You sir, are a golden god. Respect for doing a career change that late. Most people dont want to commit to a big change like that once the inertia of life sets in. What were you doing before the coding, if i may ask?
@@scroopynooperz9051 Thanks man, it wasn't the first time I had started something, however the first time I'm going to finish and to be honest I could't do the physical jobs anymore, time for a desk and a decent income ;)
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🤖 Is Coding Still Worth Learning in 2024?* - Software engineering remains in demand with a projected 26% growth in employment by 2031. - AI complements coding skills, enhancing productivity and innovation. - Future software engineering will evolve with AI, requiring new skills. 01:49 *📈 Data on Software Engineering Employment* - Software engineering shows stable growth, contrasting with the average 3% across occupations. - AI and technology advancements influence the transformation in software engineering. 02:18 *💾 History and Evolution of Programming* - Early programming in machine language was tedious; compilers improved efficiency. - Programming tools and methodologies have enabled advanced software creation. 03:12 *🧠 AI's Role in Future Programming* - AI handles routine tasks, allowing focus on complex problem-solving and innovation. - Collaboration with AI tools will enhance software productivity. 04:06 *📊 Study on AI-Generated Code Quality* - AI-generated code requires human refinement for quality and security. - Coding skills like data structures and algorithms remain relevant. 05:14 *🏗️ Future of Software Engineering with AI* - AI will handle coding aspects, but human oversight remains essential. - Software engineers focus on design, innovation, and collaboration with AI. 06:21 *🔄 AI's Impact on Developer Productivity* - AI boosts productivity in documentation and code generation but shows limited speed improvement. - Software engineers maintain a crucial role in managing AI systems. 07:42 *🤔 Future Perspective on AI and Software Engineering* - AI won't replace human creativity; software engineering requires adaptability. - Human-AI collaboration enhances productivity and shapes the future of software engineering. Made with HARPA AI
Not to mention that learning how to solve problems by code also teaches you how to solve problems unrelated to coding since the same approach applies, i.e. breaking down the problem into manageable pieces ultimately solving a bigger problem
Facts. Learning how to code sharpened my problem-solving skills. Also, something that I noticed, which isn't necessarily related to coding, but technology/software. While learning how to use ChatGPT, it dawned on me that in conversations, I don't always ask the best questions and so the response I get may seem surface level. I learned, through prompt engineering, how to word inquires in a clear / concise fashion and tailor them to the persons level of understanding, temperament, etc.
@@astrarai-thesobercoderAlso keywords can be huge in getting AI to understand what your talking about. It seems to like “jargon” and knowing the vocabulary really helps how AI responds
00:01 Coding is still worth learning in 2024 01:08 Software engineering is a stable and growing field. 02:17 History of programming and the role of compilers 03:30 AI-generated code requires human review for quality and security 04:49 Understanding coding is still crucial for software engineering 05:57 AI boosts programming productivity but not overall productivity significantly 07:11 AI may advance, but human creativity and expertise will still be necessary in software engineering. 08:22 Coding skills are crucial for shaping the future with technology. Crafted by Merlin AI.
No one makes content like Mosh ...this video just made me have a renewed interest in software engineering and given me a new insight into the field ... I've been into coding like 3years and has been life changing
Exactly. Also, the things you can do with AI are proportionate to your level of knowledge of programming. So, the more complex the task, the greater the level of programming knowledge you must have to properly instruct AI.
@ConfusedDesigner2171 The same could be said about software development. You still need and probably want someone to prompt and verify whatever the AI model spits out. Nobody trusts blackboxes. Plus the majority of your time as an SWE isn't even spend coding.
People spending more time wondering if its worth learning instead of learning, just to realize it was worth learning, and if they had just learnt it, they'd have a job.
THANK YOU SO MUCHHH for making this video!!!!!!! Watched the tech lead video a couple of weeks ago and I was so depressed and wanted to give up my childhood dream of becoming a software engineer. Your video gave me so much hope and optimism and that's all i need. Thank you so much Mosh
I watched the same video - TechLeads goal of that video seemed to discourage people because he doesn’t want his position threatened… and why did he talk about vacation and zip line so much? He’s a hack.
If you are in Canada, make sure you get at least 3 co-ops before graduation in university. It will be impossible to get a job. A lot of my friends who programmed since high school gpa higher than 3.6 have applied to over 120 jobs with 0 offers even for a co-op in university. I have a CGPA of 3.94, and I was unemployed for 5 months (applied to 50jobs). I'm going to grad school right now. The US has it better than Canada though.
@@FriedrichNietzsche1 I don't do this for a living, so I'm just learning from TH-cam whatever I'm interested in, so I guess I don't have much useful info to provide here, but the reality shows that there's a high demand for coding, and it's probably a good idea to explore markets and find your niche that requires coding. Good luck!
I just turned 41 and know absolutely zero about coding but am considering it because I want a total change. Yours is the second video I have watched immediately after that Tech Lead guy (?) Two VERY different videos lol yours is much more optimistic and isn't pushing for us all to become billionares. And now I think I'll take a look at your courses, thanks dude
You are the boss! I really like the way you carefully pick words to reach both hearts and minds! In fact, you're a genius! I started learning software engineering officially January this year and I turned 40 in February. I have been wondering if I made the right choice because of my age. This video is all I needed to stop worrying. I have competed HTML, CSS, and I'm doing both C and JS at the moment. Thank you.🙏
Wow, thank you for the lovely words! I’m glad I could help you out. There are always nasty comments but I do what I do to help people like you. Keep it up, believe in yourself and you’ll be in a great place! 👍
@@programmingwithmosh Thank you Mosh, you maybe don't know what a profound impact you have on peoples' lives... I am a travelling sailor and I was a diver until recently, I had to give up diving for medical reasons, and I have no other qualifications. I had no clue what to do and depression hit hard until I found your 6hr Python for beginners video a few weeks ago. I've fallen in love with programming in python, and haven't had a single doubt that this is what I am going to do for a living. You have given me a reason to live, not even exaggerating
@@programmingwithmosh Wow, Mosh, your words were very accurate. I am a 17-year-old boy and I want to start a career as a programmer. Which programming language would you suggest I learn first? I know some basic html and scratch
Thanks a lot for making this video big brother < i am 18 years old and i am planning to start coding < i was scared to start coding in 2024 < but you just solved my problem < wish me good luck :)
lol, underrated comment. We'll see another iteration sometime soon of _'don't fear, it's not 100% as good as a human coder according to a recent schmachenzie study, only 97.2% as good, so breathe easy"_
Well said, the analysis is on point. Only caveat I would add is that "software engineering" is a generic term and encompasses many, many different roles from front-end, back-end, database, networking, security, IT operations, etc. Some of these roles will be more impacted than others. For example, IT operations folks spend a lot of time figuring out where the alert came from, what caused it, what needs to be fixed to get service back online etc. -- AI is really good at finding such patterns (same with security -- anywhere pattern recognition is a key skill being used).
Mosh just make money on this. Ofc he would tell anything , so people buy his courses lol. No offence , Mosh your courses are great yet ai will be better than you in 2-3 years.
@@jarbystark He's not just saying whatever because he literally backed the information up with reliable sources. Next time look for the ethos in what someone is saying.
If you’re already working as a software engineer then it’s worth it. If you’re just starting then it’s a gamble. Not to mention the job markets is horrible right now.
hey bro so i will be starting college from next year for Btech CSE so should i pursue it or do some other course cause i dont want to be in a loop of constant competition in the market for skills as it would be very stressful
good point on referring to compiler with boost productivity. the only gap between machine and human brain now are the creativity. I'm not sure when it will gonna last
@UNMEASURED100 they gonna need to start un sucking it is still the foundation of programming but due to all the abstraction it's less relevant for general programs , but complex computing still requires a lot of math so they gonna have to skill up
Human coding will be dead tho. Humans writing code will be dead. Soon ai be able to analyze a whole infrastructure to find problems and solve them in seconds. While a dev would sometimes need days
Love your channel and have purchased your classes. I have been doing Python for about 9 years and frameworks for about the last 5. I think this is a hard to answer question. I've been playing with some AI code for the past year or so just for giggles. I think there will always be a home for people who do coding but I do think that entry level jobs are going to be torched. Just over the past year, the code I have pulled from AI has gotten pretty strong. I think people should still learn to code because it is not perfect code (like you said). I code for fun so I will keep going. As for anyone who thinks they can just do a 3 month bootcamp and get a 6 figure job ..... nope. I agree with you.... learn to code so you can understand how to repair the flawed AI code. Thanks for you channel and your courses. Best.
But is it learn by quite literally fixing the issues? Reverse engineering and learning the appropriate code. Surely the value in learning all of coding ground up isn’t a good roi for time these days? I’m a beginner and I’m trying to decide
@@lessonsthehardwayThink about when the toilet clogs if you take a particularly intense poop, and you start freaking out. You know how to get it to stop overflowing, but you don’t know where the plunger is. Debugging is finding the plunger.
AI can automate many tasks traditionally performed by programmers, such as code generation, debugging, and optimization. However, it's unlikely to completely replace programmers anytime soon. Human creativity, problem-solving skills, and understanding of complex systems are still essential for many aspects of software development. AI can augment and streamline the work of programmers, making them more efficient and allowing them to focus on higher-level tasks.
@@BorisEdigarianin 10 years you'll be surprised what AI can do. Exponential technology. Many IT folks will be replaced by AI. Starts saving $ and go into real estate. Everyone needs a place to live. Owning land and properties is the sure way to make a living. Landlords have been around for thousands of years and will remain that way for the infinite future because AI can't replace landlords.
Thank you Mosh. I quit IT 4 years ago because I had a burnout and wandered since then for job to job, always wanting to return to developping but also always afraid to already be outdated and to have to compete with AI... Now I feel reassured that I can go back to my first field of work. Thank you again and again.
Honestly, 1. It depends on where you live 2. It depends on the field in which there are coders / IT people 3. The situation in the world is mostly to blame. Worst case scenario, we will be obsolete within a decade or two. More realistically, the field will evolve over time, some jobs and tasks will go away, some automated but supervised and some are timeless. You will be fine!
Unfortunately it's not going back. Machine intelligence is smashing through every scientific benchmark we've placed with no signs of even beginning to slow. Some even say it's just starting to ramp up... The world never went back to pre industrial practices. We are just mere cobblers building the machine that will replace us.
I agree with your opinion and point of view. In my opinion, software development will not disappear in the next 20 years. The biggest challenge is communication, not programming. And Complexity kills AI.
This is the first time I watch a video from you, I get your point and I share it, but what I'd like to remark is how cool your videos' animations are, it's incredibly fluent and so dinamic, I know It may sound weird, but I really wanted to call it out, because I tend to akwnowledge these kind of things, is that I'm able to understand when a channel has quality and a really well-kept, and definetaly yours is one of them. PD: Thanks for the information, the fact you used real data and not just your personal opinion is just great.
I totally agree with your view. Although the emotions are deliberatelyaroused and the hot news seem to refer solely to the dangers/possibilities of AI, the data is there for all to see. In my view, the human mind and the human brain is something almost irreplaceable. I'm lucky I found this video, Mosh. I much appreciate your broad perspective and the support you give to your opinions grounding then on facts, not emotions.
I just started learning front-end 2 months ago. While I have a grasp of HTML, and CSS, I'm kind of struggling with Js. This video inspired me to keep going. Thanks!
i think things will progress further than that : a single AI assisted programmer ( indie freelancer) can do a whole system. thus no need for companies writing software.
I've been programming for about 25 years. Things like ChatGPT have been amazing, but as the video states it's just freed me up to do more design and engineering, rather than writing CRUD frameworks or getting an SQL JOIN to work properly. It's also been great for refactoring functions and bouncing ideas around. But at the moment you still have to be very careful with the outputted code. Often it works, but it can also be nuts.
I started learning to code 3 4 years ago and I remember I went tru one of your 3 hour tutorials as a complete out of the box begginer. 4 years after, I finished a bootcamp withh a internship and Im finishing my bachelors while being employed as a developer in a company rn. Just so you know, I was working nights at a factory before.
I always tend to hear out both sides of a debate so the "vested interest" comments had me a bit worried you may be exaggerating or cherrypicking in the other videos. The real world science you provided in this video really eased my concerns. thank you!
What real world science? None of what he showed was science... it was financial boilerplate meant to appease the capitalists. How does "projected" mean anything scientific here; when the "projections" of where AI and robotics would be given by the industry leaders have shifted WELL over a decade within the last 18 months. If anything the SCIENCE shows the opposite - every single time estimate benchmark that the scientific community has placed on these developments has been absolutely smashed. Over and over every single estimate has been beat without any signs of slowing down. The rate of increase is mind boggling and the industry leaders have gone from saying "AGI is like fusion - it will always be 50 years away" to "agi in 10 years would surprise me... I think it will be much sooner" Open your eyes man.
Yes, I agreed with you Mosh when you said that AI cannot build a complete software for real world use yet. From my experience, I can ask AI for a specific peace of code for my design or for some kind of action, however, at the end, I need to specialize those codes.
Computer Scientists and programmers of all people should know that it's about to be over for the tech industry. It hasn't even been 2 years since OpenAI released ChatGPT3 to the public and we have autonomous agents, skyrocketing benchmarks on NLP and Coding LLMs, and compute to scale AI further is by no means slowing down. All they ever have to do is get close enough to replace you, and everyone is racing to build the AI that will do it. Just being real.
@@fabricendiaye5345 no, lol. Software engineers will be the first to go. Anything purely digital will be gone first. Physical tasks requiring careful motor function will be the last. And true creative fields in the humanities and arts will probably live forever because the human sciences are valued differently.
Bro, coding is far from dead. While there are currently many developments in the field of artificial intelligence that may result in some repetitive, manual tasks being automated and simplified, the fundamental role and necessity for coders will remain. Coding is the foundation for the development and implementation of many of the technologies and tools that are powering these developments in artificial intelligence, not to mention the ongoing requirement for coders to further develop and refine coding languages and frameworks to meet the changing demands and advancements in technology. Therefore, overall it is safe to say that coding is still very much alive, and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future.
It's really funny, we had the same discussions 30 years ago when CASE tools (computer-aided software engineering) started generating Cobol code on the mainframe!!! And yet, I'm still coding!! Now we have better tools and I don't spent time coding reports or screen line by line like we use to. But humain still design the system, the database, most of the logic and make sure that all the components talk to each other!!!
I know that was not the scope of the video, but I think is important to let people who want to start a career as a software developer that is really hard to get in this industry, the competition for junior positions is brutal, you could try for even years to get a chance,so it important prepare yourself for it.
Daaaayum shots fired mosh 😂😂 I love how you pointed out how these negative content creators are discouraging thousands of people just to make an easy buck
@@TheQuranist I recommend starting out in the frontend (HTML, CSS, JavaScript/TypeScript), because it's more fun and there are a lot of great courses. You can also easily get a job as a frontend developer, because most companies use these technologies. I currently work with Angular/TypeScript in the frontend and .NET/C# in the backend.
I searched about it just now, saw "Tech Leads" video as his title said "google programmer" lol and he says coding is dead. second video i watched yours and you say the opposite. Somewhat satisfied by your response (As you clearly put his thumbnails in your video challenging him to a Duel lmao) but I will keep looking for more information. Thank you for this. Keep guiding people on the right path.
I have been in software engineering for almost 25 years and they are always predicting the end of coding. The more sophisticated AI gets the more expectations there will be on existing developers to use the tools they have to produce even bigger and more complex things. But you will always need a person at the helm. What I would suggest for any new developers or people looking to get into development in this thread is to go beyond programming and understand system design and architecture. The idea of saying you know how to write a sentence and even a paragraph does not make you a good author. You need to understand not just the individual pieces but how they all work together. If you go this route from the beginning rather than realizing 5 to 7 years into your career that this is important then you will never need to worry about whether you will be able to find a job.
@@safiul1930 Not really. It is much better. The theoretical instruction given in college courses rarely mirrors the real world. It is important to know the details of architecture but it is also important to see in the real world the trade-offs, the difficulties in implementing when egos are involved and the politics of negotiation and compromising to get things done.
@@safiul1930Better than nothing. But if you only got into dev for the money be aware that there exists better alternatives that do not induce this kind of AI anxiety. Make a google search to find them and consider using your new coding knowledge in creative ways to get these jobs.
@@safiul1930 hey bro so i will be starting college from next year for Btech CSE so should i pursue it or do some other course cause i dont want to be in a loop of constant competition in the market for skills as it would be very stressful
Prompt engineering is a bubble and here's why: People think that telling an AI what to do is easy because you just have to describe what you want in plain english and voila, problem solved. But plain english is very ambiguous. That is the main reason programming languages exist. Programming languages exist for the sole purpose of being able to tell a machine what to do in way that is very unambiguous and can produce reliable results. If you just describe to a machine in plain English what you want, yes, it might work at face value but behind the scenes the AI might have understood things differently from you meant to. And you may only realize that when a $10 million transaction has to occur. And then what? Plain English is insufficient in writing code. The creators of Python tried to solve that and they just ended up creating another programming language.
Just wait a year or two lol. It understands much more than you think. People said the same when omluters and internet appeared. However many jobs just dissapeared cince then.
i find searching for information is for me the main advantage in programming AI. you have to define exactly what should be in the end. So you have to concetrate on your midels much more than in the past, meaning, you have to be a better programmer.
Im not worried about AI im worried about work being outsourced to poor countries where someone will ALWAYS work longer and harder than you for 1/4 the cost.
Biggest problem is that if for example you have a startup with 4 or 5 people working, you don't need more. AI will make it look like you have 6 or 7. Those 5 people will use AI and deny more working spaces. I know this for a fact with several startups. And it only gets bigger with company size.
I finished university 5 years ago. Didn't take job in my country which offered low salary and moved to Germany. I had no knowledge of German language. Even though I heard it is enough English to find job here that was not my case. Maybe I surrender to fast. Time went pass and I am still working in job which I don't like and everyday thoughts about programming eating my nerves. I tried to do projects and I think i little burn off from it. I know just choose bad path to get first job and get my foot in. I done too many things that I thought is required and in the end I just burn out. Now all news about AI and how it will be hard in future also does not inspire. Lately I am thinking to try to rewind my knowledge and try to learn to code with the help of AI. I definitely take a look at your courses, as your video gave hope even it is hard to believe because of so much negativity all around IT.
Regardless of outside factors, at this point, I need coding to get my own things done. The more I learned the more I realized I was taking ten steps to get things done when I could actually take one. It wouldn’t make sense for me to ever stop coding.
Yes, I started at 49 and landed my first IT job at 53 a few weeks ago. Now I'm a Systems Analyst, just do it!
mad respect king
You sir, are a golden god. Respect for doing a career change that late.
Most people dont want to commit to a big change like that once the inertia of life sets in.
What were you doing before the coding, if i may ask?
@@scroopynooperz9051 Thanks man, it wasn't the first time I had started something, however the first time I'm going to finish and to be honest I could't do the physical jobs anymore, time for a desk and a decent income ;)
@bluesdog88 Sir, if you could give advice to a 19-year-old, what would it be?
Hey that’s so awesome and inspiring! Wondering how you learned and the route you went?
I'm 34 and made a career shift to programming about a year and a half ago!
I encourage you to embark on the adventure of learning programming too.
from where u learnt coding and in which domain r u
Well said and so true!!
Would love to hear your learning path.
@@KUMAR-gq8sb
- PHP Developer - [ Laravel Framework ]
- I've learned mostly from different sources like TH-cam, articles and Documentation
35 and started 6 months ago, im not going to give up
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🤖 Is Coding Still Worth Learning in 2024?*
- Software engineering remains in demand with a projected 26% growth in employment by 2031.
- AI complements coding skills, enhancing productivity and innovation.
- Future software engineering will evolve with AI, requiring new skills.
01:49 *📈 Data on Software Engineering Employment*
- Software engineering shows stable growth, contrasting with the average 3% across occupations.
- AI and technology advancements influence the transformation in software engineering.
02:18 *💾 History and Evolution of Programming*
- Early programming in machine language was tedious; compilers improved efficiency.
- Programming tools and methodologies have enabled advanced software creation.
03:12 *🧠 AI's Role in Future Programming*
- AI handles routine tasks, allowing focus on complex problem-solving and innovation.
- Collaboration with AI tools will enhance software productivity.
04:06 *📊 Study on AI-Generated Code Quality*
- AI-generated code requires human refinement for quality and security.
- Coding skills like data structures and algorithms remain relevant.
05:14 *🏗️ Future of Software Engineering with AI*
- AI will handle coding aspects, but human oversight remains essential.
- Software engineers focus on design, innovation, and collaboration with AI.
06:21 *🔄 AI's Impact on Developer Productivity*
- AI boosts productivity in documentation and code generation but shows limited speed improvement.
- Software engineers maintain a crucial role in managing AI systems.
07:42 *🤔 Future Perspective on AI and Software Engineering*
- AI won't replace human creativity; software engineering requires adaptability.
- Human-AI collaboration enhances productivity and shapes the future of software engineering.
Made with HARPA AI
Not to mention that learning how to solve problems by code also teaches you how to solve problems unrelated to coding since the same approach applies, i.e. breaking down the problem into manageable pieces ultimately solving a bigger problem
Great point👍 problem solving in any field is very valuable.
Facts. Learning how to code sharpened my problem-solving skills. Also, something that I noticed, which isn't necessarily related to coding, but technology/software. While learning how to use ChatGPT, it dawned on me that in conversations, I don't always ask the best questions and so the response I get may seem surface level. I learned, through prompt engineering, how to word inquires in a clear / concise fashion and tailor them to the persons level of understanding, temperament, etc.
Neah, most of the programmers didn't even question 2020-2022, they followed the heard.
@@astrarai-thesobercoderAlso keywords can be huge in getting AI to understand what your talking about. It seems to like “jargon” and knowing the vocabulary really helps how AI responds
AI CAN BE COMPLEMENTARY TO CODING NOT REPLACE DEV.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00 *AI job impact*
00:13 *Coding still viable*
00:27 *Software demand growth*
00:42 *Creator transparency disclosure*
01:08 *AI complements engineers*
01:35 *BLS growth statistics*
02:04 *Software transformation prediction*
02:18 *Programming history overview*
02:59 *AI enhances efficiency*
03:40 *Human code review*
04:06 *Code quality concerns*
04:20 *AI code refinement*
04:33 *Essential coding skills*
05:14 *Coding knowledge imperative*
05:27 *Future design focus*
05:41 *Coding enhances productivity*
06:08 *AI boosts programming*
06:21 *Complex task limitations*
06:48 *Software engineering necessity*
07:17 *AI time savings*
07:42 *Human intelligence deficit*
07:56 *Creativity still crucial*
08:09 *Software retains importance*
08:22 *Prompt skill necessity*
08:36 *Technology excitement opportunity*
08:49 *Software future complexity*
Made with HARPA AI
00:01 Coding is still worth learning in 2024
01:08 Software engineering is a stable and growing field.
02:17 History of programming and the role of compilers
03:30 AI-generated code requires human review for quality and security
04:49 Understanding coding is still crucial for software engineering
05:57 AI boosts programming productivity but not overall productivity significantly
07:11 AI may advance, but human creativity and expertise will still be necessary in software engineering.
08:22 Coding skills are crucial for shaping the future with technology.
Crafted by Merlin AI.
No one makes content like Mosh ...this video just made me have a renewed interest in software engineering and given me a new insight into the field ... I've been into coding like 3years and has been life changing
You still need a reasonable amount of coding knowledge to even work alongside AI in the first place, so no , learning coding will never be worthless.
Exactly. Also, the things you can do with AI are proportionate to your level of knowledge of programming. So, the more complex the task, the greater the level of programming knowledge you must have to properly instruct AI.
@@Nostalgia_SpaceFacts. Very underrated comment right here
For now yes but that will change humans will slowly be taken out of the loop.
@@bobdillon1138 If AI replaces software developers then no white collar job is safe, outside of maybe healthcare.
@ConfusedDesigner2171 The same could be said about software development. You still need and probably want someone to prompt and verify whatever the AI model spits out. Nobody trusts blackboxes. Plus the majority of your time as an SWE isn't even spend coding.
Excited to hear about this one
People spending more time wondering if its worth learning instead of learning, just to realize it was worth learning, and if they had just learnt it, they'd have a job.
Why are there so many seeking jobs and unable to land one then?
@@escapetarkov3838 the comment im looking for. this is the bigger picture.
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@@escapetarkov3838 thats everywhere
@@escapetarkov3838 becuase they are shit
THANK YOU SO MUCHHH for making this video!!!!!!! Watched the tech lead video a couple of weeks ago and I was so depressed and wanted to give up my childhood dream of becoming a software engineer. Your video gave me so much hope and optimism and that's all i need. Thank you so much Mosh
@Epic_Codingespecially tech lead the hypocrite 😂😂
I watched the same video - TechLeads goal of that video seemed to discourage people because he doesn’t want his position threatened… and why did he talk about vacation and zip line so much? He’s a hack.
If you are in Canada, make sure you get at least 3 co-ops before graduation in university. It will be impossible to get a job. A lot of my friends who programmed since high school gpa higher than 3.6 have applied to over 120 jobs with 0 offers even for a co-op in university. I have a CGPA of 3.94, and I was unemployed for 5 months (applied to 50jobs). I'm going to grad school right now. The US has it better than Canada though.
This is the most sensible answer to this burning question I have seen yet. Thanks for this amazing explanation. Couldn't agree more!
Thanks for the clarification, I almost lost hope due to other peoples negativity.
Negative people will remain negative... Follow your own mind (and real statistics, just to back it up)
@@FriedrichNietzsche1 I don't do this for a living, so I'm just learning from TH-cam whatever I'm interested in, so I guess I don't have much useful info to provide here, but the reality shows that there's a high demand for coding, and it's probably a good idea to explore markets and find your niche that requires coding. Good luck!
I just turned 41 and know absolutely zero about coding but am considering it because I want a total change. Yours is the second video I have watched immediately after that Tech Lead guy (?) Two VERY different videos lol yours is much more optimistic and isn't pushing for us all to become billionares. And now I think I'll take a look at your courses, thanks dude
I am 42 with two kids and a wife, started learning a couple of years ago and am currently in school. If you want to do it. Go for it bud.
@@bestfootforward4586 this is the energy we need on social media 👌🏾
@@bestfootforward4586 this is the energy we need on social media 👌🏾
You are the boss! I really like the way you carefully pick words to reach both hearts and minds! In fact, you're a genius!
I started learning software engineering officially January this year and I turned 40 in February. I have been wondering if I made the right choice because of my age. This video is all I needed to stop worrying. I have competed HTML, CSS, and I'm doing both C and JS at the moment. Thank you.🙏
Wow, thank you for the lovely words! I’m glad I could help you out. There are always nasty comments but I do what I do to help people like you. Keep it up, believe in yourself and you’ll be in a great place! 👍
C is an interesting choice for sure, I'm sure that will help you understand more than people who use more high-end programming languages.
@@programmingwithmosh Thank you Mosh, you maybe don't know what a profound impact you have on peoples' lives... I am a travelling sailor and I was a diver until recently, I had to give up diving for medical reasons, and I have no other qualifications. I had no clue what to do and depression hit hard until I found your 6hr Python for beginners video a few weeks ago. I've fallen in love with programming in python, and haven't had a single doubt that this is what I am going to do for a living. You have given me a reason to live, not even exaggerating
@@programmingwithmosh
Wow, Mosh, your words were very accurate. I am a 17-year-old boy and I want to start a career as a programmer. Which programming language would you suggest I learn first? I know some basic html and scratch
Thanks a lot for making this video big brother < i am 18 years old and i am planning to start coding < i was scared to start coding in 2024 < but you just solved my problem < wish me good luck :)
Not to fear, just evolved
lol, underrated comment. We'll see another iteration sometime soon of _'don't fear, it's not 100% as good as a human coder according to a recent schmachenzie study, only 97.2% as good, so breathe easy"_
@RajeevKumar-wl6ei what tools do you use in helping you develop daily
@@galactic33 CrewAI, Claude Sonnet 3.5 with Python ftw.
You are a life saver, mosh. Thank you!
Well said, the analysis is on point. Only caveat I would add is that "software engineering" is a generic term and encompasses many, many different roles from front-end, back-end, database, networking, security, IT operations, etc. Some of these roles will be more impacted than others. For example, IT operations folks spend a lot of time figuring out where the alert came from, what caused it, what needs to be fixed to get service back online etc. -- AI is really good at finding such patterns (same with security -- anywhere pattern recognition is a key skill being used).
Thank you, Mosh, for not allowing doomers and click-baiters to destroy an entire upcoming generation of talented and passionate software developers.
Thanks, Mosh, you're an uplifter-- not that I was going to stop learning or anything haha.
Mosh just make money on this. Ofc he would tell anything , so people buy his courses lol. No offence , Mosh your courses are great yet ai will be better than you in 2-3 years.
@@jarbystarkwhat is your job if I may ask? If you are a programmer what solution do you have for AI taking over problem?
@@jarbystark He's not just saying whatever because he literally backed the information up with reliable sources. Next time look for the ethos in what someone is saying.
very clear and concise. Deeply thought out just like your tutorials 👏👏. I completely agree with you - computational thinking is on the rise
Glad it was helpful!
this is what I needed to hear, thx
If you’re already working as a software engineer then it’s worth it. If you’re just starting then it’s a gamble. Not to mention the job markets is horrible right now.
hey bro so i will be starting college from next year for Btech CSE so should i pursue it or do some other course cause i dont want to be in a loop of constant competition in the market for skills as it would be very stressful
so what if you did free lance work? like building websites for people?
@@A1_lonzoYeah I heard it's alot of compeitiom with Indians who charge less and do just as good of a job as an expensive dev.
good point on referring to compiler with boost productivity. the only gap between machine and human brain now are the creativity. I'm not sure when it will gonna last
Coding is not dead. Coding is evolving because coding is the foundation of AI.
Math is the Foundation
@@UNMEASURED100 True, but Math is also the foundation of Programming.
@@BlackFyre71 Most of the programmers suck at Math
@UNMEASURED100 they gonna need to start un sucking it is still the foundation of programming but due to all the abstraction it's less relevant for general programs , but complex computing still requires a lot of math so they gonna have to skill up
Human coding will be dead tho. Humans writing code will be dead. Soon ai be able to analyze a whole infrastructure to find problems and solve them in seconds. While a dev would sometimes need days
Love your channel and have purchased your classes. I have been doing Python for about 9 years and frameworks for about the last 5. I think this is a hard to answer question. I've been playing with some AI code for the past year or so just for giggles. I think there will always be a home for people who do coding but I do think that entry level jobs are going to be torched. Just over the past year, the code I have pulled from AI has gotten pretty strong. I think people should still learn to code because it is not perfect code (like you said). I code for fun so I will keep going. As for anyone who thinks they can just do a 3 month bootcamp and get a 6 figure job ..... nope. I agree with you.... learn to code so you can understand how to repair the flawed AI code. Thanks for you channel and your courses. Best.
But is it learn by quite literally fixing the issues? Reverse engineering and learning the appropriate code. Surely the value in learning all of coding ground up isn’t a good roi for time these days? I’m a beginner and I’m trying to decide
@@lessonsthehardwayThink about when the toilet clogs if you take a particularly intense poop, and you start freaking out. You know how to get it to stop overflowing, but you don’t know where the plunger is.
Debugging is finding the plunger.
AI can automate many tasks traditionally performed by programmers, such as code generation, debugging, and optimization. However, it's unlikely to completely replace programmers anytime soon. Human creativity, problem-solving skills, and understanding of complex systems are still essential for many aspects of software development. AI can augment and streamline the work of programmers, making them more efficient and allowing them to focus on higher-level tasks.
Also AI can't invent anything. You will still need to share your idea and ask for implementation
Yeah you can use ai to search for that one mistake you made, as long as you work alongside ai and not against it you will be fine.
Thanks chatGPT
@@BorisEdigarianin 10 years you'll be surprised what AI can do. Exponential technology. Many IT folks will be replaced by AI. Starts saving $ and go into real estate. Everyone needs a place to live. Owning land and properties is the sure way to make a living. Landlords have been around for thousands of years and will remain that way for the infinite future because AI can't replace landlords.
@@BorisEdigarianAI just 3D printed a working jet engine..
Absolutely agree as a programmer in second generation. My dad used to program mainframe and his job was vastly different from mine.
The compiler example really makes a good explanation. Noice
Even if it does die, I still enjoy it as a hobby. Things will always be more blissful doing things from scratch and from your own mind.
Totally agree 👍 I'm master of my own little domain💯
I agree as a fellow hobbyist.
Thank you Mosh. I quit IT 4 years ago because I had a burnout and wandered since then for job to job, always wanting to return to developping but also always afraid to already be outdated and to have to compete with AI... Now I feel reassured that I can go back to my first field of work. Thank you again and again.
Thanks, Mosh. I needed to hear this!
I wasn't gonna quit anyways because I am way too passionate about this field, but this video is still very reassuring. Thanks man.
Thanks so much for making this video!
Yeah, coding with AI is a gift for programmers. I usually make a full-stack website in 3 months but with the AI it took only 3 weeks
I'm honestly just terrified right now because of the mass layoffs happening. I hope everything will go back to normal next year.
Honestly, 1. It depends on where you live 2. It depends on the field in which there are coders / IT people 3. The situation in the world is mostly to blame.
Worst case scenario, we will be obsolete within a decade or two. More realistically, the field will evolve over time, some jobs and tasks will go away, some automated but supervised and some are timeless. You will be fine!
Unfortunately it's not going back. Machine intelligence is smashing through every scientific benchmark we've placed with no signs of even beginning to slow. Some even say it's just starting to ramp up...
The world never went back to pre industrial practices. We are just mere cobblers building the machine that will replace us.
Learning the concepts is more important than knowing the syntax of everything
I agree with your opinion and point of view. In my opinion, software development will not disappear in the next 20 years. The biggest challenge is communication, not programming. And Complexity kills AI.
20 years? Duh haha 5 years max
This is the first time I watch a video from you, I get your point and I share it, but what I'd like to remark is how cool your videos' animations are, it's incredibly fluent and so dinamic, I know It may sound weird, but I really wanted to call it out, because I tend to akwnowledge these kind of things, is that I'm able to understand when a channel has quality and a really well-kept, and definetaly yours is one of them.
PD: Thanks for the information, the fact you used real data and not just your personal opinion is just great.
lmfao! 0:19 Mosh chose violence XD
Your videos are really very, very well done. 🤗
Thanks so much Mosh. You are a lifesaver!!
I totally agree with your view. Although the emotions are deliberatelyaroused and the hot news seem to refer solely to the dangers/possibilities of AI, the data is there for all to see.
In my view, the human mind and the human brain is something almost irreplaceable.
I'm lucky I found this video, Mosh. I much appreciate your broad perspective and the support you give to your opinions grounding then on facts, not emotions.
great! keep it up👍🔥
Thank you mosh, For giving this better clarity .
I just started learning front-end 2 months ago. While I have a grasp of HTML, and CSS, I'm kind of struggling with Js. This video inspired me to keep going. Thanks!
You are the one of the best teachers of coding. I got 6 job offers after completing your .NET courses . Thanks Mosh .
Great as always, thank you!
Fact: AI will make you more efficient
Fact: Companies will need less programmers as a result.
Fact: Lower demand, less payment.
i think things will progress further than that : a single AI assisted programmer ( indie freelancer) can do a whole system. thus no need for companies writing software.
I've been programming for about 25 years. Things like ChatGPT have been amazing, but as the video states it's just freed me up to do more design and engineering, rather than writing CRUD frameworks or getting an SQL JOIN to work properly. It's also been great for refactoring functions and bouncing ideas around.
But at the moment you still have to be very careful with the outputted code. Often it works, but it can also be nuts.
I started learning to code 3 4 years ago and I remember I went tru one of your 3 hour tutorials as a complete out of the box begginer.
4 years after, I finished a bootcamp withh a internship and Im finishing my bachelors while being employed as a developer in a company rn.
Just so you know, I was working nights at a factory before.
Nice. Gave hope to me. Doing bootcamp now.
You are my teacher and teacher of my daughter and will be the first teacher of my son too..Thank you!
I always tend to hear out both sides of a debate so the "vested interest" comments had me a bit worried you may be exaggerating or cherrypicking in the other videos. The real world science you provided in this video really eased my concerns. thank you!
I’m glad you found the video helpful. I did my best to be transparent and educate people with real data, not just my opinions.
What real world science? None of what he showed was science... it was financial boilerplate meant to appease the capitalists.
How does "projected" mean anything scientific here; when the "projections" of where AI and robotics would be given by the industry leaders have shifted WELL over a decade within the last 18 months.
If anything the SCIENCE shows the opposite - every single time estimate benchmark that the scientific community has placed on these developments has been absolutely smashed. Over and over every single estimate has been beat without any signs of slowing down. The rate of increase is mind boggling and the industry leaders have gone from saying "AGI is like fusion - it will always be 50 years away" to "agi in 10 years would surprise me... I think it will be much sooner"
Open your eyes man.
Yes, I agreed with you Mosh when you said that AI cannot build a complete software for real world use yet. From my experience, I can ask AI for a specific peace of code for my design or for some kind of action, however, at the end, I need to specialize those codes.
Love your content men. Always conscise, entertaining, and informative. Keep it up!
Mosh!!!! You must be getting inundated with these questions for you to be producing so many videos. Thanks for the video.
Computer Scientists and programmers of all people should know that it's about to be over for the tech industry. It hasn't even been 2 years since OpenAI released ChatGPT3 to the public and we have autonomous agents, skyrocketing benchmarks on NLP and Coding LLMs, and compute to scale AI further is by no means slowing down. All they ever have to do is get close enough to replace you, and everyone is racing to build the AI that will do it. Just being real.
i agree that its possible that AI will at some point in time sooner or later completely replace human programmers
When AI succeed in replacing software engineers that will also mean that all other jobs can be done by AI too.
@@fabricendiaye5345 Anything invovling typing language into a computer anyways. These are already getting replaced.
@@fabricendiaye5345 no, lol. Software engineers will be the first to go. Anything purely digital will be gone first.
Physical tasks requiring careful motor function will be the last. And true creative fields in the humanities and arts will probably live forever because the human sciences are valued differently.
@@johnjungkook2721 you might be right. Future will tell for sure🙂
This waiting music is relatively smooth. 🔥
I am 43, and I did a career shift too, now I am a developer (EU). You can do it, but it won't be easy.
Can I ask what career were you in before making the switch to programming?
@@pdevdat I was working to a telko. Was basically selling phones for 10+ years before the switch.
@@FoAMDFun Thanks for letting me know. I asked this as a student yet to join a college and I'm thinking of taking CSE in college
Can u guide me ?
Thank you for making such a realistic & optimistic video
Thanks mosh give everyone confidence everytime ❤
Well said Mosh. Concise
Loved It Mosh 💯 Great 👌
Thank you! I've nbeen trying to tell my fellow Compsci students this for a while!
Hi Mosh I couldn't agree more....
Bro, coding is far from dead. While there are currently many developments in the field of artificial intelligence that may result in some repetitive, manual tasks being automated and simplified, the fundamental role and necessity for coders will remain. Coding is the foundation for the development and implementation of many of the technologies and tools that are powering these developments in artificial intelligence, not to mention the ongoing requirement for coders to further develop and refine coding languages and frameworks to meet the changing demands and advancements in technology.
Therefore, overall it is safe to say that coding is still very much alive, and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future.
Yeahh.... That's why around 1M employees already laid off ... Be +
To hell with this AI .. Only Nvidia getting business
@@HeyMr.OO7 In the US, it's because of other economic factors, like high interest rates. Probably similar reasons elsewhere, too.
@@HeyMr.OO7are you not aware of the over hiring that happened during the pandemic?
@@westernpigeon yeahh... Thanks for the reminder.. but surely the rate of firing implies the havoc of 2008
It's really funny, we had the same discussions 30 years ago when CASE tools (computer-aided software engineering) started generating Cobol code on the mainframe!!! And yet, I'm still coding!! Now we have better tools and I don't spent time coding reports or screen line by line like we use to. But humain still design the system, the database, most of the logic and make sure that all the components talk to each other!!!
I know that was not the scope of the video, but I think is important to let people who want to start a career as a software developer that is really hard to get in this industry, the competition for junior positions is brutal, you could try for even years to get a chance,so it important prepare yourself for it.
Make your own thing. Why beg for scraps
Damn.
Thank you for this!
Mosh agree, To use AI in software engineering will be new topic in trends so those adapt that curve will definitely servivive
Your last 3 minutes were 🔥🔥🔥
thanks mosh for everything
Daaaayum shots fired mosh 😂😂 I love how you pointed out how these negative content creators are discouraging thousands of people just to make an easy buck
I'm 21 and shifted to programming years ago. Now I'm made my career with one software company from England (remote)
I started learning programming with 30 and got my first job with 35. It was the best decision I ever made and I couldn't be happier!
What language do you recommend to start with and why?
@@TheQuranist I recommend starting out in the frontend (HTML, CSS, JavaScript/TypeScript), because it's more fun and there are a lot of great courses. You can also easily get a job as a frontend developer, because most companies use these technologies. I currently work with Angular/TypeScript in the frontend and .NET/C# in the backend.
Answer his question please
I started with JavaScript/HTML/CSS (frontend). Today, I mostly work with Angular (JavaScript) and .NET (C#).
I agree with your point of view
Mosh you are an absolute legend.
You’re too kind! Thank you 🙏
I searched about it just now, saw "Tech Leads" video as his title said "google programmer" lol and he says coding is dead. second video i watched yours and you say the opposite. Somewhat satisfied by your response (As you clearly put his thumbnails in your video challenging him to a Duel lmao) but I will keep looking for more information. Thank you for this. Keep guiding people on the right path.
In theory, theory and practice are the same, in practice, they are not.
Thank you mosh brother
I'm a data scientist and a former backend developer since 2003, if you're a programmer, study data science in your free time, you will thank me later!
Is programming not data science?
I have been in software engineering for almost 25 years and they are always predicting the end of coding. The more sophisticated AI gets the more expectations there will be on existing developers to use the tools they have to produce even bigger and more complex things. But you will always need a person at the helm. What I would suggest for any new developers or people looking to get into development in this thread is to go beyond programming and understand system design and architecture. The idea of saying you know how to write a sentence and even a paragraph does not make you a good author. You need to understand not just the individual pieces but how they all work together. If you go this route from the beginning rather than realizing 5 to 7 years into your career that this is important then you will never need to worry about whether you will be able to find a job.
Well, that is like taking full computer science degree.
@@safiul1930 Not really. It is much better. The theoretical instruction given in college courses rarely mirrors the real world. It is important to know the details of architecture but it is also important to see in the real world the trade-offs, the difficulties in implementing when egos are involved and the politics of negotiation and compromising to get things done.
@@Sapphireleadershipadvisors
I got into a full stack boot camp.
I don't know if it was a smart decision.
@@safiul1930Better than nothing. But if you only got into dev for the money be aware that there exists better alternatives that do not induce this kind of AI anxiety. Make a google search to find them and consider using your new coding knowledge in creative ways to get these jobs.
@@safiul1930 hey bro so i will be starting college from next year for Btech CSE so should i pursue it or do some other course cause i dont want to be in a loop of constant competition in the market for skills as it would be very stressful
Great explanation to the present problem ❤
2:08 2022-2032 years, doesn't it mean that it was last updated in 2021?
Prompt engineering is a bubble and here's why: People think that telling an AI what to do is easy because you just have to describe what you want in plain english and voila, problem solved. But plain english is very ambiguous. That is the main reason programming languages exist. Programming languages exist for the sole purpose of being able to tell a machine what to do in way that is very unambiguous and can produce reliable results. If you just describe to a machine in plain English what you want, yes, it might work at face value but behind the scenes the AI might have understood things differently from you meant to. And you may only realize that when a $10 million transaction has to occur. And then what? Plain English is insufficient in writing code. The creators of Python tried to solve that and they just ended up creating another programming language.
Just wait a year or two lol. It understands much more than you think. People said the same when omluters and internet appeared. However many jobs just dissapeared cince then.
00:17 shots fired to TechLead and I love it. Dude almost discouraged me from learning to code. TOO NEGATIVE
Thank you very mosh 😅. We are proud of you 👍
wow! what a coincidence. I watched this, right after I watched a depressing video by The Tech Lead. Thank you Mosh, for cheering me up.
i find searching for information is for me the main advantage in programming AI.
you have to define exactly what should be in the end.
So you have to concetrate on your midels much more than in the past,
meaning, you have to be a better programmer.
Great explanation!
Im not worried about AI im worried about work being outsourced to poor countries where someone will ALWAYS work longer and harder than you for 1/4 the cost.
yeah, I live in one of those and quite a number of new junior dev jobs every week.
Biggest problem is that if for example you have a startup with 4 or 5 people working, you don't need more. AI will make it look like you have 6 or 7. Those 5 people will use AI and deny more working spaces. I know this for a fact with several startups. And it only gets bigger with company size.
Some adaptability is required in learning and teaching. Thanks helpful. Also backed by facts from reliable source.
bro is just my life saver, before i watching this , I almost change my life career.
Another excellent video. Thank you Mosh!!!
I finished university 5 years ago. Didn't take job in my country which offered low salary and moved to Germany. I had no knowledge of German language. Even though I heard it is enough English to find job here that was not my case. Maybe I surrender to fast. Time went pass and I am still working in job which I don't like and everyday thoughts about programming eating my nerves. I tried to do projects and I think i little burn off from it. I know just choose bad path to get first job and get my foot in. I done too many things that I thought is required and in the end I just burn out. Now all news about AI and how it will be hard in future also does not inspire. Lately I am thinking to try to rewind my knowledge and try to learn to code with the help of AI. I definitely take a look at your courses, as your video gave hope even it is hard to believe because of so much negativity all around IT.
Ability to code makes you more adept to analyse and solve complex problems. Your analytical and cognitive skills are much improved.
Regardless of outside factors, at this point, I need coding to get my own things done. The more I learned the more I realized I was taking ten steps to get things done when I could actually take one. It wouldn’t make sense for me to ever stop coding.
Its tough to take the word of coding mentors and content creators.