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Hi Ashley, does the same once-off topping of 4cm from pre-transplant seedlings principle apply to leaks as well? Does the nipping off stimulate new set of inner leaves to grow sooner?
I've casually tried onions from seed in previous years, but didn't put much thought into it and always planted too late. This year I've done more digging on the topic, and I've got my seedlings well on their way, so these videos are greatly appreciated! We love all things allium in our household :)
This explains so much on why chasing bulbs on alliums is so hard in Florida for me: 1) soil gets too hot b4 time 2) no dedicated space, so grown as bug deterrent around other crops as "companion planting" and probably gets shade as well 3) tops are too freaking delish, so hard to keep from chopping some to garnish meals. #3 is entirely the onion, and particularly the garlics' fault, of course.
Agree totally on point 3! This year I am going to grow onions and garlic purely for the tops. The onions will be of perennial types so they don't mind losing some mass on top. We are crazy about drying onion tops and mixing with salt for an herb salt. Especially garlic is completely addictive but chives or any onion top will do.
Already trimmed mine. I usually watch migardener too and I’m pretty sure that’s where I learned that you could trim the if they look a bit rough. They seem to be doing great though.
I'll be trying the spooning method this year 🤞 I've been forking between my carrots hoping for larger harvests, but they jury is still out on that one since the bunnies topped most of them along with the onions. I'm sure you can guess I'll be increasing my fencing this year 😉
I actually have heard both points to this and I actually agree with what I heard once which was.... people have just been doing this for so long no one knew why or questioned it.
Yea it’s wild. A university actually wrote a paper on this and mentioned the study was being done because they thought there was a qualitative observation by Gardeners.
I never saw the sense in doing that, but I did try a few bulbs once and didn't see that it was helping. I was sent to Crete for about a month. While I was hiking on an ancient Byzantine trail I found onions the had been reseeding themselves for centuries. They were huge. There isn't any rain from April to about October, if I remember. Everything was burnt, but the onions still survived. You could no longer eat them because they would flake into the breeze when picked. They dotted the whole trail above the gorge. They sprouted between the ancient cobblestones. Thanks for the info! Take care!
Perfect. Common sense and science answers to onion growing. Got to have green for photosynthesis. If topping worked, farmers would do it. Also, thanks so much for the spooning advice. Love your content Ashley! Keep on growing!
Awesome video😁❤️ I have a suggestion for a future video. I have been going down the rabbit hole of wool pellets in the garden. I would love to know your opinions on this.
I have been binging through your video the last week or so an have especially been loving your videos on soil supplements and amendments. I don't think you can get it in Canada but could you do a video on the John and Bob's products? They make some bold claims but conceptually it seems sound. They also have a youtube channel where they occasionally discuss their products. Ty if you do
Hi there. Thank you for the information you provided. I was looking for the source of the university study you mentioned in your video. This is not a criticism in any way shape or form. I hope to read an article you found after mucho hours spent because I have been topping my onion at least 2 but mostly more times before transplanting BECAUSE such action creates more robust root formation. Where can I find those articles please, thank you in advance.
Gosh I just topped mine this morning, probably the 4th or 5th time this season - QUESTION - if you do not top the onion and the green stem/leaf falls over as they do when getting tall, the bent over stem has no affect on the plant then?
@@GardeningInCanada I'm talking about adult plants out in the garden falling down. My seedlings don't get too leggy. They're in a west window in addition to a big expensive light that the dope growers use.
I am always confused by “as soon as possible” in a cold climate. We still have 3 ft of snow over our beds so I have time to learn… but does that mean as soon as I can work the soil even if the nights still get well below freezing (-10 or colder)? Or what would be the coldest over night temperatures?
I have been topping off my onion seedlings, but I stop about a month before going out in the garden. One year I followed advise to top growing onions out in the garden and it did effect the size of the ones topped. Normally, I plant my onions rather shallow and as they grow I mulched them with shredded leaves and aged compost mixture, for weed control and a very loose medium to grow in. Now that I have jumping worms in that bed I have to make some changes. The shredded leaves and compost are among jumping worms favorite food. At this point all I am planning to do is plant in the soil, with no mulch, fortunately this bed will be 4 years in the making so the soil is pretty loose. One issue is, what the jumping worms actually did to the soil. The top few inches are more of a coffee ground texture basically they remove all the soil aggregates. As much as I hate to do it I think I will till the soil, to mix the granular castings from the jumping worms with the good soil below it. Then through out the growing season keep adding beneficial microbes to try and rebuild the soil. As Usual, another great video. Stay Well!!! Welcome home SPRING!
@@katiej9967 I have been growing onions Ruth Stout for 3 years. Only difference is I use shredded leaves and compost mixed together. Works Great. Word of caution. If you have jumping worms in your area you could attract them. That happened to me last year.
Onion and garlic are not allowed in my garden or in containers. I always have dogs and they love onion and garlic tops. But the onion and garlic isn't good for the dogs. And I hate vet bills.
My Maligators love onions and garlic as well, I thought they were weirdos. Thankfully my garden is military base secure thanks to the deer, bear, voles, birds, rabbits etc, so the dogs can't get in there.
What about topping onions with top hats? Creating an upper class should cause the lower class bulbs to rise up in an attempt to over throw them But seriously, no intercropping onions? That's a shame and explains last years results for me. Is there no companion plant that works with onions or are they that picky?
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Hi Ashley, does the same once-off topping of 4cm from pre-transplant seedlings principle apply to leaks as well? Does the nipping off stimulate new set of inner leaves to grow sooner?
I've casually tried onions from seed in previous years, but didn't put much thought into it and always planted too late. This year I've done more digging on the topic, and I've got my seedlings well on their way, so these videos are greatly appreciated! We love all things allium in our household :)
They are flavour city!
Thank you Ashley!!
No problemo
This explains so much on why chasing bulbs on alliums is so hard in Florida for me: 1) soil gets too hot b4 time 2) no dedicated space, so grown as bug deterrent around other crops as "companion planting" and probably gets shade as well 3) tops are too freaking delish, so hard to keep from chopping some to garnish meals. #3 is entirely the onion, and particularly the garlics' fault, of course.
Oh yes warm soil can hamper the growth a lot.
Agree totally on point 3! This year I am going to grow onions and garlic purely for the tops. The onions will be of perennial types so they don't mind losing some mass on top.
We are crazy about drying onion tops and mixing with salt for an herb salt. Especially garlic is completely addictive but chives or any onion top will do.
Already trimmed mine. I usually watch migardener too and I’m pretty sure that’s where I learned that you could trim the if they look a bit rough. They seem to be doing great though.
Oh yea they will turn out totally fine
Same!
I'll be trying the spooning method this year 🤞 I've been forking between my carrots hoping for larger harvests, but they jury is still out on that one since the bunnies topped most of them along with the onions. I'm sure you can guess I'll be increasing my fencing this year 😉
I actually have heard both points to this and I actually agree with what I heard once which was.... people have just been doing this for so long no one knew why or questioned it.
Yea it’s wild. A university actually wrote a paper on this and mentioned the study was being done because they thought there was a qualitative observation by Gardeners.
Thank you for this! I still haven’t trimmed my onion seedlings. I may just try and transplant without trimming in this case!
Yea they will look a little sad I trimmed but just ignoring it🤣
Great information, thanks so much. I have tried growing onions before with little success but I'll give them a try again next year. Take care.
I really enjoy them grown from scratch
Thanks so much! Very informative. Love the studies.
Glad you like them!
Always great info. Thanks!
Any time!
I love my onions but have never spooned with them!
Yea! It makes a difference
I never saw the sense in doing that, but I did try a few bulbs once and didn't see that it was helping. I was sent to Crete for about a month. While I was hiking on an ancient Byzantine trail I found onions the had been reseeding themselves for centuries. They were huge. There isn't any rain from April to about October, if I remember. Everything was burnt, but the onions still survived. You could no longer eat them because they would flake into the breeze when picked. They dotted the whole trail above the gorge. They sprouted between the ancient cobblestones. Thanks for the info! Take care!
That’s interesting you tried it and observed no difference. I love DIY experiments like that
Seed choice makes a big difference. One of my Spanish onions was 2lb 4 oz.
Perfect. Common sense and science answers to onion growing. Got to have green for photosynthesis. If topping worked, farmers would do it. Also, thanks so much for the spooning advice. Love your content Ashley! Keep on growing!
Thank you so much!
Very enlightening! Thank you 🙏 What about epsom salt as a source of sulphur for onions?
I wouldn’t use the epsom because it has to much magnesium
I love it when my SIL who grows nothing says "Why would you bother with onions when they're so cheap anyway?" Bite me!
Now you tell me! I wish I had seen this sooner.
It’s okay they will turn out!
Awesome video😁❤️
I have a suggestion for a future video. I have been going down the rabbit hole of wool pellets in the garden. I would love to know your opinions on this.
Great idea!
I have been binging through your video the last week or so an have especially been loving your videos on soil supplements and amendments. I don't think you can get it in Canada but could you do a video on the John and Bob's products? They make some bold claims but conceptually it seems sound. They also have a youtube channel where they occasionally discuss their products. Ty if you do
I can look into it. I have never heard about it before though.
Hi there. Thank you for the information you provided. I was looking for the source of the university study you mentioned in your video. This is not a criticism in any way shape or form. I hope to read an article you found after mucho hours spent because I have been topping my onion at least 2 but mostly more times before transplanting BECAUSE such action creates more robust root formation. Where can I find those articles please, thank you in advance.
Here you go! blog-fruit-vegetable-ipm.extension.umn.edu/2021/03/2021-considerations-optimizing-onions.html
Gosh I just topped mine this morning, probably the 4th or 5th time this season - QUESTION - if you do not top the onion and the green stem/leaf falls over as they do when getting tall, the bent over stem has no affect on the plant then?
My onions always tip over too early. What prevents that? I'm definitely planting them out earlier this year, maybe that will help?
That maybe leggy seedlings how far are you lights? And how much are you fertilizing
@@GardeningInCanada I'm talking about adult plants out in the garden falling down.
My seedlings don't get too leggy. They're in a west window in addition to a big expensive light that the dope growers use.
To top or not to top has been decided for me by visiting bunnies the past few years. At least they leave fertilizer behind 😂
Haha! Definitely can not control that
Would this apply to leek as well?
I am always confused by “as soon as possible” in a cold climate. We still have 3 ft of snow over our beds so I have time to learn… but does that mean as soon as I can work the soil even if the nights still get well below freezing (-10 or colder)? Or what would be the coldest over night temperatures?
Soil temp is what matters so 3c for these is best
@@GardeningInCanada. Thanks!
Beautiful plant
What about green onions? Can i cut/harvest the top from time to time?
I have been topping off my onion seedlings, but I stop about a month before going out in the garden. One year I followed advise to top growing onions out in the garden and it did effect the size of the ones topped.
Normally, I plant my onions rather shallow and as they grow I mulched them with shredded leaves and aged compost mixture, for weed control and a very loose medium to grow in.
Now that I have jumping worms in that bed I have to make some changes. The shredded leaves and compost are among jumping worms favorite food.
At this point all I am planning to do is plant in the soil, with no mulch, fortunately this bed will be 4 years in the making so the soil is pretty loose. One issue is, what the jumping worms actually did to the soil. The top few inches are more of a coffee ground texture basically they remove all the soil aggregates. As much as I hate to do it I think I will till the soil, to mix the granular castings from the jumping worms with the good soil below it. Then through out the growing season keep adding beneficial microbes to try and rebuild the soil.
As Usual, another great video. Stay Well!!! Welcome home SPRING!
Nice💐💐👌👌
Thank you! Cheers!
How do you think they would do in a straw garden?
I’m a Ruth stout type setup?
@@GardeningInCanada yes my 1 garden is a Ruth garden. But I have never put onions in it.
@@katiej9967 I have been growing onions Ruth Stout for 3 years. Only difference is I use shredded leaves and compost mixed together. Works Great.
Word of caution. If you have jumping worms in your area you could attract them. That happened to me last year.
@@brianseybert2189 awesome thank you! I think I will do half in my no till and other half in regular garden.
Great tips, my onions are always really small. Definitely gonna hit them with sulfur.
It will make a difference
First I got to manage to grow the damn things! Already on the second attempt and I’ve run out of seeds. Sigh
They are not germinating?
@@GardeningInCanada germinating then puny and dying! No worries I will get there or get starts!
They are generally pretty small and look a bit spindly
What about garlic?
With garlic the key is to remove the flower
@@GardeningInCanada thanks! It’s my first time doing garlic I see it popping up 😍🌱
I tried and most died, and none did any good .
I've heard that from many TH-cam teacher when tops I'm not but more fans
Thanks
Ooo no that’s not good
I planted the seeds, they came up, unfolded, flopped cover and died! What did I do wrong?
The usually means not enough light
Onion and garlic are not allowed in my garden or in containers. I always have dogs and they love onion and garlic tops. But the onion and garlic isn't good for the dogs. And I hate vet bills.
What!? That’s wild! Do the eat the bulbs?
@@GardeningInCanada If they could get to them,yes.
My Maligators love onions and garlic as well, I thought they were weirdos. Thankfully my garden is military base secure thanks to the deer, bear, voles, birds, rabbits etc, so the dogs can't get in there.
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What about topping onions with top hats? Creating an upper class should cause the lower class bulbs to rise up in an attempt to over throw them
But seriously, no intercropping onions? That's a shame and explains last years results for me. Is there no companion plant that works with onions or are they that picky?
They are just that picky about their root tension. But I agree it’s the perfect sized crop to go in tomato rows and such
Nice hairstyle btw
But Ashley, 4cm IS 1.57 inches...
"The Gardener Theory" Otherwise Known as "Pseudoscience"
Depends on the day lol
The veggie boys site, top all their onions
Commercial onion growers don’t spoon their plants!!! Why should we have to?
If you till and have a light soil it’s that heavy at then you don’t need to. But if you are no dig and heavy clay something to consider forsure
This video didnt age well😅