I really appreciate your videos because I have an anxiety disorder and since moving to London was very nervous about underground so learning the history makes me feel better about it. I've been so much more at ease since subscribing. Thank you. 💕
@@brianartillery wow that's so awesome! I can't say I've been a fan for that long when I'm not 40 but I've loved when ever since I first heard them at 13. Favourite band. ♥️
Both entertaining and informative, a great video overall. *BUT* when you delve into the complexities of lines you really, *really* need to provide us with a *MAP* (even just an extract from a Tube map) to help those of us who are not natives of London to work out precisely where the lines are/were. Thanks.
I think most people, aside from Tube and railway geeks and Geoff Marshall, will struggle to locate the stations mentioned, especially when there are multiple stations on multiple lines within one neighbourhood. Thus, a map would be really useful.
@@pixoontube2912 Whitechapel to Bow... I assume you know where the City of London is (the City). Start at Aldgate East, which is at the old eastern gate for the City. If you really don't know the area the Lloyds building and the Gherkin are pretty close to Aldgate. The first stop after Aldgate East is Whitechapel. Next after that is Stepney Green. Then it's Mile End, where it has a connection with the Central line. Then it's Bow Road, which is the last station still underground(mostly), before you come above ground for Bromley by Bow and West Ham and other stations on the district line towards Barking and Upminster. Whitechapel, Stepney Green, Mile End and Bow Road are all in Zone 2. These stations were built using cut and cover, so from Aldgate, follow the A11 (which is the road that would have been dug up for a lot of the route when building the railway line)... - Whitechapel Road, which becomes Mile End Road, which becomes Bow Road..., and you'll pass all 4 stations... (Whitechapel and Stepney Green on your left, Mile End and Bow Road on your right).
In Jago's previous video on the other Bow stations there is a map of the tangled web of lines and stations round Bow. Only briefly shown, but useful and I hit the Pause button for a good look!
That bridge over Bow Road (that the Great Eastern used to run on) used to have 'Ferodo' on it. I miss that. I was born just up the road in Mile End Hospital, and my early years were spent living in Bow. So for me, it's my 'home' tube station, even though I've not lived there in nearly forty years. Great to see it again.
Point to note is that the LCC boundary was the river lea until 1965 so the next station out, Bromley-by-Bow, was technically the last District line station in London.
"The struggle for existence began on the seashore." I'm not sure whether I'd call that a tantalizing advertising slogan or maybe the most tantalizing one of all.
14 times Bow was mentioned. I.used to get off every day at Bow Road to go to school just around the corner until the school moved to Upminster in 1971.Nice shot of Upminster Station and the start of the underground depot.
Bow and Mile End where my local stations, the great thing about them was because they are so close to the surface it was very quick to get out. Unless things have changed there was no disability access though.
There used to be some bay platforms at Whitechapel where trains could be sent back through central london. Thats why, post crossrail, the platform is so wide on the district/hammersmith lines.
I can see a video on the history of Fenchurch Street coming up, what was once a major interchange - so important that it appears on the Monopoly board (surely a mark of relevance to London - and probably another video idea for you Jago to compare the board to London today), but now Fenchurch Street is firmly relegated to one of London’s ‘class 2’ termini like Canon Street and Waterloo East, i.e. not somewhere most people go to I’ll give you my paypal details to share the royalties from these block-buster videos, Jago
I always find it strange that all four Monopoly termini were LNER stations - as there are four stations on the board, and there were 4 railway companies at the time Monopoly came out, I would have expected one from each.
@@RJSRdg Despite being one of London's smaller terminus stations, Fenchurch Street does have an interesting, fairly complex history. Having been shared by a few independent railway companies, including the Midland, it continued to be shared after the 1923 grouping, by the LMS 𝒂𝒏𝒅 the LNER. The LNER services were taken over by the UndergrounD in 1948 and the station would have been used by only the LMS, had it not been for nationalisation. The four choices of mainline stations on the Monopoly board puzzled me a wee bit too. With four sides to the board, it would have been very straightforward to use stations in North, South, East and West London(ish) - Euston, Liverpool Street, Waterloo and Paddington would be one obvious option. This would also represent the four companies of the grouping, or the four BR regions that involved London. 😁
The name "Whitechapel and Bow Railway" always seemed to me to embody the stereotypes we have of the Victorian era, just because of how it looks and sounds.
I guess the 'half underground' reference accounts for the fact that it is mostly overground at this point. In fact a surprisingly large portion of the Underground system is, in fact, overground. Do you have the number for Trading Standards? 🤔
@@ohgosh5892 Although I don't think the song would have been quite the same if it went... 'Underground, overground, but mostly overground...' although it may be worth mentioning to Mike Batt next time you see him down the pub. Surely it's about time for a revival.
was there ever tracks of the District Line to Fenchurch. Little confused as to the routing that would be possible: cartometro.com/cartes/metro-london/ doesn't have any indication of abandoned or related tracks and it would be quite interesting if there is something there
Funny I walked in front of this station yesterday afternoon for the very first time while exploring the area and today here's your video about it... were you stalking me? Or the other way round maybe...? 😁
At 1:40 .. I'll be blowed, that's an Adams 4-4-2! (Googled) Yes, the LT&SR 'borrowed' a design from William Adams of the South Western. I never knew that...
I got caught out by the 'interchange' between Bow Church (DLR) and Bow Road, trying to get from Greenwich (DLR) to Uxbridge with wife in tow on a wet day. Urgh. I can see 5 obvious routes that don't involve Bow Road. If only I'd known...
If you look at his previous video, wasn't it three (for the Great Eastern elevated track crossing the road), and four if you include the station where the Enterprise car rental is which was for the North London Line track going under the road (in the cutting the DLR now runs along). There was one on the west side of the elevated railway between it and the courthouse on what is now Arnold Road, and one on the opposite side of the railway line that is now the star cars minicab place, then finally the one on the North side of the road in what is now William Hill's, next to the little driver pub which meant that people changing to the North London line station didn't need to cross the road.
@@BarryAllenMagicas someone whose family comes from Grays, may I say that it isn't much better to get off any earlier, either. Gravesend, now that's where it's at.
Are the lifts at Whitchapel Station up and running. I need to see a man there but need the lift as I am staircase challenged now and I have been waiting for six years and I fear his oranges may have gone off
thanks again Jago. heard your podcast which was very entertaining. Nowadays if you see a Bow street runner they are more likely to be fleeing a crime scene, stolen phone in hand. Perhaps I'm cynical. Keep up the good work
Just a thought,why not do a video of abandoned,closed disused and demolished stations on the North London line that ran from Richmond to the old Broad street station. I have heard a rumor that the old demolished station ''Maiden Lane'' on York way is been considered for a new station on site location in a redevelopment plan.
I doubt that the Whitechapel and Bow as a separate railway would ever have made a profit to cover its construction costs. Clearly its promoters were always hoping for the full buy out by the others. Could you make it clear when the Met built the curve and connection to Whitchapel from (Not Aldgate) or did I miss that in the Aldgate East video, as I cannot work out where the Met terminated prior to the running to Barking / Plaistow as you mention here.
Metropolitan terminated at Aldgate, Until they rebuilt Aldgate East so that they could build the curve. (He has a video on Aldgate East talking about the resiting of Aldgate East and the consequent closing of St Mary's Whitechapel as part of that).
Hi Jago. Another interesting video. The S stock trains look resplendent going through those heritage asset stations on the District Line. Rather than just give a laconic commentary, you might consider giving your channel more focus on preserving and maintaining heritage assets on the London Underground. How about ranting on about the unsympathetic things on the platforms which detract from the period architecture? Thanks for uploading.
Dear Jago, Thanks for all the fascinating railway information. It has also dawned on me how good your use of English is. Several minutes speaking and not a single barbaric americanism, with which most TH-camrs lard their commentaries. And you call a place where trains stop a railway station, which is a miniature Victorian poem in its own right, as opposed to a ***** station, which is an abomination with two stuttering stressed syllables adjacent to one another and therefore unpronounceable. Till next time.
I can't hear Whitechapel without thinking of Jack the Ripper. According to Google, it seems like there was a train there at the time, built in 1876. Makes me wonder if he ever made his way home by train.
What about Bromley-by-Bow. And not just Bow Road and Bow Church. I’m sure that there’s lots more history of Bromley-by-Bow in East London. And probably do Plaistow, West Ham, East Ham, Dagenham, Barking and Ilford.
That was basically a slogan for a television programme ( presented by John peel I think) based on the fact that its rolling stock was coming towards the end of its natural life. In reality most lines will suffer this indignity in rotation.
@@oldfatbastad6053 when in lived at pitsea the class 302s were still going in worn out conditions as the rolling stock was hand me down unlike Southend vic line
I'm surprised how nasty and rivalry these companies are. Looks like nothing much has changed in history then. A spirit of cooperation wouldn't go amiss.;-) I've just witnessed a conservative government in the UK do the unthinkable - renationalise the railways. I think the covid situation means that a lot of railway companies will face great financial difficulties. On a brighter side a lot of people, especially millennials, will get the largest pay increase in their entire life. Ironically not from a private company or the government.
I really appreciate your videos because I have an anxiety disorder and since moving to London was very nervous about underground so learning the history makes me feel better about it. I've been so much more at ease since subscribing. Thank you. 💕
Good user name. I've been a fan of Northampton's finest - Bauhaus, for 40+ years. Still love their music.
@@brianartillery wow that's so awesome! I can't say I've been a fan for that long when I'm not 40 but I've loved when ever since I first heard them at 13. Favourite band. ♥️
Both entertaining and informative, a great video overall. *BUT* when you delve into the complexities of lines you really, *really* need to provide us with a *MAP* (even just an extract from a Tube map) to help those of us who are not natives of London to work out precisely where the lines are/were. Thanks.
Lived in London all my 50+ years, and I too would benefit from this.
I think most people, aside from Tube and railway geeks and Geoff Marshall, will struggle to locate the stations mentioned, especially when there are multiple stations on multiple lines within one neighbourhood. Thus, a map would be really useful.
yes that would help a lot.
@@pixoontube2912 Whitechapel to Bow...
I assume you know where the City of London is (the City). Start at Aldgate East, which is at the old eastern gate for the City. If you really don't know the area the Lloyds building and the Gherkin are pretty close to Aldgate.
The first stop after Aldgate East is Whitechapel.
Next after that is Stepney Green.
Then it's Mile End, where it has a connection with the Central line.
Then it's Bow Road, which is the last station still underground(mostly), before you come above ground for Bromley by Bow and West Ham and other stations on the district line towards Barking and Upminster.
Whitechapel, Stepney Green, Mile End and Bow Road are all in Zone 2.
These stations were built using cut and cover, so from Aldgate, follow the A11 (which is the road that would have been dug up for a lot of the route when building the railway line)... - Whitechapel Road, which becomes Mile End Road, which becomes Bow Road..., and you'll pass all 4 stations... (Whitechapel and Stepney Green on your left, Mile End and Bow Road on your right).
In Jago's previous video on the other Bow stations there is a map of the tangled web of lines and stations round Bow. Only briefly shown, but useful and I hit the Pause button for a good look!
Congratulations - you avoided too many puns this time, Mr Hazzard - take a Bow!
Did he avoid them deliberately or was he just Bowne idle?
It all ties in though ,!
@@johnsaunders2109 I've knot got an answer for that.
No Charles Tyson Yerkes in the entire video? Are you sure that’s right? Surely there’s a connection.
He did mention the station was briefly owned by Yerkes' "Underground Electric".
Bow Road is between Fenchurch and Marylebone on the original UK London Monopoly Board. Great video as ever Mr Hazzard! Thank you.
That bridge over Bow Road (that the Great Eastern used to run on) used to have 'Ferodo' on it. I miss that.
I was born just up the road in Mile End Hospital, and my early years were spent living in Bow. So for me, it's my 'home' tube station, even though I've not lived there in nearly forty years. Great to see it again.
yeah, i live right next to that bridge it was such a shame when they removed ferodo. you can still see it on old google earth street view images tho
Point to note is that the LCC boundary was the river lea until 1965 so the next station out, Bromley-by-Bow, was technically the last District line station in London.
"The struggle for existence began on the seashore." I'm not sure whether I'd call that a tantalizing advertising slogan or maybe the most tantalizing one of all.
yes - i somehow paused the video there and wondered how on earth did the poster-illustrator get that black-and-white thud in there
14 times Bow was mentioned. I.used to get off every day at Bow Road to go to school just around the corner until the school moved to Upminster in 1971.Nice shot of Upminster Station and the start of the underground depot.
Never knew Bow was such a historic area in terms of the railways. You learn something new everyday. Great video as always!
Bow-ler hats could be a merchandise idea
Bow and Mile End where my local stations, the great thing about them was because they are so close to the surface it was very quick to get out.
Unless things have changed there was no disability access though.
This was, as ever, most excellent. I was hoping for a reference to the Face of Boe, but there’s a few billion years for that yet!
Plenty of time then. Who's for a cuppa?
Thanks for this Bow-nus video
I bow to your wisdom and knowledge on Bow road.
Thank you for concentrating on my local stations this week!
You know what would be an excellent interesting idea? A video on De Beavoir Town!! Would love to hear more about it
de Beauvoir, surely ?
Legend has it, if you commit a crime in the station it's the Bow Street Runners who chase you down. Or as there're known now the platform Runners.
There used to be some bay platforms at Whitechapel where trains could be sent back through central london. Thats why, post crossrail, the platform is so wide on the district/hammersmith lines.
You have a neat way of making some fairly complex facts into a mostly understandable story for those of us who are impressed by that sort of thing.
I can see a video on the history of Fenchurch Street coming up, what was once a major interchange - so important that it appears on the Monopoly board (surely a mark of relevance to London - and probably another video idea for you Jago to compare the board to London today), but now Fenchurch Street is firmly relegated to one of London’s ‘class 2’ termini like Canon Street and Waterloo East, i.e. not somewhere most people go to
I’ll give you my paypal details to share the royalties from these block-buster videos, Jago
I always find it strange that all four Monopoly termini were LNER stations - as there are four stations on the board, and there were 4 railway companies at the time Monopoly came out, I would have expected one from each.
@@RJSRdg Despite being one of London's smaller terminus stations, Fenchurch Street does have an interesting, fairly complex history. Having been shared by a few independent railway companies, including the Midland, it continued to be shared after the 1923 grouping, by the LMS 𝒂𝒏𝒅 the LNER.
The LNER services were taken over by the UndergrounD in 1948 and the station would have been used by only the LMS, had it not been for nationalisation.
The four choices of mainline stations on the Monopoly board puzzled me a wee bit too. With four sides to the board, it would have been very straightforward to use stations in North, South, East and West London(ish) - Euston, Liverpool Street, Waterloo and Paddington would be one obvious option. This would also represent the four companies of the grouping, or the four BR regions that involved London. 😁
You can never have enough Bow!
Bow church station (at first sight) looks like a petrol station.
Yes. Damn odd architectural decision they made there.
Another interesting video, Jago. You really are Bow Selector at the minute!
Really enjoy your vids, informative and entertaining. Keep em coming!
Once again sir, bravo, bravo!
"It's time to put on our deer stalker hat..."
(thinks) "...and our darling hunting jacket..."
Jokes after my own heart.
(hands off! It's mine)
@@christopherlawley1842 I listened to ISIRTA so much that I instinctively respond to feed lines. 😁
Me too.
That’s just leaves Bromley by Bow now.
The name "Whitechapel and Bow Railway" always seemed to me to embody the stereotypes we have of the Victorian era, just because of how it looks and sounds.
You will never be bow-red watching Jago's videos.
A chapter on Stepney Green station would be nice. I used to go there a lot.
Far from being bow-red, I was absolutely bow-led over.
The building has character.💛
YES A JAGO HAZZARD VIDEO ON MY LOCAL STATION LETS GOOOO
Jago just could not resist the Sherlock Holmes connection. I just knew this would happen. 😉
Interesting history as always!
4:22 Well at least you didn't say "do a line of bow".
Informative as always and most enjoyable
Brilliant video as always… but it does beg the question of where Mile End station fits in with the grand scheme of The Whitechapel and Bow Railway…
looks like mile end must have been rebuilt with the extension of the Central Line
I guess the 'half underground' reference accounts for the fact that it is mostly overground at this point. In fact a surprisingly large portion of the Underground system is, in fact, overground.
Do you have the number for Trading Standards? 🤔
No, I think the 'half Underground' was a reference to its being half owned by the District and half by the LT&S.
And the platforms are half in a tunnel and half outdoors!
I thought it was a Harry Potter reference.
Wombling: Underground, overground.
@@ohgosh5892 Although I don't think the song would have been quite the same if it went... 'Underground, overground, but mostly overground...' although it may be worth mentioning to Mike Batt next time you see him down the pub. Surely it's about time for a revival.
How dare you!!!!!!
…To make an excellent presentation every single time!!!
I… BOW to you!! 🙇🏽♂️ 🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋💨
So you're saying everybody used Fenchurch? Someone tell Arthur!
Thanks. I Bow down to your continued expertise :-)
was there ever tracks of the District Line to Fenchurch. Little confused as to the routing that would be possible:
cartometro.com/cartes/metro-london/ doesn't have any indication of abandoned or related tracks and it would be quite interesting if there is something there
Could you coveer the Bromley-by-Bow station in Devons Road, Please, Jago?
Mr Hazard adding another string to his Bow.
My brain hurts,all this complicated stufff around Bow, at least now I know why I didn't travel around the east of London much,I was too confused !
Funny I walked in front of this station yesterday afternoon for the very first time while exploring the area and today here's your video about it... were you stalking me? Or the other way round maybe...? 😁
Great minds think alike!
Thanks Jago . Keep safe. I feel home sick Again 👍
At 1:40 .. I'll be blowed, that's an Adams 4-4-2! (Googled) Yes, the LT&SR 'borrowed' a design from William Adams of the South Western. I never knew that...
In its more clapped-out days in the 1990s, the LTS was disparaging known as the Loosely Tied with String.
When the crowd says … selecta!
I commuted from Bow Road in the 1970s. The platfroms were horribly dingy and dank (as were those at Stepney Greem).
I got caught out by the 'interchange' between Bow Church (DLR) and Bow Road, trying to get from Greenwich (DLR) to Uxbridge with wife in tow on a wet day. Urgh. I can see 5 obvious routes that don't involve Bow Road. If only I'd known...
Interesting that the Bow Road/Bow Church OSI passes a disused station en-route!
If you look at his previous video, wasn't it three (for the Great Eastern elevated track crossing the road), and four if you include the station where the Enterprise car rental is which was for the North London Line track going under the road (in the cutting the DLR now runs along).
There was one on the west side of the elevated railway between it and the courthouse on what is now Arnold Road, and one on the opposite side of the railway line that is now the star cars minicab place, then finally the one on the North side of the road in what is now William Hill's, next to the little driver pub which meant that people changing to the North London line station didn't need to cross the road.
Amazing to think Thurrock at one stage had the district line running through it ...if only that was the case today
The Tilbury line eh? Yes, that does sound pretty cool. 😁
Until you get off at Tilbury!
@@BarryAllenMagicas someone whose family comes from Grays, may I say that it isn't much better to get off any earlier, either. Gravesend, now that's where it's at.
The Travelling Tilburys doesn't has the same ring to it.
Are the lifts at Whitchapel Station up and running. I need to see a man there but need the lift as I am staircase challenged now and I have been waiting for six years and I fear his oranges may have gone off
Hi Jago. Another chapter in the stations of the underground - excellent. Where is my video on underground rolling stock "through the ages"?
I did fenchurch street to southend just last week!
Thanks!
thanks again Jago. heard your podcast which was very entertaining. Nowadays if you see a Bow street runner they are more likely to be fleeing a crime scene, stolen phone in hand. Perhaps I'm cynical. Keep up the good work
Fascinating
The title of this video sounds like the title of a future Harry Potter book. 👍
LONTILSOU-SEAL! Does exactly what it says on the ticket!
That's exactly why I *dont* have a job in marketing.
Are you considering to extend your beautiful series to freight lines/yards/stations (…) ?
Would be interesting too.
Just a thought,why not do a video of abandoned,closed disused and demolished stations on the North London line that ran from Richmond to the old Broad street station. I have heard a rumor that the old demolished station ''Maiden Lane'' on York way is been considered for a new station on site location in a redevelopment plan.
I can't decide which station I like best - Bow Road or Bow Church. You could say... I need a Bow Selecta.
We Bow to your superior Bow know
Is that the reason the c2c line has the bow triangle bit of line (not sure it's still used mind)
Excellent! LTSR content!
What about Bromley by Bow?
Great video Jago 😃 Did the Kray Twins demand protection from the Whitechapel railway?....
I doubt that the Whitechapel and Bow as a separate railway would ever have made a profit to cover its construction costs. Clearly its promoters were always hoping for the full buy out by the others. Could you make it clear when the Met built the curve and connection to Whitchapel from (Not Aldgate) or did I miss that in the Aldgate East video, as I cannot work out where the Met terminated prior to the running to Barking / Plaistow as you mention here.
Metropolitan terminated at Aldgate, Until they rebuilt Aldgate East so that they could build the curve. (He has a video on Aldgate East talking about the resiting of Aldgate East and the consequent closing of St Mary's Whitechapel as part of that).
Harry Potter and the half underground line.
Hi Jago. Another interesting video. The S stock trains look resplendent going through those heritage asset stations on the District Line. Rather than just give a laconic commentary, you might consider giving your channel more focus on preserving and maintaining heritage assets on the London Underground. How about ranting on about the unsympathetic things on the platforms which detract from the period architecture? Thanks for uploading.
I enjoyed that, thanks very much.
Dear Jago, Thanks for all the fascinating railway information. It has also dawned on me how good your use of English is. Several minutes speaking and not a single barbaric americanism, with which most TH-camrs lard their commentaries. And you call a place where trains stop a railway station, which is a miniature Victorian poem in its own right, as opposed to a ***** station, which is an abomination with two stuttering stressed syllables adjacent to one another and therefore unpronounceable. Till next time.
Bowled over by both BOW videos.
So enjoyable I feel 'bow legged'
Bow out for a short rest me thinks.
Jago , my many bow’d host , you have also forgotten about the Great Face of Bo , but under the circumstances I can forgive you . Cheers
I also just like the Whitechapel & Bow Railway.
Jago, given the conflicts between rival rail lines within London, How did Mile End interchange come about? Looks like it was purpose built.
All those companies mentioned and no mention of Charles Yerkes 🤪
I can't hear Whitechapel without thinking of Jack the Ripper. According to Google, it seems like there was a train there at the time, built in 1876. Makes me wonder if he ever made his way home by train.
Being a shared underground and overground station explains why the station is half open air and half in a tunnel.
What about Bromley-by-Bow. And not just Bow Road and Bow Church. I’m sure that there’s lots more history of Bromley-by-Bow in East London. And probably do Plaistow, West Ham, East Ham, Dagenham, Barking and Ilford.
@@oldfatbastad6053 True.
Are you OK Mr. H? I'm missing the almost daily uploads.
There’s one coming this evening!
Pity there isn't a "Bow" station on one of the Circle lines; as we could say "This circle has a bow on it :D ".
You said everything Bow apart from Legs...?
Never heard he LT&S referred to as The Tilbury. (Used to live overlooking the LTS etc at Barking)
JAAAGGGGGGGOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Tilbury line until the C2C days was known as misery line for years
That was basically a slogan for a television programme ( presented by John peel I think) based on the fact that its rolling stock was coming towards the end of its natural life.
In reality most lines will suffer this indignity in rotation.
@@oldfatbastad6053 when in lived at pitsea the class 302s were still going in worn out conditions as the rolling stock was hand me down unlike Southend vic line
Yes bow station! 😄
cheerio!
👍
Still cannot work out why the Tower Hill To Fenchurch Street (ish) line was never built.
I’m time I believe Bow Church will realign and become Bow road. Just my opinion. It’s stops confusion.
I'm surprised how nasty and rivalry these companies are. Looks like nothing much has changed in history then. A spirit of cooperation wouldn't go amiss.;-) I've just witnessed a conservative government in the UK do the unthinkable - renationalise the railways. I think the covid situation means that a lot of railway companies will face great financial difficulties. On a brighter side a lot of people, especially millennials, will get the largest pay increase in their entire life. Ironically not from a private company or the government.
How is it that Yerkes wasn't involved in any of these sordid machinations where Bow Road and its assorted stations are concerned?
DPD van spotting again 😅
about......now!
A link should pop up to the video right about now @4:28 ...... and then nothing pops up.