SWTOR's PvP problem, how to fix it. Broadsword, please.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
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All I want is a solo queue 8vs8. No premades.
Nice to hear from you after so long. That 8-ish man premades are something hellish :(.
I wish devs paid some attention to pvp every now and then.
Couldn't agree more
SWTOR needs to reintroduce some form of competitive playlist for PvP in order to earn rewards for hardcore PvP players, and to give lower skilled players an actual chance to have fun in non-competitive playlists and not get immediately destroyed by good players, because good players will want to be getting the rewards from competitive
Man it’s the feel of it for me. Feels so clunky with the piss poor animations and low fps in warzones it’s such a shame because I want to like the game so bad 😅
This was my first venture into pvp in this season. And seeing the updates for next season doesn't make me want to continue. I had a lot of fun in this season, but seeing them directly LYING about "shortening the grind" while clearly extending it through more points per level and five extra levels of rewards as FREAKING MEDPACKS?!?! I actually cannot believe they are just giving people the middle finger like that. I totally get why the pvp community is not in a good place. The negativity and bad vibes... with this shit happening every single update it's no wonder the game mode is declining. If they increased the points per week or maybe added GSF into the objectives for some variation, then I might be back for next season. But I won't be able to handle grinding for even longer now with just warzones and toxic as f*ck arenas.... no way
Seems to me that Broadsword actions point to SWTOR PvP being placed in maintenance mode. Of course the devs don't announce when game modes are placed into maintenance mode, see Galactic Starfighter (mm since 2017) and space-on-rails missions (mm since 2013?).
Gearing (too many item ratings), that implant weekly, and augments are definitely factors for me. Most rewards for seasons not even being in collections is another.
I' m solo queueing. Server:DM. Played from the beginnings of the game, paused for 4 years, came back. I' ve leveled almost every class. Some classes are in a not so "healthy" condition other "overperform". That said, I m playing all of them and thus experiencing enough variety gamewise and less frustration all in all..(my opinions as a casual gamer that is)...well, yes, getting steamrolled in 2 of 10 matches. In 8 of 10 I m having quiet good pvp-action. I still like to log in and play some matches in a still very good pvp-game (and yes, a game maybe not as skill-demanding as in past times)...queueing times vary between 1 to 15 mins. Depending on the daytime
I think a solo/duo q rated warzones is the way to go similar to what you mentioned WoW is doing with RBG's in the next expansion. I just don't see them going back to 4's ranked at this point. I think they should put their resources into the types of modes that will reach the most amount of players and I think 8v8 is the most approachable. I also think objective game modes are just more interesting imo.
Yeah, anything is better than nothing. I'd love a 6v6 tdm.
Man, I miss the old ranked pvp. We used to grind the hell out of it till biofail removed it - as a result we all pretty much quit because it got so boring
Broadsword dont care, buy more cosmetics for your Space Barbie, that's all they want
I dunno, my $4k computer has 10-30 fps in warzone, I don't see the point. Fix all those problems and it wouldnt change anything rly.
he's focusing on "fixable" problems bad fps can't be fixed it's an engine issue and it will be way to expensive and time consumming for the actual team to change the whole engine. I've got 30-40 fps on a 1k laptop stop overexaggerate the fps issue yes it's annoying but it doesn't make the game unplayable at all.
You should let it go. Devs weren't caring about 7.0 feedbacks at the time why would they now. As long as cartel market is making enough profit they wont bother to release or fix content because they don't have to. The players that are making this game profitable doesn't care about pvp or high end pve.
But about rated BGs I think they wouldn't work looking at the game current state. Even with a cross server queue I don't think the MMR could ever be good in a 16 players gamemode. But I like the idea of a new form of ranked, maybe a smaller one like 3v3 or 2v2s like wow for exemple however they should be really rigorous wih class balancing to make things work wich I don't think they can.
This is another problem with the current team, I don't think they even have the competence or the knowledge to sustain a competitive gamemode anymore
they are pretty much lost when it comes to technical game mecanics and the overall balancing is shit I mean even in PvE 344 is way overgeared for a lot of nim content.
Given that they actually removed half of the defensive CD in 7.0 because players were "too strong" for the content, very ironic.
Another fix for wich apply for PvP and the overall game it's how they reward content. Today they're nothing wich makes you want to tryhard the games asides from some old pve title and achivements. The Galactic season and PvP season are a plague for the game. Being rewarded for only playing the game should be a thing or at least it shouldn't be the main things. And overall even these rewards are terrible when was the last time we got a decent armor or mount that wasn't a cartel market one ???
Even though I greatly admire your tenacity and your interest in the game and its issues, I believe it's mostly a source of disappointment and frustration to still hope that they will one day fix things or at least try to.
They listened on some very minor things over the years. I remember explaining why enet would go through conc roll and next week it was fixed. Lot of silly things really, there's more things like that and they're all damage type mismatches. Some don't go through accuracy roll or don't have resistance added to that type of damage. So essentially, they had no chance to resist that type. Carb and shroud have same interaction etc. It sucks.
6.0 was awful, nearly all was ignored. 7.0 we had some push back on few classes (meta now) and they still went hard on others making them kind of useless compared to before.
Idk I enjoy pvp still but if they refuse to do anything it is 100 percent time to move on.
@@CeaseFaith Yeah carb as no actual damage type that's why shroud don't work it's the same with roll/maddash merc kb as the same issue it goes through shroud.
About feedback what's really comes to minde for its it's the UI revamp and combat styles feedback when 7.0 was still on the PTS. A huge majority of players (almost all feedback actually) were saying that's the UI was very bad (ugly, too big, not efficient...) they didn't change the UI for the launch of 7.0 .
Same for comat styles, I remember the state of sniper at the beginning of 7.0 it was horrible but they ignored every feedbacks about it.
Another funny fact is when they banned everyone talking about R4 NiM in their last livestream when R4 NiM is a legitimate claim from the endgame community. Even if they explained that R4 NiM hasn't on their plans it feels like discussing endgame is taboo for them. It's a bit an "ignore them and they'll stop to exist" vibe from Bioware/Broadsword when it comes to endgame players.
In my opinion, the direction they've taken is obvious then want to focus only on cartel market and ignore all form of endgame. The game is simply a showcase to sell their cosmetic.
@@Koppa_Cabana Do you guys have a clip of these shroud interactions occurring? Or any of the similar interactions you're talking about here? I've been testing them myself, and they seem to 100% have damage types and shroud works against them fine. I haven't seen any of these issues you've been mentioning. yellow damage, knockback, and stuns all get resisted by shroud from what i've seen and tested.
It doesn't work every time but I have been carbed thru shroud. Whether that's by neural surge from vanguard or carbonize from pt. Or shroud on sin or shadow cuz it does matter.
damn i never knew there was ranked 8v8 in this game. That sounds like it would be so fun. I wish more people played this game because the pvp in this game is soo good.
I think having a duelling area on the fleet would be fantastic. Or make it so you're able to duel on the fleet. That, alongside like that of a solo q of 8v8 or where its only dps in Q would greatly help the games PvP.
Gw2 has place kind of like this, same with ff, they're both good ideas IMO. It would be nice if cross server came and PvP between eu & na was hosted where ever the PTS 6.0 server was. Would definitely spice it up and add more to the player pool.
@@CeaseFaith I’m sad SWTOR doesn’t have 1v1 dueling or the like.
I camped my ass on dueling servers a lot in GW2 and the community of duelist were great back then.
Since the game was sold off -- and since BW never really wanted to compete with Warcraft, that's why we're at where we're at.
I like the mercy rule idea. I’m also not subbed anymore. Not just because of pvp but also broadly the lack of content or change in game. The lack of population has me sitting waiting ages for anything to pop (while in q for everything) and the first thing that pops is a vet flashpoint, but at that point I’ve been waiting for so long I’m desperate for something to do.
Yeah, it's not great.
If they announced 4man limit, I would resub from that alone.
Throw in anything else that'd be suggested or interesting for pvp I feel a lot would come back at least casually that liked wzs.
@@CeaseFaith Is GSF on the pvp seasons track yet? I think I waited an hour for a GSF game a few weeks ago. I logged off because I wasn't getting a pop and this is what led to me cancelling my sub.
I doubt it is, but I have no idea. I dont actually do that content, lol. I just pvp to pvp. That's my reward system tbh. Part of why I've lasted so long and why I'm not really playing. Pvp has become a hiding fest if the match feels unfair for them or a conquest stealth spam fest. When it comes to premades, they just try to stack more players or avoid each other completely.
@@CeaseFaith Brother any content I would do if it popped. xD unfortunately the only thing that pops is people wanting to do spammer station in vet and I would rather cut my ear off than do that thing again.
@sdpearshaped831 Yeah, I am not fond of the other content that much. The community tied to most of it, too. The players really spoil everything sometimes. I know there's a lot of good, but it's not worth the overwhelming negativity from some of the activities, including pvp. But I chose not to socialize because of it.
PvP? I want the PvE fixed.
Fucking nobody wants to do The Foundry anymore :/
Pvp needs less work and doesn't really require new content to be fixed. Pvps always been neglected. Pvps just been in a worse state since 7.0
What about different ability effects between pve and pvp? ;/
Going into systematic changes that revolve around balance when they won't even do the most simple of things is a bit overkill.
Even when the 8v8s are balanced and producing competitive games, the gameplay quality is so bad with lag and desynch that I always just go to wow lol. Even with vulkan and other stuff I can't get the game to run decently when there are 500 sorcs blasting the melee clump
Why not nerf the damage instead of buffing healers?
It's more of an aoe issue. Nerfing damage hurts pve. Non-starter nearly just from that. But hypothetically, if they tried it, they'd need to attack tacticals, set bonuses, and broken passives.
Which is way more work.
Healing is in its weakest state ever and generally would take less work pve wise to rebalance and slow down the pace of the game with healers in pvp. But maintain same ttk / burst windows if they're not getting constant attention.
Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I'll give my opinion. Used to be pvp more complicated back in those days that it than now, on paper - but from this was and the pleasure of the game ... you could go 1vs1 with the "weak class" at the expense of a cool gear not just endure in 1 in 1, and even play 2 against 1, thereby you did overcome weakness of the class with strong gear AND your skills, thereby creating a REAL Balance that you FEEL AND SEE IN PRACTICE .
And now - all simplified, on paper, but made more complicated in practice. I'll explain - now, even taking a top 336 gear (or 344 - no difference, do not take into account 1-2% dps, who the fuck cares if Gay(guy) running with what? lol, right. With Fury or vice versa lol- it’s a joke, I meant OP class and OP Spec in example), with gold augments, you can take out in equal conditions 336 gear with purple augments some class that is known to be better than yours, and at the same time you ass torn collecting gold augments and gear, grinding all gear and shit, slowly ageing and your hairs turns into white, eyes go yellow and ..ok ok lol.
in a fair fight just lost the fight because that class was better. They stupidly killed the balance, there is nothing you can do to minimize the disadvantages of your class, some "your" ONLY skills are not enough to remain competent and competitive with others, as these fuckers (developers) will not understand this. They even removed Essential Defense Abilites from all classes! How is this possible?? That’s what they called balance ??? There is no balance, no fun, when you are "tunneled" by more than two, whatever class you have, it's fucked up. I'm not even talking about premades, matchmaking and other stupidity.
Too bad, I remember swtor and its golden era ... when it was: recruit gear/battlemaster/war hero/elite war hero/ or 4.0/5.0 when there were already only 2 gears instead of 5 tiers of pvp and pve gears, but still had balance ..... I miss those times. I don't play anymore. Every time I go to pvp now - I get a portion of anger. It’s horrible, man.
I’m like Arthur Morgan at the top of the Mountain, looking at passing swtor era and my time in this game … and saying: I gave you all I had ….
Jesus. But, funny thing. When I decided to get a break from swtor, I start to play RDR 2. This masterpiece took me best months of my life, like SwTor back in day, playing this. Only one thing always brightens my mood and bring back happiness, other … frustrating gone, only sadness stays. World is full of joy, I decided to quit, and stayed loyal to what matters the most - happiness. And I remember cool quote from Hosea: “J: - People don’t forget. Hosea: I disagree. More gets forgotten, than remembered.” . 😊 Good times ….. thank you, SWTOR. For everything. And you, Cease, it’s very strong of you to play still swtor and sharing your thoughts, it’s interesting and I support your thoughts fully. Take care buddy!
P.S sorry for the grammar mistakes, not my first language.
Yeah, the simplification is honestly killing the game ever since 3.0.
It's gone too far at this point, catering to casuals removing all depth that made the appeal of the game as an MMORPG, now it's just a shell of what it used to be, while also being too complicated for casuals leaving nobody happy. :\
Most of combat is just dps better. lol.
Play galaxies get an iso
I miss the days of ranked pvp, me and the boys (Villians and Rogues) just quit the game because of that. Even with the hand over i dont feel like returning to swtor i wont lie
Wait does this game still exist
Yes. For the foreseeable future, though it may hit maintenance mode in a year or more.
141 days of your life. that's damn sad.
Over 11 years, ye, I suppose. But I'm certain most have watched TV etc way more. I dont watch / didn't grow up watching TV. But that's normalized. Why wouldn't this be any different? Lol.
@@CeaseFaith i get it. this wasn't a personal attack at all. i have over 166 days in the game in total. maybe i should take a break lol.
@@CeaseFaith i just imagined looking back at my life when i'm like 70. knowing i wasted so much time in some game. while some people made billions i was just playing swtor. not a good feeling, sir.
@bunexmr, everyone wastes time and has regrets. This is a hobby for me and something I am passionate about. Not everyone can make billions, so I don't think anyone should regret their time. I met some amazing people in swtor. One even happens to be my roommate to this day. It's crazy to think. They haven't played in quite a while.
Sure, that won't be the case for everyone, but something like this exists for everyone I feel.
Not to be cynical, but there are tons of little things we do that waste a lot of time. Social media, tiktok, youtube, etc. Play full on time management of every minute of your day, and you'll really notice. It's quite impossible to avoid, and frankly, I don't even keep track of the date, let alone day because of it. I dont have any particular regrets other than not believing in myself sooner.