hate and it hurts my heart how he was in such pain emotionally and physically. He had vitiligo....I’m my mind....so what. Ppl don’t take the time to think about him being called names by his own father and those that claimed to love him hurt him by their words when the only thing he gave us other than great music....was his love. For whatever reason he chose not to share his disorder with the public, that was his business and his business alone. I don’t care if his skin was turning transparently clear like glass. Why is it such an issue? An issue then and still an issue now. Besides, who would want to share when you’re already being verbally beaten at every corner he turned. I remember the exact day he passed and where I was. At that time I was on the medical staff in a local jail. I was in a room with somewhere around 75 new arrests for the day. One man waiting to be processed yelled out “Yo yo yo......Everybody STFU....Michael is dead!!!!”. All the TVs were turned up to the max and I’ll tell you, the room literally went from men yelling, cursing out officers, etc to where you could hear a pin drop. No exaggeration. Complete silence. All you could hear was the tv. The announcement of his passing interrupted the regular program that was on. Like a severe weather advisement or a message from the President. Numerous ppl (staff and inmates) began crying, myself included. Dudes that were being combative with guards just simply stopped. Everyone was put in holding booking cells without a single disturbance. They were asked to go into the cells and every last one of them did so like “obedient children”. It was like time froze. This man was loved and adored yet was also judged, criticized, betrayed and extorted. I pray he is resting well. 🕊🙏🏽❤️💔
@@Snyper1405 Exactly! He was and will always be the greatest musician and dancer in the world. There won't be any artist who comes even close to his talent!
He was criminally misunderstood because of his condition....People like to judge because they're not experiencing it.....As a human being and a black man, I can't never know how he felt going through all the BS, I can only feel bad
@@cube5750 Well, back then the world wasn't as acceptance like it is now and when he did come out about his condition but he mocked and laughed at for it
Michael Jackson was perfect with both dark and light skin .... as a child when I watched his videos I didn't notice any difference he could be light or dark for me he was always unique the greatest and still is.👑
Michael had always a great style and class, and he always looked very attractive. His style was often so perfectly creative to his music and dance. He was genius in creativity and in his appearance and his choices of clothes. He always had his own unique style. I love him, no matter what skin tone he had.
@@saywhat303 Little jealous??? Oh... poor "Say What" is not famous and wealthy! Jealous of Michael's success? Only men are doing such comments, that's weird!
the last quote of michael's brother describing his vitiligo was painful too hear...the fact that everyone still chooses to believe that michael wanted to be white TO THIS DAY shocks me, he was way too precious for this world. love how informative this video is, i hope many see it so they are educated about his skin condition
i believe that many white/non-black people gain personal satisfaction from the idea that he wanted to be white/became white. the notion being he was too great to be "just black"
The obsession with his skin colour is excessive, so much speculation. I stopped watching after the narrator "undiagnosed" the red butterfly blotches which are often early indicators of lupus.
It doesn't matter if you black or white, but seemingly it did matter if you black and white. But in all seriousness. I'm sorry you had that trial MJ. The world still loves you just as you were. Still. Just wish you'd have been able to look past the flaws and be happy as you were. May you rest in peace and may we see you again one day.
I can’t stress enough how spot on you guys are with helping some of us fans crack the code to questions and feelings we’ve had for decades. The fact you even bring up how he looks brown off stage Vs light skinned on stage in the mid to late 80s truly shows how embedded you guys are to us fans. Because we all tried to make sense of it and find better understanding as well.
Thank you! I have felt the same and spoken to many fans about these aspects of Michael Jackson’s evolving look. I hope the next video will give further clarity on this most controversial of issues
@@thedetail. There are videos on TH-cam of Michael dancing with Emmanuel Lewis and dancing after the Pepsi accident. In those videos the vitiligo is apparent on his arms. I’d love to hear your take on those 🙂
Tbh very honest. It’s always 1985 that makes me question of whether or not he played a bigger part in turning lighter. By 87 he still was very bronze. Which means the disease didn’t progress. But I’m 85, his skin looked lightened, not make up, but skin deep lightened. Which could mean he may have bleached his skin, with the contributing vitiligo over time. Either that or he just used darker toned make up at times through Out the mid to late 80s.
She sat and cried. How much purity and love was in these songs. Almost all texts are about love for children. His voice, so gentle and charming, which does not speak, but cries about human cruelty, anger and hatred! Michael broadcasts that he is not omnipotent, but will do everything possible in this world to make it cleaner, brighter and happier. Thank you dear for being with us. You continue to live in our hearts!
It’s crazy cause growing up as a kid we never thought about it. It never crossed my mind that he looked different from Thriller to Bad, he was still Michael Jackson. Even now showing my 4 yr old daughter his videos she’s never asked why does he look different. She just knows that’s the King of Pop, Michael Jackson. I think there’s a beauty in that no matter how he looked we just saw him!
Yup exactly!! His aura is Michael through and through. I was introduced to Mike in the very early 2000s but never questioned his tone. He always looked like himself light or dark lol
@@Akumaten1 No, he has a right of privacy! He doesn't has to do anything. Everybody should have the right to live their lives as they want to live their lives. He had the same rights as you, to do his own life decisions.
@@hannaz4617 True, but when you have a career like HIS, in a world like THIS--You can't afford to do that. Thats the Price of Fame... You cant keep a private life AND simultaneously be in front of the spotlight with such a startling visual transformation...Lets just keep it 💯 Cant happen.
@@Akumaten1 You can to a certain degree. I know that Vanessa Paradis, her children, Rod Stewart, Ringo Star, Mariah Carey...... they keep their privacy and their popularity and professional life pretty separate. In Michael's case it was the false accusations, the hate, greed and jealousy that made people go into his private life. The media used every little detail to put Michael down or to do any negative reports. The media was paid by big people of the entertainment industry for any negative reports. Michael's doctor in Ireland said in an interview he was offered a 6 numbered amount of money if he would give any negative information to the press. People like Weinstein, Epstein, Geffen, they wanted to see Michael in court. On one hand he would lose so much money that he had to sell his ATV music catalog and on the other hand the sensationalism would distract the media to find out about the crimes of the real criminals. I have to say, it was sad to watch, very sad!
All the changes with Michael Jackson's features, his immense shyness and comments he made both verbally and in writing about himself makes me sad about the world in general. He's just a more famous example of how people are forced to hate who they are and what they look like. The way they are born. The qualities and features that make each of us unique. This society has a mission to not allow people to be comfortable in their own skin. Love you Michael.
Body Dysmorphia combined with vittiligo and very judgemental public is a bad combination. As a person who has body dysmorphia tons of people commenting on my appearance would be my worst nightmare.
@@Chelaxim Michael had no body dysmorphia, that's an old rumor. He was an artist and he was exactly doing what artists are doing, they change their appearance according to their music, they are creating the character. They have to perform and in order to be successful they need to look attractive. Michael was all his life a very attractive men. You can just guess how many female would have loved it to be with Michael. Your comment dysmorphia is taken out of lexicon. I can tell you that all actors and musicians would have dysmorphia. If Jennifer Lopez is getting her injection in her whole body, face, her fillers and botox, her hair extension, eyelash extensions, her permanent makeup and cosmetic changes she would have dysmorphia as well, the same with the Kardashians, Brad Pitt, Leonardo di Caprio, Amber Heard, Angelina Jolie, Elizabeth Taylor, Paul Mc Cartney........the list is endless!
@@hannaz4617 Body dysmorphia is when you have an addiction to getting dangerous procedures. It is when you lack the mental strength to value your own health higher than your want of changing looks. For example, Michael’s nose jobs. He was never satisfied with it and kept getting revisions despite the health complications. Same goes with his abuse of prescription bleaching creams. Bleaching creams are NOT meant to be used forever. They are prescribed to help even out your skin tone. By 1991 Michael’s skin was already overall pale so when police found 28 tubes of prescription bleaching creams in his room in 2009 that is indicative he was abusing bleaching creams despite the serious health risks. None if your examples are celebrities with body dysmorphia. Getting some work done initially in your early career and regular botox / facials is not the same as continuing to jeopardize your health forever
I have a theory that even though he genetically had vitiligo, the whole issue got out of hand after the Pepsi burn which put him in enormous stress which may have accelerated the process
@@kodeinekowboy3750 If you have medium to dark colored skin and you burn yourself on an area of your body bad enough, that area can lose some of its pigment.
Fact checked, stress can seriously exacerbate vitiligo. It makes sense to me now because my dad had vitiligo, his right leg had a large patch of lighter skin and over the years his legs slowly lost a lot of pigmentation but other parts of him remained largely melanated.
Poor guy, he had many things going for him like his extreme talent and wealth but he was also disadvantaged by his numerous health conditions and life traumas, I honestly feel bad for him. He was a big part of my childhood and his music still inspires me as a 29 year old man. I hope if there is a heaven he's performing for all the people up there, I love you Michael.
For people who are saying they are insecure about their skin tones is okay. You don’t have to change to be lighter or darker we are created the shade given. People like Micheal had a skin condition meaning he had no other choice but to even the tone out with makeup to match the color his skin was getting or in other words kept the natural vitiligo look. We all are beautiful human beings luv u all❤️also pls do not tan or bleach every single time if you choose to lighten or darken ur skin it causes skin cancer.
It’s not possible to bleach the skin n change skin color, it’s just market… you can use creams used by Michael only if you have vitiligo, that should be prescribed by your doctor
Of course he had a choice. He could have said "I'm going to let them see the real Michael Jackson" but he didn't trust his fans to accept his real skin.
@@magicmermaidasmr Yes i believe the cream they found at Michael's house only works if you have vitiligo. When i googled vitiligo treatments that cream is one of them. Guess which one was listed as the number one treatment and the most common? Makeup!
I remember being so confused when I saw Michael in his later years. At the time, I had only seen the Thriller music video. My mom explained his skin disease.
Lmao I was born in 90, and it was the opposite when I first seen younger Michael from the Jackson 5. I was 3, and my mom told me Michael was coming on TV. I was so confused when I seen the young black Michael I became upset, and thought she lied to me LMAO 🤣
As a kid I use to think there was 2 michael Jackson’s cause of the drastic change in his appearance. I have an uncle who has dealt with vitiligo all their life .
I do believe that Michael did have vitiligo but I also think he lightened his skin just even out the blotches he may have had. Which I don’t blame him for doing.
he only did it to his hands and arms. i’m pictures in 2003 you can still still his vitiligo spots on his legs meaning he didn’t permanently bleach his skin
For someone so blessed with extraordinary talent Michael Jackson was beat up by life. I pray he is finally at peace. People should have asked questions concerning his talent instead of obsessing obsessing over his appearance. Thank you Michael. Rest in peace
He might be that but let’s keep it a buck, he worshipped whiteness. Even vitiligo aside, he changed his hair from naturally coily to straight & altered his natural nose. Invited mostly white kids to his ranch, married a white woman, later arranged for another one to legally marry & adopt him two white children who are now heirs to his estate. People can deny it all they want but the man wasn’t that proud of his roots despite what he said in interviews. A person’s actions tell you more than their words.
You have to think bro he is a big international superstar and the media and world was less accepting he has to do it honestly. Ignorant people don't believe he had it even though it's evidence 👑💯 love you mike
I found his statement to Oprah to be the most truthful thing he may have ever said about his skin, when he says something like "people don't care when others tan to become other than what they are". I read into that statement as a confession of sorts. I really don't care if he lied, did or didn't have vitiligo, he should do what makes him happy, at the end of the day it really is nobody's business if he bleached his skin or not.
@@thedetail. could it be that Michael had Vitiligo of some form. And he went to the deep end of using depigmentation when it may not have been necessary? I never seen a picture of MJ with patches from the 80s. Like not on fingers or anything. Just self conscious and fame, and media scrutiny? He actually looked better when he wore minimal or no makeup in the late 80s Bad Era
If you love one version of Michael Jackson (be it the Bad era or the Thriller era or the Jackson 5 era or the HIStory era etc, etc) you love all versions of Michael Jackson. Its strange but true.
I grew up in the 80s on Michael Jackson and didn’t know anything about plastic surgery, vitiligo etc…. I just remember when the bad album came out and saw his pic on that album. We were all like “wow, what happened to Michael?” As late as 1989 and 1990, I remember Bad concert footages where he looked just like Thriller and Off the Wall MJ after he sweated off the makeup or whatever he had on - and there were no pale spots anywhere. His face structure was changing though with his plastic surgeries (chin implants, nose etc) But he def did something in the early 90s that permanently changed his pigmentation. I think he was a troubled man with self image issues vitiligo or not. I was an obsessed young MJ fan and probably too young to comprehend whatever was going on. The greatest performer ever anyway. RIP.
He started having the patches during the thriller era , so yeah it definitely took more than 3-4 years for drastic change in skin colour, those acne creams and spf left a white base , and definately worsened the state of his skin . That redness on his face looked like he had harshly exfoliated his face probably due to acne insecurities he had , or had a terrible reaction to some product. It's sad that the vitiligo skipped one generation in his family and Michael was the only one who had the worst of it , Jermaine had on his thigh , and clearly it didn't spread that much lucky for him .
@@WILL_aka_TROID . That possibility was discussed in the video, the rashes from lupus patients were compared, it was kind of different on his face . The skin definitely looked irritated with a bit of inflammation.
@@dmer-zy3rb . It was both , she was naturally lighter than her siblings and used lighter makeup , tbh there weren't many options for dark skin foundations back then , still today not many brands who claim to be inclusive have options for darker complexions.
Ive heard snippets of him describing these horrrible interactions with the public as he was transitioning from a 'cute little kid' into a man and the reactions to his acne he had to deal with sounded nothing short of traumatic. It would not surprise me if he got the Chemical peels for his acne and then that plus the emotional trauma triggered the vitiligo. A lesson is to be learned here.. never be ashamed of your body no matter what. As long as one is taking good care of it anything else is to be worn as a badge of honor. 🔥
It wasn't as outspoken then, im white and have vitiligo so it's not as recognizable. But it covers my legs and arm pits as well as other parts of my body. It has come out more recently and has been more acceptable. I cant imagine what Michael went through, In front of the world.
Seriously. For someone who let him tell it was proud to be black, he certainly didn't do much to look dark. I know he had vitiligo but still why purposely try to look lighter ?
That WAS makeup. Michael's makeup artist and some of the photographers who did his photoshoots have stated that Michael was is FULL body makeup during that time.
@@JPX64Channel Yeah he "didn't do much" Thats why he was wearing full body makeup to stay brown right? Lets see you use full body makeup every day of your life and then you can judge.
@@CCI320 i mean i get it he was full on makeup, but it doesnt make a lot of sense that he looked whiter in the actual concerts but darker in private footage??? like he was using brown makeup for private stuff and whiter makeup for concerts and video shootings?
It is different when you are not in the spotlight, Michael was so famous and all eyes of the whole world were on him.No wonder he wanted to look perfect, I really feel sorry for him these tabloids were picking on every aspect of his life. He had so many health conditions to fight with plus he was a very sensitive person and he still kept going.I love you Michael. Thank you@The Detail for another amazing video and creating great MJ fans community. Can’t wait for the next video 🙂
The eyes of the whole world were not on him. How many records did he sell? There are 8 billion people on this planet. Most of them don't listen to him.
Michael Jackson is the strongest person I know, he was a genius yet he had too many hurdles to jump, his health, his choices, nobody could ever do all that in 50 years! Black or white he looked cool, and his videos are beautiful, I will always love him no matter what!
He also had lupus…which often times gives the patient a reddish butterfly rash. So he might have also been using make up to conceal the rash as well. People tend to judge when they don’t know the underlying conditions that people might be suffering!
@@RA82828 But wouldn't bleach give an even blush all over the face? What is the name of the bleach you are you referring to? And what is the name of the hairtreatment you say can give the same result? (I don't want to use it!)
@@thedetail. You did not. you suggested he may not have had the molar rash from lupus when his doctors have confirmed he did. You tried to suggest his red cheeks were from bleaching or "harsh treatments". You are not fooling me.
I bet it was weird af being a MJ fan back in the 80s and seeing in real time how his complexion changed after Thriller. Being a 96 baby and growing up with the Invincible era MJ. I thought he was a white man until I saw the Thriller MV later on. It’s so sad that such a kind hearted soul had to deal with so much issues throughout his lifetime and many of it being out of his control
As a child, I didn't understand much, but MJ's skin was very normal to me. I never thought negatively about it. I just accepted what he looked liked in each era because he was still Michael Jackson
I thought he was the first person transracial person. It was a "wait and see what he does next" thing. Reminds me of Pee Wee Herman, or Richard Simmons.
2:06 the picture in the right was edited by myself back in 2018, I explained I did that with the purpose of explaining how his vitiligo would look like if he had no makeup on. So it was already known it is an edited picture, and not meant to be used as a real one, but many fans did, that's why you said it was "debunked".
Well, I believe it's an edit, I don't believe that vitiligo spreads like that. more like foundation cream. did you edit the other michael photos too? like the photo when he wears a green shirt and reads the newspaper? sorry if my grammar is bad🙏
I grew up with Michael's music I don't care what he did or didn't do on the outside. I watched him because I loved his talent and his heart was kind . He had enough pain he didn't need to be judged for his looks, just for his King of Pop talent and he wore it to the fullest.
7:50 - 9:40 woah, insane how you found this information. In my 13+ years of studying and obsessing over this man I didn't know about this period of time and how his skin color truly looked
When it comes to skin lighting I think michael was saying he didn't just do it to be white, I think I was trying to say he did it because he had to. Thriller Michael jackson is a mad handsome guy btw!
I agree! Michael was a really handsome and attractive Black man! I love Thriller 💘 Best way to describe his pov is: he was Michael Jackson (his trauma, his individuality) with vitiligo in a race-obsessed America. Like others, he used the FDA-approved treatment as medication. That means he'd didn't "bleach" his skin because the creams were prescribed by doctors that diagnosed & treated his vitiligo (and Lupus). All of this has been verified many times over, with candid/private pictures & even at his death. You also have to put the time period into perspective & all of the race obstacles that he triumphantly overcame. Michael didn't have the best relationship with his family & he was private. He may have had substance abuse issues but he was human & trusted people that didn't always have the best intentions! None of us know him personally but one thing's for sure is it was his skin, his body & life ultimately. This video did a good job but it glossed over Michael's experience of being Black. If you really did your research you'd see that his transformation wasn't until 20 years after his diagnosis in the 1980's and he still had patches of brown skin. A lot of people simply take pleasure in mocking the "irony" and projecting their insecurities & racism. Overall, Michael is king ✨🎶
He is the mirror,of the universe…No nudity or bullshit ,just a properly dressed gu sitting on a stool for three minutes, singing with his amazing voice..He is, beyond all time ,an angelic heart,the only thing that saddens me is that we have not been able to hold him..Thank you for KİNG MJJ🎩
That is so sad, I can’t even imagine going through what he had to endure, please let’s not judge another unless you walk a mile in their shoes, unless you went through what he did, you’ll never really understand how he felt, the toll it took on him, and just to bring himself some level of comfort, what he did to relieve and/or escape it. I can only say, wow what strength of character he has, especially knowing that he would never be a white man no matter what. Personally I think that he should have been even more proud of himself, for overcoming. Rest In Peace. Mr. Jackson, rip, what a hell of a life you had.
@gamingassassin6669 just because his autopsy said he had vitiligo doesn't mean that he truly had it. They could have simply put down that he had vitiligo due to certain areas of uneven skin that could have been a result of bleaching and NOT vitiligo. I don't know if he truly had that skin condition.. however it is suspicious that I never seen ANY spots when he would go shirtless during thriller era, bad era and during the 90s...
just because his autopsy said he had vitiligo doesn't mean that he truly had it. They could have simply put down that he had vitiligo due to certain areas of uneven skin that could have been a result of bleaching and NOT vitiligo. I don't know if he truly had that skin condition.. however it is suspicious that I never seen ANY spots when he would go shirtless during thriller era, bad era and during the 90s...
Let’s not forget his father used to say to him that he was “too black” and had a “huge nose”. It doesn’t surprise me in the least even though it is deeply heartbreaking that he carried those words with him always and they distorted his self image forever, making him change his appearance so much. It wasn’t a race thing as it was a colorism thing. He saw nothing wrong with being black in itself but rather his own complexion because his father put that into his brain at a young age. RIP 🤍
His father verbally abused him for his looks, he had a hard time accepting his own looks by drastically changing then, of coarse, people would think that he had bleached his skin. It is what it is. He was still admired for his music. It is what it is.
You can't even bleach your skin that white. It's impossible. Even the most affective treatments today in 2023 will make make your sin as white as Michael's. People who believe the bleaching nonsense are idiots. Period.
Don't even care what color he is. He's still the Michael Jackson. We should actually be happy because he gained confidence and no longer anxious to his condition.
White supremacy is a helluva drug. Colourism is all about proximity to whiteness whether in communities of African descent or communities of South Asian descent.
He only revealed that to his mother and sister, Janet. Janet knew all along as they were the closest siblings. Their mother, Katherine Jackson once mentioned how he at one point confessed about it to her in mid 80s in their family home and also to Janet, when she was around 22.
My older sis has vitiligo and lupus. My mom found a patch on her eye when she was 12. No one could figure this out and this was the damn 80's. She wasn't diagnosed with Lupus until 1998 after my nephew's death. Hers is noticeable, but my sister is lighter in skin tone than both Winnie and Michael. No matter how you want to see it, no one understands something like vitiligo and Lupus. He was treated like a freak by the media. Why would he want to tell them the truth when he did and they still didn't believe him. I don't blame him. He didn't have to hate himself. With the world and his father constantly being on his case about his looks, vitiligo and the debilitating disease that Lupus is, were not a help for someone with a deeply scared mental view of himself. No one needs to fess up about anything. I was young when his skin was fully white and I never said anything and I was born in 96. It could be bc of my sister, but I was never interested in his looks as much as his music and the videos. He was still a black man to me. The same thing he told people many of times and they still thought this man wanted to be white. So I don't blame him at all. They wouldn't listen then, why keep repeating yourself?
@@kelfx2853 Thank you. I just think it would be common sense. My sister unfortunately died from it after my comment. It's just people need to look at everything. He said it, they didn't believe him, he was a freak to them. But he was supposed to trust them? It's annoying. Just leave it alone. It didn't make a difference, he's dead now, just leave it alone. You know the answer. No, he wasn't obligated to tell a soul. No one is.
Please don't ignore me 🙏🏾. Sometimes it's very annoying people still talking more crap about Michael's change appearance and his skin. It's sad and really shocks me my heart. I'm not the biggest super fan of MJ, I don't listen his music and idolizing him but I never believed he had self hate issue and I never believed he was guilty as sin for hurting children like that. I believe he's innocent. Michael was always black on his life because God gave him born in black. He was born black man and died African American. No matter he will always be the king of music
@@kelfx2853 yeah people are ignorant when it comes to Michael Jackson. It shouldn't be a debate. Even he considered himself black until the end of his life.
I feel so pained for Michael though he's no more. I can imagine what he went through. I've happened to have disliked myself alot too and tried dealing with my insecurities by myself. I've been mocked at for having more or less of some parts of my body and it's been so traumatizing that at times I don't want to step out of the house. Seeing how courageous he was dealing with his shows despite the critics really encourages me. To an extent I think maybe he was bullied if not he won't have noticed the changes, and that's why he took the initiative of changing alot on his skin.
Com certeza durante os primeiros anos do vitiligo a pele dele devia voltar ao "normal" retomando a cor e depois clareando novamente, acho que com o tempo as manchas avançaram e acabou sendo muito mais fácil assumir o tom mais pálido, Michael sempre cobria o corpo o máximo que podia, sempre usando chapéu, óculos, maquiagem, é muito triste que ainda hoje as pessoas ainda continuem a fazer piadas com a aparência dele, ele fez o que podia para lidar com o vitiligo e o lupus, isso só me faz o admirar ainda mais.
@@cylasje You think the greatest singer was a lip-syncer? LOL You're really stupid. But don't worry. In the words of Michael Jackson "you are not alone"
@@onesong2001hate to break it to you but nearly every singer has lip synced in their career. At least Michael actually had an excuse. He was an amazing dancer to so i don’t blame him.😂😂
I only wish we can begin to tell everyone in our circles that we love and accept them the way they look! MJ could have had a better self esteem if he heard those words of acceptance over and over and over again! I'm in my late 40s and grew up hearing about MJ even in Nigeria. I never really listened to his songs but of course they were regularly aired on many of our radio and television channels and I remembered well the day I noticed his skin colour change, I was somehow irritated. But recently as an adult, I stumbled on his bio on TH-cam and I literally wept: because of how much he was misunderstood and because he's no longer here by the time the world got to understand his condition. I wish he was here to hear some of the good things people say about him just because they had a better knowledge of his secret pains. Two things: 1. Don't die in silence and don't live for people. Accept who you are, no matter what. 2. Love genuinely and accept people irrespective of what they look like and ensure you regularly verbalise your acceptance of them. Cheers!
Very thorough take on MJ's skin. Great job. One thing that you may have missed is the 1991 song 'Word to the Badd!! by Jermaine Jackson that was leaked in 1991. It was and angry declaration directed towards MIchael with lyrics..."Once you were made, you changed your shade, was your color wrong?... could not turn back, it's a known fact, you were too far gone."
Wait I find your explanation about Thriller era so fascinating and eye-opening. He wasn’t trying to be lighter with lightening products, he was going too far with acne scarring treatments. Just like how he went too far with his nose, he didn’t know how to stop. Because in the 70s he was obsessed with both his acne and his nose from being made fun of. This makes so much sense. But I’m just confused on when exactly the struggle went from wanting an even complexion to battling vitiligo. I thought for the longest time that he battled vitiligo since the Off the wall era based on some photos that I know now were just perceived the wrong way by the fan community. I then realized that and the fact that he wasn’t actually diagnosed with vitiligo until 1986. Is it possible the acne scarring treatments induced a more vicious spreading of vitiligo when he probably only had a few spots on his body originally? I do know there are photos of him with almost unnoticeable vitiligo on his fingertips as a child and I do know that oddly enough it’s usually the groin area where people have the most vitiligo. That might’ve been the extent for him all his life up until 1986 when he realized it was a serious condition that was spreading and needed evaluating. Which once again not sure if it was aging or was he inducing it? Either way he started out always having a small amount of vitiligo and it’s just so amazing how he was able to lighten his skin so much BECAUSE those products work best on people with vitiligo. Without vitiligo he wouldn’t have been able to become the pale shade that he became. He was evening out his scars which in turn made him lighter than it would for the average black man because he had the underlying condition vitiligo (I’m kind of repeating myself at this point but I’m just trying to understand this fully). So it seems for the most part wasn’t even intended, right? I don’t know I think he only desired an even complexion and he thought getting lighter helped, and he ended up just making his vitiligo condition look worse. It’s really unfortunate. He went from obsessively(!) evening out his acne scars to obsessively evening out vitiligo. That’s the conclusion to me. This video just changed my ENTIRE perspective about his vitiligo, acne, and lupus and I’ve been a fan all my life.
While there was a great amount of Love for Michael, The world did him so dirty it's DISGUSTING. I wish more time was spent loving him for who he was and what he did for the world as far as Music.
It must have been hell for Michael to be as famous as he was and deal with his vitiligo, and even worse the media trying to ridicule him. He did so much for other people next to entertaining. And yet there are always people with negative energy who love these propaganda stories! So sad he had to live this way. RIP Michael 🙏
Michael aveva vitiligo, Solo che ci sono stati persone, che non hanno creduto che Michael avessi quella malattia. Per me Michael era sempre bellissimo. Ha sempre avuto e avrà per sempre il suo posto speciale nel mio cuore.
I think his skin was definitely effected by vitiligo. Even tho I wished he kept his darker skin I understand this probably heavily effected one of the most popular individuals the world ever seen.
He had no choice. To be honest, can you imagine such a great musician to go on stage and he looks white and someone has thrown a cup of coffee on him? It would have been so irritating for his fans. Every performer has to look good, that is a part of the job! Michael looked always attractive, no matter what kind of skin tone he had. He had such a classic and unique style in clothes and it always matched the kind of music and dance he performed.
Майкл говорил своей дочери: "помни, ты - чёрная". Принц унаследовал болезнь отца. Так что все, кто сомневаются в отцовстве Майкла, пусть заткнутся. МДж самый крутой мужчина на Земле. ✌
As both a fan and sceptic of MJ, I cannot believe that he did plastic surgery and applied products to his skin because he wanted to be white. In fact, when they were getting ready to script and film his documentary, he said it would be humiliating for a white man to play him. And, kind of as a side note, the speculation of him being LGBTQ weirds me out because he clearly wrote songs about romance with girls, was openly an heterosexual, Jehovah's Witness, and married Lisa Marie Presley!! Thanks for making this video and I hope that more people appreciate him for who he was and the music he wrote. Just a man under terrible circumstances who did his best and wanted to be generous. And, even though it could be true, it's hard for me to believe he hurt children with the heart he had to protect, educate, and bring them healthy homes. God Bless!
It started in the thriller era because on the victory tour in Toronto when performing human nature you can see it on his hands and fingertips. You can also notice it during the 84 grammys on his fingers.
It is a known fact to everybody in the Dermatological field that vitiligo causes pigmentation areas and patches over the skin however since Michael was in the public eye and nobody knew anything about his Vitiligo until 1993 then I know for a fact that the white glove with sequins was the first signs of the disease and he had advisors advised him that his Vitiligo would get progressively worse and would inevitably cover a lot of his surface area of skin so it was the decision to lighten the darker areas so that way it will blend in better with makeup when he applies it most people who have done this though would use Brown Makeup but Michael for whatever reason used whiter makeup and he did not change himself completely White you can see that in 1985 it was just a tiny bit lighter than he was on Thriller and then in 1987 he was a little bit paler but again not completely White and even in 91 and 92 though he was paler he was more yellow. It is common knowledge in the medical field that lightening cream was a common treatment for Vitiligo and some cases is still used to lighten the darker areas with a steroid cream. many people use it today and Freckle lighteners or skin eveners and they don't even realize they're using a skin bleaching cream to help lighten hyperpigmentation of the skin in little dots people will put a hyperpigmentation cream on that is a skin lightening cream. He made the decision to gradually lighten the rest of his body so that way when he sweat during a performance. cuz you got to understand if Michael Jackson was on stage he gave everything he had he gave 125% every single time he stepped out on that stage and he sweated more than any pop star I've ever seen in my life if you can see on the dangerous tour whenever he comes out for jam and he takes us some lessons on he's already drenched and sweat so even with the heaviest makeup and heaviest powder it would not be completely possible to have a makeup so thick that it will not be sweated off because the worst thing that can happen is him being on stage and his makeup running off to reveal the white patches underneath. So he is not lightning his skin tone because he does not want to be black he's lightening it because it was advised in by a professional and a doctor and if this is the best treatment as it will progress to the point where it will already be mostly White so he did. Michael Jackson did not hate being black and fat even though he got wider his music stayed black and very very Soulful if you look with dangerous and history it is very apparent and beautiful that he loves his race and believes it's beautiful. One thing people don't really know is Michael had a form of body dysmorphia and he was never satisfied with anything and he has a perfectionist and since he had the money and the means and the time he figured if I could have an afford a new nose and a new chin why not most and more people back in the day and even today if they had the money much all to their appearance in some way either with botox or filler in the lips. Michael Jackson towards the later end of his life hated the decisions he's made with plastic surgery and did not like looking at himself in the mirror. He ended up getting his first rhinoplasty in 1978 after filming The Wiz but he had breathing problems and he could not breathe very well through his nose and was still not satisfied with the size of it. So in 1981 to 82 he received a second rhinoplasty which is what we see on Thriller which is probably the best in my opinion it should have stopped right there he was so cute. His third rhinoplasty came in 1984 right before the victory tour and still being unsatisfied with it he opted for a fourth rhinoplasty in 1987 or 86 than ever and added a cleft chin. Then a Fifth rhinoplasty and either a mini brow lift or facelift in 1991 then he opted for a sixth and 1993. However this rhinoplasty would end up being the most botched of all and whenever they sewed his nose back up on the sides so much of his skin had been cut off and his Bridge of his nose had been filed so thinly that after they sewed the two sides the tip of it which had an implant placed underneath grocery the skin and a black hole probably the size of an eraser head was at the very tip of the nose and to his dying day that little hole never got closed and he was said to been found with boxes of boxes of nose tips when he was discovered after he passed. He would tape the tip on and his makeup artist would apply makeup over it and it was very apparent and it made it very difficult to perform on stage because of how much he sweats he would sweat it off and every place so during the history tour he would have opportunities after each song to go in the back and try his face off and make sure the tape is still on and do some touch-up powder it was a tiny little black hole that had little pieces sticking out of it. the nose tip had died and it was necrotic. He also got another facelift or brown lift or eye surgery in 1997 because in 2001 he really looked bad in 2001 they did another operation on his nose to attempt to rebuild it because it is basically collapsed and was unfunctional and they grafted and tried to close the hole but we're unsuccessful. but ended up going and building up a bridge a little bit with ear cartilage, to improve his breathing. but this revision didn't improve it much n MJ still had to breathe through his mouth alot because nomatter what they did, the size of his nostrils would remain tiny triangles. I am not just one of his fans who are defending him and saying no Michael did not bleach his skin ever he had Vitiligo and just use makeup I'm not also a fan who's saying and only knowing this one circumstance to base their judgment off of. You see I have a lot of knowledge of vitiligo because Vitiligo runs in a part of my family. My uncle's wife has Vitiligo and so does the majority of her family. She never used the cream she just covered hers up with makeup but her sister actually went through with the dermatologist advice and lighten the rest of her body with the cream in the 70s and so did my aunts mother. It is an extremely long process to lighten one's skin. It takes years and it never gets white at the most extremely light light gray. It will never get completely White it'll only just get extremely lighter and grayer and you can see after when he's performing some of the gray peeking through makeup. So yes lightening the darker areas is a treatment option for those suffering from vitiligo in the present and in the past. Your calling my aunts sister and mother a liar? So I guess their lightened skin and gray complexion isn't evidence enough. And my aunt was told the same thing by the same doctor. They said it was uncommon for as many people in the family to have it as they do, but they do. They were picked on and treated like freaks and my aunt sister and mother only wanted them to not harass them and people not to stare at them anymore so this is why they took the doctors advice and began the long process of bleaching ones skin. they really regret it now tho
An enlightening, revealing video, rich in details and truthful information. What we saw here demystifies the entire issue surrounding his skin. Congratulation on the video.
I like his music but I’m not the biggest fan, it’s his human side that makes me love him so much. This channel showed a whole new side to Michael, a side that I can relate to His insecurities about his skin resonate with me so much
I love this channel it’s so informative and also not at unrealistic or bias about Michael and his life you guys do a great deal of research and are always on the mark 💜
This man will always be fascinating to me. No matter how much information comes out, it's still so unclear what the full truth is. He always wanted to be a mystery, and he a achieved it
5:08 - To your point about the rash, it was actually very indicative of lupus. This type of rash is a common occurrence amongst victims of lupus. It is known as the butterfly rash or malar rash. 6:07 - As to your point about the Victory Tour, there is evidence that he had started wearing makeup to cover up his vitiligo. Michael stated that he was diagnosed with vitiligo right after Thriller. Pictures of his makeup kit during the Victory Tour can attest to this. His makeup kit consisted primarily of a product called Dermablend. This is a high-pigment makeup created to cover burns, scars, and skin discolorations. Many people with vitiligo use this product as a sort of cover stick for the entire face. Due to the fact that it makes the entire surface of your skin one color, you have to use a few shades to avoid looking mask-like, and it’s very difficult to achieve a natural look. This also explains the more androgynous look that started around this time period, as you also have to provide color for everything else on your face - lips, eyelashes, bush, eyeshadow. As his skin progressively lightened, he used lighter shades of the product (which comes in tones for a variety of skin tones for a variety of skin colors). By the way, to avoid the presumption that Michael used the makeup for any other reason besides vitiligo, I have to point out the fact that there are pictures of of his glove that was stained on the inside with the Dermablend that he used to cover the vitiligo on his hands. There are also photos during the Victory Tour where you can visibly see the lighter patches on his ear and nose, likely due to visible sweat on his face 8:46 - In the picture with Ryan White, his face is clearly lighter that it was during the Thriller era
Picture with Ryan White very clearly shows vitiligo's progress imo. You can clearly see the line, starting at about the same height as the top of his ears, running right below his eyes and down below his nose. Nose + forehead were still the original black, cheeks & the rest of his face were light. It seems obvious to me that they were adding makeup (or, well... the stuff you mentioned) to the light parts to make them blend in with the still originally black parts, but the line is still super visible - and it is on many different late 80s photos. Same line, same position on every one of them. I think the picture at 02:06 was photoshopped like that solely to point out where the line ran at that stage, though that one might not be 100% accurate. In fact, it's already visible on the Thriller era photo at 04:45, just not as severe - only cheeks seem lighter here, darker parts still visible below his nose, across his mouth and on his chin as well. I doubt this is due to any creams whatsoever, it all looks like advancing vitiligo to me, especially since it's perfectly symmetrical across his face, which vitiligo always is. I think this is why he still looked his original color on the photos after 07:50 - forehead and nose actually were, but the rest was makeup. Obviously it wasn't gonna take long after this for the nose and forehead pigment to be destroyed as well, which was done before Dangerous. Vitiligo has many degrees and the worst one does make you go pale completely. No doubt that's what he got. As to why the Bad cover was so heavily photoshopped - one could assume he wanted people to get used to what was to come. And preferred making it a gradual thing instead of shocking the world by releasing a pale white image of himself right after a fully dark one.
Thank you. I am a medical doctor and that was definitely a lupus caused malar rash. It does not have to be crusty like the video erroneously described.
@@babygurll7 THANK YOU. The detail is a hater channel the secretly trying to implant the same old false narratives about Michael into fans heads. He knows good and damn well that Michael's cheeks look like a molar rash. He knows what he's doing.
THANK YOU. The detail is a hater channel the secretly trying to implant the same old false narratives about Michael into fans heads. He knows good and damn well that Michael's cheeks look like a molar rash. He knows what he's doing. Its actually a very old hater tactic to try and push the idea that Michael somehow induced his vitiligo, which is stupid because something always triggers vitiligo in a person, so its just another clever way for them to demonize his and accuse him of trying to turn himself white.
Biggest Mj fan ever. But I feel like maybe the initial nose job was a catalyst to all of the cosmetic changes. He was confined and limited to black categories when it came to awards and radio play, so him wanting to change his appearance and sound sonically to fit a broader audience makes sense. Don’t think it had anything to do with him not wanting to be black but more so with wanting to reach a larger audience and set himself apart from the rest. The more he changed his appearance the more success he gained in the early 80s, so it makes sense why he chose to keep pushing the limit when it came to his look. It’s almost as if he wanted to be a completely different person with each album. It may have backfired later on but he gave us so many iconic looks and moments, I think he accomplished what he was initially trying to achieve.
I agree with you, doesn't downplay the significance of having had vitiligo but I think it would be stupid to aside from the skin totally disregard the other surgical "enhancements" I love Micheal though, such a unique and ethereal being
He had the most selling album of all times while his skin was black. His sale went low after the vitiligo started. His first surgery was due breaking his nose, then he needed a revision but due to lupus it never healed right. His sound was invented by him. He never wanted to appeal to white media, he always referred to himself as a proud black man.
It’s sad to see how being under the spotlight since a young age has made him feel so self conscious… but to me he will always be the king of pop/music.
Excellent Job! I think Micheal himself would approve of this. You've explained every single thing he was going through but couldn't tell us cos how insecure it made him. Its sad to imagine how sad and broken he most likely was on the inside while still dedicating himself to making us all Happy😢
I always thought MJ's transition was more gradual and linear, I didn't realise he went from dark to pale multiple times. I assumed after around 1985/86 he was tan, then from around 1991 he was pale.
Yeah that Noxema would destroy my skin too. I'm sure that's what caused the redness during the early and mid 80s. It sounds to me like Michael's face and hands were largely unaffected by the vitiligo during this time but harsh acne treatments were destroying his skin so he used make-up to cover it while his torso was affecting his torso and legs mostly. When the Vitiligo got out of control on his torso and legs he started to lighten his whole body which is why we didn't see white blotches on his hands and face, only gradual pigment changed. Michael just had bad skin. It's a shame that the media at large refused to except this truth. They just loved to make him suffer. Very shameful.
@@elizabethschubert7803 He had no plastic surgery. In his autopsy they didn't find the scars of plastic surgery. The scars are normally under the chin and in front of the ears. They found only the scars he had when they placed a balloon under his burn wound, under the scull, so that Michael had more elasticity, which left him with migraines and insomnia. Michael had mostly dermal fillers from Dr. Klein, he said that in one of his trial, it's called Restylane. That was popular during that time. People don't do plastic surgery so much, because you need a long time to recover, the outcome is unpredictable, you have scars and after few years you need another surgery, and it's expensive. There are other better methods for performers, actors, entertainers, musician who are working in the public.
@@elizabethschubert7803 You are very welcome. I think he wanted to change his nose, because he was terrible teased by his father. His father called him "big nose". He had to do re-constructive surgeries of his nose, because the skin wouldn't heal, because of lupus. Have a great day, stay safe and healthy.
4:52 is when it started... It breaks my heart. You can see he has a ton of white makeup on he wasnt even trying to use products that were his complexion... His skin was irritated because he started using skin bleaching products.. He went to a "white person" party and wanted to be more white.. I wish you would've just loved yourself man... This shit kills me
Its so sad how much trauma he endored and struggled with his issues in silence because of the image of fame. He was a sensitive soul that was scrutinized and made to feel ashamed for not being perfect. He was a humanitarian and deeply kind who didn't deserve his demise. Sorry for those who were cruel to you. I wish you realized how much louder the love is for you. 😍💓You will always be a star 🌟There will never be another like you ❣️
If I was Michael, I would've used creams to even out the vitiligo too. Makeup could only do so much, especially while he's performing. He would just sweat it off anyway. On top of that, he was already wearing long sleeved shirts, jackets, etc in places where it was tropic/humid. Not to mention him carrying an umbrella. This is the same MJ that loved swimming pools, amusement parks, and traveling. You really think he jeopardized being outside because he "wanted white skin"?. Before his death, when was the last time you seen a picture/video of MJ outside with a short sleeved shirt on? Don't say "In The Closet" or "They Don't Care About Us (Brazil)" because those areas were: A. Shaded or had cloud covering. B. Was only for brief moments.
despite being a hardship for MJ, i believe God intended for every aspect of him. He was the greatest entertainer God put on this Earth and he said it himself his gift to music came from God. I believe he was a beacon for God's love and that God made him go through such a change to really show the world that we are all alike in His eyes, in the same way we see Michael for the wonderful and talented guy he was, with the same eyes, wether we are seeing him in his dark skin days or his light skin days. We see that he was always the same great guy, and that is how God sees all of us
I do believe Michael had a vitiligo. But at the same time for somebody who is not a fan of Michael Oher doesn’t know much of his life it’s kind of hard to tell them that he didn’t want to look or appear more white then he was black. It wasn’t just the skin but it was also his face that changed drastically in a short amount of time.
2:06 it's an edit Michael Jackson Multiverse did himself to show how he would like without make up. He made an explanation long time ago since many people are using it as a real picture.
I personally think he should've opened up to the world about his skin condition during his 1986 award speech. I'm sure the public, especially the fans would understand. It would've been a weight off his shoulders, and it would raise awareness on Vitiligo. Something like this can be very traumatic, and you can see the sadness in his eyes during those years trying to cover it. Unfortunately he was very private and insecure, which led to the media starting rumors of their own
No one believed him when he spoke the truth. He aways said, people wanted to hear fantastic news or bad news. The truth can be boring. Love you Michael.
It was probably too late by the late 80s as the media had already made up its mind he was a freak, so no one would have believed a word he said. After he disclosed it in '93, it wasn't until his death that the mainstream opinion shifted towards believing he had it. Perhaps there was a small window of opportunity in the early 80s, but it looks like the condition hadn't developed enough yet; and even then they would probably have written trash like "he claims to have vitiligo, but it was really just a ruse to cover up the fact he was about to turn white" or some other rubbish. You can't win against a propaganda machine that's hell bent on making you look bad. And that's beside the point that health matters are private, and one is not obliged to disclose them in public, although we can agree in this case it was a sensible and practical thing to do.
@@BillieJeanIs You said it right!! ✅
Trust me, the public would have not been compassionate and understanding when it came to Michael. They would have done anything to destroy his reputation since they were so intimidated by his success as a black man. Even after he did admit he had a skin condition in 1993, it was not followed by kindness from the public. So his admission was definitely not a load off his back.
The fans would have understood for sure. We have and will always support him. ❤️
@@awm4359 Facts!!!
I think people often forget he was the most famous person pretty much on the planet. Imagine dealing with several conditions whilst already being insecure from your family teasing you whilst going on stage whilst having millions of people constantly watching you. I mean you would have to be Jesus himself in order to take the amount criticism Michael took. 99 percent of people would completely break in his situation
Exactly. Some people can be hypocrites. Most of the people who criticized him for his skin disorder would have done the same thing if they were in his position. Some celebrities these days bleach their skin for fun and beautification purposes, those are the kind of people that should be criticized but no, it is someone with two skin diseases that cannot be cured easily they are still ranting about.
Michael was famous up to 1984 when he died, Frank Jespin a lookalike started posing as MJ in 1985 when the BAD Album was released
no lies
@d b that's what makes this the most believable
Black Michael and white Michael
His father was the main reason he was insecure about his looks when Michael was younger. His dad made fun of him and said he had fat nose.
I remember as kids, my siblings and I sat around the tv awaiting the world premiere of Black Or White. We were surprised at how much different he looked at first (Compared to the Thriller and Bad Era), but we were happy that he was back with new music and videos and didn't focus on the lighter skin tone. (He always looked cool no matter what!) That's the way Michael wanted it to be, that we enjoyed and appreciated his talent first and foremost.
Remember that premiere too. I actually don't think he look that much different in that video to the BAD era except for the hair style and suttle make up changes.. He still had some complexion. It was Remember the Time where it was more noticeable to me. The Black or White video was an event though! Half the world stopped to watch that. 3ven remember trailers/adverts in the UK leading up to it
@@jbassey231 I felt exactly the same. I remember when Black Or White aired on TOTPs the skin tone didn't shock me too much. I was more obsessed with how he turned into a black panther 😂 ( I was only 4).
Then when he toured over in UK the media just focused on his face.
@@darylallmanful 😂 We're the same age! I watched it on TOTPs too! I remember the weeks leading up to it airing they were showing the advert with MJ walking through the fire... I used to run to my babysitter for a hug every time it came on coz I was so scared 🤣 Funny coz that video is what made me a Michael Jackson fan from then on.. That and Moonwalker coming on TV about a month later....
I was a child and I was impressed how he managed to change so much, I thought that was fantastic in my childhood innocence
Woah, I never looked at the Black or White music video this way. I was born in '95 so it's before my time but this is great info to know of the past. Thanks for sharing.
I must give major respect to The Detail as this platform is the ultimate example of professional journalism, (literally) detailed researched information and respect for Michael Jackson himself. There's no gimmicks, zero sensationalism, embellishments, slick cheap shots or personal opinions about the person for whom is being discussed that is Mr. Jackson. There's caring involved in this content and it shows. I appreciate this channel so much. Respect on all levels.
Thank you!
@@thedetail.first time viewer here and yeah it definitely shows, very good job!
@@thedetail.❤
Man, vitiligo is an awful thing to have. And I’m saying this from first hand experience. Covers at least 60% of my legs arms and face. My hands and feet are now 100% white. The changes began to happen about 16 years ago, and showing now signs of stopping completely(although it has slowed).
Some people deal with it better than others. But I can imagine how difficult it must’ve been for MJ to go through it at a time when he was the most famous person on the planet. I can comprehend why he decided to make other changes overtime. But those decisions were made by a man not thinking with a great deal of clarity. May he rest in peace 🙏🏾
Aw sorry to hear, i can imagine it being a stressful time in your life especially being black. But yes MJ on an international stage I imagine it was a terrible time for his mental health.
How gradual or sudden were the changes?
Im.covered 95+% now. My hair is about the only thing left with some color still visible on my arms
Michael had vitiligo. It was on his autopsy report. It was listed very high up on the report which means it was readily visible to the eye. It was one of the first things noted. It was his choice on how to treat it, no one else's. It was his business, no one else's. Besides it doesn't matter what shade a person's skin is. As Michael himself said a person should be judged by the content of their character not the shade of their skin. And the content of Michael' s character was impeccable.
Probably one of the nicest human beings to ever walk the earth he never ever judged any one, and even when he was accused of sexually abuse he never blamed the children that's just how great he was and will always be known as a shining beacon of wisdom.
Exactly, I really agree with you. Everything you wrote is just my opinion as well. It's so personal and private. This man had no privacy at all. Everybody had to tell him what to do, it's awful. Since he was a 5 year old child he only had to do what other people told him. He had no freedom of choice. And who cares? He can decide for himself what treatment he wanted or if he wanted to keep his medical records private. Why should he tell EVERYTHING to the public and that he should have justified every step in his life. Nobody does that.
To Jean, Hannah and Lucas......I agree with all 3 of you and appreciate your comments. As a huge fan of Michael and admirer of Michael the human being, I personally get in my feelings when ppl talk poorly of him, judge him and call him names. Plastic surgeries or no plastic surgery, vitiligo, BS rumors about his character....I hate and it hurts my heart how he was in such pain emotionally and physically. He had vitiligo....I’m my mind....so what. Ppl don’t take the time to think about him being called names by his own father and those that claimed to love him hurt him by their words when the only thing he gave us other than great music....was his love. For whatever reason he chose not to share his disorder with the public, that was his business and his business alone. I don’t care if his skin was turning transparently clear like glass. Why is it such an issue? An issue then and still an issue now. Besides, who would want to share when you’re already being verbally beaten at every corner he turned. I remember the exact day he passed and where I was. At that time I was on the medical staff in a local jail. I was in a room with somewhere around 75 new arrests for the day. One man waiting to be processed yelled out “Yo yo yo......Everybody STFU....Michael is dead!!!!”. All the TVs were turned up to the max and I’ll tell you, the room literally went from men yelling, cursing out officers, etc to where you could hear a pin drop. No exaggeration. Complete silence. All you could hear was the tv. The announcement of his passing interrupted the regular program that was on. Like a severe weather advisement or a message from the President. Numerous ppl (staff and inmates) began crying, myself included. Dudes that were being combative with guards just simply stopped. Everyone was put in holding booking cells without a single disturbance. They were asked to go into the cells and every last one of them did so like “obedient children”. It was like time froze. This man was loved and adored yet was also judged, criticized, betrayed and extorted. I pray he is resting well. 🕊🙏🏽❤️💔
@@hazybrneyesmd well said! MJ was adored by so many
@@Snyper1405 Exactly! He was and will always be the greatest musician and dancer in the world. There won't be any artist who comes even close to his talent!
He was criminally misunderstood because of his condition....People like to judge because they're not experiencing it.....As a human being and a black man, I can't never know how he felt going through all the BS, I can only feel bad
Totally agree
Exactly bruh
I "suffer" from this condition...for me, he'll remain a coward man for doing what he did.
@@cube5750 Well, back then the world wasn't as acceptance like it is now and when he did come out about his condition but he mocked and laughed at for it
@@sam041390 your comment makes no sense.
Michael Jackson was perfect with both dark and light skin .... as a child when I watched his videos I didn't notice any difference he could be light or dark for me he was always unique the greatest and still is.👑
Michael had always a great style and class, and he always looked very attractive. His style was often so perfectly creative to his music and dance. He was genius in creativity and in his appearance and his choices of clothes. He always had his own unique style. I love him, no matter what skin tone he had.
@@saywhat303 Little jealous??? Oh... poor "Say What" is not famous and wealthy! Jealous of Michael's success? Only men are doing such comments, that's weird!
@@saywhat303 stfu clown foh here obviously your not a fan
@@saywhat303 ladies and gentlemen here is the answer of an IDIOT😂
@@hannaz4617 he just talking facts u lot act like he a god anyone hv the right to speak what they think.
the last quote of michael's brother describing his vitiligo was painful too hear...the fact that everyone still chooses to believe that michael wanted to be white TO THIS DAY shocks me, he was way too precious for this world.
love how informative this video is, i hope many see it so they are educated about his skin condition
Thank you, highly appreciate your kind comments
i believe that many white/non-black people gain personal satisfaction from the idea that he wanted to be white/became white. the notion being he was too great to be "just black"
@@Abdultidus yes exactly...people are sick and refuse to get educated on the man
@@Abdultidus it's so obvious he had vitiligo ,like literally
But he also chose to have pure white children and date exclusively white women. He did have a self loathe issue
What's important is Michael's message to the world in his music. His private life is his.
Amen.
The obsession with his skin colour is excessive, so much speculation. I stopped watching after the narrator "undiagnosed" the red butterfly blotches which are often early indicators of lupus.
This!! None of this was anyone’s business anyway! As long as he continued creating good music as he did 😩
It doesn't matter if you black or white, but seemingly it did matter if you black and white.
But in all seriousness.
I'm sorry you had that trial MJ. The world still loves you just as you were. Still.
Just wish you'd have been able to look past the flaws and be happy as you were.
May you rest in peace and may we see you again one day.
I can’t stress enough how spot on you guys are with helping some of us fans crack the code to questions and feelings we’ve had for decades. The fact you even bring up how he looks brown off stage Vs light skinned on stage in the mid to late 80s truly shows how embedded you guys are to us fans. Because we all tried to make sense of it and find better understanding as well.
Agreed!
Thank you! I have felt the same and spoken to many fans about these aspects of Michael Jackson’s evolving look. I hope the next video will give further clarity on this most controversial of issues
Agreed. I am amazed at the data the author found from 7:50 to 9:40
@@thedetail. There are videos on TH-cam of Michael dancing with Emmanuel Lewis and dancing after the Pepsi accident. In those videos the vitiligo is apparent on his arms. I’d love to hear your take on those 🙂
Tbh very honest. It’s always 1985 that makes me question of whether or not he played a bigger part in turning lighter. By 87 he still was very bronze. Which means the disease didn’t progress. But I’m 85, his skin looked lightened, not make up, but skin deep lightened. Which could mean he may have bleached his skin, with the contributing vitiligo over time. Either that or he just used darker toned make up at times through
Out the mid to late 80s.
She sat and cried. How much purity and love was in these songs. Almost all texts are about love for children. His voice, so gentle and charming, which does not speak, but cries about human cruelty, anger and hatred! Michael broadcasts that he is not omnipotent, but will do everything possible in this world to make it cleaner, brighter and happier. Thank you dear for being with us. You continue to live in our hearts!
It’s crazy cause growing up as a kid we never thought about it. It never crossed my mind that he looked different from Thriller to Bad, he was still Michael Jackson. Even now showing my 4 yr old daughter his videos she’s never asked why does he look different. She just knows that’s the King of Pop, Michael Jackson. I think there’s a beauty in that no matter how he looked we just saw him!
Never cared. I did think he was two people as I would describe the album I wanted to hear. My dad would say “he’s one person honey” 😂
Yup exactly!! His aura is Michael through and through. I was introduced to Mike in the very early 2000s but never questioned his tone. He always looked like himself light or dark lol
I feel for him 🥺... I loved his skin tone but no matter what he's still black.
Hes still a black man regardless and people should have respected that he had this condition.
But he didn't publicly reveal it until much later...by then the speculations had already ran rampant.
He shoulda spoken about it much sooner.
@@Akumaten1 No, he has a right of privacy! He doesn't has to do anything. Everybody should have the right to live their lives as they want to live their lives. He had the same rights as you, to do his own life decisions.
@@hannaz4617
True, but when you have a career like HIS, in a world like THIS--You can't afford to do that.
Thats the Price of Fame...
You cant keep a private life AND simultaneously be in front of the spotlight with such a startling visual transformation...Lets just keep it 💯
Cant happen.
@@Akumaten1 You can to a certain degree. I know that Vanessa Paradis, her children, Rod Stewart, Ringo Star, Mariah Carey...... they keep their privacy and their popularity and professional life pretty separate. In Michael's case it was the false accusations, the hate, greed and jealousy that made people go into his private life. The media used every little detail to put Michael down or to do any negative reports. The media was paid by big people of the entertainment industry for any negative reports. Michael's doctor in Ireland said in an interview he was offered a 6 numbered amount of money if he would give any negative information to the press. People like Weinstein, Epstein, Geffen, they wanted to see Michael in court. On one hand he would lose so much money that he had to sell his ATV music catalog and on the other hand the sensationalism would distract the media to find out about the crimes of the real criminals. I have to say, it was sad to watch, very sad!
Nobody from the public beat him up, assaulted, or shot him.
All the changes with Michael Jackson's features, his immense shyness and comments he made both verbally and in writing about himself makes me sad about the world in general. He's just a more famous example of how people are forced to hate who they are and what they look like. The way they are born. The qualities and features that make each of us unique. This society has a mission to not allow people to be comfortable in their own skin. Love you Michael.
Body Dysmorphia combined with vittiligo and very judgemental public is a bad combination.
As a person who has body dysmorphia tons of people commenting on my appearance would be my worst nightmare.
@@Chelaxim Michael had no body dysmorphia, that's an old rumor. He was an artist and he was exactly doing what artists are doing, they change their appearance according to their music, they are creating the character. They have to perform and in order to be successful they need to look attractive. Michael was all his life a very attractive men. You can just guess how many female would have loved it to be with Michael. Your comment dysmorphia is taken out of lexicon. I can tell you that all actors and musicians would have dysmorphia. If Jennifer Lopez is getting her injection in her whole body, face, her fillers and botox, her hair extension, eyelash extensions, her permanent makeup and cosmetic changes she would have dysmorphia as well, the same with the Kardashians, Brad Pitt, Leonardo di Caprio, Amber Heard, Angelina Jolie, Elizabeth Taylor, Paul Mc Cartney........the list is endless!
@@hannaz4617 Body dysmorphia is when you have an addiction to getting dangerous procedures. It is when you lack the mental strength to value your own health higher than your want of changing looks. For example, Michael’s nose jobs. He was never satisfied with it and kept getting revisions despite the health complications. Same goes with his abuse of prescription bleaching creams. Bleaching creams are NOT meant to be used forever. They are prescribed to help even out your skin tone. By 1991 Michael’s skin was already overall pale so when police found 28 tubes of prescription bleaching creams in his room in 2009 that is indicative he was abusing bleaching creams despite the serious health risks. None if your examples are celebrities with body dysmorphia. Getting some work done initially in your early career and regular botox / facials is not the same as continuing to jeopardize your health forever
I have a theory that even though he genetically had vitiligo, the whole issue got out of hand after the Pepsi burn which put him in enormous stress which may have accelerated the process
How does a hair burn accelerate a skin disease
@@kodeinekowboy3750 stress can cause it to progress faster.
@@kodeinekowboy3750 If you have medium to dark colored skin and you burn yourself on an area of your body bad enough, that area can lose some of its pigment.
I mean huge stress can trigger dormant diseases and we all know MJ was always stressed. The burn was just the cherry on top of the snowball
Fact checked, stress can seriously exacerbate vitiligo. It makes sense to me now because my dad had vitiligo, his right leg had a large patch of lighter skin and over the years his legs slowly lost a lot of pigmentation but other parts of him remained largely melanated.
Poor guy, he had many things going for him like his extreme talent and wealth but he was also disadvantaged by his numerous health conditions and life traumas, I honestly feel bad for him. He was a big part of my childhood and his music still inspires me as a 29 year old man. I hope if there is a heaven he's performing for all the people up there, I love you Michael.
For people who are saying they are insecure about their skin tones is okay. You don’t have to change to be lighter or darker we are created the shade given. People like Micheal had a skin condition meaning he had no other choice but to even the tone out with makeup to match the color his skin was getting or in other words kept the natural vitiligo look. We all are beautiful human beings luv u all❤️also pls do not tan or bleach every single time if you choose to lighten or darken ur skin it causes skin cancer.
It’s not possible to bleach the skin n change skin color, it’s just market… you can use creams used by Michael only if you have vitiligo, that should be prescribed by your doctor
He did not. He had vitiligo.
Of course he had a choice. He could have said "I'm going to let them see the real Michael Jackson" but he didn't trust his fans to accept his real skin.
@@magicmermaidasmr Yes i believe the cream they found at Michael's house only works if you have vitiligo. When i googled vitiligo treatments that cream is one of them. Guess which one was listed as the number one treatment and the most common? Makeup!
What about a his nose?
I remember being so confused when I saw Michael in his later years. At the time, I had only seen the Thriller music video. My mom explained his skin disease.
Lmao I was born in 90, and it was the opposite when I first seen younger Michael from the Jackson 5. I was 3, and my mom told me Michael was coming on TV. I was so confused when I seen the young black Michael I became upset, and thought she lied to me LMAO 🤣
As a kid I use to think there was 2 michael Jackson’s cause of the drastic change in his appearance. I have an uncle who has dealt with vitiligo all their life .
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I do believe that Michael did have vitiligo but I also think he lightened his skin just even out the blotches he may have had. Which I don’t blame him for doing.
True
he only did it to his hands and arms. i’m pictures in 2003 you can still still his vitiligo spots on his legs meaning he didn’t permanently bleach his skin
Yep. Benoquin cream is typically given to patients who've lost more than 50 percent of their pigment.
Don’t have to “believe” he had it if you can physically see in photos and his official autopsy says he had it
not bleached! he used a creme to even out and it’s only for vitiligo patients!. that’s a difference
For someone so blessed with extraordinary talent Michael Jackson was beat up by life. I pray he is finally at peace. People should have asked questions concerning his talent instead of obsessing obsessing over his appearance. Thank you Michael. Rest in peace
Michael Jackson will always be a black icon. End of story.
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RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This FACT is lost on many, I'm afraid.
Facts
Forever!
He might be that but let’s keep it a buck, he worshipped whiteness. Even vitiligo aside, he changed his hair from naturally coily to straight & altered his natural nose.
Invited mostly white kids to his ranch, married a white woman, later arranged for another one to legally marry & adopt him two white children who are now heirs to his estate.
People can deny it all they want but the man wasn’t that proud of his roots despite what he said in interviews. A person’s actions tell you more than their words.
You have to think bro he is a big international superstar and the media and world was less accepting he has to do it honestly. Ignorant people don't believe he had it even though it's evidence 👑💯 love you mike
Vitiligo is rare....no matter what....i still remember his words' " *Am proud to be a Black* "
“I am BLACK! You think I don’t know that I’m BLACK? I’m proud to be a BLACK MAN!”
I found his statement to Oprah to be the most truthful thing he may have ever said about his skin, when he says something like "people don't care when others tan to become other than what they are". I read into that statement as a confession of sorts. I really don't care if he lied, did or didn't have vitiligo, he should do what makes him happy, at the end of the day it really is nobody's business if he bleached his skin or not.
Thank you, I reference that statement he made in the next video
@@thedetail. could it be that Michael had Vitiligo of some form. And he went to the deep end of using depigmentation when it may not have been necessary? I never seen a picture of MJ with patches from the 80s. Like not on fingers or anything. Just self conscious and fame, and media scrutiny? He actually looked better when he wore minimal or no makeup in the late 80s Bad Era
That's true... white skinned people tried to make their skin appear tan
@@juvelynmorales3421 not permanently though.
@@eaqua56 if MJ didnt have vitiligo, his pale skin also will never be permanent.
If you love one version of Michael Jackson (be it the Bad era or the Thriller era or the Jackson 5 era or the HIStory era etc, etc) you love all versions of Michael Jackson. Its strange but true.
I have vitiligo, and I underwent treatment with monobenzone to even out the color. As far as I know Michael also had this treatment.
Every time I see a Michael Jackson transformation video, I always hope it doesn’t end the way it does
I grew up in the 80s on Michael Jackson and didn’t know anything about plastic surgery, vitiligo etc…. I just remember when the bad album came out and saw his pic on that album. We were all like “wow, what happened to Michael?”
As late as 1989 and 1990, I remember Bad concert footages where he looked just like Thriller and Off the Wall MJ after he sweated off the makeup or whatever he had on - and there were no pale spots anywhere. His face structure was changing though with his plastic surgeries (chin implants, nose etc)
But he def did something in the early 90s that permanently changed his pigmentation. I think he was a troubled man with self image issues vitiligo or not.
I was an obsessed young MJ fan and probably too young to comprehend whatever was going on. The greatest performer ever anyway. RIP.
He started having the patches during the thriller era , so yeah it definitely took more than 3-4 years for drastic change in skin colour, those acne creams and spf left a white base , and definately worsened the state of his skin . That redness on his face looked like he had harshly exfoliated his face probably due to acne insecurities he had , or had a terrible reaction to some product. It's sad that the vitiligo skipped one generation in his family and Michael was the only one who had the worst of it , Jermaine had on his thigh , and clearly it didn't spread that much lucky for him .
The rashes came from lupus
@@WILL_aka_TROID . That possibility was discussed in the video, the rashes from lupus patients were compared, it was kind of different on his face . The skin definitely looked irritated with a bit of inflammation.
What about latoya though? She was noticeablely lighter too or was it just the light makeup?
@@dmer-zy3rb . It was both , she was naturally lighter than her siblings and used lighter makeup , tbh there weren't many options for dark skin foundations back then , still today not many brands who claim to be inclusive have options for darker complexions.
Ive heard snippets of him describing these horrrible interactions with the public as he was transitioning from a 'cute little kid' into a man and the reactions to his acne he had to deal with sounded nothing short of traumatic. It would not surprise me if he got the Chemical peels for his acne and then that plus the emotional trauma triggered the vitiligo. A lesson is to be learned here.. never be ashamed of your body no matter what. As long as one is taking good care of it anything else is to be worn as a badge of honor. 🔥
pretty sad. you can see the self consciousness in his face and people kept asking him about it. he seemed like such a friendly guy.
Wow, I just realized that this entire channel is dedicated to Michael Jackson.
It also took me a while to realize at first 😂
It wasn't as outspoken then, im white and have vitiligo so it's not as recognizable. But it covers my legs and arm pits as well as other parts of my body. It has come out more recently and has been more acceptable. I cant imagine what Michael went through, In front of the world.
Some people embrace it. It all depends on whether you have a positive outlook on life or not.
I never cared how he looked. He made great music and danced like no other. He always had that beautiful smile and gorgeous eyes.
mj's dark skin tone during those bad era rehearsals and private photos suited him better than the makeup
Seriously. For someone who let him tell it was proud to be black, he certainly didn't do much to look dark. I know he had vitiligo but still why purposely try to look lighter ?
@@DTownNash i suspect he was proud of his race but didn't want to look like his father at all, and maybe body dysmorphia as well
That WAS makeup. Michael's makeup artist and some of the photographers who did his photoshoots have stated that Michael was is FULL body makeup during that time.
@@JPX64Channel Yeah he "didn't do much" Thats why he was wearing full body makeup to stay brown right? Lets see you use full body makeup every day of your life and then you can judge.
@@CCI320 i mean i get it he was full on makeup, but it doesnt make a lot of sense that he looked whiter in the actual concerts but darker in private footage??? like he was using brown makeup for private stuff and whiter makeup for concerts and video shootings?
It is different when you are not in the spotlight, Michael was so famous and all eyes of the whole world were on him.No wonder he wanted to look perfect, I really feel sorry for him these tabloids were picking on every aspect of his life. He had so many health conditions to fight with plus he was a very sensitive person and he still kept going.I love you Michael. Thank you@The Detail for another amazing video and creating great MJ fans community. Can’t wait for the next video 🙂
The eyes of the whole world were not on him. How many records did he sell? There are 8 billion people on this planet. Most of them don't listen to him.
Michael Jackson is the strongest person I know, he was a genius yet he had too many hurdles to jump, his health, his choices, nobody could ever do all that in 50 years! Black or white he looked cool, and his videos are beautiful, I will always love him no matter what!
He also had lupus…which often times gives the patient a reddish butterfly rash. So he might have also been using make up to conceal the rash as well. People tend to judge when they don’t know the underlying conditions that people might be suffering!
Did you watch the full video? We did mention this
@@thedetail. I saw, thanks!
@@thedetail. but you claimed it is also a rash, though it can be just a flush on the skin... like on Michael.
@@RA82828 But wouldn't bleach give an even blush all over the face?
What is the name of the bleach you are you referring to?
And what is the name of the hairtreatment you say can give the same result? (I don't want to use it!)
@@thedetail. You did not. you suggested he may not have had the molar rash from lupus when his doctors have confirmed he did. You tried to suggest his red cheeks were from bleaching or "harsh treatments". You are not fooling me.
I bet it was weird af being a MJ fan back in the 80s and seeing in real time how his complexion changed after Thriller. Being a 96 baby and growing up with the Invincible era MJ. I thought he was a white man until I saw the Thriller MV later on. It’s so sad that such a kind hearted soul had to deal with so much issues throughout his lifetime and many of it being out of his control
You know he was not white he danced too good to be white.
As a child, I didn't understand much, but MJ's skin was very normal to me. I never thought negatively about it. I just accepted what he looked liked in each era because he was still Michael Jackson
Me too❤
Same!
I thought he was the first person transracial person. It was a "wait and see what he does next" thing. Reminds me of Pee Wee Herman, or Richard Simmons.
2:06 the picture in the right was edited by myself back in 2018, I explained I did that with the purpose of explaining how his vitiligo would look like if he had no makeup on. So it was already known it is an edited picture, and not meant to be used as a real one, but many fans did, that's why you said it was "debunked".
@@lilmamagc you riding him too hard it’s ok bro
Woah!!
Well, I believe it's an edit, I don't believe that vitiligo spreads like that.
more like foundation cream.
did you edit the other michael photos too?
like the photo when he wears a green shirt and reads the newspaper?
sorry if my grammar is bad🙏
I grew up with Michael's music I don't care what he did or didn't do on the outside. I watched him because I loved his talent and his heart was kind . He had enough pain he didn't need to be judged for his looks, just for his King of Pop talent and he wore it to the fullest.
How do you know his heart was kind? People thought Jimmy Saville was kind.
How do you know he wasn’t
7:50 - 9:40 woah, insane how you found this information. In my 13+ years of studying and obsessing over this man I didn't know about this period of time and how his skin color truly looked
Don’t tell me your white I don’t think his family like white people
When it comes to skin lighting I think michael was saying he didn't just do it to be white, I think I was trying to say he did it because he had to. Thriller Michael jackson is a mad handsome guy btw!
I agree! Michael was a really handsome and attractive Black man! I love Thriller 💘 Best way to describe his pov is: he was Michael Jackson (his trauma, his individuality) with vitiligo in a race-obsessed America. Like others, he used the FDA-approved treatment as medication. That means he'd didn't "bleach" his skin because the creams were prescribed by doctors that diagnosed & treated his vitiligo (and Lupus). All of this has been verified many times over, with candid/private pictures & even at his death. You also have to put the time period into perspective & all of the race obstacles that he triumphantly overcame. Michael didn't have the best relationship with his family & he was private. He may have had substance abuse issues but he was human & trusted people that didn't always have the best intentions! None of us know him personally but one thing's for sure is it was his skin, his body & life ultimately. This video did a good job but it glossed over Michael's experience of being Black. If you really did your research you'd see that his transformation wasn't until 20 years after his diagnosis in the 1980's and he still had patches of brown skin. A lot of people simply take pleasure in mocking the "irony" and projecting their insecurities & racism. Overall, Michael is king ✨🎶
He is the mirror,of the universe…No nudity or bullshit ,just a properly dressed gu sitting on a stool for three minutes, singing with his amazing voice..He is, beyond all time ,an angelic heart,the only thing that saddens me is that we have not been able to hold him..Thank you for KİNG MJJ🎩
That is so sad, I can’t even imagine going through what he had to endure, please let’s not judge another unless you walk a mile in their shoes, unless you went through what he did, you’ll never really understand how he felt, the toll it took on him, and just to bring himself some level of comfort, what he did to relieve and/or escape it. I can only say, wow what strength of character he has, especially knowing that he would never be a white man no matter what. Personally I think that he should have been even more proud of himself, for overcoming. Rest In Peace. Mr. Jackson, rip, what a hell of a life you had.
He was the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen in my entire life, no matter what his skin color was ❤ We love you Michael ❤️❤️❤️
Oh my goodness🤦🏾♂️. Even after the autopsy was shown confirming his vitiligo, some people in the comments still believe he lied about it.
@gamingassassin6669
just because his autopsy said he had vitiligo doesn't mean that he truly had it. They could have simply put down that he had vitiligo due to certain areas of uneven skin that could have been a result of bleaching and NOT vitiligo. I don't know if he truly had that skin condition.. however it is suspicious that I never seen ANY spots when he would go shirtless during thriller era, bad era and during the 90s...
just because his autopsy said he had vitiligo doesn't mean that he truly had it. They could have simply put down that he had vitiligo due to certain areas of uneven skin that could have been a result of bleaching and NOT vitiligo. I don't know if he truly had that skin condition.. however it is suspicious that I never seen ANY spots when he would go shirtless during thriller era, bad era and during the 90s...
Let’s not forget his father used to say to him that he was “too black” and had a “huge nose”. It doesn’t surprise me in the least even though it is deeply heartbreaking that he carried those words with him always and they distorted his self image forever, making him change his appearance so much. It wasn’t a race thing as it was a colorism thing. He saw nothing wrong with being black in itself but rather his own complexion because his father put that into his brain at a young age. RIP 🤍
exactly!!!
Media destroyed this man systematically
I really appreciate how this channel is unbiased and making all the effort to present the truth. Well done!
hello fellow habesha michael fan!
I love this channel. It’s so nice to watch videos that are respectful, yet do not insult our intelligence by ignoring facts. Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much, I find it mind-blowing people just ignore stuff you can see with your own eyes so to stick to a narrative they have been fed.
Me too!
His father verbally abused him for his looks, he had a hard time accepting his own looks by drastically changing then, of coarse, people would think that he had bleached his skin. It is what it is. He was still admired for his music. It is what it is.
Michael changed because he wanted to change - that's all. The whole family teased each other...and Michael teased his siblings. He doesn't get a pass.
His dad, was a jerk.
@@lisacox3750agreed
You can't even bleach your skin that white. It's impossible. Even the most affective treatments today in 2023 will make make your sin as white as Michael's. People who believe the bleaching nonsense are idiots. Period.
Don't even care what color he is. He's still the Michael Jackson. We should actually be happy because he gained confidence and no longer anxious to his condition.
Poor Michael why does vitiligo as to occurred for him?😔 and I find it sad that what colorism has done to the black community.
Not just black. Colorism exists in other cultures and races as well.
White supremacy is a helluva drug. Colourism is all about proximity to whiteness whether in communities of African descent or communities of South Asian descent.
He only revealed that to his mother and sister, Janet. Janet knew all along as they were the closest siblings. Their mother, Katherine Jackson once mentioned how he at one point confessed about it to her in mid 80s in their family home and also to Janet, when she was around 22.
My older sis has vitiligo and lupus. My mom found a patch on her eye when she was 12. No one could figure this out and this was the damn 80's. She wasn't diagnosed with Lupus until 1998 after my nephew's death. Hers is noticeable, but my sister is lighter in skin tone than both Winnie and Michael. No matter how you want to see it, no one understands something like vitiligo and Lupus. He was treated like a freak by the media. Why would he want to tell them the truth when he did and they still didn't believe him. I don't blame him. He didn't have to hate himself. With the world and his father constantly being on his case about his looks, vitiligo and the debilitating disease that Lupus is, were not a help for someone with a deeply scared mental view of himself. No one needs to fess up about anything. I was young when his skin was fully white and I never said anything and I was born in 96. It could be bc of my sister, but I was never interested in his looks as much as his music and the videos. He was still a black man to me. The same thing he told people many of times and they still thought this man wanted to be white. So I don't blame him at all. They wouldn't listen then, why keep repeating yourself?
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Your comment is a much better than others
@@kelfx2853 Thank you. I just think it would be common sense. My sister unfortunately died from it after my comment. It's just people need to look at everything. He said it, they didn't believe him, he was a freak to them. But he was supposed to trust them? It's annoying. Just leave it alone. It didn't make a difference, he's dead now, just leave it alone. You know the answer. No, he wasn't obligated to tell a soul. No one is.
Please don't ignore me 🙏🏾. Sometimes it's very annoying people still talking more crap about Michael's change appearance and his skin. It's sad and really shocks me my heart. I'm not the biggest super fan of MJ, I don't listen his music and idolizing him but I never believed he had self hate issue and I never believed he was guilty as sin for hurting children like that. I believe he's innocent. Michael was always black on his life because God gave him born in black. He was born black man and died African American. No matter he will always be the king of music
@@kelfx2853 yeah people are ignorant when it comes to Michael Jackson. It shouldn't be a debate. Even he considered himself black until the end of his life.
I feel so pained for Michael though he's no more. I can imagine what he went through. I've happened to have disliked myself alot too and tried dealing with my insecurities by myself. I've been mocked at for having more or less of some parts of my body and it's been so traumatizing that at times I don't want to step out of the house. Seeing how courageous he was dealing with his shows despite the critics really encourages me. To an extent I think maybe he was bullied if not he won't have noticed the changes, and that's why he took the initiative of changing alot on his skin.
Michael was so strong and resilient. Despite of everything he kept moving forward. Everything about Michael was magic......
Com certeza durante os primeiros anos do vitiligo a pele dele devia voltar ao "normal" retomando a cor e depois clareando novamente, acho que com o tempo as manchas avançaram e acabou sendo muito mais fácil assumir o tom mais pálido, Michael sempre cobria o corpo o máximo que podia, sempre usando chapéu, óculos, maquiagem, é muito triste que ainda hoje as pessoas ainda continuem a fazer piadas com a aparência dele, ele fez o que podia para lidar com o vitiligo e o lupus, isso só me faz o admirar ainda mais.
Great job as always "the detail"! Anxiously waiting for part two 👍💖
Thank you!
Doesn't matter. At the end of the day he is the greatest artist that ever lived and was a pure soul ❤️ RIP michael jackson 🕊🕊
He was the most hyped artist that ever lived. The greatest artists never lip-synced.
@@onesong2001Still the greatest babe
@@cylasje You think the greatest singer was a lip-syncer? LOL You're really stupid. But don't worry. In the words of Michael Jackson "you are not alone"
@@onesong2001hate to break it to you but nearly every singer has lip synced in their career. At least Michael actually had an excuse. He was an amazing dancer to so i don’t blame him.😂😂
@@onesong2001 how many of them had to dance while singing? He did sing live and acapella many times.
I only wish we can begin to tell everyone in our circles that we love and accept them the way they look!
MJ could have had a better self esteem if he heard those words of acceptance over and over and over again!
I'm in my late 40s and grew up hearing about MJ even in Nigeria. I never really listened to his songs but of course they were regularly aired on many of our radio and television channels and I remembered well the day I noticed his skin colour change, I was somehow irritated.
But recently as an adult, I stumbled on his bio on TH-cam and I literally wept: because of how much he was misunderstood and because he's no longer here by the time the world got to understand his condition.
I wish he was here to hear some of the good things people say about him just because they had a better knowledge of his secret pains.
Two things:
1. Don't die in silence and don't live for people. Accept who you are, no matter what.
2. Love genuinely and accept people irrespective of what they look like and ensure you regularly verbalise your acceptance of them.
Cheers!
Very thorough take on MJ's skin. Great job. One thing that you may have missed is the 1991 song 'Word to the Badd!! by Jermaine Jackson that was leaked in 1991. It was and angry declaration directed towards MIchael with lyrics..."Once you were made, you changed your shade, was your color wrong?... could not turn back, it's a known fact, you were too far gone."
Wait I find your explanation about Thriller era so fascinating and eye-opening. He wasn’t trying to be lighter with lightening products, he was going too far with acne scarring treatments. Just like how he went too far with his nose, he didn’t know how to stop. Because in the 70s he was obsessed with both his acne and his nose from being made fun of. This makes so much sense. But I’m just confused on when exactly the struggle went from wanting an even complexion to battling vitiligo. I thought for the longest time that he battled vitiligo since the Off the wall era based on some photos that I know now were just perceived the wrong way by the fan community. I then realized that and the fact that he wasn’t actually diagnosed with vitiligo until 1986. Is it possible the acne scarring treatments induced a more vicious spreading of vitiligo when he probably only had a few spots on his body originally? I do know there are photos of him with almost unnoticeable vitiligo on his fingertips as a child and I do know that oddly enough it’s usually the groin area where people have the most vitiligo. That might’ve been the extent for him all his life up until 1986 when he realized it was a serious condition that was spreading and needed evaluating. Which once again not sure if it was aging or was he inducing it? Either way he started out always having a small amount of vitiligo and it’s just so amazing how he was able to lighten his skin so much BECAUSE those products work best on people with vitiligo. Without vitiligo he wouldn’t have been able to become the pale shade that he became. He was evening out his scars which in turn made him lighter than it would for the average black man because he had the underlying condition vitiligo (I’m kind of repeating myself at this point but I’m just trying to understand this fully). So it seems for the most part wasn’t even intended, right? I don’t know I think he only desired an even complexion and he thought getting lighter helped, and he ended up just making his vitiligo condition look worse. It’s really unfortunate. He went from obsessively(!) evening out his acne scars to obsessively evening out vitiligo. That’s the conclusion to me. This video just changed my ENTIRE perspective about his vitiligo, acne, and lupus and I’ve been a fan all my life.
While there was a great amount of Love for Michael, The world did him so dirty it's DISGUSTING. I wish more time was spent loving him for who he was and what he did for the world as far as Music.
So many people praise Michael. It sounds like you are only paying attention to negativity.
It must have been hell for Michael to be as famous as he was and deal with his vitiligo, and even worse the media trying to ridicule him.
He did so much for other people next to entertaining.
And yet there are always people with negative energy who love these propaganda stories!
So sad he had to live this way.
RIP Michael 🙏
Thanks so much @ the detail people have said all sorts about this man's skin disease.... the last quote was quite sad.. RIP Gone but not forgotten.
Michael aveva vitiligo, Solo che ci sono stati persone, che non hanno creduto che Michael avessi quella malattia.
Per me Michael era sempre bellissimo.
Ha sempre avuto e avrà per sempre il suo posto speciale nel mio cuore.
Micheal Jackson is forever 🌸🌼🥰👏💞🌷👑😄💙😘
I think his skin was definitely effected by vitiligo. Even tho I wished he kept his darker skin I understand this probably heavily effected one of the most popular individuals the world ever seen.
He had no choice. To be honest, can you imagine such a great musician to go on stage and he looks white and someone has thrown a cup of coffee on him? It would have been so irritating for his fans. Every performer has to look good, that is a part of the job! Michael looked always attractive, no matter what kind of skin tone he had. He had such a classic and unique style in clothes and it always matched the kind of music and dance he performed.
Michael Jackson was black and beautiful all the way, even in his death, La Toya said he looked fabulous at his funeral.
The change of skin tone only intensifies the other worldly quality of Michael
Майкл говорил своей дочери: "помни, ты - чёрная". Принц унаследовал болезнь отца. Так что все, кто сомневаются в отцовстве Майкла, пусть заткнутся. МДж самый крутой мужчина на Земле. ✌
As both a fan and sceptic of MJ, I cannot believe that he did plastic surgery and applied products to his skin because he wanted to be white. In fact, when they were getting ready to script and film his documentary, he said it would be humiliating for a white man to play him.
And, kind of as a side note, the speculation of him being LGBTQ weirds me out because he clearly wrote songs about romance with girls, was openly an heterosexual, Jehovah's Witness, and married Lisa Marie Presley!!
Thanks for making this video and I hope that more people appreciate him for who he was and the music he wrote. Just a man under terrible circumstances who did his best and wanted to be generous. And, even though it could be true, it's hard for me to believe he hurt children with the heart he had to protect, educate, and bring them healthy homes.
God Bless!
Thank you!
It started in the thriller era because on the victory tour in Toronto when performing human nature you can see it on his hands and fingertips. You can also notice it during the 84 grammys on his fingers.
It is a known fact to everybody in the Dermatological field that vitiligo causes pigmentation areas and patches over the skin however since Michael was in the public eye and nobody knew anything about his Vitiligo until 1993 then I know for a fact that the white glove with sequins was the first signs of the disease and he had advisors advised him that his Vitiligo would get progressively worse and would inevitably cover a lot of his surface area of skin so it was the decision to lighten the darker areas so that way it will blend in better with makeup when he applies it most people who have done this though would use Brown Makeup but Michael for whatever reason used whiter makeup and he did not change himself completely White you can see that in 1985 it was just a tiny bit lighter than he was on Thriller and then in 1987 he was a little bit paler but again not completely White and even in 91 and 92 though he was paler he was more yellow. It is common knowledge in the medical field that lightening cream was a common treatment for Vitiligo and some cases is still used to lighten the darker areas with a steroid cream. many people use it today and Freckle lighteners or skin eveners and they don't even realize they're using a skin bleaching cream to help lighten hyperpigmentation of the skin in little dots people will put a hyperpigmentation cream on that is a skin lightening cream. He made the decision to gradually lighten the rest of his body so that way when he sweat during a performance. cuz you got to understand if Michael Jackson was on stage he gave everything he had he gave 125% every single time he stepped out on that stage and he sweated more than any pop star I've ever seen in my life if you can see on the dangerous tour whenever he comes out for jam and he takes us some lessons on he's already drenched and sweat so even with the heaviest makeup and heaviest powder it would not be completely possible to have a makeup so thick that it will not be sweated off because the worst thing that can happen is him being on stage and his makeup running off to reveal the white patches underneath. So he is not lightning his skin tone because he does not want to be black he's lightening it because it was advised in by a professional and a doctor and if this is the best treatment as it will progress to the point where it will already be mostly White so he did. Michael Jackson did not hate being black and fat even though he got wider his music stayed black and very very Soulful if you look with dangerous and history it is very apparent and beautiful that he loves his race and believes it's beautiful. One thing people don't really know is Michael had a form of body dysmorphia and he was never satisfied with anything and he has a perfectionist and since he had the money and the means and the time he figured if I could have an afford a new nose and a new chin why not most and more people back in the day and even today if they had the money much all to their appearance in some way either with botox or filler in the lips. Michael Jackson towards the later end of his life hated the decisions he's made with plastic surgery and did not like looking at himself in the mirror. He ended up getting his first rhinoplasty in 1978 after filming The Wiz but he had breathing problems and he could not breathe very well through his nose and was still not satisfied with the size of it. So in 1981 to 82 he received a second rhinoplasty which is what we see on Thriller which is probably the best in my opinion it should have stopped right there he was so cute. His third rhinoplasty came in 1984 right before the victory tour and still being unsatisfied with it he opted for a fourth rhinoplasty in 1987 or 86 than ever and added a cleft chin. Then a Fifth rhinoplasty and either a mini brow lift or facelift in 1991 then he opted for a sixth and 1993. However this rhinoplasty would end up being the most botched of all and whenever they sewed his nose back up on the sides so much of his skin had been cut off and his Bridge of his nose had been filed so thinly that after they sewed the two sides the tip of it which had an implant placed underneath grocery the skin and a black hole probably the size of an eraser head was at the very tip of the nose and to his dying day that little hole never got closed and he was said to been found with boxes of boxes of nose tips when he was discovered after he passed. He would tape the tip on and his makeup artist would apply makeup over it and it was very apparent and it made it very difficult to perform on stage because of how much he sweats he would sweat it off and every place so during the history tour he would have opportunities after each song to go in the back and try his face off and make sure the tape is still on and do some touch-up powder it was a tiny little black hole that had little pieces sticking out of it. the nose tip had died and it was necrotic. He also got another facelift or brown lift or eye surgery in 1997 because in 2001 he really looked bad in 2001 they did another operation on his nose to attempt to rebuild it because it is basically collapsed and was unfunctional and they grafted and tried to close the hole but we're unsuccessful. but ended up going and building up a bridge a little bit with ear cartilage, to improve his breathing. but this revision didn't improve it much n MJ still had to breathe through his mouth alot because nomatter what they did, the size of his nostrils would remain tiny triangles. I am not just one of his fans who are defending him and saying no Michael did not bleach his skin ever he had Vitiligo and just use makeup I'm not also a fan who's saying and only knowing this one circumstance to base their judgment off of. You see I have a lot of knowledge of vitiligo because Vitiligo runs in a part of my family. My uncle's wife has Vitiligo and so does the majority of her family. She never used the cream she just covered hers up with makeup but her sister actually went through with the dermatologist advice and lighten the rest of her body with the cream in the 70s and so did my aunts mother. It is an extremely long process to lighten one's skin. It takes years and it never gets white at the most extremely light light gray. It will never get completely White it'll only just get extremely lighter and grayer and you can see after when he's performing some of the gray peeking through makeup. So yes lightening the darker areas is a treatment option for those suffering from vitiligo in the present and in the past. Your calling my aunts sister and mother a liar? So I guess their lightened skin and gray complexion isn't evidence enough. And my aunt was told the same thing by the same doctor. They said it was uncommon for as many people in the family to have it as they do, but they do. They were picked on and treated like freaks and my aunt sister and mother only wanted them to not harass them and people not to stare at them anymore so this is why they took the doctors advice and began the long process of bleaching ones skin. they really regret it now tho
An enlightening, revealing video, rich in details and truthful information. What we saw here demystifies the entire issue surrounding his skin. Congratulation on the video.
Thank you! I created the video with all the info I wanted to see
Your work is so meticulous. It impresses me every single video. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
I like his music but I’m not the biggest fan, it’s his human side that makes me love him so much. This channel showed a whole new side to Michael, a side that I can relate to
His insecurities about his skin resonate with me so much
Thank you!
I love this channel it’s so informative and also not at unrealistic or bias about Michael and his life you guys do a great deal of research and are always on the mark 💜
Thank you highly appreciate your love, unsurprisingly I was very concerned about the public reaction to this channel addressing this topic ✨
Right on! Ditto.
This man will always be fascinating to me. No matter how much information comes out, it's still so unclear what the full truth is. He always wanted to be a mystery, and he a achieved it
5:08 - To your point about the rash, it was actually very indicative of lupus. This type of rash is a common occurrence amongst victims of lupus. It is known as the butterfly rash or malar rash.
6:07 - As to your point about the Victory Tour, there is evidence that he had started wearing makeup to cover up his vitiligo. Michael stated that he was diagnosed with vitiligo right after Thriller. Pictures of his makeup kit during the Victory Tour can attest to this. His makeup kit consisted primarily of a product called Dermablend. This is a high-pigment makeup created to cover burns, scars, and skin discolorations. Many people with vitiligo use this product as a sort of cover stick for the entire face. Due to the fact that it makes the entire surface of your skin one color, you have to use a few shades to avoid looking mask-like, and it’s very difficult to achieve a natural look. This also explains the more androgynous look that started around this time period, as you also have to provide color for everything else on your face - lips, eyelashes, bush, eyeshadow. As his skin progressively lightened, he used lighter shades of the product (which comes in tones for a variety of skin tones for a variety of skin colors). By the way, to avoid the presumption that Michael used the makeup for any other reason besides vitiligo, I have to point out the fact that there are pictures of of his glove that was stained on the inside with the Dermablend that he used to cover the vitiligo on his hands. There are also photos during the Victory Tour where you can visibly see the lighter patches on his ear and nose, likely due to visible sweat on his face
8:46 - In the picture with Ryan White, his face is clearly lighter that it was during the Thriller era
Picture with Ryan White very clearly shows vitiligo's progress imo. You can clearly see the line, starting at about the same height as the top of his ears, running right below his eyes and down below his nose. Nose + forehead were still the original black, cheeks & the rest of his face were light. It seems obvious to me that they were adding makeup (or, well... the stuff you mentioned) to the light parts to make them blend in with the still originally black parts, but the line is still super visible - and it is on many different late 80s photos. Same line, same position on every one of them. I think the picture at 02:06 was photoshopped like that solely to point out where the line ran at that stage, though that one might not be 100% accurate.
In fact, it's already visible on the Thriller era photo at 04:45, just not as severe - only cheeks seem lighter here, darker parts still visible below his nose, across his mouth and on his chin as well. I doubt this is due to any creams whatsoever, it all looks like advancing vitiligo to me, especially since it's perfectly symmetrical across his face, which vitiligo always is.
I think this is why he still looked his original color on the photos after 07:50 - forehead and nose actually were, but the rest was makeup. Obviously it wasn't gonna take long after this for the nose and forehead pigment to be destroyed as well, which was done before Dangerous. Vitiligo has many degrees and the worst one does make you go pale completely. No doubt that's what he got. As to why the Bad cover was so heavily photoshopped - one could assume he wanted people to get used to what was to come. And preferred making it a gradual thing instead of shocking the world by releasing a pale white image of himself right after a fully dark one.
Thank you. I am a medical doctor and that was definitely a lupus caused malar rash. It does not have to be crusty like the video erroneously described.
@@babygurll7 THANK YOU. The detail is a hater channel the secretly trying to implant the same old false narratives about Michael into fans heads. He knows good and damn well that Michael's cheeks look like a molar rash. He knows what he's doing.
THANK YOU. The detail is a hater channel the secretly trying to implant the same old false narratives about Michael into fans heads. He knows good and damn well that Michael's cheeks look like a molar rash. He knows what he's doing. Its actually a very old hater tactic to try and push the idea that Michael somehow induced his vitiligo, which is stupid because something always triggers vitiligo in a person, so its just another clever way for them to demonize his and accuse him of trying to turn himself white.
@@void2695 6:14 so he really doesn't see the vitiligo on his lower neck , nose and cheeks???
you really did a lot of great research in this video and the other one or two about his appearance. great work and editing
Biggest Mj fan ever. But I feel like maybe the initial nose job was a catalyst to all of the cosmetic changes. He was confined and limited to black categories when it came to awards and radio play, so him wanting to change his appearance and sound sonically to fit a broader audience makes sense. Don’t think it had anything to do with him not wanting to be black but more so with wanting to reach a larger audience and set himself apart from the rest. The more he changed his appearance the more success he gained in the early 80s, so it makes sense why he chose to keep pushing the limit when it came to his look. It’s almost as if he wanted to be a completely different person with each album. It may have backfired later on but he gave us so many iconic looks and moments, I think he accomplished what he was initially trying to achieve.
I 100% agree with this.
I agree with you, doesn't downplay the significance of having had vitiligo but I think it would be stupid to aside from the skin totally disregard the other surgical "enhancements" I love Micheal though, such a unique and ethereal being
He had the most selling album of all times while his skin was black. His sale went low after the vitiligo started. His first surgery was due breaking his nose, then he needed a revision but due to lupus it never healed right. His sound was invented by him. He never wanted to appeal to white media, he always referred to himself as a proud black man.
It’s sad to see how being under the spotlight since a young age has made him feel so self conscious… but to me he will always be the king of pop/music.
Я люблю и ценю его за талант, а не цвет кожи.
he was special, an entertainer, a genius above us simple people
Excellent Job! I think Micheal himself would approve of this. You've explained every single thing he was going through but couldn't tell us cos how insecure it made him. Its sad to imagine how sad and broken he most likely was on the inside while still dedicating himself to making us all Happy😢
Black or white MJ will be forever loved and remembered as a kind and pure sole ❤️❤️❤️
I always thought MJ's transition was more gradual and linear, I didn't realise he went from dark to pale multiple times. I assumed after around 1985/86 he was tan, then from around 1991 he was pale.
Yeah that Noxema would destroy my skin too. I'm sure that's what caused the redness during the early and mid 80s. It sounds to me like Michael's face and hands were largely unaffected by the vitiligo during this time but harsh acne treatments were destroying his skin so he used make-up to cover it while his torso was affecting his torso and legs mostly. When the Vitiligo got out of control on his torso and legs he started to lighten his whole body which is why we didn't see white blotches on his hands and face, only gradual pigment changed. Michael just had bad skin. It's a shame that the media at large refused to except this truth. They just loved to make him suffer. Very shameful.
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It’s a shame but when you pair it with the excessive plastic surgery, it was hard for people not to see it as deliberate rather than debilitating.
@@elizabethschubert7803 He had no plastic surgery. In his autopsy they didn't find the scars of plastic surgery. The scars are normally under the chin and in front of the ears. They found only the scars he had when they placed a balloon under his burn wound, under the scull, so that Michael had more elasticity, which left him with migraines and insomnia. Michael had mostly dermal fillers from Dr. Klein, he said that in one of his trial, it's called Restylane. That was popular during that time. People don't do plastic surgery so much, because you need a long time to recover, the outcome is unpredictable, you have scars and after few years you need another surgery, and it's expensive. There are other better methods for performers, actors, entertainers, musician who are working in the public.
@@hannaz4617 Thank you for informing me, but what about his nose?
@@elizabethschubert7803 You are very welcome. I think he wanted to change his nose, because he was terrible teased by his father. His father called him "big nose". He had to do re-constructive surgeries of his nose, because the skin wouldn't heal, because of lupus. Have a great day, stay safe and healthy.
4:52 is when it started... It breaks my heart.
You can see he has a ton of white makeup on he wasnt even trying to use products that were his complexion...
His skin was irritated because he started using skin bleaching products..
He went to a "white person" party and wanted to be more white..
I wish you would've just loved yourself man...
This shit kills me
Its so sad how much trauma he endored and struggled with his issues in silence because of the image of fame. He was a sensitive soul that was scrutinized and made to feel ashamed for not being perfect. He was a humanitarian and deeply kind who didn't deserve his demise. Sorry for those who were cruel to you. I wish you realized how much louder the love is for you. 😍💓You will always be a star 🌟There will never be another like you ❣️
*_-Thank you Michael Jackson for staying strong!-_*
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If I was Michael, I would've used creams to even out the vitiligo too. Makeup could only do so much, especially while he's performing. He would just sweat it off anyway. On top of that, he was already wearing long sleeved shirts, jackets, etc in places where it was tropic/humid. Not to mention him carrying an umbrella. This is the same MJ that loved swimming pools, amusement parks, and traveling. You really think he jeopardized being outside because he "wanted white skin"?. Before his death, when was the last time you seen a picture/video of MJ outside with a short sleeved shirt on? Don't say "In The Closet" or "They Don't Care About Us (Brazil)" because those areas were:
A. Shaded or had cloud covering.
B. Was only for brief moments.
despite being a hardship for MJ, i believe God intended for every aspect of him. He was the greatest entertainer God put on this Earth and he said it himself his gift to music came from God. I believe he was a beacon for God's love and that God made him go through such a change to really show the world that we are all alike in His eyes, in the same way we see Michael for the wonderful and talented guy he was, with the same eyes, wether we are seeing him in his dark skin days or his light skin days. We see that he was always the same great guy, and that is how God sees all of us
I do believe Michael had a vitiligo. But at the same time for somebody who is not a fan of Michael Oher doesn’t know much of his life it’s kind of hard to tell them that he didn’t want to look or appear more white then he was black. It wasn’t just the skin but it was also his face that changed drastically in a short amount of time.
@Shadow_Dagger 666 exactly
2:06 it's an edit Michael Jackson Multiverse did himself to show how he would like without make up. He made an explanation long time ago since many people are using it as a real picture.