just to let you know, there is a reason why vrchat put mirrors in the game, first was avatar customization, and second was learning face expressions, but mainly avatar customization.
Honestly, same. I start up Vrchat sit in front of mirrors for about 2 minutes, get tired of the awkward feeling, then go play gmod only to probably do the same thing in construct.
Or ppl can create mirror avatars with foggy surface if you’re not friends with them. Also a plan for being in a center of crowd attention for “narcissistic” ppl
I can tell you EXACTLY why mirrors are popular. You choose an avatar you like, so you want to look at it. It also helps with a sense of presence. When you move around in real life and interact with things in real life, there are so many things which help you know what you are doing and helps you contextualize your actions. You lack so much of that in VR, so looking at yourself in a mirror helps with that by offloading a lot of that onto sight.
Also, low fov means it's easier to see everyone in a mirror. And looking people in the eye in vr just leads to uncanny valley at best, nothing at worst
Exactly. I do go do other things, but chilling with friends at a mirror afterwards with that sense of presence is nice. People get toxic about mirrors, but why, its their choice.
To add, it's because it helps your brain adjust its sense of self to the avatar you're using, of which phantom sense is an expression of. It makes the avatar feel like YOU.
The main problem with eye contact in vr is that we are not seeing real eyes. The closest you can get just leads to uncanny valley since it's difficult to actually emote with eyes in vr. And due to the way eyes work in vrchat, others will always look at you regardless of whether or not they are paying attention to you. A good example of this is a giant eyeball I made. Since it's just an eye, it follows players around the room. I could be staring at a corner, your friends pixelated arse or even myself. As far as you can tell, I'm always sitting there, staring into your soul with an overly realistic eyeball the size of a beach ball
Yeah, theyre great, but a lot of people just stare and them for hours and dont really do anything else. And I mean a LOT. They fire up VRchat, put on their thousand-dollar headset and trackers, and then just sit in front of a goddamn mirror. It's depressing to think about.
@@ChaotiX1 I understand both sides tbh. You spent all this money and you want to be able to see that you did. The main issue is that this game is all and chat and no real game but what do you expect from a game called VRChat.
@@debugempty I used to go to horror rooms and roller coaster maps. There's all kinds of stuff to do but you can't do it with random people anymore because 85% of VRChat players just want to sit in front of the mirror.
Idk for me the mirrors are just so amusing to look at. Like looking at you but in a different body. The mirror kinda just helps me remember that I am in a "different world"
Love the movie production quality! I'm brand new to VR, but I think it's because when you put on an avatar and it matches your movements, and you see yourself in the mirror, you trick your brain into thinking you are entirely a brand new person. I personally find it so cool to see an avatar I like matching my arm movements when I see myself in the mirror just with a Quest 2 and PCVR, it makes me want to get Full Body Tracking so my entire body matches the avatar movements as well.
I think it's that we enjoy the look of our avatars, so looking in the mirror and seeing that the handsome devil/beau/cutie pie is you makes the dopamine run
Mirrors are popular because its harder to tell what your face and body looks like than in real life. Also, FoV in VR is a consideration. Normally, you would just all stand in a circle or something. In VR, you wouldn't be able to see everyone at once, but standing in front of a mirror let's you do that. It also helps with phantom touch when cuddling. You can't see someone's full body if they are close to you, and you obviously can't feel them. With mirrors, you can see.
i love how you still answer the question at the end, your avatar becomes an extention of yourself. one that can only be seen in a 3rd perspective within vr
first game i ever played in vrchat was murder 4 (game is by jar, they make basically all the really big games) which lacks a mirror altogether, i think that's been one reason i never saw the point in mirror dwelling (alone, without talking to anyone, in a public lobby)
Fundamentally, mirrors make up for many of the deficiencies in VR technology such as limited FOV, lack of tactile sense, and imperfect control which could mean your avatar may not be doing quite what you expect or intend. Unfortunately, many people don't understand this and attribute mirror usage to extreme vanity and/or social anxiety. These aspects can _also_ be present for any particular person, but they are not actually the underlying cause of mirrors being so popular in VR.
This video has pretty good production value, it's clear that you put effort in what you do and its nice to see that. I just wanted to say that personally i look at mirrors because it helps me see what i'm doing and the ideas i could cast out, i have huge issues with that in real life because i never see my face, so mirrors in vrchat help me feel relaxed.
the production quality in this IS INSANE, i subscribed within the first minute! keep up this incredible work, i don't understand why you don't at least have a million subs xD
This is awesome! I don’t play vr chat because I’m a bit young to really wanna talk to people older then me, but when I’m a bit older I definitely am gonna try it out every now and then
looking the mirror in vrchat has almost the same feeling of looking at the mirror after asking the barber to cut your hair without you looking the process (if he does a good job obviously), you get fascinated with the result. but when it comes to vrchat or vr in general, its because your brain perceives that a different body than what you're used to is following your commands. (personal opinion)
I think vr chatters mirror dwell because they love their look and they don’t look like that in real life. Like me, I mirror dwell sometimes and I’m just Mesmerized by how my Vr chat OC looks. I’m insecure about my real self so looking at myself in the mirror is really a great thing for me.
They'd probably just expand on the "doppelganger" system some art worlds uses to create a copy of your avatar. Kinda looks like cutout mirrors. "Backup dancers" are also an option, if everyone project a double of their avatar it would look just like a common mirror reflection, so, very-poor avatar shenanigans are very much a possibility. The third, and most common option actually, is of course a camera and a screen being used as fake mirror. Long story short, nothing would change... xD
Bruh, this is f**king amazing, I am dying at my chair rn, this needs to happen, Also the new camera is really amazing, the fact you were able to make this proves it, not to mention it's just plain amazing film making for vrchat LOL
I use a mirror while picking avatars, and as soon as I find one I like that day, I leave it. If I need a mirror after that, I reposition my camera to be a mirror and have it follow in the corner of my eye.
I had been watching a lot of VR content like Twice's videos and so I was expecting this to be another one, a little casual video essay or something about mirrors Absolutely blown away by what I got instead. Fantastic work, I had a blast!
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just to let you know, there is a reason why vrchat put mirrors in the game, first was avatar customization, and second was learning face expressions, but mainly avatar customization.
Also, mirror dwellers are just using mirrors wrong.
@@Shijazin "Also, mirror dwellers are just using mirrors wrong." They just love their new look.
you know how malls are falling out of favor. maybe they just need a big mirror with seats. has anyone tried taking this irl?
Ads... what truly horrible idea. God, they might do it to cover costs at some point.
Instead if confronting the crippling social anxiety I'd probably just keep staring at a wall like nothing ever happened
the hell are you doing here lol
wall dwelling, now thats a fun thing to do
Ever consider just toughening up? People 100 years ago didn't have anxiety over dumb shit like this.
Honestly, same. I start up Vrchat sit in front of mirrors for about 2 minutes, get tired of the awkward feeling, then go play gmod only to probably do the same thing in construct.
Is your equipment still fine?
I mean they take alot of hits.
If mirrors were illegal everyone would probably mod cameras to make big cameras
portable mirror mod
-nervous chuckle-
@@Discord6tee9 there is a portable mirror mod that makes an object
Or ppl can create mirror avatars with foggy surface if you’re not friends with them. Also a plan for being in a center of crowd attention for “narcissistic” ppl
@@monsutanokage9639 sounds hard to make
I can tell you EXACTLY why mirrors are popular. You choose an avatar you like, so you want to look at it. It also helps with a sense of presence. When you move around in real life and interact with things in real life, there are so many things which help you know what you are doing and helps you contextualize your actions. You lack so much of that in VR, so looking at yourself in a mirror helps with that by offloading a lot of that onto sight.
Also, low fov means it's easier to see everyone in a mirror. And looking people in the eye in vr just leads to uncanny valley at best, nothing at worst
@@LilOleTinyMe I love looking people in the eye. It's the best way to have a conversation.
Exactly. I do go do other things, but chilling with friends at a mirror afterwards with that sense of presence is nice. People get toxic about mirrors, but why, its their choice.
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To add, it's because it helps your brain adjust its sense of self to the avatar you're using, of which phantom sense is an expression of. It makes the avatar feel like YOU.
Why was this so damn good oh my God this is better than most movies these days
Hold on there cowboy.
Agreed
@@rottensteak508 true
I read mirrors as minors
vrchat short films are getting better ngl. this is astonishing.
The main problem with eye contact in vr is that we are not seeing real eyes. The closest you can get just leads to uncanny valley since it's difficult to actually emote with eyes in vr. And due to the way eyes work in vrchat, others will always look at you regardless of whether or not they are paying attention to you. A good example of this is a giant eyeball I made. Since it's just an eye, it follows players around the room. I could be staring at a corner, your friends pixelated arse or even myself. As far as you can tell, I'm always sitting there, staring into your soul with an overly realistic eyeball the size of a beach ball
I thought eye trackers existed for VRC
@@dashua1735 Sure, but very few people actually have eye tracking.
There’s something so mesmerizing about looking at a mirror and not seeing yourself but rather some anime girl or something. It’s kind of surreal
Exactly. It’s why everyone, including me is drawn to them
I need mirrors in VR for egg_irl reasons
Mirrors are great because it makes you feel more immersed. Seeing the character move exactly like you.
Yeah, theyre great, but a lot of people just stare and them for hours and dont really do anything else. And I mean a LOT.
They fire up VRchat, put on their thousand-dollar headset and trackers, and then just sit in front of a goddamn mirror.
It's depressing to think about.
@@ChaotiX1 I understand both sides tbh. You spent all this money and you want to be able to see that you did. The main issue is that this game is all and chat and no real game but what do you expect from a game called VRChat.
@@debugempty I used to go to horror rooms and roller coaster maps. There's all kinds of stuff to do but you can't do it with random people anymore because 85% of VRChat players just want to sit in front of the mirror.
I love how for the entire time, he treats them like creatures, like in a National Geographic.
I need more of these short films they are absolutely amazing! (also was that chris redfield's voice actor?)
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@@MetacosmStudios I saw the credits and thought it was a joke. I'm sad to learn that's his actual name.
@@Masteroftheweb Exactly the same thing. Thought it sounded kinda toxic reply in the means that Chris Redfields actor isnt a respectable adult bruh
That was impressive, compelling, and comical. You even had a post credits scene. Truly a cinematic masterpiece.
never thought VRChat MOVIES would be a thing, yet its so fucking good
This will eventually be a new way to make money.
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Vibe plays VRChat? The more you know.
@@Felibunn literally made like 3 videos on it fr
@@VibeRBLX Yba youtuber ERPs in vrchat EXPOSED. (not clickbait) 2022 colorized
Thanks
Thank you so much!
Idk for me the mirrors are just so amusing to look at. Like looking at you but in a different body. The mirror kinda just helps me remember that I am in a "different world"
Love the movie production quality! I'm brand new to VR, but I think it's because when you put on an avatar and it matches your movements, and you see yourself in the mirror, you trick your brain into thinking you are entirely a brand new person. I personally find it so cool to see an avatar I like matching my arm movements when I see myself in the mirror just with a Quest 2 and PCVR, it makes me want to get Full Body Tracking so my entire body matches the avatar movements as well.
I didn't even realize people are still scared to make eye contact even when you can't even see the other person's real eyes
Vrchat would be a very high class society if mirrors didn't exist
I didn't even know you could make cinematics like this in VRChat, this is amazing. The camera work is amazing
i dont play vr that much but i still be on the mirror the whole game
Did you know staring into a mirror is a form of therapy
Bro i loved it! Really well done! ;)
if mirrors were gone I’d expect every underhanded trick, this whole video is a goddamn masterpeice
Thanks!
I think it's that we enjoy the look of our avatars, so looking in the mirror and seeing that the handsome devil/beau/cutie pie is you makes the dopamine run
the mirror can make up for the lack of senses such as touch and smell
I only use mirrors to check out new avatars to see how they look.
That was worth the watch. That one chick fetal rocking was hilarious.
Mirrors are popular because its harder to tell what your face and body looks like than in real life. Also, FoV in VR is a consideration. Normally, you would just all stand in a circle or something. In VR, you wouldn't be able to see everyone at once, but standing in front of a mirror let's you do that. It also helps with phantom touch when cuddling. You can't see someone's full body if they are close to you, and you obviously can't feel them. With mirrors, you can see.
Now this is an absolute masterpiece. I've never seen that kind of performance in ANY of the VRChat films.
Something about looking into a mirror and not seeing 'you' you're seeing an avatar that doesn't resemble you but you are in control of
日本の動画かと思うほど詳細が自然で草
それと本当に、面白いほど皆巨大な鏡の前にいるだよな
This is incredible yes but we have to talk about the desperation bit and how natural the eye contact bit looked
the production quality was insane wtf xD
The reason I'm a mirror dweller sometimes is because I can see all my friends around me all at once.
yo the quality on this is insane
I almost shat myself because of that production quality
Saw this at Vket, hilarious! Very well done.
As soon as he says “it’ll have to wait for tomorrow” my 9am alarm went off
i love how you still answer the question at the end, your avatar becomes an extention of yourself. one that can only be seen in a 3rd perspective within vr
The eye-contact part was just when you're in public and someone is staring at you or you're walking down a hall and someone else is there
Bro the production quality and the narration 😂😂😂
this was seriously ALL done in vr chat?? this production quality is insane, good job man.
mirrors are also helpful in large groups to fully see everybody, in a way that allows you to talk to everyone like they're right there in front of you
The Quality of this is amazing! And I love the narrator's voice!
Thanks so much ❤
DUDE THIS IS GIGA CHAD STUFF IF ALL THOSE STUFF ARE GONE
if mirror where illegal i would be making a clone function so i could still see basically a reflection of myself
Why is the cameratography soo incredibly good wth
i love how this is shot like an anime 100/10
I came here looking for copper and I found gold. Like seriously, I didn't expect this kind of quality content. Good job
Mark looked stunning
That‘s definitely worth a subscribe
This was the most high quality VR video I have ever seen. And I watch too many VR videos.
first game i ever played in vrchat was murder 4 (game is by jar, they make basically all the really big games) which lacks a mirror altogether, i think that's been one reason i never saw the point in mirror dwelling (alone, without talking to anyone, in a public lobby)
Bruh this is probably the best edited VRC video I’ve ever seen, I’m subbing!
It’s scary how accurate this is
wow. u are underrated as hell. I love the professionalism in your editing
master piece of comedy, drama, irony and reflexion (litteraly)
this is so well made
1:10 I’m sorry that just made me laugh what is he doing there hahaha
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Fundamentally, mirrors make up for many of the deficiencies in VR technology such as limited FOV, lack of tactile sense, and imperfect control which could mean your avatar may not be doing quite what you expect or intend. Unfortunately, many people don't understand this and attribute mirror usage to extreme vanity and/or social anxiety. These aspects can _also_ be present for any particular person, but they are not actually the underlying cause of mirrors being so popular in VR.
This video has pretty good production value, it's clear that you put effort in what you do and its nice to see that.
I just wanted to say that personally i look at mirrors because it helps me see what i'm doing and the ideas i could cast out, i have huge issues with that in real life because i never see my face, so mirrors in vrchat help me feel relaxed.
Best comedy film, this should get a budget and become a full length film.
yo this is actually really well made. I was expecting a voiceover spitting facts and showing images but this is an actual short film.
In the intro he literally just mentioned all the types of people Vladimir Makarov would have loved to have been at the Airport lol.
Absolutely loved being a part of this, the end product came out brilliant! Great job!!
bruh the cinematography is insane, would never have thought to do a production like this in VRC
AWESOME!
And then you got people who pay so much for full body tracking just to float sitting in front of a mirror all day.
I can’t fucking believe they got the Mortisian goddamned Syndicate in another video
Those bastards will burn one day
the production quality in this IS INSANE, i subscribed within the first minute! keep up this incredible work, i don't understand why you don't at least have a million subs xD
This is awesome! I don’t play vr chat because I’m a bit young to really wanna talk to people older then me, but when I’m a bit older I definitely am gonna try it out every now and then
looking the mirror in vrchat has almost the same feeling of looking at the mirror after asking the barber to cut your hair without you looking the process (if he does a good job obviously), you get fascinated with the result.
but when it comes to vrchat or vr in general, its because your brain perceives that a different body than what you're used to is following your commands. (personal opinion)
The coolest breakdown of mirror dwellers I’ve ever seen my whole goddamn life
started watching it thinking it was proper goofy but its actually well done.
Honestly amazing! This is ART. The mirror operation was very cool!
I think vr chatters mirror dwell because they love their look and they don’t look like that in real life. Like me, I mirror dwell sometimes and I’m just Mesmerized by how my Vr chat OC looks. I’m insecure about my real self so looking at myself in the mirror is really a great thing for me.
Oh my god, this is such a high quality lil movie. I love it, you've got a new subscriber!
I like appreciating the work the model maker went through to allow me to look so cute in VR!
HE WAS THE MIRROR ALL THIS TIME!!!
WHY IS THIS SO GOOD please make more
Wow, this was actually really good! I'm super exited to see what you make next!
Leaving this comment for the algorithm gods because more people need to see this
The cute hand slam on the table as the coffee and donut jumps up "WHOSE YOUR SUPPLER!"
LMAO!!! You guys this is insane, well done Elim!! Can't believe you guys can manage to make films look this amazing through VRChat.
Well this was one of the best short films iv'e watches in a while
THIS IS AMAZING WORK WHAT
i love the flashback in the intro :)
I feel like I just watched something from Netflix, bravo!
They'd probably just expand on the "doppelganger" system some art worlds uses to create a copy of your avatar. Kinda looks like cutout mirrors.
"Backup dancers" are also an option, if everyone project a double of their avatar it would look just like a common mirror reflection, so, very-poor avatar shenanigans are very much a possibility.
The third, and most common option actually, is of course a camera and a screen being used as fake mirror.
Long story short, nothing would change... xD
Bruh, this is f**king amazing, I am dying at my chair rn, this needs to happen, Also the new camera is really amazing, the fact you were able to make this proves it, not to mention it's just plain amazing film making for vrchat LOL
Why was such a short film better then a real movie.
ever since the camera update for quest, that would probably be the next go-to thing if mirrors were banned.
I didn't know you could make a object, a movie
THIS IS AWESOME- I FIND MIRRORS ADDICTIVE I DON'T KNOW WHY..
This is like a movie ngl and i like it
I use a mirror while picking avatars, and as soon as I find one I like that day, I leave it. If I need a mirror after that, I reposition my camera to be a mirror and have it follow in the corner of my eye.
dude this was so good. Instantly subscribed man. What a way to take on the Mirror subject. bravo
I had been watching a lot of VR content like Twice's videos and so I was expecting this to be another one, a little casual video essay or something about mirrors
Absolutely blown away by what I got instead. Fantastic work, I had a blast!
I have two things to say,
'Why is this so good'
'We want Korean subtitle'
I usually go to worlds with beautiful landscape, cause mirrors give me headaches, and i can’t stand looking at one just to talk to a friend.
why does his vrchat look so good. HOW DO I GET IT TO LOOK THIS GOOD AND SMOOTHE
I absolutely love this video, it's so random and also somehow so well done.
Congrats on the team tbh