Predicting the Green Bay Packers 2024 Win Total | PFF
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- PFF's Sam Monson and Steve Palazzolo give their thoughts on whether the Packers will go over or under their projected win total for the 2024 NFL season.
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I really really don’t think yall understand how big a deal the new DC is. If I saw Preston Smith in pass coverage one more time I was going to fucking end it
Hahaha no kidding. Good call.
You have no idea how much I felt this😂
RIP Preston Island. Blud held his own against Jefferson, Chase, and Adams.
Watch the Boston college tape. Preston and Kenny Clark will be dropping into coverage at least once a game
I think the defense will be kinda shaky for the first month due to the transition to a new scheme, but also fitting in the pieces.
I think it the betting line, I’d bet on the over 9.5 wins. 11-12 wins would be my bet.
I have Packers at 11 wins. The first half of the season last year was absolutely the youth learning curve and then figuring out playmakers. Through week 5 they led the league in drops and they didn’t even feature Wicks until then also. And Mayfield is who he is, we’ve seen the sample size.
"Runs like that happen" No, he had numbers like about 5 other guys in the history of the NFL. All guys who are or will be in the HoF. You guys are ridiculous haters.
You guys really have a poor eye for football. Its a team game. Love struggled in the first half of the season because 1. The offensive line was absolutely garbage and they were still moving guys around 2. Aaron Jones got hurt and AJ Dillon was one of the worst backs in the NFL (read: teams got to sit on the pass) 3. The offense had a few rookies starting. Love is making the throws you want to see. Baker never made the tough throws. Tlaw doesn't make the tough throws. All of the fundamentals are there with Love. Barring some insane injury bug, the Packers are a 11-12 win team.
Baker Mayfield never looked like Love
Yeah, Mayfield never inhered a team with that had an established offense scheme under the same coach for 5 years.
@@Fortune_88862 Rodgers ran the offense so last year was lafleurs first real season as the play caller. You must be a bears fan lmao dumb $@/)
@@Fortune_88862 How many Packers were there 5 years ago?
@@robshell5367 "scheme under the same coach for 5 years" every Packer there was drafted to fit scheme.
That what I said.
So hard for them to buy in because it cheapens their pff product since so many of the packers draft picks were slammed by pff immediately after the draft - including Love
Dude you are bugging we almost beat the 49ers. They barely survived.
This Packers team looks to build off an impressive 2023 season with continued development from their young players and a new DC to lead a defense that underachieved. The roster remains nearly identical other than purposeful changes at OL, S, LB and RB.
That's not an exaggeration. Other than those 4 positions the rest of the roster moves are so minor that the only ones with a realistic chance of landing a 53 man roster spot consist of 7th round picks, veteran minimum type signings and UDFAs used to add competition at kicker/LS/backup QB and CB depth (Kalen King) while the only other departure was TE Josiah Deguara in free agency but Tyler Davis returns from injury to fill his spot.
you guys are sleeping on us yet again. We will come back to this when we win 13-14 games and end up winning the super bowl keep sleeping on us though it motivates us.
I think we can win it this year but it's a new defense and jordan loves second year. I think it's gonna take time early to get it all together so I wouldent be suprised if we scrape by into the playoffs. It's a really hard schedule aswell
13 to 14 wins? I have the over but that's a ludicrous prediction.
The last 2 times the Packers have won the Superbowl, it was 14 years apart. This year is 14 years, from the last Superbowl 😉
Hopefully the actually try vs the a$$ teams this year. They bring their A game vs the elite teams and dominate them easily but vs the A$$ team they don't take those teams seriously then get embarrassed sometimes.
Hopefully the actually try vs the a$$ teams this year. They bring their A game vs the elite teams and dominate them easily but vs the A$$ team they don't take those teams seriously then get embarrassed sometimes.
10-7 The low 12-5 The high
Averages out to 11-6, which is where I have them.
This is such a stupid take Sam. First off, they have veterens all over the field. Kenny Clark, Jaire, Rashan, McKinney, Jacobs, Jenkins, and more. They draft 21 year olds so they are 27 years old vets. Guys will take a second year jump. The offense will be better and the defense will be dominant. 12 wins minimum.
I think that’s too optimistic. Packers are good, not great and love is a wild card. He’s too inconsistent
@@JefferyT1991 His second half of the season had a stretch that only a few QBs in the history of the NFL have matched. And not scrubs, HoF or future HoF players. It wasn't a fluke and it wasn't inconsistent when the WRs and TEs figured out where the F they were supposed to be. It was historic and him regressing would be the outlier.
@@JefferyT1991his second half of the year was mvp caliber. He finished the year 7th in yards and 2nd in TDs which shows how great that 2nd half was after a really bad first half
10-7 or 11-6. Massive pack fan here but there will still be some kinks to figure out and I foresee us dropping a few games that make no sense to drop. I hope this team is the opposite of the Rodgers era- good regular season and great post season play. Go pack go
IMO We've had the perfect players for years to play this defense but the DC and the GM didn't see eye to eye. I think this season will be different
13+ wins. It wouldnt be PFF if they werent underselling the Pack.
That’s overselling, I see them realistically around 9-10 wins
@@beannibba You should work for PFF
Pff is underselling, but you can’t do the 13+ and not come off as a homer doing the oversell. 13+ means you’re the best team in the NFL in the regular season and you get a record that’s very hard to do. 11 is probably the realistic outcome
@@Matt-yq3gq normally id agree, but everything is aligned for this team on both sides of the ball. Not to mention, the 17 game schedule makes 13 wins more attainable than it was with the old 16 game schedule.
@@williamhermann6635 regardless of how optimistic you are on them 13+ very hard to do and it’s the high end of everything breaking right for the packers which means it’s a homer take. There’s a range for the packers and 13 isn’t the floor or the realistic total. Gotta see proof of concept that the D is gonna be good. The whole DC change and player excitement is a narrative as old as time in GB when they’ve changed coordinators the last 30 years, gotta see proof . Same thing with special teams and it’s even no sure thing the offense is gonna just cook like it did for most of the 2nd half last year. For as good as love and the packers O we’re down the stretch, there was still the TB, NYG, and SF games. More likely than not, those types of performances where the team doesn’t hit its potential happens a handful of times. The D and O still hit their growing pains and the schedule isn’t the easiest thing in the world on paper.
I am sorry but I see this team as a very brash bunch! More than you can imagine! Packers go with 16 wins this year and shock the league! The offense will have a chip on their shoulders! AND REMEMBER the overwhelming defense of the Bears of 85 … The defense will be competing to outshine the offense. Watch out for this bunch! Your warned!
I laugh at all this. The guy on the right “feels” a lot lol.
He’s a Viking fan
This coming season, Jordan Love and the Packers will win the NFC North with a perfect 17-0 record, beat the wild card Lions in the NFC Divisional Round, beat the defending NFC champ 49ers in the NFC Title Game, and beat Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins in Super Bowl LIX to complete a perfect 20-0 season and bring the Lombardi Trophy back to Titletown.
12-5
what about weeks 1 - 3. Love came out cooking against the bears in week 1. and had a come from behind win against the saints, scored like 20 points in 8 minutes. also, the packers co trolled that whole game against the 49ers.. until the last few minutes and we lost because of a missed kick by anders carlson
9 wins is perfect
Trevor Lawrence did not look like Love did the second half of 2022.
Please……packers are going to win win win gonna be a great season. It’ll be highlights galore. Look out nfc. Look out afc. Go pack go.
Feel like you guys are dismissing the “little run” love had. During the stretch he went 21 TDs to 1 INT. That’s not just really good, that’s incredible. I’d love to see a list of QBs who have matched a stretch like that in nfl history. Probably like 10-15 people
The list is like 4 guys and they are all in or will be in the Hall of Fame.
Against the panthers bears and chargers wow super difficult teams 😭😭💀
you guys are bomb. Great analysis as normal. All i'll ask is to grade Kenny Clark as he should be graded lol. J/K boys!! thanks again. Go Pack Go
fudge pack, prison style
Baker never looked like Love!!!
They are going to the SB aren't they
That second half, the Packers had no youths….with maybe the exception of the kicker.
boo the long snapper
@@bizzycrack good point
The Encore of Jordan Love will be ELITE this upcoming season! 💯💯
u can hope in one hand, shit in the other, to test which fills up faster
I hope the Packers hire Matt Patricia so he can poison that franchise, too.
Butt hurt Packer fans are thick around here. You do deserve a break. After all, it is pride month.
I believe The Packers will go 10-7 and they get another wildcard playoff spot they’re gonna fight with Detroit for the division, but I think Detroit got a little better in the Draft
we are not worried about nobody in the north trust we want san fran fr
@@romellehoward9730 Yall should be worried about Detroit lol
@@flyguy7825 Hell nah
@@flyguy7825They blew Detroit out of the universe on prime time Thanksgiving day and Dan Campbell is an absolute liability.
Detroit drafted 2 slow corners. They got worse.
Dude had like 21 tds and 2 or 3 turnovers in the last 10 games…
Opponents were not scary
@@Kenny49ERS well your team lost to one of them when it mattered the most so.
@@stanshaud6168 yes, we lost our RG and our starting LB. A punt also went off a rookies foot. The outcome of a game has very little to do with which team is better. Also, how is anyone ever supposed to fairly beat the Chiefs in a Super Bowl when they haven’t had a holding call in a Super Bowl in three years… while being the most penalized for holding last regular season… 🥸
@@Kenny49ERS excuses bruh. Yall were a bad spot on a 4th down, and a dropped 4th quarter TD away from not even getting there in the first place.
@@stanshaud6168 you weren’t there at all, and as long as we’re here, you’ll never see a SB
8 wins max. Bookmark it and take it to the bank. Come on back. By week 7 Packers fans will be realizing it too
Ironic lol
So you think they won't develop and will get worse. It was all just luck?
I’ll be back bum
@@asteiner274 He's a Bears fan, he doesn't think. Hahahahahaha!
@@asteiner274 uh... Every year they do analysis on which team was the "luckiest" with things going in their favor out of their control. The Packers accounted for 2+ wins over the 17 game season and #1 in the NFL.
Add that to Jordan Love leading the entire league in turning the ball over 7 times on potential game winning drives and them being 9-7.
Then take into consideration they had one of the worst drafts in the entire league and don't have anything special, a mediocre team with a bottom 10 QB.
Yes... The Packers will max out at 8 wins when other teams such as the Lions and Bears significantly improved and will dominate them.
It's cute that you think the Packers will "automatically" improve as if every team gets better every year 🤣 For every team that improves, one gets worse and the Packers are absolute gutter trash in 2024. (They will be for the next five years+ after signing one of the worst QB's in the league to an extension that will deteriorate the team)
The part that makes me believe Love's 2nd half will be repeated is the degree of difficulty of the throws he was making. Lots of qbs can put up great numbers on a great team/system but he was doing everything with an extremely young group that has yet to reach their potential.
Opponents were weak ish
@@Kenny49ERS Did you not see them demolish the Cowboys? Handle the Lions? Beat the Super Bowl champs? Barely knocked out by the Super Bowl runner up? They proved they could hang with the best teams last year.
I don't care what happened the first 8 weeks, we saw them develop consistently throughout the season.
@@asteiner274 lions were bad imo… Speaking of cake schedules. Dallas can’t beat any good teams, just beat up on the really bad ones. Only reason the Packers Niners playoff game was close was because the Niners had three weeks off before the playoffs.
@@Kenny49ERSso you just gonna skip past beating the chiefs in primetime while thoroughly outplaying Mahomes
@@asteiner274 we broke the Cowboys for you
The superbowl colors that came out are green and red. Packers /chiefs superbowl. 😊
Now I agree, Love still has some questions to answer but can we not just assume that qb outings like baker is all because of a skill issue. Theres way too many cases where teams do not support their players and give them the everyday confidence they need. Theres a reason why they say the game is 25% physical and 75% mental. If your team doesn't support you why would you give your all to them. Baker got traded from the browns because they needed a scapegoat. In Carolina he was in a qb carousel and wanted out becasue the team just sucks. In La he finally got a chance to play meaningfull football for the first time since that playoff run. He played really solid on short notice and earned himself the starting spot in Tampa where he then took them to the playoffs simply off the fact that they didn't just give up on him. The packers energy and confidence alone will win them games.
Once again this team continues to be disrespected. Nothing new for the Packers.
But that's a positive because this team has ALWAYS excelled when they were underestimated!
It's when they've been favored & expected to win they have been miserable failures.
Two Hall of Fame QBs for 30 years plus but only 2 Superbowl victories to show for it.
Jordan Love proved last season when he protects the ball he is an absolute baller.
With the master Tom Clements returning to coach him another season things look bright!
Can he turn Jordan Love into another great ball control QB as he did with Aaron Rodgers?
Remember he helped Brett Favre decrease his interceptions & become a HOF QB!
Kyler Murray the other young QB he mentored has turned into a decent QB for a midget!
First half of the 2023 season when Jordan was throwing interceptions he struggled greatly.
Down the stretch in the last 9 games he had 18 tds with only 1 interception & balled!
If Love can continue to protect the ball this team will be a serious Superball contender.
Next step in Love's progression now is to prove he can play in the clutch when it counts most!
He chocked late in games throwing interceptions when he needed a TD to win those games.
He did that also at the end of the San Francisco game as well. A team GB should have beaten.
Had Matt run the ball with Jones instead of throwing 6 incompletions on 1st downs 1st half.
Had he done so they'd beaten the Lions & KC for the second time last season to win the SB!
Let's just hope Matt has learned to lean into his run game & will run on 1st downs this year.
The Packers struggled start of last season winning the time of possession battle each game.
Matt is a offensive passing guru for certain but I sure wish he'd lean in his run game more!
Matt needs to do a much better job of controlling the clock & winning the time of possession.
This team made all the right moves during this off season. Kudos to Gutekunst & his staff!
They added & signed two premium big money free agents in Xavier McKinney & Josh Jacobs.
Gutekunst looks like he had another excellent draft grabbing some big names again in 2024.
He certainly looks like he hit it out of the park on day two grabbing Cooper, Bullard & Lloyd!
If this draft class is as good as last two were this team should absolutely excel this season.
They also let the underachievers walk (Darnell Savage, Josiah Deguara & Jon Runyan Jr).
Mr. Royce Newman your next! Time to cut this stiff which will gain GB 3.1 million vs the cap!
Stokes & Myers better excel this season or they also should be cut loose end of this season.
Next draft should be about replacing Kenny Clark & Preston Smith. Two Packer greats.
But both are aging & their games deteriorating. Those contracts are just too expensive now.
Youth makes more sense now so I would assume this is on Gutekunst's radar in 2025 draft.
This offense should be an absolute juggernaut this season. Improving with experience.
The backfield & strong running game can only compliment that deep WR/TE core they have.
If they can add 2 solid O line players with Elgton Jenkins & Zach Tom it can be elite again.
GB's offense is as potent as any team in this league bar none! No defense that scares me.
It's the addition of the new defensive coaches, a new defensive philosophy & scheme is key.
GB injected majority of it's draft capital into it's defense & O line where it was needed most.
I'm a very excited to see them pick up E Cooper a bonified run stuffing specialist in the draft.
Top ILB in this draft! With an improved back end should be able continue to focus on the run.
The Packers must prove this season they can finally stop the run game vs any team they play.
4 games last season vs run teams - ATL, PITT, DET, NYG all of whom went 200+ on ground!
This team needs a top 10 defense if they want to compete for the Superbowl this season.
That new backend looks to have the potential to be a top 5 secondary provided Jaire is back.
Alexander needs to earn that big fat paycheck after 2 injury riddled seasons & subpar play.
This unit needs to get turnovers. Something GB have always been leaders at in this league.
Past couple of seasons GB have struggled winning the turnover battle. That needs to change.
It's time for Rich Bisaccia to prove his worth! Packers special teams must excel this year.
With the return of Tyler Davis the Packers best special teams player two season ago.
Plus the addition of strong teams specialist in the draft & also resigning of most key teamers.
He has disputably the best returner in the NFL in Keisean Nixon new kick rules should help.
It's time for this unit to be among the league leaders & not underachieve once again!
Anders Carlson must improve in year two with more consistency in his kicking game.
Remember he was perfect thru first 7 games last season before struggling rest of the year.
This team should end up in the NFC championship game if they play to their potential.
Where they will likely face the SF 49ers their kryptonite! That needs to change in 2024-25!
Go Pack Go!
A British Football (Sigh Soccer) talking head, very well respected former Player commenting on a certain team after a ropey game, stil won, but yeah lucky. @You'll never win anything with kids' was his erudite comment. The Team: Manchester United, the Players: Now I know most of you won't have a clue lol. but Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, The Neville Brothers Yeah that team, they went and won the whole thing and carried of for about 10 years give or take a season
I understand it's in the nature of fandom to take third party opinions that are sober but optimistic as negative, but the comments here are hilarious. Fans expecting the second half of the season to be the standard going forward with no bumps like we experienced in the first half are very likely in for some disappointment and consternation as growing pains continue to happen.
It's not impossible that some of these rookie receivers will have lousy second years. Packer fans know all too well about that--we just saw it last year with Watson, and even in the not-so-distant past people were calling for Davante Adams to be cut after his disastrous sophomore season. The thing is that the Packers had *so many* rookie pass-catchers step up in a big way--Reed, Wicks, Melton, Heath, Musgrave, Kraft. That's practically unheard of for a rookie class, and it leaves Green Bay in a very enviable situation. They're not *ALL* going to slip up, and odds are very good that at least one will take that next step. Throw Doubs and Watson into the mix (especially if Watson finally gets the hamstring injury bug under control) and the Packer offense is going to be frightening next year, and for quite some time to come.
Exactly. At least one guy is going to take a big second year jump, probalby more than one. The ones who don't can ride the bench.
It all depends on love, he was complete dogshit in the middle of the season
easiest downvote i've ever given. be better fellas.
IMO, everything depends on health and how the defense works! If the defense is as simplified as it sounds then Green Bay is likely going to the Super Bowl. Might sound crazy but I have watched Green Bay play my whole life which is from Lynn Dickey on and defense or the lack there of has been our down fall each and every season. Also the simplicity side of the equation is because when a defense knows exactly what their role is and plays with their hair on fire they are Always the best defenses! Look at San Fran or Ravens or the old Seahawk defense, those defenses were not fancy but extremely Fast and Sound! Hafley from interviews with Sherman and other defenders sounds like the perfect hire for Green Bay!
Common, the Offense, that's going to be lights out, who the H do you cover? How can you match up and then what happens in the running game when the running back behind center has been running against the 2nd most stacked defenses with only Derrick Henry getting more attention?
Don't stack the box, we're going to run it down your throat, stack the box and we're going to stretch the field! Try to play zone and we'll find the hole and march down the field all game long!
Packers are poised to win it all and I've seen a lot of great Packer teams but this team is special!
Green Bay Packers will be 9-8.
he gunna revert back to the first half of the season from last year
Love is getting all that hype.
All i see is a taller Tua Tagovailoa in another Shanahan ex-assist offense making players looking like MVPs.
If you search for the chart that shows accuracy to what percentage the receivers are wide open he is around the same as Purdy & Tua in the same system.
But they are system QBS and Love is star lol okay.
Cry more keep hating
@@Gloo-packk System QB is hating lol okay