The PowerBook G3 Pismo: Exploring a Truly Classic Mac Laptop Inside and Out

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  • @CassandraCarter
    @CassandraCarter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still have my Pismo, tons and tons of miles on it. Absolutely love it, it's a completely unstoppable machine. The optical drive still works. Only thing that's bad on it is the battery.

    • @uncledaddy4625
      @uncledaddy4625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m still using the Pismo that I bought back in 2000. Mainly I use it for nostalgia reasons and the odd game. The browser can’t access modern websites but for word processing/spreadsheets and games, it works fine. Shame that the battery died years ago!

  • @mcmh9523
    @mcmh9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    PowerBook G3
    -Looks like it's gonna fall apart any minute
    -Built like a tank
    PowerBook G4 Titanium
    -Looks like it's gonna conquer the world
    -Will fall apart right at the worst moment possible

    • @flaggerify
      @flaggerify 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      TiBook's hinges were crap.

    • @mcmh9523
      @mcmh9523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@flaggerify So true

    • @theEDMdragon
      @theEDMdragon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really unfortunate, they were such cool looking machines

  • @bramvandenbroeck5060
    @bramvandenbroeck5060 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a Pismo with the 500Mhz cpu option, a 120gb hdd and a dvd rewriter, my pismo is in good condition, except for the port door, the previous owner broke it off, the main battery whas completely dead, but i have solder skills so i replaced all the 9 cells in my battery and i get around 5 hours of mixed use out of it, which is awesome, i use this primarly for music as the dac in this device is awesome, and some old games offcourse, it is still a very usefull machine and i love the design and the apple logo the wrong way around when its open! I bought this pismo about a year ago for 20 euro's and yes, it had a dead pram battery, i replaced the pram battery and the machine is in topcondition now! This is a awesome video and i hope we can keep those old macs going for a very long time to come!

  • @goncalodumas
    @goncalodumas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video, congrats! I don't know about you but as a newcomer to classic Mac OSs, I'm having some trouble getting around this environment. You should make a video on the essentials of Mac OS 9.2 - must-have applications, basic system guided tours, etc. Once again, thanks for this video!

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. The MacOS is defanately somthing I'd like to cover in a bit of a mini seriese at some point. From a quickstrt guide for those that have just got their first machine and want to find out how the UI works and how to put software on it, to others on customization apps, networking, the control panel and system maintenence. Need to get my ideas together for it all :D

  • @MattyStoked
    @MattyStoked 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently subscribed to your channel as Macintosh has always been a blind spot for me. I played some games on friend's machines growing up but have no idea where to start as an adult. Thanks for this video, a G3 looks like a great place for me to start.

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely a solid choice for a first and/or only old Mac, its compatibility is one of the widest :)
      One place to start might be to just browse one of the abandonware sites and select a year that sounds interesting, and just see what titles jump out at you, EG:
      macintoshgarden.org/year/1997?page=77

    • @MattyStoked
      @MattyStoked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YesterYearsMacGames Great reply, thank you! My Mac journey begins :)

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No probs! Start from the last page with the garden, its displays them in order of the date uploaded so the better titles are generally near the back

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent overview of this classic Apple laptop computer. Of all the laptops made by Apple which, I own only this model (the PowerBook G3 Pismo) is the laptop, I call my baby. Almost 20 years old now, I still think it has the best design, styling, and power!
    While, only a collectors item now still enjoy using its two "hot" swapable drive bays for an extra battery, super disk drive, zip drive, and DVD/CD drive. Also, I have fun downloading my digital camera photos using its USB port and movies from my video recorder using its Firewire port. While, at the same time having an apple mouse connected into the other USB port and using an external Hard Drive drive connected to the other Firewire port. When needing to use a Flash Drive, I just remove the mouse and use its USB port. For operating systems, I currently use both the classic OS 9.1 and OS X 10.3.

  • @onigvd77
    @onigvd77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    small correction for anyone watching not knowing better, the X is the Roman numeral for 10, so it should be said as Ten not X, when saying Mac OS X

  • @ryanjnunes
    @ryanjnunes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clicked on this video because I live in Pismo Beach and I just had to know why this laptop is called Pismo. I'm glad I did.

  • @Venatius
    @Venatius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd been thinking about picking up an old Mac some time, but the issue of having a space to keep/use it was a problem. Looks like this takes care of that along with its other ringing endorsements. Thanks!

  • @mikv8
    @mikv8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice channel. Keep up the good work. I see you actually have some of the more interesting Macs from the early 2000s, the TiBook, iBook, AlBook. It would be great if you cover them along with the earlier OSX stuff on your channel. It's a matter of taste of course, but I personally find MacOS Classic and anything pre-G3 from Apple pretty boring. 1999 to 2004 was truly Apple's golden age.

  • @tezz_27_
    @tezz_27_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a cool video would love to see more like it. Especially if you did the 6100

  • @Ventrux
    @Ventrux 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a good trick for this one. If you want to use WiFi without any problem. Find an Airport, and old one, Apple AirPort m 1999, the silver one like an UFO. If you break apart the router inside you are going to find a Silver PCMCIA card with an strange Orinoko (I thing Orinoko, I can't remember right now) chipset which runs perfect without drivers or anything, you can even Hack wifi with that damn card.

  • @anss321
    @anss321 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like an interesting machine. How does older games like Alone in the Dark, Civilization, Dark Forces, Day of the Tentacle, SimCity 2000, Master of Orion 2, and such run on it?
    I've long wanted a Mac just to try out old 68k games. I've considered getting a G4/G3 laptop or Mac Mini before but I have no idea if the games I want to test runs on machines that late. Earlier machines are either too expensive or, from what I heard, in urgent need of having the capacitors replaced.

    • @apexofbeing
      @apexofbeing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So I bought a Pismo after watching this video! CD drive and speakers work perfectly! Set me back about a hundred bucks on ebay for one in such good condition, but well worth it. I haven't tested out any of the games you mentioned yet, but I'll give you some of my impressions. I've run older 90s games like Pathways into Darkness, Journeyman Project and Return to Zork (which was very finnicky till I switched my resolution to 640x480) and they work perfectly! The main niggle you will face is some older games (particularly older shareware games) will demand you run them in 16 colours, which the Pismo does not seem to support. So it's either greyscale or they won't work at all.
      I tried running Oni on it (a 3D game of 2001 vintage) but I feel like it was probably a bit of a long shot. Even though I ran the OpenGL installer, it didn't seem to work and Oni refused to start up. Maybe I'm an idiot and there is a workaround I missed but maybe that's about where the limitations of the Pismo are. I'm going to give Escape from Monkey Island a go later and see if it works though.
      Overall, as long as you can boot into System 9, I would say the Pismo will play most mac games from about 1990-2000 pretty well. Like YYM said, it will probably play some less taxing games of the early OSX era as well. I am going to test out out some of those games you mentioned and report back on them though!

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ones of those that i've played there on it without issue are Sim City 2000, Civ 2 and Orion. I imagine that Day of the Tentical is fine too as Full Throttle works well on it. Alone in the Dark's page on Macintosh Garden states that it needs some help from an extention called 'G3 throttle' which slows down the CPU to avoid a bug with using the stairs.

    • @anss321
      @anss321 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I remember playing Oni on a Voodoo 3, so you may need a graphic card for that game to run well. I don't think laptops of that era had 3D graphics built in yet. Escape should run fine, if I recall correctly, as 3d hardware wasn't required.
      If I'm not mistaken from my earlier research, something like System 7.5 is the ideal for the older Mac games, as some games simply wont run on System 9 regardless of the underlying hardware.

    • @anss321
      @anss321 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice. Civ 2 is a great game, but I never fell in love with it. Civilization 1 OTOH I love, and I've played it on Amiga, DOS and Windows. Each version is different, and I enjoy that, even when the differences are slight.
      I'm not surprised to hear that Alone in the Dark got CPU issues. The game have similar problems on the PC. There's also throttling programs to "fix" issues like them, but I've yet to encounter one that works well. Games get frame pacing issues when you throttle the CPU more than 20-30%, and you typically need to throttle 80-90%. I suspect you get better mileage by disabling all CPU caches, if that's possible to do on a Mac.
      Day of the Tentacle might run fine, but it's one of those games that pushes low level boundaries. It's therefore a good game to check if the system truly is compatible with older Mac hardware or doing some sort of high level emulation. If it runs like a slide show, it's high level emulation at play.

  • @DarkStar3147
    @DarkStar3147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Minute 1:39, what version of OS is it running???

  • @ciencieiii2969
    @ciencieiii2969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pismo is a writing style

  • @daviddadut4620
    @daviddadut4620 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi what type cpu card have a pismo? i have home a pismo my coolection my plan for add a last power pc g3 750fx 900 mhz cpu my pismo or a 500mhz power pc g3 cx 500mhz pismo only normal power pc 750 inside a 500 mhz not cx maybe cx little powerfull

  • @raymondmookhram5127
    @raymondmookhram5127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    PowerBook Pismo and Amiga A1000. The best laptop and the best desktop ever built.

  • @lorumipsum1129
    @lorumipsum1129 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a second...
    This isn’t pismo beach!!!

  • @youtubesucks2112
    @youtubesucks2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I have been trying to download mac os 10.3 for almost a day now and I just don't want to have to buy the OS as a disk. 5/10

  • @Poliwager
    @Poliwager 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice, honest review!
    I will say though, that as a longtime Mac user, it bothered me every time you said "OS Ex" and "pram" instead of "OS 10" and "P-Ram". Good video though, and it's neat to see you use it for lots of different stuff. When I had my Pismo, it was running Tiger just fine, though, the internet back in 2006 was a lot lighter than today's internet. :P

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno if its a Brit thing to smush acronyms like PRAM together together, as I've always said things like SNES as a whole and I've heard others like Ashens do it too, but yea, saying OSX with an X isn't an isolated observation, others have said it grated on them too so its somthing I'll take on board for future content. Cheers!

    • @chinchilla2302
      @chinchilla2302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YesterYear's MacDude It’s definitely called “P-RAM” here too, mate. A “pram” is something you put a baby in.

    • @vaalrus
      @vaalrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bollocks. “zap the pram” was always the order of the day ‘round my way, it was X, never 10. And switching to "Mac OS" instead of “System” was a weird affectation that came in with the advent of clone machines.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was often OS 'ex' here in the States. I usually say "Pee RAM", but can understand the "pram" pronunciation too.

  • @HrutkayMods
    @HrutkayMods 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey nice channel and nice video man! If you ever want/need any help lemme know, because I'd love to help you get some more views and subs! I'll be sharing your channel in my PowerPC Gaming Lounge Facebook group and also in the Low End Mac Facebook group! Also come check out my custom G4 Pismo on my channel. Wish ya continued success!

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks! I noticed a spike in traffic :P
      Enjoyed your Pismo vid, there really is a lot to these machines, I wasn't aware of the other cooling fan... I don't think i'v ever heard it spin up on my one, although that said, its still got the original thermal pad on it which will be thoroughly dysfunctional by now. I've been meaning to sort that out. Do you use standard paste on it since the gap is supposedly a bit bigger between the chip and the sink? I've been playing it safe and using the denser K5 Pro for pad replacement on other machines

  • @turbomustang84
    @turbomustang84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the Pismo is the best design of any laptop ever .
    I used to sell the G4 upgrade for the Pismo....
    Wish I had saved one for me ....
    I love this thing even though my phone has more computing power

  • @cyberdharma1020
    @cyberdharma1020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 500MHz Pismo with 640MB RAM running MacOS 9.2.2 and I absolutely love it! I'd really appreciate and info you have on battery replacement or rebuilding. I saw the one in this video, but you didn't go in to detail. Thanks so much for your great work on these videos!

  • @billchatfield3064
    @billchatfield3064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it looks very elegant. Nice curves.

  • @mr.peterson9575
    @mr.peterson9575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only computer I ever had true affection for. It was the last machine i had running os 9. Hated the G4s and OSX. I just bought one on ebay and installed OS 9 to record music and MIDI with ProTools Free again. I've been using logic on Powerbooks for years, but there's something nice about having my old buddy from when I was 20 in pre-9/11 USA as a dedicated digital 8 track audio recorder. This G3 was last computer that I used as a tool primarily for creative work as opposed to a for web browsing/social media consuming/feed streaming distraction device. It feels substantial. I like the touch of the smooth rubbery top. I'm going to buy a couple more and some new old stock replacement bits. I figure I have 30 or 40 years left on earth at most. These things will totally make it that long.

    • @SpenserKuzub
      @SpenserKuzub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      30 or 40 years left of usage left in them. I agree; they are already 20+ years old and they'll go for another 20 more

  • @Cyber_Horse_Studios87
    @Cyber_Horse_Studios87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty much every PowerBook G3 excluding the Kanga and probably the most robust G3 laptops I’ve ever encountered. With the Pismo being the ultimate G3 PowerBook, the Wallstreet/PDQ being the ultimate classic G3 laptop, the Kanga being an iconic one of a kind G3 model, and then there’s the Lombard that just… was kind of a stop gap more than anything.

  • @CuriVideos
    @CuriVideos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's amazing to see th exact config I had, including that PCMCIA card! Worked till an unfortunate drop in 2007, then I moved on to Titanium G4 model. I remeber recording podcasts on it and using Audcaity to edit audio, back in 2006. Those were the days!

  • @YouWillBe322
    @YouWillBe322 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interestingly, I have the original battery that holds a charge like new, the clock battery is also original and charged, yet the Powerbook still not booting. I think it is due to the firmware I put on 11 years ago 4.1.8 f5, before that 4.1.8 was flashed onto it and worked fine.

  • @MrWolverineDK
    @MrWolverineDK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible/could it be possible to get a pram replacement for the ones that doesn't work ? Even if it is a third party replacement ? Since maybe then you wouldn't need to press the reset button . Or is that too cumbersome ? Anyway I am just thinking, and great channel you have, I really enjoy watching those videos about the old macs and the games :)

    • @minims
      @minims 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it would be possible to solder one yourself. I did one for an IBM thinkpad, because the prices for those batteries were insane on ebay. I looked it up - it was a regular type of battery with some wires and a connector attached to it. I desoldered the wires from the original, soldered them to a new battery and that was it. Paid 2€.

  • @SpenserKuzub
    @SpenserKuzub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IIRC you can upgrade these with SSDs by replacing the HD with some kind of flash card.

  • @thihal123
    @thihal123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had one of those. It was ok.

  • @mtosta2861
    @mtosta2861 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine if you will, a 17” pismo pro with a gpu on daughter card, more ports, etc...

  • @LAHegarty
    @LAHegarty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple of new groups:
    PCC OS X
    facebook.com/groups/1025350951212701
    PCC OS 9
    facebook.com/groups/2752015888365030
    ✌🏽

  • @slomacuser
    @slomacuser 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent review, very nice!

  • @Leva00001
    @Leva00001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Is it possible to install Mac OS 8.6 on it? Some old games (like Panzer General) don't like OS 9 .

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, this ones OS9 only, its predecessor (Lombard) will take 8.6 though

    • @Leva00001
      @Leva00001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YesterYearsMacGames Thank You!

    • @Leva00001
      @Leva00001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here interesting forum thread about some tries to do it: forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-os-8-6-findings-and-ramblings.2021922/

  • @apexofbeing
    @apexofbeing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Pismo after watching this video! It is such a sturdy little machine. Like you said, it is no show, but all go! You mentioned in this video that you record most of your footage from your Pismo. What is your solution for recording the footage?

    • @YesterYearsMacGames
      @YesterYearsMacGames  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice purchase! I've got a capture card slotted into my modern tower so the Pismo can input into it via VGA and treat it like an external monitor. OBS can then record the mirrored screen. Works great for most things, theres a bit of input lag so some fast mouse controlled games that can't mirror sprites are a bit tricky to play well but for 95% of the titles its seamless.

  • @JK-pv2xx
    @JK-pv2xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I still read the web on Netscape in 2021?

  • @momomunsta8887
    @momomunsta8887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can never escape the prequel memes

  • @minims
    @minims 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slightly over a week ago I checked ebay (around europe) and the prices for these were indeed around 30-50€ which is about the same in $. Now, for some reason they skyrocketed to 200€. :(

  • @Fifury161
    @Fifury161 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tidying up last night I rediscovered my Pismo, battery dead and I managed to rip the CD door off (d'oh!). It does have 256MB RAM though, just need to find the charger and power it on once more! Sad to see it's only worth about £50 now. I also have that G4, must dig it out and have a quick run through it!

  • @TransitAndTeslas
    @TransitAndTeslas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a Mac channel and you can’t pronounce OS “ten” properly? Cringe!!!

  • @kingdomculture5743
    @kingdomculture5743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good show!

  • @BocuD
    @BocuD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How has no one commented about the sand quote ffs
    I don't like sand

  • @flaggerify
    @flaggerify 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OS Ten!

  • @rastusbojangles
    @rastusbojangles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The algorithm gods of youtube blessed me today. I hope to see your channel grow.

  • @LAHegarty
    @LAHegarty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the software dock you are using called? 5:35

  • @redriverscout4404
    @redriverscout4404 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the Lombard it replaced. I loved it. Replaced it with a Titanium.

  • @CozyMoose
    @CozyMoose 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.. love geeking out to vintage Mac videos. Thank you for making!!

  • @dd07871
    @dd07871 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the game at 1:44?

  • @kuralist6472
    @kuralist6472 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, more videos like that!

  • @koolioperson5534
    @koolioperson5534 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    25th, this man needs more subs

  • @merouby
    @merouby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed!

  • @aretard7995
    @aretard7995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "YeserYear's Macs"

    • @carlkrebs6857
      @carlkrebs6857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, he meant “yesteryear” right?

    • @aretard7995
      @aretard7995 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlkrebs6857 yeah