I not against you... I actually honestly want your opinion because I have thought a lot about what you just said... My best friend is severally depressed. I believe its a selfish depression as in she's only worried about herself. I deal with her crying about nothing everyday. I try so hard to love and be there for her.. But now she's pushing those who love her away.. Which is expected from most mental illnesses.. But she's been in this cycle where she blames it all on other people. She sometimes says she's trying to change but then doesn't really make an effort. I'm Christian and I have taken her to youth group and she just wont give up her selfish way of thinking. Its a confusing thing, human behavior. But am I in the wrong for just not being able to take it anymore?? I'm being emotionally drained everyday of my young high school life. Is it actually selfish for me to step away from the people who hurt my mental health disregarding theirs? I'm only 16 yet expected to hold the pain of her problems with no question... It is an inconvenient thing for me as I deal with this stress and rollercoaster ride everyday of my life.. Its easy to say "If you were a real friend you would put up with it and never leave her side" but really try and be open minded here. I'm just trying to get an opinion from a different thought process.
I use to silently judge suicidal people. Until I was the suicidal one. This video is so spot on. People don't know what it's like, they think they know but they don't.
Byron Lloyd you might have a severe social anxiety issue like i do, i found out later to be high functioning autistic.. but i hate every social situation, unless i guide the parameters... i wish you nothing but lucky in this crazy world.
adhd ocd mild schizophrenia, massive anxiety leading to uncontrollable rage, self mutilation, deprecation, addictions to drugs, and full term daily dose of 9 different meds. just walk slow brother... "life hands people hard cards, its up to us to know how to play the game" someone told me that one day.. i think i ended up punching him.
I have been suffering from depersonalization for more than half of my life...I never thought to end my life in those times, BUT....additionally I got a transmitted disease from an ex-partner that is forever in my body. It feels like everything is burning inside.
I don't agree when people say "Suicide is a selfish act" Isn't it the same when you prevent someone from committing the act though they're the one suffering?
+TheBenchmarkBrothers I think it all depends on the way in which suicide is prevented. If it's done with the person's health in mind, it's not selfish. Perhaps saying this is a tad too optimistic, but in any case I've seen, suicide has been a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If you try to help the person so that they can work towards a happy life, it's not selfish. In my personal experience, I've had a significant other with severe attachment issues stemming from maldevelopment in her childhood; I've contemplated suicide but stopped myself knowing that I'm still needed. I hold myself responsible in that regard because I was still lucid; if I had been farther down that road then I was (i.e. hysterical), I think it would have been much less my responsibility. It's selfish to prevent a suicide if it's only because you don't want to deal with the loss. It's not selfish if you want to help the person. The act of suicide is really only a selfish act when you're functioning at an approximately normal level. If you're experiencing psychosis or are past the point of maintaining any normal function, I don't think it's your fault for planning, attempting, or committing suicide.
It is not selfish to stop it. You r weird to say that. Ur promoting ppl ending their lives and breaking ppls hearts. Idc if this is 8 years ago ur utterly disgusting
Profoundly accurate assessment. I've attempted suicide three times due my severe PTSD. Being selfish has nothing to do with it. All you want to do is stop the constant pain and anguish.
Starscream91 selfish how? bc their pain inconveniences others? bc they don’t want to continue to suffer in a shell of their self for the convenience of people around them
@@JakeisSick56 You're missing the point. People don't kill themselves to "look good". That's the issue you have? Maybe your issue should be to understand how to fix the problem if you're really gonna worry about suicide. It's not about being a victim it's just being honest that you are either physically or mentally ill or deficient and don't know how to fix it in a way that will make life bearable or positive to yourself or others. The brain is an organ. It's a physical part of your body. Like it or not, issues with your brain or other physical aspects of yourself can cause extreme anguish to the point of people wanting to kill themselves! Shaming people who feel at this point does nothing to actually fix the issue. That'd be like if your doctor mocked you when you come in sick looking for some type of medical treatment.
@@JakeisSick56 You don't have to support someone who killed themselves, because they are already gone lol. You should support yourself and stop judging others for issues you know nothing about :)
in a way i think suicide chooses YOU, you don't choose IT. I was once travelling by train and thought about throwing myself in front of a train,, it wasn't planned, just spontaneous, you are not thinking straight you don't even care that you might survive hideously crippled. Most people are ignorant fools who should count themselves lucky that they've never experienced the torture of suicidal depression.
"Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do"..... and up until one week ago I actually believe that. Last Friday Night, my brother, took his own life by hanging himself in his garage. For the last 2 years I tried to work with my brother through a terrible marriage break-up, the loss of his children, falling into a terrible financial crisis, and to top it all off, recently learning he was going to be discharged from the military and not because he wanted to. "My brother would never have the stomach to take his own life", yeah that's something I also believed up until 1 week ago. I had the opportunity this week to have somebody reach out to me that was in communication with my brother for the last two days of his life. I myself spoke with my brother about two or three times every week, until over the last couple of months when he had begun to cut me off. I always try to be a good older brother and I did the thing that older brothers do. Things like pushing him to fight back, to stand on his own two feet and make the right choices. I knew he was in pain, but obviously I didn't know the degree of pain he was actually in, I missed it. This person was communicating with my brother for the last two days of his life, and because of that, I was fortunate enough to have this person send me the entire transcript of all their text messages over his last two days, text is how they primarily communicated. As I read those texts I felt like I was walking with him through those last hours. Although I couldn't feel it, I could hear the pain in his words. My brother had an amazing love for his kids, but at this point in his life he was down to periodic visits from two of his five children. The Last Words My brother ever spoke were, " a few more beer and I hope I'm all done.... I don't know what to do..... my youngest is supposed to be coming over tomorrow for the weekend" Standing on this side of his death those words speak volumes to me. He did think of his youngest child in the end and I know my brother would never in a million years have wanted his youngest child, 11 years old, to walk in and discover his body, but that is what happened. I knew exactly what he meant by that, he was going to end his life and he didn't want his youngest child discovering him. Knowing what my brother was like and the love that he had for his children I came to the realization that the level of pain he was in with so great that even the thought of his child was not enough to stop him, in the end the pain won. Tomorrow we have his funeral, it's going to be a very hard day. My advice to anybody is listen, and listen well, to those that you love. My brother was not a suicidal person by nature, it's something that we never dealt with in our family before, yet here we are. This has given me a completely new perspective into the pain he must have been suffering. How much pain does it take inside of a person that they are willing to walk into their garage, fix a rope, and end their life? Everybody has intrinsic value to their life. This week there has been an incredible amount of outpouring of condolences and support to those that knew and loved my brother. I only wish he could have seen just how many people really did care before he decided to go.
So many people need you to behave in a certain way for them to feel good. They condemn you for your selfishness. “How dare you be so selfish as to follow what makes you feel good? You should follow what makes us feel good.” Well, isn't that just as selfish?
The description in this video is completely accurate. Anyone who say's suicide is "weak" most likely have little idea of what is going on in a person's mind to think about suicide as a legitimate option. It's not as if it's a good alternative to commit suicide, but the only option to end the suffering.Instead of judging, empathize with those who are suffering, no matter what their situation.
People who murder, rape, steal , beat, destroy people for there own selfish needs are never called selfish are weak. But when a person decides they don't want to live anymore and offs them self they are selfish?! It's selfish to kill someone cause they break up with you. It's selfish to rape someone against there own will. Yes I understand that it's technical selfish to kill your self but if they are not harming anyone but themselves then why so much.. stigma?
@@mrfunatparties6763 people who commit suicide because of prolonged mental illness, especially if it's very severe and hard to treat, are not being selfish they're being logical.
@@JD-hx7yd wouldn't that make the family selfish because they hold someone against there will, like how a kidnapper begs for his/her victim not to leave
Man you hit the nail on the head and said all the right things. I am one of those people who can't STAND when others say that suicide is selfish, it makes me incredibly furious and I don't know how a person can think that. Chalk it up to ignorance or being unable to put yourself in somebody else shoes, sure, but you think someone would put more thought into making such rude and even selfish comments. It's like they say, you're hurting others, your loved ones. What about those who don't even have loved ones? What if you have literally NO ONE left, everyone around you doesn't care, you can't connect, what then? Who are you leaving behind then. Also if you are just staying alive to make others happy, does it not become selfish on their half to keep you in misery just for their sake? Anyways, great video man, you described things greatly.
suicide is weak, selfish? well, that's an emotion, something i don't care for, if someone is weak enough to want to kill themselves, they should. go ahead. i have been depressed and not wanting to live, but ending my own life would be stupid as fuck. this is why i will be strong, i hide my emotions to try and make others happy, even if, i, myself am fucked up i didn't care, while i was in society (i've since left, it was too annoying for me to keep up.) i noticed that if you act like a complete idiot and make others happy they will continue wanting that, which is why i left society. i took pain pills when i had any problem just because "pain" annoys me and pisses me off, now, i don't use the word "selfish" as it is, it's completely irrelevant to any conversation and every human is selfish as it is, so what's the point of throwing it around like it's bad? but, not all humans are weak, there are also strong humans, people like amanda todd, the chick who oh no got some nudes "leaked" on the internet and had a few hundred or so basement dwellers masturbate furiously over them, amanda todd is weak, nothing else. also, "moral" people are the types of weak humans who i hate the most, not only do they believe they are "right" for having morals they are also more arrogant then those with no care for morals or emotion. i always found moral people more fun to break then anything. because breaking them shows how weak they truly are.
I got told off for being selfish for attempting suicide (a few weeks back). Maybe I am selfish, but no one knows what I go through every day of my life. I just shared this on my social media accounts. Thank you for articulating what I can never say to others. Honestly, thank you.
I can't thank you enough for this video. I've been there, and still have periods of severe depression. You put everything I have a hard time expressing into words that anyone can understand. Just.. Thank you for this.
I do not know what you are going though but no just remember that their will always be people hoping and praying for you and you will do great thing thank you for still staying with us
I'm having all those symptoms but I have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia so it's not just major depression. Suicide is an act of honor when someone can't take it anymore, I believe that no one wants to die, but some people just can't go on with severe symptoms for too long and it happens, sadly, it's not selfish.
+Bitcoin DreamTeam ... oops. i actually meant the other way around. i wonder how many people with depression...have been diagnosed with fibro.? I've been dealing with both for 20+ years.
I don't understand you sorry. There are people that suffer with depression only and there are that either have depression or FMS or both. Depression does not come with the symptomatology seen in FMS, except the fatigue so basically none. It's a serious mental illness. In my case major depression came right after fibromiagia kicked in.
+Bitcoin DreamTeam the experts hand found a link between low serotonin ( seen in depression) and fibromyalgia...though they don't understand why yet. i believe fibro is a symptom of low serotonin...since serotonin is a feel good neurotransmitter...i believe the severe hyper sensitive nervous system of the fibro sufferer, is a byproduct of the low serotonin, and dare i say, low dopamine too. just my thoughts and reasoning. serotonin controls pain levels or the dealing with pain to a certain extent...as well...avid low serotonin it's usually linked with low dopamine too. i believe fibro is a nervous system malfunction due to screwed up neurotransmitters and the balance of them.
2 months ago, I considered suicide the most self centered, selfish, most self pitying thing a person could do. I thought that if anyone cared about you then there is no reason you should even consider it. Then JewWario died... I didn't know what to think, JewWario was not a selfish person, how could he do this? He just did it out of nowhere, his wife was standing outside of the door telling him to stop but he still decided to take his own life. I couldn't believe it, I didn't 't know what to think... But this helped a lot. It was wrong for me to assume that I knew what it was like to deal with depression. It was wrong for me to talk about something I didn't know about. I never knew how much it tortured these people, and I feel sorry. So thank you so much for this.
I'm 23. I've had an anxiety disorder as far back as I can remember, and I've probably been suffering from long and intermittent episodes of severe MDD since I was about 13. This bout has been with me for about 2 years now. Thank you for speaking out for all of us.
This is why I don't like how people say: ''Some people don't have food or anything, be grateful. Your pain is nothing like it.'' Thats not the point... :l
This is one of the best videos you've done. I've never been suicidal but you've explained it very well Noah. This video was RAW, honest, and JewWario would be proud.
The idea that suicide is a selfish act is beyond idiotic. For some people who feel like they are not in control of their lives, it takes courage to pull that trigger. It takes a mountain of self-esteem to decide you would rather take your own life than to allow society to bleed it out of you first. Isn't deciding when to die a fundamental right a person should have? Can't we be allowed to make that decision when you consider that none of us chose to exist in the first place?
You dumb bitches condoning suicide are sick. People like you, and people in the mainstream media glamorizing suicide is part of why they think it's okay and think they can just solve a temporary issue with one last move.
Your to dumb to realize all issues arent temporary. Think a little more critically? um terminal cancer for one is not a temporary problem..Its a permanent death sentence period and they have good reason not to want to suffer a long painful death tha will nly feed the medical community which will prolong their suffering until they are bed ridden in intense pain unable to do anything for themselves and having their ases wiped by strangers..Yah think of that for a moment let it in before you spout such bullshit. Your not in this position now but if you ever where you would not be saying this I can assure you of that.
I'm in the thick of it right now. I've been depressed since childhood and am almost 30 now. My family mocks me openly for feeling this down. Suicide isn't selfish it's a way out. I can't fight anymore.
When I was suicidal, I thought that it was more selfish to stay alive because I knew I was worrying / upsetting the people around me. I decided that they would be better off without me.
I agree, I give more trouble to the people while I am alive than if I would be gone. That makes it even harder to keep on fighting. I have a new tattoo since 1,5 week: Never stop building
I remember going through depression shortly after my grandma died. Unfortunately this was around the same time I discovered drugs. An entire year and a half of my life is nothing but a blur, I refused to be sober, I just wanted to be numb. It's horrible man, and like it was said in this video, you can't truly understand it if you've never gone through it.
Jack Tucker Don't worry, this certainly isn't the first time I've been told something similar. When you put yourself out there, people lash out hoping to hurt you. It doesn't bother me anymore, just another annoying gnat.
I think that making promises that life will get better for others, people really need to listen to the person first. No one has a right to make empty platitudes without first hearing out the suicidal person's story and reasoning. I think the helper should help the victim towards getting better one step at a time but also be patient with the person and respect boundaries. Actually both parties should be patient and respect boundaries and work towards a mutual understanding. Depression is an illness and people need to realize that part. Sometimes depression just is. It doesn't warrant an explanation.
when my best friend lost his 9 month old.. i didn't know what to say to him... i evaluated it over and over, and all i had was "bro, this is fucked up... if you need anything from a shoulder to a driver in a bank heist... i'm there. i'm so fucking there bro." and... even that wasn't the justice of how i felt.. there is nothing you can say, cause everything effects everyone different. and your last statement, about not warranting a reason... amazing. thank you.
Brandon James I'm glad that was helpful for you! I had a friend really upset that his grandfather died and he was on the verge of tears, I didn't know what to say. I felt it wasn't my place anyways. I just gave him a hug because it was the only thing that felt appropriate. Loosing a 9 month year old would be terrible. I wouldn't have a response either.
Depression is not necessarily an illness. Great stress and agony can bring grief and suffering. That does not make it a disease at all, simply a natural reaction to prolonged pain. The cliche is over done improperly. Sometimes depression is a result of mental/emotional illness. Sometimes it is a normal healthy response to stress.
The people who say that it's selfish constitute a (not "the") reason why people commit suicide. People who are suicidal need to find a reason to live, they don't need to hear how they are "selfish" for failing to find a reason to live any longer (and often they feel as if they are a burden on others).
Well said. Also brings to mind how often times a suicidal person might be privileged and seem to "have everything". Never tell a severely depressed person that they shouldn't feel that way since they have it so much better than a lot of people. This will just add more guilt to their suffering. The fog of depression makes these things meaningless and not enjoyable. A person living below the poverty line can be perfectly happy and a billionaire can feel absolutely miserable.
That’s what I just commented. They are the problem for sure and they refuse to admit it. They refuse to admit their words are harsh and wrong and terrible to tell anyone
You know what's sad...when your own mother says that you have no right to be depressed cause other people are suffering more it just makes me feel like shit...
I can't understand why people think that someone would commit suicide for attention. The person is fucking dead, why the fuck would he or she kill themselves for attention? They're dead and unaware that you're even at their funeral. It bothers me how ignorant and illogical people can be.
Those people who are lucky enough to never feel suicidal, have no right to speak on the matter when it comes to being selfish. If anything, they're selfish for wanting the person who is suffering, to keep suffering.
They're not even being selfish, just completely ignorant. They truly believe that it is something every person can just fight through. How could they be anything else but ignorant? You can't understand something you never experienced.
tried twice. been depressed for 16 years on and off. mine feels a little different than what you describe. i'm happy someone is trying to reach out. i've been in this state for about a year and a half minus a few days. i'm trying real hard to keep going and to keep fighting, but it's a losing fight overall. no jobs available, friends are ignoring me, i hate my family, dealing with alcoholism, it's hard.
I agree the mindset of suicide feels as an immense amount of burden that you carry. I wish I was one of those people who were born happy and cheerful or perhaps not even born at all.
Amen. I've never had depression myself, but you gave me a better understanding of it. Great video and I'm glad I took 14 minutes out of my day to watch this great video
the sad reality is that people neglect the vast majority of suicides are people of broken homes, those who have been sexually/physically abused, women and men that have been raped, gay men and women for being judged and not liked by others, and children who have been bullied all their life... its as though people neglect these perpetrators so that these people can carry on with their horrible crimes...
I too have been in such dark places and it’s beyond horrible... 10 years ago my uncle took his own life. Rather than using the phrase “took his own life” which can sound somewhat reckless and thoughtless, I instead think of it as him “ending his own suffering” which I believe has connotations of empowerment. I’m by no means praising what he did, but I understand why he did what he did. It was the pain he was experiencing that drove him to it, and as you know, intense and unrelenting pain can be hard to shake off. Thanks for another great video Noah! 👍🏻
I remember when I was battling depression and I remember it being so much worse because I was pretty well off and there wasn't really anything wrong with my life at the time and I felt so so horribly because I couldn't understand why I felt the way I did when there are other people who have it much worse than me who aren't depressed. It was like a giant weight on top of something that's already high pressure...
PTSD, major depressive disorder, major anxiety, I'm szcitzo, and yet, I'm told to get over it. Not anymore. Thank you for explaining the fog (numbness) and physical pain. I'm sorry.
I agree 100% with you. I'm tired of people who have never experienced this stuff judging me. You don't know what a persons been threw. I'm suicidal dew to mental illness, abuse, bulling, ect. But, I'm not trying to judge the people who judge, I just want them to put themselves in my shoes.
another great point. u can feel physically sick from depression, Ive felt like my heart is going to stop beating, and it feels heavy, cold, and numb. I believe that's why so many religions and spiritualities talk about the heart in terms of emotions
Thanks ! I tried to show my mom this video and she said it was a load of bull crap ! She told me I was selfish and I just wanted her attention . I have been to that place I talk to someone because of it . I just am happy someone other that me knows that I was not being selfish .Thanks for the video!
This was great. Im glad you put this out, hopefully people will stop being so closed minded about this touchy subject. My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced depression or suicidal thoughts and my heart goes out to the people who couldn't bear the pain any longer.
Thank you for this video. I've never suffered from depression, but I have a friend who has some really bad ups and downs. I always thought he should get over it, but now I know it's much, much harder than that. It helped open my eyes. It really makes me grateful for what I have.
Powerful video - It is difficult for family and loved ones to know how to be supportive and say the right things to the one who is suffering. This video does get to the heart of the mater and I found it very helpful. thanks for your brutal honesty. For anyone who was offended consider that this message was coming from the person on this earth you love the most - and they are trying to help you understand the pain they feel.
This video is so truly amazing that I just had to comment... I feel like sending this to my family so that they can see what I'm going through. You explained this perfectly, better than I could've even attempted to explain.
This was the first video I've ever seen of yours. Very well said, dude.You nailed it. I thankfully never had to deal with the anxiety issues, so my experience was a little different, but there's one important thing to remember: We're all in this together :)
Suicide a good thing! For long term chronic sufferers of mental illness I see death as the only realistic viable option. It is a precious gift! Of course, anyone who does not have a mental illness will not relate, I totally understand that. They will advise you to continue to suffer without offering any realistic option. However, I would always choose a quality of life over a quantity of life. I figure after a lifetime of agony, any action is better than no action. Nobody knows what happens when we die, but what we do know is, that where we are at now is not tolerable. Suicide is not selfish or weak, it's a way of trying to end pain. I've never understood the point of endless suffering. IMO when ones quality of life is gone..... life is no longer worth it..... honestly, what is the point of hanging on??
That is such a fucking stupid statement in my opinion nothing that a normal person can go through if they live a pretty normal life could never end in suicide. Suicide because of depression is stupid. POWs would fight to survive even though their life were a living hell and were slaves depression will never be an answer.
Jared Lafever Once the quality of life is gone & is not coming back there is nothing worth hanging onto IMO. However, everyone experiences depression differently
It's really annoying when people just expect you to "get over it" or "just be positive" and they think that depression is just being really sad but it's a completely different beast that that, and you can't convey that to a person who's not been there.
+RedNinjaKnight eh, but it's not the same pain though. Probably the pain they are feeling is the financial pain! HAHAHA! They have to deal with the funeral costs and such.
Watching this brought tears to my eyes. Thank you ever so much for making this. It saddens me to know that there is so much stigma in our society when it comes mental illness. Regular people couldn't even fathom what it's like to live with this every single day, and for the remainder of one's life. People need to learn to put themselves in other people's shoes before speaking on something that they know nothing about. Believe it or not, showing compassion towards someone going through this could potentially save their life.
KyAngela A very common issue that needs to change. The lack of understanding from even those we would consider the closest to us can be so demoralizing. Never forget you are not alone.
Fitzymagic Just look up basically any youtube video on depression other than his and you will see the ignorance. th-cam.com/video/IgCpa1RlSdQ/w-d-xo.html This video literally tries to claim that there is no evidence of depression being real and calls it a "bad day". And far too many people believe this. It's stigmatized to the point where people attack the very individuals that have it simply because they have a problem with the pharmaceutical sector.
Fitzymagic ikr all those "depressed" people are trudging through life and hoping the pain will stop so that they can get sympathy from people who don't understand the pain which forces them deeper into a pit of dispair.*sarcasm*
I can’t believe how you nailed it. The pain is unbearable. I was asked today To give one reason why I shouldn’t walk into the night.. my response was “There is no reason why I shouldn’t take that walk”. He then said, “you can’t think of one?”, I replied, “..there isn’t one”
I've been moderately depressed in a few long periods of my life. What you described is exactly what it was like for me. I felt like I was forced to get up and perform life...but all I got was being completely lethargic and empty inside. It's like your brain can't produce serotonin and your eyes never focus on anything because life is such a blurr. You can't just tell someone to snap out of it or to do something about it, or to grow up or stop being a puss. Depression doesn't care if your a musician or a famous actor or an athlete. Most of all great comedians have suffered or is going through deep depression. Shhhittt... I was only moderately depressed, I can't and don't want to imagine if it got any worse. My best suggestion "and im no professional for sure" is if you enjoy doing something that occupies your mind and time especially outside of work, then by all means do it! R.I.P. Justin "JewWario".
I am having suicidal ideas and I am THAT close to do it right this time, tried two times before and failed for some weird shit, It's not about work at this point, it's not about ex or about religious issues, this is the point I am seeing blank and really every cell in my aches, I am not afraid of Death, I am a bit scared of what's beyond that one way ticket, and I am having no fear of it. Eternal Hell? torment and all of this fucking shit, I am having no problem with it, I have been to the lowest shit holes in any human life, I am silent all day and avoiding people and friends, I witnessed the death of the closest persons to me, I am not asking the world for respect, love, understanding or anything, and I don't want anyone to feel sympathetic for me, sometimes I think, imagine some scientist watching a mouse in a maze, the mouse is going places, fighting, doing all it takes but for what? what IF that mouse can end his own life? would the "one" watching not be enough entertained, Naaa, bring in another mouse and let the show go on. I saw the video, thank you for the comment and I can see a life in your eyes my friend, I can see it cause I lost that eye look long ago, I can see it in a random news paper someone else where I come from died, really not a big deal - even in the book I grew up to it's mentioned that we humans are worthless at some point - I could see it bignoknow, I can see myself wit a big hole in the head starring at the truth spoiling the fun, maybe I am heavy a bit to carry they would drag me but seriously does it matter? what's there to fight for? I can't see a thing worth it, all I can feel is the pain ending for the time being, maybe later I end up in hell, sometimes I feel IF I end up in a place better than Hell that all the living would object like "HOW DARE YOU GOD TO ALLOW HIM IN!!". I don't know how much is left for me in this form, but it feels a bit, just a bit good, to know I can control how I can end my life and IF I survive with a hole in my head from a magnum, I will take a penny for every time someone sees it, thank you for your efforts my friend I don't know.
I just got done with a 90 day treatment for Alcohol abuse, found your channel tonight. First time reaching out for help, and first time seeing a psychiatrist. I was diagnosed with MDD, it made a lot of things in my life make sense. Thanks for the video, its spot on.
Joseph Dowling Sounds like such a petty god. "See I told you nanana" Reminds me of the story of Job. Don't live life in a self imposed prison mate, you are free, which is both a curse and a blessing.
this is one of the best videos i have ever seen on how it feels to go on with depression for what feels like a lifetime. you can feel moments of happiness, even be happy, but the relapse back into that dark place, is so easy and how you explain that daily fight and feeling is so great. this meant a lot to me to see this today. been a rough 2 weeks. thank you.
Imagine that your life is a room on the top floor of the building. You are living in that room. There is an invisible fire in that room, the fire is a depression. The depression is setting your whole life on fire, you are burning, it hurts, you are unable to stop the fire, it seems neverending. Then there are people in their not-burning rooms telling you to smile a little bit, because they don't see the fire, they don't know the pain you feel. Okay, so you can't take it, your room is on fire for so long, it is too much, so you jump from your window and it kills you. You don't want necessarily to die, you just don't want to be in that burning room anymore. And then there are people in their safe rooms assuming that you are selfish, weak and the thing you did is so painful for people around you and that it couldn't be that bad at all... Where's the logic?
K but does killing yourself actually free you of pain, no it doesn’t cause you won’t have a body or a brain or a heart or nerves to feel happiness, it just takes the pain and passes it on to people around you. It doesn’t help, it hurts you and others
I'm subbing :). This was the perfect definition of a suicidal/depressed persons mental mind set. I'm 13 years old and was diagnosed by a doctor at 9 with depression, because of childhood memories, bullying and because both of my parents had depression. It increased and I have attempted, put Into several hospital, put on medicine and it had risen to MDD, ANA, Insomnia, OCD, Anixety etc; I thank you so much for this video and I will watch many more of your videos to come :)
Thank you SOOO much for this!! This is incredibly motivating and reassuring. As a sufferer of severe depression myself, and having experienced close ones around me express that suicide and suicide attempts are "selfish", it's so refreshing for you to explain the situation in such an insightful way. So I thank you so much and I wish u all the best in ur recovery Xxx
Thank you so much for this video! I hope that people with this horrible, dark sickness will find your channel to understand that they are not alone. Accually it is a very common sickness and yet, still so shameful and taboo... And this is what makes me so sad... and mad! The shame has to disapear. Depression is a sickness. Like my doctor said; "Would you blame yourself or feel shame for getting amonia or the flue?" It is the same with depression. It is a sickness, it is something that needs to be treated and no one is to blame for getting it.
OMG.... Thank you for doing this!! I've been trying to explain this way to my friends and family! They have no idea how I feel! Thank you thank you! I'm definitely sharing!!
This is the most accurate description of severe depression that I have ever stumbled across on the net. Kudos to you. I want to show this video to the few good friends I have so that they can kind of see how things feel like for me whenever I'm going through it.
"You're going to Hell" sounds pretty redundant to someone dealing with depression and suicidal thoughts. I think that's probably the dumbest thing you can say next to accusing them of being selfish. There's a huge difference between people who threaten suicide to get what they want (like an ex) and someone who genuinely is about to kill themselves. The former is selfish, the latter certainly isn't.
I feel like i'm a worthless mess and i need someone to talk to. That's why i swear that if i ever meet someone who feels like this i will help them in anyway i can!
i say that everyday..if it wasent for them id fucking toss my ass into a speeding car so fucking fast...its a curse and a blessing that we have family.. they tie us to earth in a sense of guilt and love...
So how do i help someone who is going through this? if all my words get lost in the fog,if every action i take and every support i give has no effect. If nothing i can do will make them forget about the pain for even the slightlest. Just what can i do?
There are so many who suffer like us. But You are the one with the voice, and kudos to You for it, my friend. For there is one thing depressed person can sometimes seek and that is understanding. Thank You for making the effort to let others try to fathom it. I personally wish there was a machine which would induce a severe depression in healthy ignorant individuals (I too used to be the one). I think one minute would be enough. Being dead seems to be great luxury in the state of being depressed. The question "why some of depressed people commit suicide" should be exchanged to "why not ALL depressed ppl commit it". And the answer is that we all have the instinct of life/survival. About vision of hell - that indeed makes suffering worse. Because you already feel like you're in hell and now have perspective of being in that state forever after suicide. Cheers and keep up the great work.
It was selfish and weak act from our parents to put us on the earth in the first place, an act that ended with aaaaaaaaahhhh..... We had no choice in that. So if we choose ourselves to leave and you think it is weak and selfish that is ok. I know you do not know better, and i do not blame you for that. But do not blame us for being menthally sick and want out. But most certainly, don't come up with religious shit, that is no help at all. We need a long lasting ear and compassion. Were we mostly not the most intelligent and compassionate carefull people ourselves in our good time? Do not judge us
The process of childbirth is selfish and weak? Wanting to bring a child and raise it to see it grow and be happy is selfish? You sound like some black haired, tattooed, body piercing wearing. Sappy band. I get the rest of what you're saying, but do you honestly believe that people bring children into the world to be selfish?
What I think she's saying is that she didn't choose to enter this world, and she doesn't appreciate being forced to continue to struggle through constant pain
That's Tradharinos it's really anoyng, when idiots like you call other people idiots for telling this truth. It's absolut selfish absurd from your parents to just put you in a world so fucked up, that people kill themselves
i wil be depressed for the rest of my life BUT !! i have a reason to live my daughter iam in hell 24/7 365days a year but still my daughter keeps me alive no matter what
Your videos have touched my heart. I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my soul. Please keep making videos. I will watch them as long as you make them. I am a fighter just like you.
Can anybody tell me how to contact Noah?? it's really important I really need to communicate with him but I can't send him an email I don't No where he post his email address and I can't send private messages on TH-cam because I think you to take that option out I could only write comments on here if anybody can please help me thank you
+jewels beltran Medication and therapy can help. Sometimes you have to be patient and try several therapists and meds until you find the right combination/dosage etc...
False hope over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over..., and yet, you are still supposed to have hope or else you are being selfish. Now who is being selfish?
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The most selfish thing in the world is to whine about how someone else's pain is inconvenient for you.
Love this comment.
Exactly!
I love u for this
I want to hug the shit out of you for this
I not against you... I actually honestly want your opinion because I have thought a lot about what you just said... My best friend is severally depressed. I believe its a selfish depression as in she's only worried about herself. I deal with her crying about nothing everyday. I try so hard to love and be there for her.. But now she's pushing those who love her away.. Which is expected from most mental illnesses.. But she's been in this cycle where she blames it all on other people. She sometimes says she's trying to change but then doesn't really make an effort. I'm Christian and I have taken her to youth group and she just wont give up her selfish way of thinking. Its a confusing thing, human behavior. But am I in the wrong for just not being able to take it anymore?? I'm being emotionally drained everyday of my young high school life. Is it actually selfish for me to step away from the people who hurt my mental health disregarding theirs? I'm only 16 yet expected to hold the pain of her problems with no question... It is an inconvenient thing for me as I deal with this stress and rollercoaster ride everyday of my life.. Its easy to say "If you were a real friend you would put up with it and never leave her side" but really try and be open minded here. I'm just trying to get an opinion from a different thought process.
I use to silently judge suicidal people. Until I was the suicidal one. This video is so spot on. People don't know what it's like, they think they know but they don't.
Yeah me too its interesting
"Don't want to die, but don't want to be in pain anymore." Perfect description. Thank you.
Rich R Thank you right back for reaching out.
@@bignoknow worst one I hear is sucide is "chemical imbalance " but 90 percent of the time they might of tsh level problem tsh in the brain
Everytime people say sucuide is selfish it pisses me off
GreasyMen Me too!!!!
Byron Lloyd you might have a severe social anxiety issue like i do, i found out later to be high functioning autistic.. but i hate every social situation, unless i guide the parameters... i wish you nothing but lucky in this crazy world.
adhd ocd mild schizophrenia, massive anxiety leading to uncontrollable rage, self mutilation, deprecation, addictions to drugs, and full term daily dose of 9 different meds. just walk slow brother... "life hands people hard cards, its up to us to know how to play the game" someone told me that one day.. i think i ended up punching him.
If it pisses you off, it's your problem.
I have been suffering from depersonalization for more than half of my life...I never thought to end my life in those times, BUT....additionally I got a transmitted disease from an ex-partner that is forever in my body. It feels like everything is burning inside.
I don't agree when people say "Suicide is a selfish act" Isn't it the same when you prevent someone from committing the act though they're the one suffering?
+TheBenchmarkBrothers I think it all depends on the way in which suicide is prevented. If it's done with the person's health in mind, it's not selfish. Perhaps saying this is a tad too optimistic, but in any case I've seen, suicide has been a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If you try to help the person so that they can work towards a happy life, it's not selfish. In my personal experience, I've had a significant other with severe attachment issues stemming from maldevelopment in her childhood; I've contemplated suicide but stopped myself knowing that I'm still needed. I hold myself responsible in that regard because I was still lucid; if I had been farther down that road then I was (i.e. hysterical), I think it would have been much less my responsibility. It's selfish to prevent a suicide if it's only because you don't want to deal with the loss. It's not selfish if you want to help the person. The act of suicide is really only a selfish act when you're functioning at an approximately normal level. If you're experiencing psychosis or are past the point of maintaining any normal function, I don't think it's your fault for planning, attempting, or committing suicide.
It is not selfish to stop it. You r weird to say that. Ur promoting ppl ending their lives and breaking ppls hearts. Idc if this is 8 years ago ur utterly disgusting
Profoundly accurate assessment. I've attempted suicide three times due my severe PTSD. Being selfish has nothing to do with it. All you want to do is stop the constant pain and anguish.
Yes, so very selfish to want to stop the pain. No wonder you like Starscream.
Starscream91 selfish how? bc their pain inconveniences others? bc they don’t want to continue to suffer in a shell of their self for the convenience of people around them
@@JakeisSick56 You're missing the point. People don't kill themselves to "look good". That's the issue you have? Maybe your issue should be to understand how to fix the problem if you're really gonna worry about suicide. It's not about being a victim it's just being honest that you are either physically or mentally ill or deficient and don't know how to fix it in a way that will make life bearable or positive to yourself or others. The brain is an organ. It's a physical part of your body. Like it or not, issues with your brain or other physical aspects of yourself can cause extreme anguish to the point of people wanting to kill themselves! Shaming people who feel at this point does nothing to actually fix the issue. That'd be like if your doctor mocked you when you come in sick looking for some type of medical treatment.
@@JakeisSick56 You don't have to support someone who killed themselves, because they are already gone lol. You should support yourself and stop judging others for issues you know nothing about :)
My sister told me suicide is selfish, but turned around and said she cant take talking to me unless I can "do positive".
Thank you for making this video. Seeing so many comments judging Justin has really upset me. Thank you for making it clear for people to understand.
The most accurate description of severe depression I've ever heard....
I've been there... And I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Ever..
You're probably 13
@@devinlewton7976 shut up nerd
@@devinlewton7976 bro kids kill themselves too, it’s probably not as much as let’s say 23 year olds but they still die from suicide.
in a way i think suicide chooses YOU, you don't choose IT.
I was once travelling by train and thought about throwing myself in front of a train,, it wasn't planned, just spontaneous, you are not thinking straight you don't even care that you might survive hideously crippled. Most people are ignorant fools who should count themselves lucky that they've never experienced the torture of suicidal depression.
yup. how ironic those of us who r the best r in this hell. he must really love and know how loyal we r.
weak
+GriefTourist Maybe you should think more of your fellowman .
GriefTourist I don't think that was just suddenly being suicidal, it sounded like a panic attack.
So fucking wrong
"Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do"..... and up until one week ago I actually believe that. Last Friday Night, my brother, took his own life by hanging himself in his garage. For the last 2 years I tried to work with my brother through a terrible marriage break-up, the loss of his children, falling into a terrible financial crisis, and to top it all off, recently learning he was going to be discharged from the military and not because he wanted to.
"My brother would never have the stomach to take his own life", yeah that's something I also believed up until 1 week ago. I had the opportunity this week to have somebody reach out to me that was in communication with my brother for the last two days of his life. I myself spoke with my brother about two or three times every week, until over the last couple of months when he had begun to cut me off. I always try to be a good older brother and I did the thing that older brothers do. Things like pushing him to fight back, to stand on his own two feet and make the right choices. I knew he was in pain, but obviously I didn't know the degree of pain he was actually in, I missed it.
This person was communicating with my brother for the last two days of his life, and because of that, I was fortunate enough to have this person send me the entire transcript of all their text messages over his last two days, text is how they primarily communicated. As I read those texts I felt like I was walking with him through those last hours. Although I couldn't feel it, I could hear the pain in his words. My brother had an amazing love for his kids, but at this point in his life he was down to periodic visits from two of his five children.
The Last Words My brother ever spoke were, " a few more beer and I hope I'm all done.... I don't know what to do..... my youngest is supposed to be coming over tomorrow for the weekend"
Standing on this side of his death those words speak volumes to me. He did think of his youngest child in the end and I know my brother would never in a million years have wanted his youngest child, 11 years old, to walk in and discover his body, but that is what happened. I knew exactly what he meant by that, he was going to end his life and he didn't want his youngest child discovering him. Knowing what my brother was like and the love that he had for his children I came to the realization that the level of pain he was in with so great that even the thought of his child was not enough to stop him, in the end the pain won.
Tomorrow we have his funeral, it's going to be a very hard day. My advice to anybody is listen, and listen well, to those that you love. My brother was not a suicidal person by nature, it's something that we never dealt with in our family before, yet here we are. This has given me a completely new perspective into the pain he must have been suffering. How much pain does it take inside of a person that they are willing to walk into their garage, fix a rope, and end their life? Everybody has intrinsic value to their life. This week there has been an incredible amount of outpouring of condolences and support to those that knew and loved my brother. I only wish he could have seen just how many people really did care before he decided to go.
I'm sorry for your loss Paul.
Sorry for your loss paul........
I hope you recovered
So many people need you to behave in a certain way for them to feel good. They condemn you for your selfishness. “How dare you be so selfish as to follow what makes you feel good? You should follow what makes us feel good.” Well, isn't that just as selfish?
The most painful thing is finding "freedom" in the thought of suicide... 😢
The description in this video is completely accurate.
Anyone who say's suicide is "weak" most likely have little idea of what is going on in a person's mind to think about suicide as a legitimate option. It's not as if it's a good alternative to commit suicide, but the only option to end the suffering.Instead of judging, empathize with those who are suffering, no matter what their situation.
People who murder, rape, steal , beat, destroy people for there own selfish needs are never called selfish are weak. But when a person decides they don't want to live anymore and offs them self they are selfish?!
It's selfish to kill someone cause they break up with you.
It's selfish to rape someone against there own will.
Yes I understand that it's technical selfish to kill your self but if they are not harming anyone but themselves then why so much..
stigma?
Jack Solo who says they are not weak and selfish. Even those who just steal candy are selfish and weak
@@mrfunatparties6763 people who commit suicide because of prolonged mental illness, especially if it's very severe and hard to treat, are not being selfish they're being logical.
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But is their logic if you have a family? No.
@@JD-hx7yd wouldn't that make the family selfish because they hold someone against there will, like how a kidnapper begs for his/her victim not to leave
@@Tabby3456
But it's for the benefit of the family member.
Man you hit the nail on the head and said all the right things. I am one of those people who can't STAND when others say that suicide is selfish, it makes me incredibly furious and I don't know how a person can think that. Chalk it up to ignorance or being unable to put yourself in somebody else shoes, sure, but you think someone would put more thought into making such rude and even selfish comments. It's like they say, you're hurting others, your loved ones. What about those who don't even have loved ones? What if you have literally NO ONE left, everyone around you doesn't care, you can't connect, what then? Who are you leaving behind then. Also if you are just staying alive to make others happy, does it not become selfish on their half to keep you in misery just for their sake? Anyways, great video man, you described things greatly.
***** We are on the same page!
suicide is weak, selfish? well, that's an emotion, something i don't care for, if someone is weak enough to want to kill themselves, they should. go ahead. i have been depressed and not wanting to live, but ending my own life would be stupid as fuck. this is why i will be strong, i hide my emotions to try and make others happy, even if, i, myself am fucked up i didn't care, while i was in society (i've since left, it was too annoying for me to keep up.) i noticed that if you act like a complete idiot and make others happy they will continue wanting that, which is why i left society. i took pain pills when i had any problem just because "pain" annoys me and pisses me off, now, i don't use the word "selfish" as it is, it's completely irrelevant to any conversation and every human is selfish as it is, so what's the point of throwing it around like it's bad? but, not all humans are weak, there are also strong humans, people like amanda todd, the chick who oh no got some nudes "leaked" on the internet and had a few hundred or so basement dwellers masturbate furiously over them, amanda todd is weak, nothing else. also, "moral" people are the types of weak humans who i hate the most, not only do they believe they are "right" for having morals they are also more arrogant then those with no care for morals or emotion. i always found moral people more fun to break then anything. because breaking them shows how weak they truly are.
Naaah. Not when he says those people don't wanna die. But for the rest, I see what you guys mean.
I got told off for being selfish for attempting suicide (a few weeks back). Maybe I am selfish, but no one knows what I go through every day of my life. I just shared this on my social media accounts. Thank you for articulating what I can never say to others. Honestly, thank you.
the dork knight You are welcome and for what its worth, I am glad you are still here and wishing you the peace of mind you deserve.
I can't thank you enough for this video. I've been there, and still have periods of severe depression. You put everything I have a hard time expressing into words that anyone can understand. Just.. Thank you for this.
MsShadowPaint Sorry for your suffering and you are so very welcome.
I do not know what you are going though but no just remember that their will always be people hoping and praying for you and you will do great thing thank you for still staying with us
I'm having all those symptoms but I have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia so it's not just major depression. Suicide is an act of honor when someone can't take it anymore, I believe that no one wants to die, but some people just can't go on with severe symptoms for too long and it happens, sadly, it's not selfish.
me too. i wonder how many people have fibro and depression? the serotonin link.
i fucking hate life like this.
All of them.
+Bitcoin DreamTeam ... oops. i actually meant the other way around.
i wonder how many people with depression...have been diagnosed with fibro.?
I've been dealing with both for 20+ years.
I don't understand you sorry. There are people that suffer with depression only and there are that either have depression or FMS or both. Depression does not come with the symptomatology seen in FMS, except the fatigue so basically none. It's a serious mental illness. In my case major depression came right after fibromiagia kicked in.
+Bitcoin DreamTeam the experts hand found a link between low serotonin ( seen in depression) and fibromyalgia...though they don't understand why yet.
i believe fibro is a symptom of low serotonin...since serotonin is a feel good neurotransmitter...i believe the severe hyper sensitive nervous system of the fibro sufferer, is a byproduct of the low serotonin, and dare i say, low dopamine too.
just my thoughts and reasoning.
serotonin controls pain levels or the dealing with pain to a certain extent...as well...avid low serotonin it's usually linked with low dopamine too.
i believe fibro is a nervous system malfunction due to screwed up neurotransmitters and the balance of them.
2 months ago, I considered suicide the most self centered, selfish, most self pitying thing a person could do. I thought that if anyone cared about you then there is no reason you should even consider it. Then JewWario died... I didn't know what to think, JewWario was not a selfish person, how could he do this? He just did it out of nowhere, his wife was standing outside of the door telling him to stop but he still decided to take his own life. I couldn't believe it, I didn't 't know what to think... But this helped a lot. It was wrong for me to assume that I knew what it was like to deal with depression. It was wrong for me to talk about something I didn't know about. I never knew how much it tortured these people, and I feel sorry. So thank you so much for this.
wow, that was a powerful thing you just shared. It gave me shivers and I thank you for being honest.
VERY well said.
I think you are one of the few people in the world who might've changed. Freaking amazing, bless you.
I'm 23. I've had an anxiety disorder as far back as I can remember, and I've probably been suffering from long and intermittent episodes of severe MDD since I was about 13. This bout has been with me for about 2 years now.
Thank you for speaking out for all of us.
Epscylon Vega So sorry for your suffering. May you find relief soon.
+Epscylon Vega stay strong brother, i know its hard, i found relief through starting an retro game collection :)
You're a young adult...don't do it
People should not be forced to live.
This is why I don't like how people say: ''Some people don't have food or anything, be grateful. Your pain is nothing like it.'' Thats not the point... :l
Saaame
This is one of the best videos you've done. I've never been suicidal but you've explained it very well Noah. This video was RAW, honest, and JewWario would be proud.
May he rest in peace, thanks for the kind words.
The idea that suicide is a selfish act is beyond idiotic. For some people who feel like they are not in control of their lives, it takes courage to pull that trigger. It takes a mountain of self-esteem to decide you would rather take your own life than to allow society to bleed it out of you first. Isn't deciding when to die a fundamental right a person should have? Can't we be allowed to make that decision when you consider that none of us chose to exist in the first place?
we didn't have a choice to live. why would we want to die without a choice? by my own hand i have a choice.
You dumb bitches condoning suicide are sick. People like you, and people in the mainstream media glamorizing suicide is part of why they think it's okay and think they can just solve a temporary issue with one last move.
Your to dumb to realize all issues arent temporary. Think a little more critically? um terminal cancer for one is not a temporary problem..Its a permanent death sentence period and they have good reason not to want to suffer a long painful death tha will nly feed the medical community which will prolong their suffering until they are bed ridden in intense pain unable to do anything for themselves and having their ases wiped by strangers..Yah think of that for a moment let it in before you spout such bullshit. Your not in this position now but if you ever where you would not be saying this I can assure you of that.
I'm in the thick of it right now. I've been depressed since childhood and am almost 30 now. My family mocks me openly for feeling this down. Suicide isn't selfish it's a way out. I can't fight anymore.
Mine isn’t openminded enough😒
Nice job Noah. You speak the truth!
When I was suicidal, I thought that it was more selfish to stay alive because I knew I was worrying / upsetting the people around me. I decided that they would be better off without me.
Thank you for sharing.
I agree, I give more trouble to the people while I am alive than if I would be gone. That makes it even harder to keep on fighting. I have a new tattoo since 1,5 week: Never stop building
I've thought that same thing many many times.
I remember going through depression shortly after my grandma died. Unfortunately this was around the same time I discovered drugs. An entire year and a half of my life is nothing but a blur, I refused to be sober, I just wanted to be numb. It's horrible man, and like it was said in this video, you can't truly understand it if you've never gone through it.
Tyler Green yet another reason why you should rot in a dungeon of screaming bats and tigers eating your flesh
dont listen to tyler, from what ive seen, hes an ignorant ass.
Jack Tucker Don't worry, this certainly isn't the first time I've been told something similar. When you put yourself out there, people lash out hoping to hurt you. It doesn't bother me anymore, just another annoying gnat.
Shinbu1128 well im glad he didnt have much of an affect on you. and im sorry for what you have gone through
I think that making promises that life will get better for others, people really need to listen to the person first. No one has a right to make empty platitudes without first hearing out the suicidal person's story and reasoning. I think the helper should help the victim towards getting better one step at a time but also be patient with the person and respect boundaries. Actually both parties should be patient and respect boundaries and work towards a mutual understanding. Depression is an illness and people need to realize that part. Sometimes depression just is. It doesn't warrant an explanation.
Especially like what you last said. "Sometimes depression just is. It doesn't warrant an explanation."
when my best friend lost his 9 month old.. i didn't know what to say to him... i evaluated it over and over, and all i had was "bro, this is fucked up... if you need anything from a shoulder to a driver in a bank heist... i'm there. i'm so fucking there bro." and... even that wasn't the justice of how i felt.. there is nothing you can say, cause everything effects everyone different. and your last statement, about not warranting a reason... amazing. thank you.
Brandon James I'm glad that was helpful for you! I had a friend really upset that his grandfather died and he was on the verge of tears, I didn't know what to say. I felt it wasn't my place anyways. I just gave him a hug because it was the only thing that felt appropriate. Loosing a 9 month year old would be terrible. I wouldn't have a response either.
Depression is not necessarily an illness. Great stress and agony can bring grief and suffering. That does not make it a disease at all, simply a natural reaction to prolonged pain. The cliche is over done improperly. Sometimes depression is a result of mental/emotional illness. Sometimes it is a normal healthy response to stress.
Funny how it's not selfish if you want someone to continue in a torturous existence just so you don't have to feel sad when they pass.
Not everyone’s in a situation where it can just “get better” remember that
The people who say that it's selfish constitute a (not "the") reason why people commit suicide. People who are suicidal need to find a reason to live, they don't need to hear how they are "selfish" for failing to find a reason to live any longer (and often they feel as if they are a burden on others).
Deep!
Well said. Also brings to mind how often times a suicidal person might be privileged and seem to "have everything". Never tell a severely depressed person that they shouldn't feel that way since they have it so much better than a lot of people. This will just add more guilt to their suffering. The fog of depression makes these things meaningless and not enjoyable. A person living below the poverty line can be perfectly happy and a billionaire can feel absolutely miserable.
That’s what I just commented. They are the problem for sure and they refuse to admit it. They refuse to admit their words are harsh and wrong and terrible to tell anyone
You know what's sad...when your own mother says that you have no right to be depressed cause other people are suffering more it just makes me feel like shit...
I can't understand why people think that someone would commit suicide for attention. The person is fucking dead, why the fuck would he or she kill themselves for attention? They're dead and unaware that you're even at their funeral. It bothers me how ignorant and illogical people can be.
J Bmannn people are ignorant
Those people who are lucky enough to never feel suicidal, have no right to speak on the matter when it comes to being selfish. If anything, they're selfish for wanting the person who is suffering, to keep suffering.
They're not even being selfish, just completely ignorant. They truly believe that it is something every person can just fight through. How could they be anything else but ignorant? You can't understand something you never experienced.
Exactly
You couldn't be more true
@@LWT1331 its selfish
tried twice. been depressed for 16 years on and off. mine feels a little different than what you describe. i'm happy someone is trying to reach out. i've been in this state for about a year and a half minus a few days. i'm trying real hard to keep going and to keep fighting, but it's a losing fight overall. no jobs available, friends are ignoring me, i hate my family, dealing with alcoholism, it's hard.
I'm so sorry for your suffering. Rooting for you and I hope you keep fighting the good fight.
thanks big. it pushes me hard, but i'm pushing hard back.
+purepurefetish I'm in a similar situation. Just nice to know your not alone. Sending good vibes your way.
Sorry for you
+Max And Cody 's Skits I feel sorry for him too. I pity him.
I agree the mindset of suicide feels as an immense amount of burden that you carry. I wish I was one of those people who were born happy and cheerful or perhaps not even born at all.
Pain 24/7 or death
I may not know you, but I have incredible respect for you, and this truly made me think. Thank you.
Amen. I've never had depression myself, but you gave me a better understanding of it. Great video and I'm glad I took 14 minutes out of my day to watch this great video
+Blueper Draws :)
the sad reality is that people neglect the vast majority of suicides are people of broken homes, those who have been sexually/physically abused, women and men that have been raped, gay men and women for being judged and not liked by others, and children who have been bullied all their life... its as though people neglect these perpetrators so that these people can carry on with their horrible crimes...
I too have been in such dark places and it’s beyond horrible... 10 years ago my uncle took his own life. Rather than using the phrase “took his own life” which can sound somewhat reckless and thoughtless, I instead think of it as him “ending his own suffering” which I believe has connotations of empowerment. I’m by no means praising what he did, but I understand why he did what he did. It was the pain he was experiencing that drove him to it, and as you know, intense and unrelenting pain can be hard to shake off. Thanks for another great video Noah! 👍🏻
"It's like looking at life through a glass window" if I've ever heard anyone accurately describe depression, this might be it.
I remember when I was battling depression and I remember it being so much worse because I was pretty well off and there wasn't really anything wrong with my life at the time and I felt so so horribly because I couldn't understand why I felt the way I did when there are other people who have it much worse than me who aren't depressed. It was like a giant weight on top of something that's already high pressure...
Do you still have it?
PTSD, major depressive disorder, major anxiety, I'm szcitzo, and yet, I'm told to get over it. Not anymore. Thank you for explaining the fog (numbness) and physical pain. I'm sorry.
I agree 100% with you. I'm tired of people who have never experienced this stuff judging me. You don't know what a persons been threw. I'm suicidal dew to mental illness, abuse, bulling, ect. But, I'm not trying to judge the people who judge, I just want them to put themselves in my shoes.
another great point. u can feel physically sick from depression, Ive felt like my heart is going to stop beating, and it feels heavy, cold, and numb. I believe that's why so many religions and spiritualities talk about the heart in terms of emotions
Joshua King Good share
I agree! people that think depression is just about being "kinda sad a lot" only see the tip of the iceberg!
Thanks ! I tried to show my mom this video and she said it was a load of bull crap ! She told me I was selfish and I just wanted her attention . I have been to that place I talk to someone because of it . I just am happy someone other that me knows that I was not being selfish .Thanks for the video!
This was great. Im glad you put this out, hopefully people will stop being so closed minded about this touchy subject.
My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced depression or suicidal thoughts and my heart goes out to the people who couldn't bear the pain any longer.
Thank you for this video. I've never suffered from depression, but I have a friend who has some really bad ups and downs. I always thought he should get over it, but now I know it's much, much harder than that. It helped open my eyes. It really makes me grateful for what I have.
Powerful video - It is difficult for family and loved ones to know how to be supportive and say the right things to the one who is suffering. This video does get to the heart of the mater and I found it very helpful. thanks for your brutal honesty. For anyone who was offended consider that this message was coming from the person on this earth you love the most - and they are trying to help you understand the pain they feel.
This video is so truly amazing that I just had to comment... I feel like sending this to my family so that they can see what I'm going through. You explained this perfectly, better than I could've even attempted to explain.
This was the first video I've ever seen of yours. Very well said, dude.You nailed it. I thankfully never had to deal with the anxiety issues, so my experience was a little different, but there's one important thing to remember:
We're all in this together :)
Suicide a good thing! For long term chronic sufferers of mental illness I see death as the only realistic viable option. It is a precious gift! Of course, anyone who does not have a mental illness will not relate, I totally understand that. They will advise you to continue to suffer without offering any realistic option. However, I would always choose a quality of life over a quantity of life. I figure after a lifetime of agony, any action is better than no action. Nobody knows what happens when we die, but what we do know is, that where we are at now is not tolerable. Suicide is not selfish or weak, it's a way of trying to end pain. I've never understood the point of endless suffering. IMO when ones quality of life is gone..... life is no longer worth it..... honestly, what is the point of hanging on??
That is such a fucking stupid statement in my opinion nothing that a normal person can go through if they live a pretty normal life could never end in suicide. Suicide because of depression is stupid. POWs would fight to survive even though their life were a living hell and were slaves depression will never be an answer.
Jared Lafever Once the quality of life is gone & is not coming back there is nothing worth hanging onto IMO. However, everyone experiences depression differently
It's really annoying when people just expect you to "get over it" or "just be positive" and they think that depression is just being really sad but it's a completely different beast that that, and you can't convey that to a person who's not been there.
its not selfish its just one way out of their pain
goodbye forever
***** barely
It is selfish, it doesn't end the pain, it only passes it to many different people.
+RedNinjaKnight eh, but it's not the same pain though. Probably the pain they are feeling is the financial pain! HAHAHA! They have to deal with the funeral costs and such.
AnPa Lang NOT FUNNY
poppygirl101
Its kind of funny.
Very, very good video. Thanks for the time, effort and thought you put into this.
Watching this brought tears to my eyes. Thank you ever so much for making this. It saddens me to know that there is so much stigma in our society when it comes mental illness. Regular people couldn't even fathom what it's like to live with this every single day, and for the remainder of one's life. People need to learn to put themselves in other people's shoes before speaking on something that they know nothing about. Believe it or not, showing compassion towards someone going through this could potentially save their life.
Thank you. Finally a way to explain to my loved ones that don't take me seriously/ don't believe in depression. You are so appreciated.
KyAngela A very common issue that needs to change. The lack of understanding from even those we would consider the closest to us can be so demoralizing. Never forget you are not alone.
How cant you believe in depression? 😂
Fitzymagic Just look up basically any youtube video on depression other than his and you will see the ignorance.
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This video literally tries to claim that there is no evidence of depression being real and calls it a "bad day". And far too many people believe this. It's stigmatized to the point where people attack the very individuals that have it simply because they have a problem with the pharmaceutical sector.
Fitzymagic ikr all those "depressed" people are trudging through life and hoping the pain will stop so that they can get sympathy from people who don't understand the pain which forces them deeper into a pit of dispair.*sarcasm*
Those words are DEEP. Very DEEP.
i've watched so many of your videos and it relates so much to my life it's incredible. thank you so much for speaking out.
I can’t believe how you nailed it. The pain is unbearable. I was asked today To give one reason why I shouldn’t walk into the night.. my response was “There is no reason why I shouldn’t take that walk”. He then said, “you can’t think of one?”, I replied, “..there isn’t one”
I'm tired of trying
@IDONTCARE I am so alone.
@IDONTCARE please tell me what I am supposed to do.
I've been moderately depressed in a few long periods of my life. What you described is exactly what it was like for me. I felt like I was forced to get up and perform life...but all I got was being completely lethargic and empty inside. It's like your brain can't produce serotonin and your eyes never focus on anything because life is such a blurr. You can't just tell someone to snap out of it or to do something about it, or to grow up or stop being a puss. Depression doesn't care if your a musician or a famous actor or an athlete. Most of all great comedians have suffered or is going through deep depression. Shhhittt... I was only moderately depressed, I can't and don't want to imagine if it got any worse. My best suggestion "and im no professional for sure" is if you enjoy doing something that occupies your mind and time especially outside of work, then by all means do it!
R.I.P. Justin "JewWario".
To this day I reference this video for folks who just don't get it. Thank you again.
Thanks man this video opened my eyes about depression.
This is literally the first video of yours I've watched. This is more than enough for a sub.
Thank you for this video.
Ian Tello I am grateful for your time and hope you find some other content that is of some use to you.
I am having suicidal ideas and I am THAT close to do it right this time, tried two times before and failed for some weird shit, It's not about work at this point, it's not about ex or about religious issues, this is the point I am seeing blank and really every cell in my aches, I am not afraid of Death, I am a bit scared of what's beyond that one way ticket, and I am having no fear of it.
Eternal Hell? torment and all of this fucking shit, I am having no problem with it, I have been to the lowest shit holes in any human life, I am silent all day and avoiding people and friends, I witnessed the death of the closest persons to me, I am not asking the world for respect, love, understanding or anything, and I don't want anyone to feel sympathetic for me, sometimes I think, imagine some scientist watching a mouse in a maze, the mouse is going places, fighting, doing all it takes but for what? what IF that mouse can end his own life? would the "one" watching not be enough entertained, Naaa, bring in another mouse and let the show go on.
I saw the video, thank you for the comment and I can see a life in your eyes my friend, I can see it cause I lost that eye look long ago, I can see it in a random news paper someone else where I come from died, really not a big deal - even in the book I grew up to it's mentioned that we humans are worthless at some point - I could see it bignoknow, I can see myself wit a big hole in the head starring at the truth spoiling the fun, maybe I am heavy a bit to carry they would drag me but seriously does it matter? what's there to fight for? I can't see a thing worth it, all I can feel is the pain ending for the time being, maybe later I end up in hell, sometimes I feel IF I end up in a place better than Hell that all the living would object like "HOW DARE YOU GOD TO ALLOW HIM IN!!".
I don't know how much is left for me in this form, but it feels a bit, just a bit good, to know I can control how I can end my life and IF I survive with a hole in my head from a magnum, I will take a penny for every time someone sees it, thank you for your efforts my friend I don't know.
Muhammed Saad go be a soldier if you don’t fear death make use of what you got
I just got done with a 90 day treatment for Alcohol abuse, found your channel tonight. First time reaching out for help, and first time seeing a psychiatrist. I was diagnosed with MDD, it made a lot of things in my life make sense. Thanks for the video, its spot on.
Thanks dude for articulating this so well, especially for someone like me who has never been though what you have. Glad you pulled through
There is no hell. and with that guess i have nothing to lose.
Hell is very real, my friend. If you do not believe in Hell, God will send you there for a split second, just to show you what Jesus saved you from.
there is no god but the real version of jesus was a cool dude I would drink with him.
Joseph Dowling Sounds like such a petty god. "See I told you nanana"
Reminds me of the story of Job.
Don't live life in a self imposed prison mate, you are free, which is both a curse and a blessing.
this japanese chick is mad
im naked right now so im not wareing a belt wrecked.
thank you so much for this video.
this is one of the best videos i have ever seen on how it feels to go on with depression for what feels like a lifetime. you can feel moments of happiness, even be happy, but the relapse back into that dark place, is so easy and how you explain that daily fight and feeling is so great. this meant a lot to me to see this today. been a rough 2 weeks. thank you.
Imagine that your life is a room on the top floor of the building. You are living in that room. There is an invisible fire in that room, the fire is a depression. The depression is setting your whole life on fire, you are burning, it hurts, you are unable to stop the fire, it seems neverending. Then there are people in their not-burning rooms telling you to smile a little bit, because they don't see the fire, they don't know the pain you feel. Okay, so you can't take it, your room is on fire for so long, it is too much, so you jump from your window and it kills you. You don't want necessarily to die, you just don't want to be in that burning room anymore. And then there are people in their safe rooms assuming that you are selfish, weak and the thing you did is so painful for people around you and that it couldn't be that bad at all... Where's the logic?
K but does killing yourself actually free you of pain, no it doesn’t cause you won’t have a body or a brain or a heart or nerves to feel happiness, it just takes the pain and passes it on to people around you. It doesn’t help, it hurts you and others
In a way it does because you don't have a body or a brain so they won't feel pain.
I'm subbing :). This was the perfect definition of a suicidal/depressed persons mental mind set. I'm 13 years old and was diagnosed by a doctor at 9 with depression, because of childhood memories, bullying and because both of my parents had depression. It increased and I have attempted, put Into several hospital, put on medicine and it had risen to MDD, ANA, Insomnia, OCD, Anixety etc; I thank you so much for this video and I will watch many more of your videos to come :)
Amelia Baughn You are very brave to have endured all of that Amelia. I will be keeping your wellness in my thoughts.
Good luck. Life will improve.
Alias Alien
No it won't. You just get used to it.
nasaman23 No, it improves. Personal experience. I guess at first you must get used to it.
nasaman23
The truth is we don't know if life will improve or get worse but we hope for better and do our best.
you have changed my life. thank you for your efforts, long story short.
Thank you SOOO much for this!! This is incredibly motivating and reassuring. As a sufferer of severe depression myself, and having experienced close ones around me express that suicide and suicide attempts are "selfish", it's so refreshing for you to explain the situation in such an insightful way.
So I thank you so much and I wish u all the best in ur recovery Xxx
Thank you for this video. Been down in that black hole but luckily trt saved me in time.. unfortunately my cousin recently lost that fight :( rip
Christian Vela I'm so sorry to hear that and so glad you are still here.
Thank you so much for this video! I hope that people with this horrible, dark sickness will find your channel to understand that they are not alone. Accually it is a very common sickness and yet, still so shameful and taboo... And this is what makes me so sad... and mad! The shame has to disapear. Depression is a sickness. Like my doctor said; "Would you blame yourself or feel shame for getting amonia or the flue?" It is the same with depression. It is a sickness, it is something that needs to be treated and no one is to blame for getting it.
Amen
OMG.... Thank you for doing this!! I've been trying to explain this way to my friends and family! They have no idea how I feel! Thank you thank you! I'm definitely sharing!!
This is the most accurate description of severe depression that I have ever stumbled across on the net. Kudos to you. I want to show this video to the few good friends I have so that they can kind of see how things feel like for me whenever I'm going through it.
"You're going to Hell" sounds pretty redundant to someone dealing with depression and suicidal thoughts. I think that's probably the dumbest thing you can say next to accusing them of being selfish. There's a huge difference between people who threaten suicide to get what they want (like an ex) and someone who genuinely is about to kill themselves. The former is selfish, the latter certainly isn't.
I sleep onely 4 houres evry night and everything that make me wanna live is my family and how sad they'd be.
I feel like i'm a worthless mess and i need someone to talk to. That's why i swear that if i ever meet someone who feels like this i will help them in anyway i can!
i say that everyday..if it wasent for them id fucking toss my ass into a speeding car so fucking fast...its a curse and a blessing that we have family.. they tie us to earth in a sense of guilt and love...
I would never wish depression on my worst enemy. It is one of the worst things someone can experience.
So how do i help someone who is going through this? if all my words get lost in the fog,if every action i take and every support i give has no effect. If nothing i can do will make them forget about the pain for even the slightlest. Just what can i do?
There are so many who suffer like us. But You are the one with the voice, and kudos to You for it, my friend. For there is one thing depressed person can sometimes seek and that is understanding. Thank You for making the effort to let others try to fathom it.
I personally wish there was a machine which would induce a severe depression in healthy ignorant individuals (I too used to be the one). I think one minute would be enough.
Being dead seems to be great luxury in the state of being depressed. The question "why some of depressed people commit suicide" should be exchanged to "why not ALL depressed ppl commit it". And the answer is that we all have the instinct of life/survival.
About vision of hell - that indeed makes suffering worse. Because you already feel like you're in hell and now have perspective of being in that state forever after suicide.
Cheers and keep up the great work.
Alojzy Żyrokompas I love what you wrote and appreciate your insight and honesty. I've never heard this topic worded like you just did.
It was selfish and weak act from our parents to put us on the earth in the first place, an act that ended with aaaaaaaaahhhh..... We had no choice in that.
So if we choose ourselves to leave and you think it is weak and selfish that is ok.
I know you do not know better, and i do not blame you for that.
But do not blame us for being menthally sick and want out.
But most certainly, don't come up with religious shit, that is no help at all.
We need a long lasting ear and compassion.
Were we mostly not the most intelligent and compassionate carefull people ourselves in our good time?
Do not judge us
Wayan Suparta Well said
The process of childbirth is selfish and weak? Wanting to bring a child and raise it to see it grow and be happy is selfish?
You sound like some black haired, tattooed, body piercing wearing. Sappy band. I get the rest of what you're saying, but do you honestly believe that people bring children into the world to be selfish?
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I just want you to better explain it to me.
What I think she's saying is that she didn't choose to enter this world, and she doesn't appreciate being forced to continue to struggle through constant pain
That's Tradharinos it's really anoyng, when idiots like you call other people idiots for telling this truth. It's absolut selfish absurd from your parents to just put you in a world so fucked up, that people kill themselves
Awesome video, man!
This is very eye opening, thank you.
i wil be depressed for the rest of my life BUT !! i have a reason to live my daughter iam in hell 24/7 365days a year but still my daughter keeps me alive no matter what
You won't be depressed for the rest of your life, I hope you get better soon
People are evil, selfish ignorant and hopeless I don't blame anyone for killing themselves, this life is hopeless
Yep
Your videos have touched my heart. I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my soul. Please keep making videos. I will watch them as long as you make them. I am a fighter just like you.
+David Cupps Your words equally touch mine. Thanks for taking the time and stay brave in all you face.
Can anybody tell me how to contact Noah?? it's really important I really need to communicate with him but I can't send him an email I don't No where he post his email address and I can't send private messages on TH-cam because I think you to take that option out I could only write comments on here if anybody can please help me thank you
I am going to fight it to stay strong because I hate feeling this pain and I want it to stop.
jewels beltran stay brave!
+jewels beltran Medication and therapy can help. Sometimes you have to be patient and try several therapists and meds until you find the right combination/dosage etc...
+bignoknow thank you so much and my life has been better at of late.
+jewels beltran Keep fighting it and it'll be fine :)
+jewels beltran May strength foster your freedom form the darkness.
Some of us just don’t belong here.
Agreed
I hate this, I can't find happiness at all and this depression and anger drives people away and it only revs up that anger and depression with myself.
False hope over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over..., and yet, you are still supposed to have hope or else you are being selfish. Now who is being selfish?