Finding Peace with God: Catholic vs Protestant Perspectives | Jimmy Akin vs James White
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- Explore different theological perspectives on "How Does One Find Peace with God?" in this debate between Catholic apologist Jimmy Akin and Protestant apologist James White, held on April 25, 2024, at FBC Livingston, Louisiana.
🕒 Debate Details:
- Date: April 25, 2024
- Time: 6:30 PM - 8:30 PM CDT
- Location: FBC Livingston, 29401 S. Frost Rd Hwy 63, Livingston, LA 70754
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For more information on the speakers:
- Jimmy Akin: [JimmyAkin.com](www.jimmyakin.com)
- James White: [aomin.org](www.aomin.org)
📚 *About the Debaters:*
Jimmy Akin, with over twenty-five years of experience in apologetics, brings a rich Catholic perspective.
James White, an accomplished author and debater, offers a deep Protestant viewpoint on theological issues.
0:20 introduction by Brian Gunther (Moderator).
6:00 James White (Calvinist/Reformed party) takes to the stage.
21:30 Jimmy Akin (Catholic Answers apologist) takes to the stage.
37:15 Jimmy Akin praises James White's shoes.
37:30 James White returns.
45:00 Jimmy Akin again.
52:25 James White.
56:30 Jimmy Akin.
1:01:29 Apology and prayer before the break.
1:09:04 James White cross-examines Jimmy Akin.
1:19:14 JA crossexamines JW.
1:22:24 JA gets JW to admit that final santification happens between death and heaven.
1:29:30 Q & A.
2:02:45 JW's closing statement.
2:07:45 JA's closing statement.
2:13:30 Announcements from the moderator.
What kind of shoes were they though????
It’s getting embarrassing for James White aka “#1 Catholic Evangelist”
Nobody has brought more converts to Catholicism in the last 20 years than James White lol
@@mattbernacki9282 now I understand the Spanish conquistador look he is going for haha
i dont understand how james white lost this debate??
@@kylecityy all he did was deflect and bring up issues other than what the debate topic was. Jimmy called it out for what it was and James just laughs it off. Classic what about ism
@mattbernacki9282 i dont think james points were out of context. infact i think jimmy akin claimed james white was overloading his argument, and besides jimmy akin atleast trying to respond to james white he used premade slides for rebuttals. almost as if it was a presentation, not a debate. he did not engage with james Whites' arguments at all, and when he did he said he "doesnt want to argue with words" making the debate pointless. also jimmy akin used a common denominator fallacy in his cross examination period to prove that james white and his position are not disputable with one another.
Sanctification ceases with death of the body. In heaven we will not have a physical body. This will only materialise at the resurrection on the last day. The believer in heaven, in the intermediate state, will be no more perfect than he is now, in Christ!
A lot of people don’t like James White…. Considering he’s been the biggest proponent to the catholic faith coming from the Protestant side (when it comes to debates) for the last 30+ years… nonetheless I feel as though there’s some distastefulness for James white and a lot of people undermine this man’s work.. or his skill as a debater. Jimmy Akin is a GREAT debater.. but James is as well. I just pray that we can appreciate these moments!
James only has his interpretation of scripture and there are reasonable understandings of scripture that differ from his, not only from Catholics, but Orthodox, Lutherans, and other protestants. JW can only go back to and reread scripture and his fallible interpretation of it as there is no authority in the Church of James to decide who is right. He has taken the bible and has decapitated it from the faith from which it came, based on the 16th c man-made invention of sola scriptura and the teaching of a Catholic lawyer named Calvin. The result is much doctrinal chaos, confusion, and division from both Catholicism and in many cases from the rest of Christianity.
*Best part of the debate:* when JW admitted, reluctantly, having danced around the answer, that final sanctification occurrs between death and heaven. VERY Catholic! That's what Catholic's teach in part about purgatory. JW AGREED with the Pope that we are transformed with a "transforming encounter with Christ."
The problem with JW is he has taken a Catholic book, the bible, and has decapitated it from the faith from which it came, believing based on a 16th c man-made doctrine of sola scripture that he has the authority to interpret on his own.
Never seen someone lose so many debates in a row as James White it's ridiculous.
Also, remember every time Dr. White speaks that he's a five point Calvinist and his dialogues are just silly.
@@t.d6379 his PhD is fake so it's actually Mr. James White.
he won the debate though
@idankpoaugustine1983 this is false. he has 3 doctorates. one from an accredited northwestern university, the other two are questioned, due to the university not being old enough to be accredited yet. however he is a professor at seminary and is well established as a textual criticism scholar and the language of koine greek. stop trying discredit him and actually engage with his arguments.
@idankpoaugustine1983 proof? Na just a strawman cause you don't have the knowledge to actually refute any of his beliefs. 😂
Sin is sin, there are not two categories, this is RC nonsense!
This debate was really embarrassing for James White
Especially the 1:22:24 mark.
i thought james won
@idankpoaugustine1983 just listened to that part. im not too sure how that proved james white was wrong
@@kylecityy he conceded that between our death and resurrection, there is a cleansing which is the Catholic position on it. He conceded his opponent's position, that's how.
@idankpoaugustine1983 first of all james white agreed that theres a difference between living as a human on earth vs being in heaven and he did not take any sort of view of purgatory.
every single reformer and majority of protestant scholars agree that faith alone does not entail purgatory/cleansing of sins in that sense, while also noting the change of the soul from sinful to being in God's presence being able to not intend to do sin in heaven. i dont think that made james white win or lose the debate because he clearly still had the disagreement and distinctions explained
Wow… I really do respect Jimmy Akin.. a lot, I believe him to be a GREAT debater.. one of the best for the catholic position and I would never discredit him or his work. Nonetheless I believe James won this debate. The “Overload” tactic referred to by Jimmy throwing away All of James rebuttals to a curb and then to and then proceed with his slide show I believe to be un-charitable.. it’s almost like deflecting and then just doing what you want! The truth of the matter was that it’s Catholic Answers who stated they wanted the rebuttal periods to be of that time. So it’s not like James got to pick that short time of a rebuttal period Catholic Answers did! I feel like I’d have loved to see Jimmy at least respond to one! To disregard it all and then proceed with whatever he wanted didn’t seem right!! Nonetheless I don’t want any of my Catholics to think I didn’t like Jimmy .. I just think we should take a honest approach and..I believe for that same reason on top of the play on words .. claiming James to not define words etc. but great debate by both. Jimmy is excellent when it comes to cross fire. And honestly I wouldn’t have no other people debate on this topic except for these two! Excellent debaters but I believe James won..
James White comes across as extremely defensive. Red flag.