The Biggest Problem With Fashion School
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ต.ค. 2024
- Fashion schools are facing a growing need for change, particularly in how they structure their design programs and the resources available to students. One of the key issues is the increasing reliance on technicians and external designers, which disproportionately benefits wealthier students. In many fashion schools, students have access to technicians who assist in constructing garments, but the amount of support students can access is often limited by time or the availability of staff. As a result, wealthier students are able to circumvent these limitations by paying for external designers, pattern makers, and seamstresses to bring their creative visions to life. This outsourcing not only gives them an advantage in terms of producing more polished, professional-quality work but also allows them to focus on the more conceptual aspects of their designs, without having to deal with the technical or practical challenges that less affluent students must face on their own.
This inequality creates a significant gap in the quality of student work, leading to unfair competition in an environment that is supposed to foster creativity and skill development equally. When students are assessed based on the final product, those who can afford external help often have an edge over those who cannot, making the playing field far from level. Fashion education is expensive enough without these additional costs, and by allowing external designers to contribute to student projects, schools inadvertently prioritize wealth over talent. This system is unsustainable and risks reinforcing elitism in the fashion industry, where financial resources can overshadow the merit of innovative design. To create a more equitable environment, fashion schools must reevaluate their curriculum and support systems, ensuring that all students have fair access to the resources they need to bring their designs to life without needing to rely on external support.
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Not too familiar with the curriculum of fashion school, but students being allowed to have a professional sew/construct their projects is INSANE. Could you imagine if a student from another discipline had someone write their papers on their behalf? It does happens sometimes, but it's called cheating. That sort of policy is just another mechanism promoting nepotism!
I mean it's (a) something that will happen if they make it in the industry since their shit will be sewn by someone else (b) you can't ban this because you have no way of proving that someone did sew this or not unless you confine the students and make them sew on campus. that is not very sustainable of course. Ultimately the idea is that work of merit will make itself known so stuff like this doesn't matter. Jury is out on that of course. But you have to take into account that fashion school is by definition not a place to earn skills that you can then use to make a livable income. It's a luxury and a privilege. And honestly a lot of current crop of designers and popular companies have no formal training.
I want to go in fashion school so bad but most parents think that it’ll never get you anywhere so I just have to learn by my side and act like it’s just a hobby and nothing more even though that’s the only thing I want to do in life
Currently in fashion school...so far I've done Fashion Illustration & Design, and currently taking Industrial Sewing, Basic Sewing and Intro to Adobe Creative Cloud. Also doing a Sound Design course cuz I make music and wanna make films.
I went to a small fashion school and we sewed ALL of our stuff..
At a school like CSM the richer students don't but the less fortunate ones have to which leads to the unfair advantage
@@FashionRoadman How so?? If you want something done right you should/must do it yourself to know the ins and outs of the garment. Those people who don't sew their own garments are at a disadvantage because they know absolutely nothing about construction. When no one is around to sew YOUR garments, what to do? At that point they who don't know how to sew are at a disadvantage. My opinion.
@@joseywales1150 they are at a disadvantage skill wise but it doesn’t matter because that’s not how peoples work is graded
@@FashionRoadman Sorry, so at your school or in your experience skill and construction are not graded, only design is graded?
Maybe you have maybe you haven't talked about your opinion on where fashion for the plebs/little people is going? I am so sure you already know many are busted and disgusted with poorly made and designed clothes. Do you think it will be decentralized back to the home sewer? Sorta like state schooling is going back to homeschooling here in America. There have been many "sew your own clothes" channels popping up. Do you think we are going around in a big circle back to people making their own clothes.
Sewing did essentially start in the home. Women will always want something new. The question is going forward who will sew it?? Last question do you think fashion for the little people will go utilitarian going forward?? Thank you in advance for your thoughts on this topic. Nice voice btw deep and very masculine.
I cover lots of student collections, and im always impressed how well rounded in design, textiles, creativity, sewing, etc Aalto is., its dramatically cheaper than CSM, but CSM opens more doors.
Fashion School is good if your last name is Beckham or Mc Cartney, otherwise it's not gonna work...
Stella and Victoria managed to get commission for everything from Adidas, to the Olympic games uniforms, they are sooooo talented.
For the first question, I think it depends on the school. I went to MMU, where we had to create our own patterns and sew our designs ourselves because the design and technical sides were separated into different modules and taught by different tutors. Also, when I was studying Arts Management, I had a friend who basically paid people to do her essays when she ran out of time. This isn't a new thing. Yes, she had money, and her dad owned an art gallery back in her country.
I agree, for example i'm aware that in schools like Bunka in Japan there is a strong focus on tangible design skills like pattern making and sewing machinist skills. At CSM it's quite limited because more time is split between learning technical skills and honing in a concrete creative identity and vision.
Yess I can relate to this, I went to fashion school in Paris and you weren't allowed to ask someone else to make your patterns/ sew your designs otherwise you'd fail the course- we didn't have technicians either. So I think it does depend on the school. But the one thing UK fashion schools seem to be good at teaching is CAD skills which is something I didn't get as much of.
I am a fashion business management student at FIT and as far as I know the design students are not allowed to outsource their work. I know the students in the mfa show do the work themselves.
Interesting! At CSM many designers outsourced their work. Maybe they aren't officially allowed but people just do it anyway.
is conde nast good for fashion communication & journalism? its been my dream for a while i recently spoke to a professor who said a uni like central saint martins is beneficial too
Do you think.that CSM is over rated
It depends, you get more opportunities and exposure compared to almost any other fashion school and strong industry links. You just won't be as technically sound as students that go to a lot of other schools but you'll be more creative in a sense.
How do they have the money for this
Rich parents.
Does anyone think it’s worth taking Fashion Communication at CSM?
It really depends tbh - what are you trying to achieve by going?
it's basically Harvard of fashion schools, so you don't lose anything if you can afford to attend it/get scholarship (not sure if they exist). If you do get in. A BIG IF.
@@FashionRoadman i’m really going to school for communication because i find that going to school works better for me than entering fashion on my own, plus there seems to be more of a possibility to find connections with the resources csm provides.