Paper Mario: Origami King is not worth your time.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- After three years of putting off this video, I finally sat down and cranked this out. It's raw, it's (mostly) filtered of its salt, it's GoodEnough.png.
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Edit: almost 1,000 views in a 3 day period! Y'all rock.
I'm glad you didn't drag Super Paper Mario too bad. It wasn't like its predecessors, sure, but it's a great game in its own right. Sticker Star, meanwhile, was about as far you can fall from grace as one could get, and everything since has been them crawling up, trying to reach anything worth playing.
SPM is an okay game, but nothing more.
Probably the best take on PM that I've heard in a while.
It still has more of a story and rpg elements than those retcons. (The new games)
SPM’s storytelling is so good that it almost got a movie. As a more platform oriented enjoyer I didn’t really have a problem with the mechanics. The only inherent problem that irks me is the lack of depth in the pixel party members as they were given a personality and then proceed to turn into spineless husks the rest of the game
sorry it what???@@wConor
The sheer energy oozing out of this was very entertaining.
It's crazy how people come from nowhere and deliver an amazing video with high quality about a topic I'm interested in, thank you, it was so entertaining, hope to see more videos soon c:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
☝️ i was pleasantly surprised ^^
I personally think that SPM and TTYD are the best Paper Mario games. SPM because turn-based combat gets a bit annoying when you fall into a well and get accosted by 6 enemies at the same time, forcing you into back-to-back battles, and when you can fight in real-time it feels smoother. I do like TTYD because it's a good game. Maybe I'm biased because it was the Paper Mario I grew up with (and my first exposure to the PM series as a whole) but I do agree it's a good game.
Though the real-time battles and *very VERY* meaningful story of SPM will always have me praising it
At this point, we won't even need "Chuggaa Tears Origami King a New One" because of this. ...Even though it would still be nice.
To be fair, Nintendo did approach Square to develop Paper Mario (then known as Super Mario RPG 2) but they were busy with FF7 so they said no and *that's* when Nintendo got IntSys to develop the game.
I had mixed feelings throughout Origami King. There were so many moments I got this giddy little "Okay, origami king, I see what you're doing here" but a lot of it felt meh. Except for Bowser's castle. The cutouts freaked me out, and Mr Scissors actually felt tense. Then the ball dropped and I started getting really upset. I just wanted to end it
Honestly I'm baffled that even miyamoto found sticker star boring and the lead dev was apparently devastated at the fact the game was badly received....and yet they still keep trying to force the disposable item battle system and same toad based character filler twice now...at this point I dont think they will ever learn
People want the original and thousand year door back. Those were fantastic.
You are talking about how in Origami King timing a button doesn't really impact the outcome of a battle. They did it once and cranked it to the maximum. I'm talking about the scissors boss fight.
I love me some Super Paper Mario…
*I wish we got a remake or a remaster.*
Super Paper Mario should have been the only spinoff of the series.
Because it *earned* it's title.
It's not what people wanted...
But it was certainly _good_
I completely agree with you.
I would have wanted that instead of what we got with origami king. I think a platformer paper mario would be better than a puzzle paper mario. I enjoyed Super Paper Mario a lot and would like to see that style again.
That aged well
Bruh I just wish things into existence
becareful with wat u ws
This video was needed. People need to accept that "It's not Sticker Star" doesn't mean it's a good game. That's just a lower bar.
There's nothing wrong with people enjoying a game you don't like, nobody needs to "accept" anything. Everyone can have their opinion. I love this game. Hell, I enjoyed Sticker Star fine enough. I'm not _wrong_ for liking these games.
@@FormulaFanboy Can you please elaborate onto where I said you couldn't enjoy this game? You can enjoy the pittiest of games like Sonic Forces and that's a valid posture.
I'm talking on an objective manner, since Origami King usually gets pity in an attempt to overlook its flaws. Yes, the game looks and sounds decent enough, but that doesn't make it automatically good. It just means it has a high production level.
@@victorford5047 Idk man, saying that people 'need to accept' your opinion comes across _a looot_ like you're saying they can't enjoy the game.
@@FormulaFanboy Eh, it's more about Twitter ranting on other games (older Paper Mario or not) glorifying Origami King in the process.
They can put backtracking as the worst thing in the world and then pretend Origami King didn't suffer its own issues related to exploration.
Sorry if it was misinterpreted as some stigmatizing. I personally enjoyed Color Splash.
@@victorford5047 That makes a little more sense, yeah. Honestly, Origami King is the first Paper Mario game I've played extensively, and by far my favourite part is exploring and solving all the little puzzles and whatnot. I'm generally not an RPG guy and I'm not crazy about RPG elements, but the world of TOK is just really cool and I like exploring it.
the editing, the writing, the EVERYTHING about this video is so good what the heck?? you're seriously underrated dude this is an amazing analisis of origami king (and the paper mario series as a whole)!!
I was surprised when I saw that Black Pit clip.
love the editing here, I think since the mario and luigi series is over, and that was main reason the last three games were the way they were. There could be hope for a more faithful and original paper mario
Yeah, let's face it, when the open-world presentation and the story are about the only things going heavily in the game's favor, it's hard to really call it good by a game standpoint. They were so close to getting this right, and if they hadn't stuck to this stubborn mentality that Paper Mario can't be an RPG anymore and maybe the arms thing was the only gimmick they felt like adding and they didn't feel the need to completely revamp the combat, this actually could have been amazing. I was even thinking if they don't want to bring EXP back, maybe have random encounters come with a reward of special red/blue coins that can be exchanged in gyms spread out across the world where Mario can pay to use the machines and increase his stats. Like, one could be for HP, another could be for physical attack, another could be for defense, and if they decide to bring this back, have one for FP. And for each upgrade, the price goes up by a decent amount.
Nintendo really said, "Why have fun RPG battle mechanics when you can do PUZZLES!" Yay.
Uh oh! You've attracted the Origami King fans!
Good video, impressive editing.
Even though the battle system in Origami King is very mid, this is still my 2nd favorite Paper Mario game (favorite is the Original) I didn't mind the story and the worlds were fun to explore, but what really stole the show, like you said, was the spectacle. The soundtrack is excellent and it's one of the most visually beautiful games I've ever played. I don't find it all too replayable, but when I played it, I had a good time.
It's extremely depressing how Nintendo and IS are holding this series from reaching its full potential. I still like the game, but man what it could have been.
Hey, we encourage different opinions here!
Curious your thoughts on 1000 year door, as I hold that as the series gold standard
@@golferninja i personally loved the origami king and streamed a bit of ttyd I think thats they both have there positives and negatives
And just fyi its its not Nintendo holding the series back its intelligent systems
@@aidenliveandreloaded2522 I'm not even saying Origami King is bad. I'm just saying what i want vs what this game brings to the table are two entirely separate things, don't waste your time on it.
@@golferninja oh i did not watch the video yet, a bunch of shit hit the fan today. I just tapped on the video then had to go
@@golferninja I loved TTYD, as any normal person would. Although I strongly prefer 64 when it comes to replay value as TTYD's chapter pacing isn't its strong point (people like to bring up chapter 4 but the entire game just doesnt have as good pacing as 64 does imo)
Still an easy 10/10 for me. I'd personally rate four of the Paper Marios as a 10. 64 for the best gameplay, TTYD a great mix of fun characters and gameplay, Super with it's great characters/story and fun settings. Origami King for it's presentation. Music slaps in all of them. I thought SS was okay because I grew up with it and I haven't played CS.
When you can feel dissatisfied after renting it, you know its shit
Stumbled across this and wanted to say well done! The quality of this video is on par with some of the big names! Keep producing stuff like this! It was fun, honest, and I loved your opening (and I agree... "how does one discuss origami king?!")
the origami king is like that one annoying yet kind sibling, you cannot hate them but they still are frustrating, I have not played the original two paper mario games but I have seen what people think. yes we have every right to be frustrated by nintendo doing this but they don't really have a choice from what they have said, and the game in like a middle ground to me, like it has a mix of both games in it. the ally system being region tied or story tied is annoying but makes sense, the ring system is annoying yet reminds me of thousand year door mechanics, and the weapons having durability instead of being one time use is close to them being permanently there since you will have enough coins after a while to get a set of the best weapons. it is like nintendo tried making the game an apology but tried to stick to the things modern kids know aswell.
Super paper Mario had a fantastic villain. I swear I play just for him. It wasn't all bad.
The most memorable thing about this game are the bosses
- incredible music
- decent personalities
- uhh...
- ....
- Oh! The desi- *...oh wait*
All of the editing is amazing, and all the love to your friends and family is awesome. Why am I just now getting this gem of a video
I'm glad you brought out how much of a drab overworld exploration became in this game AND the previous two. Color Splash constantly had me wanting I could do anything other than hammer and paint things. And the cutout thing, I guess??
Lotsa energy. I love your edits.
At least the music for TOK still slaps.
(Meh that's just just a series staple at this point)
I wish I could get back those 30 hours...
I'd disagree with Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario not having deeper stories. Thousand Year Door has TEC-XX who has you contemplating whether or not an AI can be a person, or feel love. You also get a twist in that Grodus, the bad guy you are expecting the whole game ends up being not being the main villain. Having to fight a possessed Peach is something very new. Super Paper Mario covers topics of abuse, prejudice, and fatalism among others.
I know you say you like the spectacle in TOK, but to me while the world is more colorful it has never looked so lifeless and soulless than it does now. The only reason I filled in those holes with confetti is because the world looks even more horrendous if you don't. There is only one scene where I thought "wow that genuinely looks pretty good", and that was when Olivia used the Water Vellumental* power to fill the lake. It also happens to be one of the only parts of the game where they drop the everything is paper obsession for a moment.
There is one point I keep seeing people miss when it comes to criticism of TOK(or as I prefer call it Paper Mario Bored of the Rings), and that is the spite it has towards classic Paper Mario and its fans. The motivation of the main villain is purely him being a mouthpiece that Tanabe can put the words of critics into. Tanabe has now portrayed fans of the classic games as petulant children that also happen to be genocidal maniacs. Ollie's entire argument is that there are "too many Toads", and that "they all look alike". Sticker Star shares some of this in that the only references to classic characters are in a literal garbage dump.
*I know Japan is big on puns, but Tanabe takes it to a whole new level. Vellum is a type of paper made from animal skin, and "turn based combat" seriously?
AAAA JUST GOT IT LMAO
Hey c‘mon, Super Paper Mario still had the soul of the old games. Sticker Star tho, there’s no excuse for that
Hmm yes
Let the anger flow through you like a boiling river of magma, hot indiscriminate and loud!
On a serious note had a bunch of laughs and enjoyed this video
I think I just watched someone lose their mind over a game about paper. Good stuff honestly
This video came into my recommendation and here's my take on it as a PMOK fan:
I really liked how you were honest about the game and I'm so sorry if people were somewhat toxic toward your opinion. Although I never played the game before, I like it because of its storytelling, design, music, and characters. I feel like this game is going in the right direction for the paper Mario franchise because sticker star and color splash were god-awful. I agree that the battle system is kinda iffy, but I was absolutely shocked that they somewhat had you have partners. Even if they didn't stay that long, at least each of them had their own personality. The only reason why I love this game so much is rather for a sad reason. 2020 was a really bad year for me and the game helped me keep my creativity alive and I used to draw a ton of fanart for the game (cringe ikk but wow the characters kept me sane during that year lmao)
Anyways keep up the good work with your content. Hopefully one day there will be another game like TTYD or even the Mario and Luigi series if they find another rpg company to partner with ^^;
wait, you’re a PMOK fan and you’ve never played it?
@@cowboyluigi5275 Yea, but I often interacted with artist from the community and talked about lore. The only paper mario game I personally played was TTYD as a child, but my dumb younger self was extremely bad at it, so I didn't make it far 😅
Great video fast paced editing will definitely be checking back for more
19:18 I see what you did there, “off the wall” lol nice move.
I actually agree with you on most of this, I’ve watched the game being played cause I couldn’t be bothered to actually buy it but it suffers hard in a lot of these areas and it makes me realize how all these companies are moving away from rpgs entirely. Square hasn’t had a turned based one since ff13 and dream team was the last true turn based rpg nintendo had besides pokemon. So I’m just saddened that besides nintendo the gaming industry seems to want to leave the rpg turnbased system behind.
With the Paper Mario TTYD Remake, Nintendo better never make the same mistake again
Bet you 10$ the next paper mario game ditches all the good stuff in TTYD/OGPM.
Between the Mario RPG remake, TTYD remake, and an entirely new Mario & Luigi game, I think they finally realized that the people want and need actual Mario RPGs again
Meaning, I don't think it's too unreasonable to either want or expect a TTYD styled Paper Mario on the Switch 2, partners, an actual story and progression and all
You can critique the game all you want, but you're gonna verbally attack Olivia? You crossed the line, man.
At least he didn't diss the music
@@nickdearth1663 True.
HOW DO YOU HAVE 300 SUBS? This is way too underated
I've always seen paper mario as 3 different series
The original 2
Super paper mario
And the recent 3
In my opinion all of them are at least ok but when you hold them up as a part of the same franchise it's messy
agreed, but like... why label them on the same banner if they're fundamentally different?
The music is great so it was worth it😍
Gotta disagree on the stories not being deep. Sure, they weren't as deep as your typical jrpg but in terms of mario they were the deepest stories we got out there and it all culminated to one of the best mario stories with super paper mario which showed a tale of love and how it drove someone to the lengths of nearly destroying the world. it's a shame things went downhill from there.
Color splash is goated tho :)
I don’t mean to be “that guy” but the footage you use for 15:54 is not from vanilla Paper Mario 64. But other than that this is a pretty good video.
AOVRC represent! Smashed it out of the park, DeeJay are you ok, DeeJay! Stay hydrated!
Although it's not the best paper Mario game, I still really like this one because of its great atmosphere
Surprised you felt anything for the bob omb named bob omb who blows up when every other character in the paper mario universe who was a bob omb just comes back after exploding
Yeah its kinda weird when you rermember bombette
Yeah, it was dumb.
"Where's my damn steak Nintendo?!"
It's not coming. I've given up hope on them actually making a worthwhile paper mario game and I'm just looking elsewhere now. They just don't want to do it. Unfortunately for them there are developers out there who do want to do it.
That's why it's best to boycott Origami King and buy Bug Fables.
Origami king was fun at first and when i used a couple glitches to bring partners where they aren't supposed to be. Bobby to the yellow streamer and Prof Toad to the green streamer. I think I'll try to 100% complete the game, but the battles and re-visiting previous maps after beating the final boss aren't even fun anymore.
But here's one thing i think everyone can agree with: Paper Mario's music is amazing
this is really well done I hope this video dose good and you do more!
underated ahh channel, great vid.
3:51 Nintendo is like Disney, but a lot more friendly to minorities.
and not because it gives 'em a paycheck.
ALSO Super was never meant to be anything more than just another thing for the Gamecube. don't give it flak for something that was Sticker Star's fault. we got Dimentio from Super, and that was enough.
Well said! And after so many years of good fictional media being produced, sure villains with more intrigue than Dimentio have popped up, but Dimentio will forever be the Mario series' #1 evil genius and one of my fave characters of all time!!!
@@ninjaydes dimentio is so fun!
Man, Geno fading out like that hits too hard.
Origami King is still a lot better than Sticker Star.
True, but 64 and TTYD is still king.
That still does not say much. Origami King still sucks.
@@retrofan4963 Speak for yourself. Fuck Origami King slander.
@@Rediscool9 Origami King is better than Sticker Star and Color Splash, but it still sucks. A Paper Mario game needs to be like TTYD to be good again.
that's a very low bar lmao
To me, a Paper Mario is the original N64 game, TTYD, SPM, or any number of "Paper Mario-likes" like _Bug Fables_.
Yay! I know you've been working on this for a while, and it's fantastic to see it out there! Also, thank you for preventing me from spending my money on this game
It's pretty good for me tho, it really depends on the person
I forgot all this great stuff existed because the game doesn't allow you to reset your save
This is amazing! Awesome video, I hope this does well in the algorithm, by the looks of things, it has been!
Honestly, on my totem pole, Origami King is 3rd from the bottom. Not as good as the first three (Of which I shall not explain the order), but MUCH better than Color Splash and Sticker Star.
14:57 That's actually a gain of 0.33%. RIP The Math.
How long did you freakin take to caption this entire video OH MY GOD
Too long. Way too #$^%ing long.
Boy it's satisfying to hear such an unfiltered rant about TOK
It’s because You’re a TTYD Fanboy that rants about every other paper Mario game 💀
@@garfieldthatonecat4824 What's wrong with being a TTYD fan? It's an amazing game. One that has inspired a generation of RPG-fanatics, myself included.
I've been a fan of it since I was a child, where I replayed it, Paper Mario 64, and Super over and over again. I always hoped for a new game that took Super's story, combined it with TTYD's tight combat system and 64's whimsical music and settings to create the ultimate Paper Mario experience.
But I guess now, that will never happen. This series's current direction in game lineup is one reason I have stopped supporting Nintendo.
Is being unsatisfied with a franchise's direction a crime? Do you think that TTYD fans want to hate the current Paper Mario? Because most of them don't, they gave TOK a chance, but are just legitimately sad that a franchise they once held so highly as Nintendo's juggernaut of a console seller is now just a joke-filled Disney fastpass of an "RPG."
@@SuperSiege You’re just one of those Annoying TTYD Stans that Throw a Temper tantrum Over every paper Mario game after that. Like if don’t like a certain game, Then just don’t play it instead of acting like a 10yr old. :/
@@garfieldthatonecat4824 But I like 64 and Super Paper Mario collectively more than TTYD....they're all equally good in my eyes. I even liked some parts of Color Splash, rare as they were. I don't own a switch, so I can't play TOK, but I likely would've enjoyed parts of it too.
It's really the gameplay and reward system I have the most problem. I don't hate the game, more so how you're allowed to play it.
Did you not even read what I said and assumed that because I defended OP that I'm a TTYD elitist or something?
@@garfieldthatonecat4824 Also, I'm sick of the whole, "if you don't like it, don't play it" argument because it totally devalues why we discuss our opinions on media in the first place. A game that is seen as beyond criticism is probably one not worth playing to begin with.
I might as well tell you that if you don't like a comment, then don't reply. Or if you don't like what a person says, then just don't say anything.
Your silence is your choice, but just wanting to have your opinion about something heard is not a crime or immature.
It's just part of being human.
Y'know, I really clicked on this video expecting to hear the same ol' "not TTYD or SPM = bad game" argument but wow you actually cooked with this one. Mentioned a lot of personal gripes I have with the game too and explained how fundamentally flawed they are for an RPG game, but honestly, I can't blame Intelligent Systems for how it is these days.
It seems like they're doing their best to create a deep and original plot (with the whole broken family concept and life and death in the paper world) with interesting mechanics (1000F Arms and Vellumentals probably being the modern answer to the curses from TTYD) but simply cannot do so due to Nintendo wanting all non-mainline Mario games as "Mickey Mouse simple and -clean- easy" as possible, thus leaving behind a skeleton of what once was. I just wish that the Big N could have more fun with the greater Mario series nowadays like they did in the 00s. And that doesn't just go for Paper Mario, this extends to other spinoffs like the Mario Party and especially the Sports games too (idk why Mario+Rabbids specifically gets to take creative liberties, but I'm so glad it does). Like I can understand that they want to keep the world and franchise recognisable for newcomers, but the wackiness and unpredictability is what made it so popular in the first place. They should try and make compromises for it every now and then rather than just take it all away outside of the mainline games and one RPG spinoff series.
I think I'm gonna stop typing now because what is essentially 50 seconds worth of my thoughts shouldn't be able to produce a paragraph this big, but you get the idea.
Edit: I never really mentioned the editing or humour in this video, but yeah, you nailed the target. I'd definitely see what else you have in store for this channel.
Kinda feel like how the Marvel Movies are ending up like now, innit?
Omg! I found a gem of a channel! This video was so funny and also a great retrospective on the game. Amazing job! ❤
Yes it is.
I love TTYD to death and I get the criticism Origami King gets, but I can't help it, I still like this game. It's so charming, I had a blast playing it.
Honestly great video I may not agree with some of these points but watching this was very entertaining you’ve earned a new subscriber keep up the great work :]
Honestly, I'd buy the game just for the music
🤝
it was worth my time though
I wish you talked about the music and the art style/cutscenes/animations
But he did went into the art style?
But, art style and music are supposed to compliment the gameplay and add to it, so if the gameplay isn't enjoyable for him, it's a bit pointless to focus on those two things since they won't salvage it anyway
@Duskool I'm not saying that those things actually save the game or anything it just feels like it sacrifices comprehensiveness to not even briefly acknowledge them
I think this video was very very well made. A lot of the edits were pretty funny, and I can see where your coming from with most of your opinions. Hating Olivia however? I don’t even know if I can trust someone who hates her. Like, how?
Thanks for this video, I'm really tired of people on twitter saying it is good or fun
Says the TTYD Fanboy
@@garfieldthatonecat4824 I am a TTYD fanboy but I prefer the N64 one
@@garfieldthatonecat4824 TTYD is a good game dude
I genuinely gasped seeing you only had 273 subscribers. This is the type of video I'd expect out of someone with 20k subscribers at *least.* Good stuff!! Keep up the incredible content!! I had a blast with this video!
Very entertaining video you have a ton of potential especially with the editing style I’m going to subscribe
Or #4 you actually like the game and are here to defend it.
I only know paper Mario from smash bros
You totally missed out on the opportunity to talk about Super paper Mario actually having a good story, even if gameplay already went down the drain.
But as far as I'm concerned I recognize only one "paper rpg" : Bug Fables.
People who like this game are wrong
you deserve more recognition (also thanks for not shitting too hard on super paper mario since i really love how it sorta innovated a combination between mario platforming and action rpg elements)
Honestly, imagine how the bosses would've been if they WIELDED the Things instead of being them
Imagine a commander goomba, with a pencil rocket launcher
Imagine Stapler Chain Chomp
LITERALLY ANYTHING WITH SCISSORS AS A COOL ASS DUELIST.
Literally the only thing wrong about the bosses (other than the battle sistem but that's independent) is the lack of designs.
just wanna say that wouldve been amazing!
i love the objects as i said in another comment, but they’re LITERALLY office supplies hah.
that chain chomp wouldve been so coool
The battle system made me drop the game. Having to always solve a ring puzzle is annoying.
At least you finished it
I couldn't
I was way to bored
Like the bosses are fun but thats it
Came here because i just found oragami king for 25 dollers on ebay. Thanks for saving me 25 dollers lol
[spoiler for the game]
When Bobby died I literally cried man, they were also my favorite character and just seeing them sacrifice themselves for Olivia is beyond me; I literally feel like crying right now as I type this because holy sh#t what I would give to see bobby again is everything, I’d give everything. Cheers bobby; i know damn well that’s not your name but it’s better than Bob-omb, and I hate and love how the message is that Bobby was literally “like every other bob-omb, just wanting to make a change and be helpful”
15:50 The clip of Stylish in Paper Mario 64 is a bit deceitful. That's a mod.
ive not heard anyone get this exact angry tone in their voice since watching sequelitis. anyways good video :) also ty for not ragging on super paper mario too much, that game owns and is super cool and i feel like people give it a hard time more often than it deserves
No Paper Mario game after sticker Star is worth your time
Man is going places
Go play Bug Fables if you miss old paper Mario, you won't be disappointed, actually a great story too
Bugs are depressing
@@a.3160 it's a good game though 🥺
I wish you went into the plot. Just because the plot doesnt break the mold that doesnt it isnt great well written
i cant believe some people even defend this game.
I mean, the music is still godlike.
@@kiwifluorite this isnt a music album. This is a game.
@@OmegaChase1002 with music, and the music is amazing
@@kiwifluorite im from the sonic fandom. Trust me when i say "at least the musics good" just simply does not work.
I feel like the story was too simple, but i like the theme of a summer vacation and going out to enjoy the world, and the bosses had personalities, the pencil box was an artist, the rubberband ball was an actress, untill the ocean tower, that tape was sooo boring, then i feel that in the sky spa the theme just faded away, i think is decent on its own, its just the difference with the prequels that drags it down
While I enjoy the music and visuals in this game, and I've never had much trouble with battles and input, I do recognize that there are some:
1. It was a terrible decision to kill off both Olivia, and Bobby (who you spend not much time with at all)
2. To have Olly's motivation kind of poke at those who dislike the toad epidemic, I think it probably made a few people upset.
3. The size of the world, and Mario's max walking speed make even going to a museum pipe take a while, not too long, but still kinda bothersome (especially when if I'm remembering correctly, last 2 games let you straight up leave to the map without going to the entrance of the level). I feel like some kind of fast travel item (like a folded up return pipe), or more pipes similar to the one leading from the origami throne room to the castle entrance could've benefitted this game.
4. Vellumental powers can be used in regular battles and basically skips a wave for you if the enemy holding the panel is killed, but it's random and very rare where they appear (I think). This definitely could've been a manually activated ability instead.
5. So if I remember correctly, winning a battle even after cheering gives you some of your money back, a perfect bonus should only be if Mario defeats his foes without getting hit *or cheering.*
6. This whole "we can't change character design" stuff is stupid, what exactly did the development of Sticker Star do to prevent modification of characters? Why didn't Tanabe tell why? Is he intentionally trying to split the PM fandom in half?
7. Xp was apparently considered for this game, but just not implemented for whatever reason.
@TheOnly3rd This game's been out for like, 3 years how'd you just discover it?
Haha please help everything hurts :) you mean [[it burns! Ow! Stop! Stop! Help me! It burns!]]
These new paper Mario games are so insulting and poorly designed.
Honestly, of the Modern Trilogy (Sticker, Color, Origami), I'd say that TOK is the closest to the OG Trilogy. The writing is good (they're actually _characters_ this time), the humor is unironically chuckle-worthy, and the gameplay is... heading in the right direction. Is it comparable to the OG Trilogy? Sort of. Is it a fun game on its own merits? I personally think so, but everyone is welcome to their own opinions, and you definitely made some valid points about it. Also, Everyone's Still Toads.
It was freaking hilarious just hearing you lose your mind. XD
*Cry some more.*
No, but I agree. I don't look as much on the combat as I do plot, but what you said still makes sense.
I lost this game. I guess it was a blessing in disguise. I found the enemy encounters to be okay, but the bossses were damn near impossible with trying to get near the center. I couldn’t get past the first boss without a guide. I shouldn’t have to do that. Just give me the game, a quick tutorial, and then I will pick up the game easily. The paper Mario the thousand year door for the switch has me on a more positive note 😊
You have an amazing energy for this shit.
Bro payed $60 to cry about Super Mario 😭
A minute in but I'm gonna share my quick thoughts about this game after playing through it and screensharing my one and only playthrough to a friend of mine that only played SPM but is aware of the series going on a sharp downhill Sticker Star onwards.
Origami King is probably the first game I felt this much mixed feelings towards. There's stuff I liked but also so much I absolutely couldn't stand...
23:00-ish didn't she encouraged professor toad to go his separate way because of Bobby at the end of his chapter tho?