All these years and I had no idea there was a recall on this saw. So after seeing your video I decided to go online and just see if it was still effective. t is still an active recall. But, they require you to cut the electrical cord completely off the motor and to the yoke which disables the saw. Then they will send you $50. I am not destroying my saw for $50. I would rather have to guard.
@@mewmew32 Exactly. And I am still using this saw with no issues at all. I was hesitant at first to take out my cut-off saw and replace it with a radial arm saw but now I am glad I did.
Just a note, you can reset the arm to be square to the table by a allen screw on the back side of the column arm lock up at the top rear of the arm. You also, have to use two teeth with the carbine on the same side of the blade, usually every other tooth. This is a better way to square the arm to the table then to relocate the table holes. These saws are great, but the set up is very hard, and hard to understand, but once to get them setup, you can do more cuts than any other type of saw.
I just replaced the table on my Craftsman RAS this week. If you install the rails that the table bolts on to, flush with the top of the metal frame, you don’t have enough room to turn the up/down crank. You will bust your knuckles on the bottom of the wooden table. If you raise those two rails as high as they can go in the slotted bolt holes, you have just enough room to turn the crank without hitting the bottom of the table top.
I did this to my saw several years ago and kept the old parts I may change it back soon! It was kind of like an AR-15, it looked a whole lot scarier than it really was ,and it was much easier to change blades and accessories when needed without the new fangled guard!
There are another couple of models of Craftsman's radial arm saw than the one shown here. I have the Electronic model No. 113.198611. The kit was located online was HIGH$$, over $200. Worth every penny and more. If you do not have a safety guard, GET ONE. I did not have one two years ago and while ripping, I had a kick back that very nearly severed my thumb. I was very lucky. This guard would have prevented that accident. Be aware that there are two Repair Kits, 509344 and 509345. They cover a total of five models. Here is the list: 509344: Models 113.19810, 113.198111, 113.198210, 113.198211, 113.198250, 113.198251 509345: Models 113.198310, 113.198311, 113.198410, 113.198411, 113.198510, 113.198511, 113.198610, 113.198611. The label on the box had nothing to do with any of these numbers and may not had actually been the original box. The instructions were good, but I had to think more than I should have.
As of 08/2023 the recall consists of a $50 check to the owner of the saw after the owner submits photo proof of the saw cord being cut off and a signed affidavit that the saw will not be used. The whole purpose of this process is to absolve the company, Emerson Electric, of any future liability. There is no requirement that the saw has to be destroyed.
I am late to the party, but I’ll put my information out there anyway. You need to figure out where the saw is going to cut across that table. Then using your square mark a line from the back edge where your fence is going to be toward the front, then flip the square over and mark another line as close to the first as possible without being on top of the first line. The lines should be parallel. Pick a tooth on your blade and mark it. Line the blade up with the board on the back the pull the saw out as far as you can and see if the marked tooth is still on the line that you started with , if not adjust it so it is. Continue this process until the tooth follows the line from back to front perfectly. Your table is now square with your blade. If it don’t appear to be straight with the saw the swing may not be lock into the zero point. This should have been check first.
Personally I think a lazar pointer marking the path of the cut would be a much better safety feature. Look at your hand before the cut , if the lazar is shining on your hand 🖐 probably ought to move it. By the time you mess with all the crap they have mandated you have lost track of where your hand is!
First, verify your framing squasre *is* square. While I was instaling my RAS table, ,whenever I switched my framing square from left to right, things were out of whack. As i turns out, my framing square had been wracked out of square by persons unknown. (Although I have my suspicions. ;) I no longer trust framing squares without verifying the squareness first.
I have worked with RAS's commercially since 1973 for a local architectural woodworking company, and I just retired last year. I inherited a craftsman 10" RAS from my father in law. No safety guard on it. The one that I see here @ 20:59 is a joke and dangerous. These saws are inherently dangerous, just like guns. These are magnificent working machines if properly set up and RESPECTED! If you think that these are dangerous and scare the poo out of you, good. If they don't, then you shouldn't be any where near one!
I thought it would be helpful to do a general information video to make some sense out of those instructions translated from foreign text. I say this because I used to be a technical writer for a foreign auto maker, and that was precisely my job description. Thanks for your nice comment, Bruce.
Hey I was just wondering how you got your replacment parts and if their still giving them out I have a saw just like yours. And if it not to much to ask do you know anything about the router par of this saw or any additional attachments. Thanks for your time.
What it looks like is that the plane of the blade is not parallel to the plane of the arm. There is a way to adjust that where the bearings ride along the arm. Take the bearing covers off on either side of the arm and you will see where to make that adjustment. (I can't remember how it adjusts right now...maybe the bearings are on cam screws...which also adjust how tight the bearings are to the guides. When I look at mine, I'll edit this post.
You need to get the correct saw blade for this saw. You really need a blade with a -5 degree hook blade. Sears sells one, it's not too expensive and works pretty well.
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I just bought a 10'' Craftsman Radial arm saw like the one you used in video. It doesn't the updates on it does Craftsman still send out the updated parts ?
Can you please make a video talking about the new guard and how it helps? I don't understand how it works from watching this video. What does the new handle do?
To be honest, the modification does restrict the movement of this saw. I wish I could do another video explaining what you're asking for, but I sold this saw some time ago.
Emerson no longer provides the safety kit. They "claim" people were still having problems with the retro fit. They no longer produce the kit . The adjustment screws for the table in the back and the table would have made it much safer . Not sure this is legal as they had a court order to make the saw safer. They demand you destroy your saw for 50 bucks. Not kidding. Waiting for more law suits.
Are you still using your RAS? I have never used one. But now seeing that the newer RAS have a riving knife on them, I honestly think this would make them safer than a table saw, on large pieces of wood being ripped. Because on a table saw, at the last part of the cut, if the wood twists, and you don't have a riving knife, the blade can grab the wood and eject it over the top of the blade and literally kill a person (read stories of kickbacks!). On a RAS, the risk of a kickback is high, but you don't have your hands positioned right over the top of the blade, like you do with a table saw.
@@Ritalie Very late in replying but, yes, I still use my 1976 Sears RAS here going into 2024. The guard on it looks identical to the original one being replaced in Frank's video. My chances of getting this upgrade are precisely zero! The debate over which of the RAS or the table saw is more dangerous will never end I guess. After 48 years of occasional use, I am comfortable with ripping on my RAS. I always am aware of what can go wrong. I use all the safety devices I can, including pushsticks and engaging both the splitting wheel and the anti-kickback pawls as well as safety glasses.
Brought home a saw from an auction today. Searched the web with intention to restore. Cut the cord and submitted a claim for their paltry $50. I would rather have received a repair package but apparently they have been discontinued. Evidently at great savings to the company.
Kits are all gone, sears is gone and I'm not sure if you can even get 25 bucks for the motor anymore,if you have one use it with the safety equipment, I have a newer version and an older one I'm not giving them up as scrap.
I'm almost done with the retrofit thanks to this video ... however, I'm feeling really dumb ... I can't figure out how to install the blade AFTER I get the guard onto the arbor like you have it at 20:00 minutes in. You show the guard without the blade installed. Also, the screw for the red pointer was too small for the thread on the new handle, so I used a #6 metric bolt and a nut on the underside to mount the pointer.
I set up CNC equipment for Mazak as a field service engineer and it takes some time to be able to do it without mistakes so maybe a few attempts would eliminate do-overs but overall you did a good job.
Anyone have a link or place where I can get the retro fit safety kit? I recently purchased one of these older models which does not have this kit installed.
You keep using that T square on the front of the table. That’s not where your fence will be. You should be using the back side where the fence is. Some decent info tho. I just picked me up one of theses. 👍🏼
I just recently (5/2021) found out about the recall and of course have missed getting a retro-fit kit for my 1987 saw. I'm trying to figure out what parts I would need to get (probably off of ebay) to have a fully functional retro-fit Guard Assembly. Although the retro-fit kit used in this video (509346) is different from the one I'd need for my saw (509344), many of the steps are the same and I found this video extremely informative and useful (thanks for posting). It does seem as though you are using your new Spacer Table as the fence instead of laying it flat between the Front and Back Tables as is shown in the owner's manual (i.e. page 19). Is there a reason for doing this (I see you are using a 2x4 to make up the space difference)? I don't believe the retro-fit kits came with a fence. I read that the expectation is that one would have multiple fences (self provided), one for each angle of cut (so the fence is not weaken by multiple cuts) and a fence for ripping (with no cuts in it).
Thanks for your critique, Craig. I shot this video to market this saw, so I would have made some serious changes if I decided to keep it. The equipment that you see here was the original equipment that came with the saw when I purchased it.
When I sent mine in for the recall they sent me a box for the guard and motor to be sent back and I would receive a $100. but said nothing about sending me back nothing but the $100. It says my saw will be permanently disabled....
But u DID get that $100 check eventually, correct? If so, & if you recall, how long was the whole process, from the time u put in the return box order, to receiving the check?
Why use a feeler gauge on a plastic tip ? Use the other side of the motor shaft ( on the saw side ) Put your arm on one corner of the table, lock tight, and procede the same for the four corners without moving it. Square the back side of the table with the traveling of the saw blade. That all. !!
When I watch this video it becomes obvious how much effort others take in studying whatever they are working on and rehearsing prior to turning on the camera. Is it my imagination, or does it look like this saw was pulled out of a storage unit just to make this video? Also, there is no point trying to adjust the table brackets with the saw on an uneven surface.
I just inherited an old model 113.196321 and trying to rebuild it. Can anyone give me the actual dimensions of the tabletop pieces Front, rear and spacer?? they are not in the manual I have. Thanks
This video was done a year ago. Sears might have stopped offering the retrofit kit, or at least stopped offering the retrofit kit for certain models. How old was your saw?
Your Order #: XXXXX Thank you for placing your order online. You should receive a return box in approximately 6-8 weeks . If you do not receive a return box within 8 weeks or you have any additional questions please contact Customer Service at 1-800-511-2628. This is promising. I had no idea this one was a qualifying one... I hope I can get a retrofit kit... I don't want to have a useless saw/no saw. I love this thing.
I bought the same saw. Didn't use it. Was like new from the original owner. Got the fix kit but could not install it . So it is just sitting in the shop not being used. Too much work to do the fix . Good video you made. I'm still wary of this saw.
I tried to get the kit and it's no longer available from Emerson. Do you know where I can still find the safety kit or a manufacturer/supplier that would have the parts? Thanks - Tim
I've heard that the kit was available for a limited time which has now passed, but they are still offering the $100 rebate. You might try calling the offices of Craftsman tools to see if the kit is available through another means. I produce replacement tables for these saws, but I don't offer any other productions parts.
There is no limit as to how much rebates one address can turn in the motor and carriage for. If what People in this comments section are saying is true for all retrofit kits - that there isn’t anymore left - then anybody turning in any motor and carriage assembly is doing them a favor, by taking liability out of the field as much as possible. I’m working on my seventh motor and carriage, started November 2018. It is now the beginning of January 2019 and I haven’t gotten my first check yet but I have faith they will do the deed. Aloha
From what I understand, this recall ended a few years back. Apparently, Craftsman is now offering an incentive to turn in your saw for $100, albeit, this may not be available with the demise of the Craftsman brand (Stanley Tools purchased them).
I have inherited a RAS and am trying to decide if I am comfortable/safe operating this beast as is, or to pursue the $100 recall. Re this video: if the stand is slightly out of square, won't this be taken care of when I adjust the arm mitre angle so the zero-notch position is dead on? Or am I missing something?
I know this was a year ago but if you haven't sent the motor off. look up craftsman 113.199250 manuals should find a pdf will tell you all the adjustments you need to know. 3 set screws on the back adjust the arm. keep the saw man, or sell it to someone who will use it, I spent 150$ on mine very happy that I got a good economical saw.
@@frankhamilton8257 my dad passed in 98. His saw sat idle in his shop until my mom passed in 08. I cleaned out his shop and finally started going through and setting up his tools in my shop one year ago. Just by chance I found out about the re-call. Called about the kit and the was told in so many words, sorry Charlie, no more kits available and your out of luck.
I heard that the retrofit kit is no longer available for these saws due to a statute of limitations, not to mention that the company has been purchased by Stanley. You can try looking at the Craftsman tools website.
Cut a piece of plywood that is square drill a hole the exact size of the arbor and install it like it was the blade then bring it down to the table then use your square you will be almost dead on brother
I would imagine that they're induction motors because I've never had an issue where I thought that I had to replace brushes. I couldn't tell you for sure, though.
You might try searching "Sears Craftsman Radial Arm saw recall". Trying using the browser on a home computer and a mobile device because you'll get different results on both.
304jeep304 There are four parts. The front is about 40” X 18”. Then you have the board for material guide and two back boards that push against the guide board to secure it in place using the two clamps that tighten against the rear most boards. There is a really good design for a better base board with sacrificial board on top designed by Mr Sawdust. Just search google or TH-cam.
Unfortunately they aren't offering these kits anymore. I guess Emerson stopped it on July 23, 2019. Now they just want you to destroy the saw by cutting off the power cord and sending them pictures that you did it. Oh, but they'll pay you a whopping $50 if you prove you destroyed this perfectly good saw... crazy!
I called the sears company and they said they did not send parts to fix up the radial arem saw, they would send me a 50 dollar refund to sent the saw and they would destroy it. CAn anybody explain this to me??
Craftsman used to provide a safety conversion kit for their premium radial arm saw, you may still be able to find one out there from a private party, however, Craftsman has long since ended their offer on this kit. Most recently, Stanley Bostich has purchased the Craftsman brand.
well, I tried... Now they want you to completely disable the saw, take pictures, and they'll send you a $50 check. Mine was definitely recalled ~sigh~ my luck and HECK NO, I'm not ruining a perfectly good saw!
Does anyone know where to get a retro kit for my saw. It was my dads and he gave it to me recently. I called Sears about the retro guard kit. It is no longer available. Any ideas? I have a 10" radial arm saw that met the requirement, but no kits available. Any help out there would be greatly appreciated.
I've had a number of inquiries about this. I believe that Craftsman was required by a court order to offer these retrofit kits for a limited time which has now passed. The only thing I do now is the tables for these saws.
Yeah, I get a lot of that. The program ended a few years back. Meanwhile there are a lot of people with these saws that weren't aware that there was ever a retrofit program.
I have two of these same saws 75 77 used them in my cabinet shop for years I'm retired now and have never had any safety issues with them people are STUPID!!! keep your hands away from the blade at all times I also have one of the older ones 60s sometime they are set up for doing different jobs I also have 3 table saws set up for different jobs I still work in my shop and help people out with small repairs and on their cabinets at 70 I still have all my fingers after 50 plus years of making cabinets and carpentry and wood milling I realize that accidents happen paying attention is the key don't do anything stupid I feel badly for craftsmen having a payout for STUPID people it's not their fault when you buy something like these tools you and only you are responsible for your safety not the manufacturer law suits hurt the company's and the consumer's we pay in the end for your unsafe actions!!!🤔
A number of TH-camrs have told me that the safety recall kit is no longer available for their models. I sell the replacement tables, but not the complete safety recall kit. Feel free to call me at 714-574-1544.
I've heard from a few people about this kit. Apparently, there must have been a statute of limitations on getting the upgrade for this saw. I know that they're offering a $100 rebate in lieu of providing the kit. I found out about the kit by accident, so I was fortunate to have capitalized on it. I don't have the recall information any more because it's been quite some time since I got my upgrade equipment. Try typing Craftsman Radial Arm Saw recall into your browser.
now the deal is if you order the recall they will send you a box for yo to put your motor and carriage for 100$ and it states they are doing it to make sure the machine will never be used again. I know I just paid 150.00 for my saw last week the kit would be nice for mine but very happy as is. Sending my motor off for 100$ is ridiculous then what scrap the frame.
I remember when they sent me the notice about the safety recall. I checked into it and what the fix was, although I don't think there was a problem to begin with. But the fix was a clusterf*ck and not at all a safety fix. It looked like it would be more dangerous to use with the fix than how I was using it since I bought the saw. I told them no thanks, I like it just the way it is now. They also wanted me to sell it back to them for some stupid amount. I would have to cut the cord and send them the motor assembly and they would give me some stupid low amount of money. I told them thanks but no thanks. Don't call me, I'll call you. It would be difficult to line up your blade for accurate cuts with all that junk on the blade cover, I think even more dangerous. All because some dipsh*ts don't know how to use care and pay attention when using the saw. This is the same kind of dumbass that would poke his eye out when using a screwdriver.
Old cast Seers are good,but best were their 12 " commercial grade. What you have are what give Radials a bad name. I have a Delta 12" commercial I'll have nothing less. Get rid of what you have it's junk . 😎
All these years and I had no idea there was a recall on this saw. So after seeing your video I decided to go online and just see if it was still effective. t is still an active recall. But, they require you to cut the electrical cord completely off the motor and to the yoke which disables the saw. Then they will send you $50. I am not destroying my saw for $50. I would rather have to guard.
yep, apparently they decided any tools more than 20 years old belong in the trash. wish the court had something to say about that...
@@mewmew32 Exactly. And I am still using this saw with no issues at all. I was hesitant at first to take out my cut-off saw and replace it with a radial arm saw but now I am glad I did.
Just a note, you can reset the arm to be square to the table by a allen screw on the back side of the column arm lock up at the top rear of the arm. You also, have to use two teeth with the carbine on the same side of the blade, usually every other tooth.
This is a better way to square the arm to the table then to relocate the table holes. These saws are great, but the set up is very hard, and hard to understand, but once to get them setup, you can do more cuts than any other type of saw.
I just replaced the table on my Craftsman RAS this week. If you install the rails that the table bolts on to, flush with the top of the metal frame, you don’t have enough room to turn the up/down crank. You will bust your knuckles on the bottom of the wooden table. If you raise those two rails as high as they can go in the slotted bolt holes, you have just enough room to turn the crank without hitting the bottom of the table top.
Think there screws on the motor to plumb and square the blade to the fence.
Great information, I picked one of these up cheap. My dad had one of these growing up and I loved using it. Thanks for sharing
I did this to my saw several years ago and kept the old parts I may change it back soon! It was kind of like an AR-15, it looked a whole lot scarier than it really was ,and it was much easier to change blades and accessories when needed without the new fangled guard!
Thanks for the video as I just acquired a 1979 craftsman for free as of today.
There are another couple of models of Craftsman's radial arm saw than the one shown here. I have the Electronic model No. 113.198611. The kit was located online was HIGH$$, over $200. Worth every penny and more. If you do not have a safety guard, GET ONE. I did not have one two years ago and while ripping, I had a kick back that very nearly severed my thumb. I was very lucky. This guard would have prevented that accident. Be aware that there are two Repair Kits, 509344 and 509345. They cover a total of five models. Here is the list:
509344: Models 113.19810, 113.198111, 113.198210, 113.198211, 113.198250, 113.198251
509345: Models 113.198310, 113.198311, 113.198410, 113.198411, 113.198510, 113.198511, 113.198610, 113.198611.
The label on the box had nothing to do with any of these numbers and may not had actually been the original box.
The instructions were good, but I had to think more than I should have.
Also 113.197751
As of 08/2023 the recall consists of a $50 check to the owner of the saw after the owner submits photo proof of the saw cord being cut off and a signed affidavit that the saw will not be used. The whole purpose of this process is to absolve the company, Emerson Electric, of any future liability. There is no requirement that the saw has to be destroyed.
I am late to the party, but I’ll put my information out there anyway. You need to figure out where the saw is going to cut across that table. Then using your square mark a line from the back edge where your fence is going to be toward the front, then flip the square over and mark another line as close to the first as possible without being on top of the first line. The lines should be parallel. Pick a tooth on your blade and mark it. Line the blade up with the board on the back the pull the saw out as far as you can and see if the marked tooth is still on the line that you started with , if not adjust it so it is. Continue this process until the tooth follows the line from back to front perfectly. Your table is now square with your blade. If it don’t appear to be straight with the saw the swing may not be lock into the zero point. This should have been check first.
Personally I think a lazar pointer marking the path of the cut would be a much better safety feature. Look at your hand before the cut , if the lazar is shining on your hand 🖐 probably ought to move it. By the time you mess with all the crap they have mandated you have lost track of where your hand is!
First, verify your framing squasre *is* square. While I was instaling my RAS table, ,whenever I switched my framing square from left to right, things were out of whack. As i turns out, my framing square had been wracked out of square by persons unknown. (Although I have my suspicions. ;)
I no longer trust framing squares without verifying the squareness first.
I have worked with RAS's commercially since 1973 for a local architectural woodworking company, and I just retired last year. I inherited a craftsman 10" RAS from my father in law. No safety guard on it. The one that I see here @ 20:59 is a joke and dangerous. These saws are inherently dangerous, just like guns. These are magnificent working machines if properly set up and RESPECTED! If you think that these are dangerous and scare the poo out of you, good. If they don't, then you shouldn't be any where near one!
Retro fit or not, an excellent demo on how to align this saw, even using a "steel yardstick" as a feeler gauge. Thank you Frank!
I thought it would be helpful to do a general information video to make some sense out of those instructions translated from foreign text. I say this because I used to be a technical writer for a foreign auto maker, and that was precisely my job description. Thanks for your nice comment, Bruce.
Hey I was just wondering how you got your replacment parts and if their still giving them out I have a saw just like yours. And if it not to much to ask do you know anything about the router par of this saw or any additional attachments. Thanks for your time.
What it looks like is that the plane of the blade is not parallel to the plane of the arm. There is a way to adjust that where the bearings ride along the arm. Take the bearing covers off on either side of the arm and you will see where to make that adjustment. (I can't remember how it adjusts right now...maybe the bearings are on cam screws...which also adjust how tight the bearings are to the guides. When I look at mine, I'll edit this post.
Michael Valentino . Thanks for your input, Michael.
You need to get the correct saw blade for this saw. You really need a blade with a -5 degree hook blade. Sears sells one, it's not too expensive and works pretty well.
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At 9:00 rotating the motor 90 degrees would make access to the screw much easier.
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I just bought a 10'' Craftsman Radial arm saw like the one you used in video. It doesn't the updates on it does Craftsman still send out the updated parts ?
From my understanding, Craftsman discontinued the retrofit, so now they're offering cash if you disable the saw.
Can you please make a video talking about the new guard and how it helps? I don't understand how it works from watching this video. What does the new handle do?
To be honest, the modification does restrict the movement of this saw. I wish I could do another video explaining what you're asking for, but I sold this saw some time ago.
Emerson no longer provides the safety kit. They "claim" people were still having problems with the retro fit. They no longer produce the kit . The adjustment screws for the table in the back and the table would have made it much safer . Not sure this is legal as they had a court order to make the saw safer. They demand you destroy your saw for 50 bucks. Not kidding. Waiting for more law suits.
I must destroy my saw! Oh no, where did it go? I will find it and destroy it!
you have the saw bolted to the stand, could the stand have been twisted and it's keeping the saw from being square? Just a thought
Gasp! Now I learn the RAS I have been using since March 1976 is unsafe? About four years since Sears Canada went outt'a business entirely?
Are you still using your RAS? I have never used one. But now seeing that the newer RAS have a riving knife on them, I honestly think this would make them safer than a table saw, on large pieces of wood being ripped. Because on a table saw, at the last part of the cut, if the wood twists, and you don't have a riving knife, the blade can grab the wood and eject it over the top of the blade and literally kill a person (read stories of kickbacks!). On a RAS, the risk of a kickback is high, but you don't have your hands positioned right over the top of the blade, like you do with a table saw.
@@Ritalie Very late in replying but, yes, I still use my 1976 Sears RAS here going into 2024. The guard on it looks identical to the original one being replaced in Frank's video. My chances of getting this upgrade are precisely zero!
The debate over which of the RAS or the table saw is more dangerous will never end I guess.
After 48 years of occasional use, I am comfortable with ripping on my RAS. I always am aware of what can go wrong. I use all the safety devices I can, including pushsticks and engaging both the splitting wheel and the anti-kickback pawls as well as safety glasses.
You need to put your square on the fence side of the table. The table itself could be out and the fence side is all that matters at this point.
Thanks for the input, Michael.
Brought home a saw from an auction today. Searched the web with intention to restore. Cut the cord and submitted a claim for their paltry $50. I would rather have received a repair package but apparently they have been discontinued. Evidently at great savings to the company.
Kits are all gone, sears is gone and I'm not sure if you can even get 25 bucks for the motor anymore,if you have one use it with the safety equipment, I have a newer version and an older one I'm not giving them up as scrap.
I'm almost done with the retrofit thanks to this video ... however, I'm feeling really dumb ... I can't figure out how to install the blade AFTER I get the guard onto the arbor like you have it at 20:00 minutes in. You show the guard without the blade installed.
Also, the screw for the red pointer was too small for the thread on the new handle, so I used a #6 metric bolt and a nut on the underside to mount the pointer.
Is the retrofit still available? Thanks.
I set up CNC equipment for Mazak as a field service engineer and it takes some time to be able to do it without mistakes so maybe a few attempts would eliminate do-overs but overall you did a good job.
Thanks for the input, Tom.
Anyone have a link or place where I can get the retro fit safety kit? I recently purchased one of these older models which does not have this kit installed.
You keep using that T square on the front of the table. That’s not where your fence will be. You should be using the back side where the fence is. Some decent info tho. I just picked me up one of theses. 👍🏼
Not a T square, just a square.... 2 different tools.
I just recently (5/2021) found out about the recall and of course have missed getting a retro-fit kit for my 1987 saw. I'm trying to figure out what parts I would need to get (probably off of ebay) to have a fully functional retro-fit Guard Assembly. Although the retro-fit kit used in this video (509346) is different from the one I'd need for my saw (509344), many of the steps are the same and I found this video extremely informative and useful (thanks for posting). It does seem as though you are using your new Spacer Table as the fence instead of laying it flat between the Front and Back Tables as is shown in the owner's manual (i.e. page 19). Is there a reason for doing this (I see you are using a 2x4 to make up the space difference)? I don't believe the retro-fit kits came with a fence. I read that the expectation is that one would have multiple fences (self provided), one for each angle of cut (so the fence is not weaken by multiple cuts) and a fence for ripping (with no cuts in it).
Thanks for your critique, Craig. I shot this video to market this saw, so I would have made some serious changes if I decided to keep it. The equipment that you see here was the original equipment that came with the saw when I purchased it.
When I sent mine in for the recall they sent me a box for the guard and motor to be sent back and I would receive a $100. but said nothing about sending me back nothing but the $100. It says my saw will be permanently disabled....
But u DID get that $100 check eventually, correct? If so, & if you recall, how long was the whole process, from the time u put in the return box order, to receiving the check?
Hola deseo un contacto necesito repuestos para radial de 10" especifico garruchas para un buen desplazamiento
I only use a radial arm saw in my shop
The saw is not unsafe, the people who get inured are using unsafe procedures.
Why use a feeler gauge on a plastic tip ? Use the other side of the motor shaft ( on the saw side ) Put your arm on one corner of the table, lock tight, and procede
the same for the four corners without moving it. Square the back side of the table with the traveling of the saw blade. That all. !!
What year is yours
Check your bent square
When I watch this video it becomes obvious how much effort others take in studying whatever they are working on and rehearsing prior to turning on the camera. Is it my imagination, or does it look like this saw was pulled out of a storage unit just to make this video? Also, there is no point trying to adjust the table brackets with the saw on an uneven surface.
I just inherited an old model 113.196321 and trying to rebuild it. Can anyone give me the actual dimensions of the tabletop pieces Front, rear and spacer?? they are not in the manual I have. Thanks
I just submitted my 10" 113-197750 saw and they didn't give me an option for the retrofit kit. $100 rebate was my only option. We'll see in 6-8 weeks
This video was done a year ago. Sears might have stopped offering the retrofit kit, or at least stopped offering the retrofit kit for certain models. How old was your saw?
1977
Your Order #: XXXXX
Thank you for placing your order online. You should receive a return box in approximately 6-8 weeks . If you do not receive a return box within 8 weeks or you have any additional questions please contact Customer Service at 1-800-511-2628.
This is promising. I had no idea this one was a qualifying one... I hope I can get a retrofit kit... I don't want to have a useless saw/no saw. I love this thing.
Derp. That one is to render the saw useless from my understanding they want you to mail them the motor
I bought the same saw. Didn't use it. Was like new from the original owner. Got the fix kit but could not install it . So it is just sitting in the shop not being used. Too much work to do the fix . Good video you made. I'm still wary of this saw.
I tried to get the kit and it's no longer available from Emerson. Do you know where I can still find the safety kit or a manufacturer/supplier that would have the parts? Thanks - Tim
I've heard that the kit was available for a limited time which has now passed, but they are still offering the $100 rebate. You might try calling the offices of Craftsman tools to see if the kit is available through another means. I produce replacement tables for these saws, but I don't offer any other productions parts.
Thanks for the reply. I wonder if they only send one rebate per address?
There is no limit as to how much rebates one address can turn in the motor and carriage for. If what People in this comments section are saying is true for all retrofit kits - that there isn’t anymore left - then anybody turning in any motor and carriage assembly is doing them a favor, by taking liability out of the field as much as possible. I’m working on my seventh motor and carriage, started November 2018. It is now the beginning of January 2019 and I haven’t gotten my first check yet but I have faith they will do the deed. Aloha
Does anyone know how and who to contact ???????????Never received a recall notice
From what I understand, this recall ended a few years back. Apparently, Craftsman is now offering an incentive to turn in your saw for $100, albeit, this may not be available with the demise of the Craftsman brand (Stanley Tools purchased them).
I have inherited a RAS and am trying to decide if I am comfortable/safe operating this beast as is, or to pursue the $100 recall. Re this video: if the stand is slightly out of square, won't this be taken care of when I adjust the arm mitre angle so the zero-notch position is dead on? Or am I missing something?
I know this was a year ago but if you haven't sent the motor off. look up craftsman 113.199250 manuals should find a pdf will tell you all the adjustments you need to know. 3 set screws on the back adjust the arm. keep the saw man, or sell it to someone who will use it, I spent 150$ on mine very happy that I got a good economical saw.
Why even use a feeler gauge? Just lower the arbor so it touches the back rail then do the same on the front.
Youve never done spark plugs have you? LOL
Is this kit still available? My saw dates to the early ‘80s and I’m the original owner?
I believe this recall and kit were only available for a limited time. I did this retrofit a number of years ago when the kit was still available.
@@frankhamilton8257 my dad passed in 98. His saw sat idle in his shop until my mom passed in 08. I cleaned out his shop and finally started going through and setting up his tools in my shop one year ago. Just by chance I found out about the re-call. Called about the kit and the was told in so many words, sorry Charlie, no more kits available and your out of luck.
Where would I find the specific serial numbers that the law is requiring them to replace these pieces....?
I heard that the retrofit kit is no longer available for these saws due to a statute of limitations, not to mention that the company has been purchased by Stanley. You can try looking at the Craftsman tools website.
Cut a piece of plywood that is square drill a hole the exact size of the arbor and install it like it was the blade then bring it down to the table then use your square you will be almost dead on brother
Nice!
Even simpler is to turn the arbor 90 degrees straight down and move the head to the four corners of the rails!
That's a good idea. Thanks for the tip
do these saws use universal motors or induction motors?
I would imagine that they're induction motors because I've never had an issue where I thought that I had to replace brushes. I couldn't tell you for sure, though.
all table saw and radial arm saws have induction motors.
LINK PEOPLE TO WHERE TO GO TO GET Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Safety Kit (Recall and Retrofit) WHRE TO GO TO SEE IF YOUR CRAFTSMEN QUALIFIES ?
This saw was converted a number of years ago. I'm told that Craftsman has discontinued this program.
so what is the best way to go about obtaining a guard kit since they aren't offering it can you use another ras guard to substitute
You might try searching "Sears Craftsman Radial Arm saw recall". Trying using the browser on a home computer and a mobile device because you'll get different results on both.
anyone have the dimensions for the table. I have to make one.
304jeep304 There are four parts. The front is about 40” X 18”. Then you have the board for material guide and two back boards that push against the guide board to secure it in place using the two clamps that tighten against the rear most boards. There is a really good design for a better base board with sacrificial board on top designed by Mr Sawdust. Just search google or TH-cam.
I am giving away a Craftsman 12" radial arm saw with a 4.5 HP motor in the Fort Collins area.
billotto51 bummer...missed this post.
its a shame you didn't square blade and motor.also arm square to table
Unfortunately they aren't offering these kits anymore. I guess Emerson stopped it on July 23, 2019. Now they just want you to destroy the saw by cutting off the power cord and sending them pictures that you did it. Oh, but they'll pay you a whopping $50 if you prove you destroyed this perfectly good saw... crazy!
Wonder if that’s why the two I bought BOTH have cut cords
I called the sears company and they said they did not send parts to fix up the radial arem saw, they would send me a 50 dollar refund to sent the saw and they would destroy it. CAn anybody explain this to me??
Craftsman used to provide a safety conversion kit for their premium radial arm saw, you may still be able to find one out there from a private party, however, Craftsman has long since ended their offer on this kit. Most recently, Stanley Bostich has purchased the Craftsman brand.
God bless you brother may you see Jesus. L
Thanks, and God bless your and yours as well.
well, I tried... Now they want you to completely disable the saw, take pictures, and they'll send you a $50 check. Mine was definitely recalled ~sigh~ my luck and HECK NO, I'm not ruining a perfectly good saw!
Does anyone know where to get a retro kit for my saw. It was my dads and he gave it to me recently. I called Sears about the retro guard kit. It is no longer available. Any ideas? I have a 10" radial arm saw that met the requirement, but no kits available. Any help out there would be greatly appreciated.
I've had a number of inquiries about this. I believe that Craftsman was required by a court order to offer these retrofit kits for a limited time which has now passed. The only thing I do now is the tables for these saws.
They need to start the program up again!!!
Yeah, I get a lot of that. The program ended a few years back. Meanwhile there are a lot of people with these saws that weren't aware that there was ever a retrofit program.
I guess it will take more people loosing fingers, arms or worse to get this program back
radialarmsawrecall.com/ This is the link i got one last year for this saw gl
just called today 06/04/2021, no longer avaialble, but dont ant to cut the cord either..................
Yes, that program is over. There may be a few kits out there on the market from private parties.
I have two of these same saws 75 77 used them in my cabinet shop for years I'm retired now and have never had any safety issues with them people are STUPID!!! keep your hands away from the blade at all times I also have one of the older ones 60s sometime they are set up for doing different jobs I also have 3 table saws set up for different jobs I still work in my shop and help people out with small repairs and on their cabinets at 70 I still have all my fingers after 50 plus years of making cabinets and carpentry and wood milling I realize that accidents happen paying attention is the key don't do anything stupid I feel badly for craftsmen having a payout for STUPID people it's not their fault when you buy something like these tools you and only you are responsible for your safety not the manufacturer law suits hurt the company's and the consumer's we pay in the end for your unsafe actions!!!🤔
Fantastic video. .. was invaluable to get this put together.
The instructions and drawings are terrible
what was the phone number that you call to get this kit?
A number of TH-camrs have told me that the safety recall kit is no longer available for their models. I sell the replacement tables, but not the complete safety recall kit. Feel free to call me at 714-574-1544.
today is march 9,2017. Emerson says they no longer have any recall kits. Any idea as to where I can find one?
I've heard from a few people about this kit. Apparently, there must have been a statute of limitations on getting the upgrade for this saw. I know that they're offering a $100 rebate in lieu of providing the kit. I found out about the kit by accident, so I was fortunate to have capitalized on it. I don't have the recall information any more because it's been quite some time since I got my upgrade equipment. Try typing Craftsman Radial Arm Saw recall into your browser.
Frank Hamilton'sthe other side
now the deal is if you order the recall they will send you a box for yo to put your motor and carriage for 100$ and it states they are doing it to make sure the machine will never be used again.
I know I just paid 150.00 for my saw last week the kit would be nice for mine but very happy as is. Sending my motor off for 100$ is ridiculous then what scrap the frame.
I remember when they sent me the notice about the safety recall. I checked into it and what the fix was, although I don't think there was a problem to begin with. But the fix was a clusterf*ck and not at all a safety fix. It looked like it would be more dangerous to use with the fix than how I was using it since I bought the saw. I told them no thanks, I like it just the way it is now. They also wanted me to sell it back to them for some stupid amount. I would have to cut the cord and send them the motor assembly and they would give me some stupid low amount of money. I told them thanks but no thanks. Don't call me, I'll call you. It would be difficult to line up your blade for accurate cuts with all that junk on the blade cover, I think even more dangerous. All because some dipsh*ts don't know how to use care and pay attention when using the saw. This is the same kind of dumbass that would poke his eye out when using a screwdriver.
Old cast Seers are good,but best were their 12 " commercial grade. What you have are what give Radials a bad name. I have a Delta 12" commercial I'll have nothing less. Get rid of what you have it's junk . 😎
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Yikes. What a mess. This does not appear to be a fix. It's a nightmare. No thanks.