USYK'S A LOT BETTER THAN TYSON FURY! 🔥 | EP71 | talkBOXING with Spencer Oliver & George Groves
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- 00:00 - Introduction
00:58 - Carl Froch v George Groves 3?!
07:56 - What's Next For Anthony Joshua?/Heavyweight Landscape
31:30 - Reaction to Chris Eubank JR Statement?
36:51 - Any Other Business
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More George Groves, less Simon Jordan please 🙏
When's Spencer gonna bang him out for continuously mugging him off
More groves is needed on talk sport 🥊
Groves is right, Usyk is lot better, but a bit older and much much smaller.
Usyk is 37 years old, this age is very old for a fighter who uses the speed and footwork the most
@@redblacktichy7713 he didn’t look great against Dubois. Dubois is decent but Usyk looked a lot less dangerous than when he fought Joshua
@@Yiealo6372jd Sad, but true.
@@redblacktichy7713 this is the annoying thing with boxing really. We get the fights we want 3+ years too late. AJ fury talk all the time about them fighting, it’s a joke they haven’t already really
@@Yiealo6372jd Excatly! Cherry picking fight for Fury
29:27 - 29:39
Is Spencer for real? LOOK AT GEORGE'S FACE AFTER SPENCER INTERRUPTS HIM FOR THE 100th TIME! He was dying to say something! Why ask him a question and then answer it yourself? George's face at 29:36 says it all.
Yes exactly what I was thinking
Talksport lads love the sound of their own voice. Look at them all GAD, Spencer, Simon J. Too many egos chapping at the bit for their chance to speak.
Groves is a brilliant boxing ambassador
He is an idiot 😂😂😂 how he can come to the conclusion Usyk is way better than Fury. After both there previous performances is just stupid.
Spencer you almost made this unlistenable- let others speak lad x
Spot on fella. He’s so irritating 😤
he's been schooled by Simon Jordan, that's why
@@gpm2564He has a wealth of knowledge! As opposed to that Davis muffin!
Froch and Groves everytime please 🙏 and not GAD 🤮.
Absolutely!
Is there a single fan who would rather listen to GAD than GG?
@@ballgaininc.5471gad is top man in boxing
@@ballgaininc.5471 GAD looks like Bono's dad.
Be nice if you would let George speak … 4 times in a row you cut him off
Groves is always good value. Never swerves a question.
Until you ask about him and Adam Booth lol
Spencer ‘you’re only as good as your last fight’ Oliver 😂
Haha hes such a cheese
stop interrupting
Love Spencer but he unfortunately does drag questions out to death and then interrupts
It's the talksport way mate. It's bizarre but how they do things. They do it for football too. They all think they are that tit Piers Morgan!
Groves and Froch have become a great double act. It's lovely to see, genuinely
its nice that Groves is able to talk enthusiastically about a fight that he got poleaxed in . Refreshing in a sport full of huge egos., I doubt Froch would be willing to do the same.
I know froch as been beat but I'm not sure he's ever been poleaxed so no he wouldn't be able to talk enthusiastically as it didn't happen lol
@@judshuttie70 i guess the point I’m trying to make is that Froch wouldn’t be particularly interested in getting on stage to discuss the schooling he took from Andre Ward alongside Andre Ward.
Tyson and Usyk is a hard fight to call .
Most sensible comment I’ve seen concerning this fight
Exactly! Only sentimental fans think otherwise in my opinion.
To be honest with a rematch it's kind of irrelevant who wins the first one whoever wins the second is probably the end of the line for one of them.. The worrying issue is how soon is the planned rematch and how much nonsense and delays will we have to go through again.
Personally Usyks plan can only be the typical smaller fighter tactic, survive early rounds and big hits and get a win by landing punches to get a points win. Zhang v Parker is prime example..
@@ItsTSNonline.... zhang also had a rematch clause against Parker if he lost
rematch he's don't need to happen
The video is so quiet compared to the adverts, proper annoying!!!
Well done George. So refreshing to hear balanced boxing critical thinking rather than the cult of fury propaganda we are subjected to week after week. Full marks show 👍🏽💪🏽
Thank f--k its not the GAD but someone that knows boxing.
Gareth A. Davies is a sublime, erudite and eloquent critic. His reading of Greek classics and 18th century poetry lends an air of sophistication to his boxing discourse. Despite being a fool to many a commoner, his charmed enthusiasm to persist in culturation of the riff raff speaks volumes to his integrity and canonical knowledge. Gentleman, and Ladies, it is only by really listening to Gareth A. Davies that I have been able to write such a prose, with such linguistic skill, in honour of his educative values and high culture. Mark his words, for they will echo whispers through eternity.
@@jmarsh5485 🤣
@@jmarsh5485 Ha!
@@jmarsh5485 Ha!
@@jmarsh5485Gareth grates on me too but all these that say he knows nothing about boxing i guarantee Gareth’s been too wrote about and watched more boxing longer than half the kids in the comment section have been Alive
I really like Groves as a pundit, one of the few British personalities who remains completely objective, especially in regards of his analysis and opinion on the Dubois low blow and his prediction of Usyk v Fury.
Spencer seems like a nice guy, but his punditry and opinions are too biased. We need more objectivity here. I guess Groves balances it out 😅
At last we got Groves speaking the truth regarding Lennox Lewis and this era…… NOBODY of this era would last five rounds with the Lion LL…..
Same dude that got knocked out by 2 cab drivers
@@joshladd5073 there is always one armchair imbecile…..
@joshladd5073 lennox would hammer these heavyweights if he was fighting now......guy was class......
@@joshladd5073those two cab drivers would run through most of today's heavyweights with ease
McCall was no pushover neither was Rahman
Shows what you know
@@HarryWilliams-ck5li ive been screaming this for years. Mccall was a beast and Rahman would be a champion if fighting today 100%
Froch vs Groves one was better.
Groves isn’t scared to be unfashionably honest🇬🇧👊🏼
Thank god groves is on here one of the least delusional people on this channel
Usyk is way too mobile for Fury. If Usyk keeps turning Fury all night we will see an embarassing shut out win for Usyk.
If Usyk suddenly forgets how to box and allows Fury to 'jab and grab' and lean all over Usyk all night then fury can win but I just can't see Usyk falling for any of Furys old feints and tricks.
Fury is a shot fighter, no matter how much weight he loses it won't change how poor he is now. the legs have gone and his punch resistance is very low now.
I think Usyk will quite happily box his way to a points win and show the gulf it skill. People will be shocked how slow Fury looks compared to Usyk.
I honestly think Fury will stop Usyk....
Derek chisora both fighters have boxed ...one fighter schooled chisora 3 times the other didn't....
Usyk doesnt get a say... he will do nothing with Fury and in 3 weeks we can all find out!!
@@adamrowland830 1. Fury nearly got knocked out in the first fight vs. Chisora. #2, if that's how you compare fighters, then are you admitting AJ is leagues better than Fury? Both fighters faced Francis, and Fury got humiliated and barely scraped by a split decision, meanwhile AJ SMASHED him in just over 1 round. Huh, AJ schooled the dude who flattened Fury. Stand by that logic?
@@importantvideos4529 YOUR TALKING RUBBISH
Can’t see anybody beating a modern day cruiser weight legend like Usyk, he’s too good for the current division
At cruiser
@@davehoward22He is the current Unified Champion.
@@waterfordbhoy He is
hated groves while he fought but I'm thinking I was wrong he's a good lad and better boxer than I thought
How can you hate a fighter
Interested to know what you hated about him?
Odd to hate a man you've never met
Please get Spencer off this show! George was a great as usual
Spencer needs to learn not to talk too much. Questions are too long, interrupts more than Piers Morgan.
Not even watched this yet and I can literally already hear the sound of Brits in caravans getting mega triggered 🤣
Think fury will gloves trick again reach 95inch
I guarantee you wouldn’t last 10 seconds in person with any one of those “Brits”, manners put on you straight away! 😂
Brits in caravans know boxing. Femi fanboys in third world slums don't understand boxing😂
Brits in caravans knows more about boxing than AJ fanboys from third world countries
Any brits in caravans would demolish you
Spencer speaks like boxing is so complicated to understand. Eubanks statement is straightforward, and his father was told him years ago. Spencer consistently says boxers are prize fighters so you shouldn't have an issue when Eubank fights for the most money. He understands his limitations so good luck to him.
As a neutral and a casual I'm still waiting for these pundits to tell me from a technical perspective how Usyk overcomes a 6" height disadvantage, and also an appropriate 6" reach disadvantage against Fury, who knows how to use it?
Spencer Oliver & a few others say he can’t, while the others say he can & will. In any event the trick is to never trust the media on anything they say as they’re in the entertainment business & will always serve an agenda before telling the truth…..
Not long to wait and you can see it happen
I think they reckon he will try gas fury out like he does everyone else. Gases them, then overwhelmes them with tappy tappy shots
5 inch difference or less in reality. 6'2.5-6'3 Usyk vs 6'7-6'7.5 Fury.
Because he’s fast enough to get in and out of reach without getting hit
Weird how TalkSport keep talking about an event they're banned from.
Have the not bought the rights?
Yeah cos a boxing channel shouldn't talk about the first undisputed heavyweight bout since 1999, really weird...
@powpow9560 Or they could be fair to all involved and have the rights to the once in a generation unification.
They chose to do the opposite. If they don't want the rights there's no point in wanting the clicks.
@@D--p-ff9sr No. Catterall will do a little watch along with 120 viewers without being allowed to show any footage.
@@simonhh When are they not fair to all involved? What are you on about?
Spence let George get his thoughts out without interrupting or steering it back to what you want to say
Lennox lewis would spark any heavweight now days... to big hits to hard and moves to good👌
Fully agree with Mr Grooves on Usyk 100%, on Wilder I think Malik is trying to create a boxer out of Wilder of which he isn't a boxer but a puncher, Xhilei may be because of his weight but always strike me as a poorly fit boxer always gasing out.
Parker never die attitude and this time around Joyce stands no chance, may be Xhilei and Miller must be made, looking forward to Luiz and Miller though.
Very balanced and considered analysis from George as always. He'll be a great commentator. On Wilder vs Zhang, yes I'd have to go with Zhang; apart from his other assets, he is the more clever fighter IMO, but he will have to get Wilder out of there early because if he tires in the later rounds, Wilder is more likely to catch him with the big right hand. Although I'm edging towards Zhang, watching Wilder's demeanour at the presser he really seems to feel that this is his last throw of the dice and I have a strong feeling he will perform a lot better than he did last time out.
Usyk is going to collect all of the Infinity Stones! Fully competing the boxing game at 100% via World Gold, Olympic Gold, Muhammad Ali trophy, Undisputed Cruiserweight, Undisputed Heavyweight, Lineal, Ring Magazine, Undefeated, Pound for Pound #1, TBE, The Greatest. There’s just beauty in symmetry!
infinity stones? you alright?
What have you been smoking mate?
How does George groves feel about calzaghie? Does anyone know?
I agree with there take on ex fighters going into punditry as long as they don’t become shills for the bbboc, as many of the football pundits are for the FA but they are on the payroll of SkyBet FA Premier League. But love to hear Bellew, Froch, Nelson and Co talk in detail on fight night, they see it differently to a commentator or Journalist
I don’t watch Talk Sport if Simon Jordan is on I only clicked on this because I saw it was groves in for him don’t mind spencer
Ironically if Eubank was a bit sharper he'd have realised years ago that having a title adds more stacks to his purse if all he cares about is cash.
A champion and a title fight adds more spice to a fight and therefore sells more with the champ very much in the driving seat(look how Fury sells his status for example) to work bigger purses and a bigger percentage of the pot and more.
No insults and just boxing talk 👌🏻 loved this
Disagree with Groves on Usyk beating Fury..but will say Groves is a fantastic fighter.. hes a much better fighter than people give him credit for.. One of the best to come out of Great Britain, fasts hands, fast feet, headmovement, good boxing IQ, explosive, fun to watch.
Eubank should go with eddie.
Fury vs Usyk for Undisputed. Poor AJ n Eddie had years to make it happen but failed miserably
True, Anthony Joshua ducked Undisputed with Wilder 3 times in 2018. He ducked Fury twice last year to fight Franklin and Helenius for no belt and less money😂
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma you both talk absolute nonsense, The reason It never happened for AJ in response to Ashleys answer , is Wilder spent years shouting his mouth off, getting over 100 mil offers from DZAN, and didnt take any of the offers, This tells you who didnt want to fight, Wilder hadnt earnt anywhere near that money, nowhere close, and to turn it down tells you all u need to know. He just piped up everytime Aj fought to get some clout off AJs name. Wilder is a bum whos never beaten anyone of any worth at all in the top teir.
As for Fury, Fury priced himself out numerous times to fight AJ, AJ had 3 or 4 of the belts and Fury had none, and Fury wanted 60-40 in his favor, totally pricing himself out, Whilst the whole time he knew he was going to be facing wilder for a 2nd and 3rd time.
And to say AJ ducked fury and fought franklin instead is bs, AJ had just come off of 2 losses, and everybody knows AJ needed to restore some confidence, he needed a few fights to gain this.... And how ironic it is that at AJs lowest time, having lost twice, this is the time Fury decides to go on social media giving deadlines pretending to want to fight AJ , again to gain clout and try to make AJ look bad.
AJ has by far the best resume out of all of them, and you 2 clowns cant stop hating the guy, whilst bumming the other 2 nobodies who have done f all, Furys last meaningful win was 8 years ago, and even after that he ran a mile from the contracted rematch. The guys a pussy and cherry pics all the time. whilst taking minimal risk.
And Wilder has always been massively over hyped, never beaten anyone, didnt even fight anyone in the top 40 in his 1st 32 fights lol. Its easy to have 40 knockouts fighting bums isnt it, He arguably lost all 3 to Fury, then got battered by Parker,
So the 2 times Wilder actually stepped up he lost, which leaves his best win is probably Ortiz who is 50 years old, and whom wilder was losing every round in both fight until he clipped Ortiz,
So plz... Dont talk blx, because people who know the hole story will call you out on the rubbish you spout between you.
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Brand new user dedicated to Joshua. You are smashing life lad 🤣
@@HuwEvans.cope
You truly are obsessed. 🤣 Fury and Usyk are fighting for Undisputed, why are you bringing the “gimmick” fighter into this conversation? What’s it about AJ that makes you so obsessed? Are you attracted to tall muscular Black men???
It's a better show with Spencer and groves
It’s not ! Spencer is a tit
The only way this version of Fury beats Usyk is if Usyk has aged overnight, so too speak ( im not sure if Usyk didnt respect Dubois but he looked a lot slower than vs AJ where he was constantly moving in and out and feint and jabs etc i just hope he doesnt have too take 2 many rounds off to reserve Energy as Fury will be trying to tie him up and lean on him for the 1st 6 rounds .. very interesting fight dont think itll be the most exciting fight but for true boxing fans it doesnt get any better than this
Groves top quality in and out the ring 🇬🇧
This show improves massively without jordan please give him next week off as well
I think aj could beat fury after fury last fight I was not impressed
Tbh it’s possible. Fury might be finished and we will find out this fight, if he loses I think he retires
I think Fury knocks out Anthony Joshua based on Andy Ruiz making him quit
I think AJ demolishes Fury considering how he demolished Wallin and Ngannou.
See how that works😂@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
Definitely agree Lewis would come out on top in this era but would likily have upsets along the way like he had in his own era its the heavyweights and everyone can hit hard.
Two English Boxing Legends 💪😃🤜
wheres link to buy geore groves tickets
I think George is one of the best ex boxers to listen to. Seems like a genuine guy.
Oliver interviews Oliver, again.
100% wasn’t a low blow. The rule is below the hip line not the belt line or belly button. Good man Spence.
Correct it wasnt. By rights DDD won those belts
dream on
Every referee before a fight references the belt line. I suppose they're all wrong and you're right.
@@jimmycricket7385 it doesnt matter what the ref says, Rules are Rules... the belt line is the belt line and thats precisely were the shot landed. Iv had the argument many times and if a body shot lands one to 2 inches below the belly button then that is still the stomach or the naval. Unless you struggle with anatomy that is a body shot. Its okay if your a Usyk fan but it wont change reality. If you wanna ignore that, thats your business. The eyes dont lie!
@@jimmycricket7385 the ref will also reference the shorts more than than anything else... if Usyk had his shorts too high thats his problem. Right after he gets up he pulls his shorts down. Just like you the Ref was a Usyk fan🤷♂️
Didn't miss Simon Jordan
Lower weights people always pick lower weight people fighting bigger weights to win.
Amazing!
I believe if Usyk beats Fury he will retire and quit at the top.
Nah he wants the bag to much.
36:55 Starting the preview of a Canelo Alvarez fight with "what happens after he wins". Its a decent fight in its own regard with enough talking points there and fair play to George for getting back to the actual fight.
Way better wirh Spencer and groves or froch
There's better shelve life value if Wilder struts out and chins Zhang. Zhang's a likable guy but he's older and has that language barrier so we're just not getting that spice in the build up to his fights unlike Wilder who just like AJ and Fury have that flare if needs be at press conferences which for me is worth half the fight as a complete entertainment value package.
I'd lean towards Zhang winning purely because he's clearly the superior skillset as a boxer along with patience and a huge bomb of his own but with Wilder he's generally always looked like a clumsy clueless disaster until he flashes one of those lightning bolts home and the other guys asleep wondering how the hell that happened in a fight they might have been in complete control of.
Enjoy them so long as they're here because when Wilder, AJ and Fury go there's really no characters left that stand out as interesting. You might not like any of those 3 guys, but they do generate interest and entertainment. All that's left is 2 word interview guys like DDD and Usyk and Ruiz etc. Nice guys, good fighters but dull personalities 🤣
Fury's never fought anyone since wilder, saying that he only fought wilder because of his lack of boxing ability
And your boy AJ has lost three times.
@@tonywhitby8602 not an AJ fan
Love to see more of Eubank jr he needs more regular fights don’t no if he even boxing once a year needs some one to help him love him or hate him he can fight and is entertaining hope to see him soon
Usyk hasn't fought anyone as skilled as Fury
he was in 2 competitive distance fights against aj who cannot box has a bad engine and dodgy chin
it's Usyk who is in for the rude awakening
Always thought groves started slow in the second fight to try save energy for the later round. Remember the round before the knockout he really started to turn it up. Obviously nothing you can do with the knockout but i wonder if he regrets not going for it
Froch and groves to replace the usual hostss 😂😂😂
Groves knows his sht! 👊
These 2 have great chemistry and I enjoy watching them talk boxing.
Groves is a great analyst
George Groves was very good on this show. I'd like to see him team up with Simon Jordan for an episode.
I totally agree with George Groves in regards to Chris Eubank jr. He's own dad Chris Snr has even said he's chasing the money & fame instead of boxing for titles.
100% glad George groves agrees with the low blow. Spencer has called it a good punch since day 1. Would never let Spencer referee a fight.
Eubank definitely goes for the money. Watch his fight vs Smith 1st time around. Watch both fighter's ring walks. Look at their faces. One man knows he can't lose. One man knows he's going to lose. If you can bet on it. It's fixed.
All the Fury fangirls will be fuming with this 🤣🤣🤣
The fight will tell the story mate.. until then..
@@emmettoliver Fury wins easy! Far too big
Not at all just one more so called expert going to eat crow
All Femi fangirls were fuming when Efe Ajagba said that Anthony Joshua's not a real Nigerian😂
@HuwEvans. but wasn't A.J also far too big?? 😂
Everyone underestimated George Groves, loved him as a boxer. Had an amazing career with some defining fights and titles.
Spencer Oliver interviews himself 😆
Usyk is the favourite for me because he lives the life and is more disciplined than Fury
It's true Usyk lives the life, but Fury is the wild card. You never know with him - he could have a bad training camp and still pull off a win! That's why it's gonna be a great match..
@@jsmnzgb I Agree Fury could pull off a win
Lenox Lewis was a great fighter, the jab and the huge right hand, he just set everything up with jab and that era had some great talent I would put prime Lewis against anyone of this era
Need groves on instead of Spencer
Definitely not... Simon jordans massive ego often dominates the conversation, also he has very little knowledge of boxing compared to spencer who is an ex boxer, ex champion and has lived the boxing life his whole life. Simon jordan is a personality not a boxing pundit and it's a very grating and narcissistic personality lol in fact in a lot of ways his personality has caused more issues for talk sport than it has benefitted it ultimately.
I’m also backing Usyk to beat Fury, this will be a very tactical fight, Usyk just needs to make sure he doesn’t let fury lean all over him
It wasn't a narrow win for Parker, cillit bang was done by round 6
TALK OLIVER . never shuts the F up . let Groves have is say
Here’s an idea spencer just ask the question with no preamble
Remember when Fury used to wear them big silly long green shorts, and look like a big clumsy oaf, punching himself in the face..
Uysk going to remind people of that again.
Let’s see all this fantastic agility and movement Fury apparently has.
Same agility needed for Usyk as Fury has an enormous reach advantage coupled with the best jab in the heavyweight division
@@Andrew-is7rs DELUDED
@@freedom4life123
Stating a fact that Fury has the best jab in the hw division which bear everyone in the game agrees on coupled with the fact he also has an 8” reach advantage is ‘deluded’ is it now kiddo?
😁👍😘🍿
@@Andrew-is7rs😂😂 Fury most definitely doesn’t have the best jab at heavyweight.
@@siralexferguson4640
But he dies though friend, hence why near everyone in boxing agrees!
Cheers
🥂
Spencer *You was outboxing him AJ* Oliver
The problem with Georgie boy, David Haye and the Cobra is that they are household names but let's face it Tyson Fury is a national treasure that's where the Jealousy comes from. Come on the Fury out national treasure
Groves is a cool dude always liked him as a boxer. Although im a bit confused about his beef with Tyson and being honest it is coming across incredibly salty... Cool show though
George has never got over that battering by Froch at Wembley... got folded like a deck chair on Brighton beach
Try to cope fella 😂
@matthewturner8063 oh I just stated facts.. looks like you've been triggered again.. now don't go self harming again.. remember call the support lines.. 🙏
@@emmettoliver Lashing out because Groves is backing Usyk rather than Fury. That is literally you trying to cope hard 🤣
@matthewturner8063 I didn't lash out.. I just stated facts.. cope mate. And please promise me you won't start self harming again when Fury becomes undisputed
Are you upset he’s picked Usyk over Fury? It’s just an opinion.
SPENCER SHUT UP AND LET PEOPLE SPEAK!
19:56 you don't have to think Spencer, there are videos.
Spence I watched the interview he said sure he would fight him again but he DOESNT think the appetites there for it now he thinks everyone wants him v fury which is bang on
Everything George is saying regarding Usyk is spot on but If Fury beats him what does it say about Fury. It would be a great win that I don’t think fury will get credit for
Fury doesn't get credit for knocking out Wilder twice. Wilder was ducked by Anthony Joshua multiple times before Fury went to the US to fight him
@@Anthony_Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Wilder is useless. 🤣
He wasnt useless untill Fury destroyed him in the 2nd fight though was he? Even after Fury schooled him in the first fight - every man and his dog (apart from me) backed Wilder to knock him out still.... funny that
How long did he reign with the WBC belt knocking everyone out! Despite his useless boxing skill according to you he still managed an olympic bronze medal also... maybe hes better than people give him credit for. Saying Wilder is useless is like saying David Beckham cant cross a ball... just say nothing eh
@@chrismitchell6923 Who’s his best win?
Groves knows his stuff 💪🏻
You guys are slaying Tyson Fury always and always why can't you give him a chance ...what if he beats Usyk yo'all will be in shame and shambles...common give de man a chance
Bit of advice for ya lil man
Shut up ! A guest is there for a reason and that's not to hear you interrupt every 2 seconds !
Fury pull out excuse due anyday now.
@chriswest2290
Exactly mate… still people are back talking the fight up. Hope it happens, but can’t see fury turning up.
£10million worth of excuses.
Haters.
I said he wouldn’t fight usyk simply because he’s scared to lose his zero but if he pulls out now he’s a joke
@@Rockstarnic88 so what is he if he doesnt pull out then mate? Or do you just not like him?
How will fury impose his size on him when usyk is always moving?
Because usyk has to get close to score
Would be great if Spencer could ask a question without answering it himself first
I can’t believe they are still talking about their fight 😂
Slightly off topic - Both have had brilliant hair transplants - esp grovesy!
Spence interviewing himself with George watching on