Should you use this as a Witch Hunter with Sorcery Ward? Or a Turtle Charm Svalinn warbringer or Acrobatics ghost shroud character which barely get hit anyway. Patch notes late next week or in 2 weeks. Theres just so many decisions i feel they need to make once they are back that we need like a entire balance manifesto lol
@dreamcore_gg Speaking of Svalinn, Dreamcore I have not seen anyone test this yet, could you please test the following? A team mate chrono blocker with Merit shield, and a warbringer with turtle charm and a Svalinn who takes zero block nodes, see if the chrono blocker who lets say has 83% block for example, grants this to the Warbringer without the turtle charm and Svalinn subtracting from the block chance? This would give the warbringer over 97% LUCKY block chance to block ANYTHING, with zero nodes spent on block. Just think if they allow it to work like that you could have 1 support and 5 dps warbringers standing in a boss almost invulnerable lol
@@illfate757 I thought about Witch Hunter but couldn't really think of a way to utilise life stacking(other than corrupting cry) for damage, but CC might just be fine on Witch Hunter tbh, maybe I'll check it out
It probably goes much better on something like Blood Mage, where you effectively have a 25% reduced damage taken multiplier from their ascendancy to prevent one shots, and the ability to add a massive chunk of HP to your character via body armor ES which is then further increased by the helm.
Honestly this helm might actually be really good with that. You would have so much suffix space for damage and strength you could actually get a decent amount of life.
Had to check this out, saw the empy video with the gluttony aura(guess it's this one), that's pretty cool, was about a year before I started playing poe1
@@dreamcore_ggyep, veil of the night for 0% resist + gluttony of elements (ele damage heals instead) + CI + phys taken as elemental damage (iirc, Empy's group used triple mod watchers eye with pre nerf "phys taken as" + something as cloak of flames iirc). So, they converted 51%+ of phys to ele, were immune to chaos and healed all ele damage taken. Why 51%+ phys taken as ele damage? Game counts both the damage taken and healed on the same server tick, but it was buggy with 50% conversion.
@@dreamcore_gg thats the one. they dug a hole straight to the center of the earth in delve, completely immortal along the way, if they didnt fumble. it was micro/coordination intensive, and building the whole group wasnt easy either - it required exact margins/precision, kinda like with wardloop
The uniqueness of votn is that the zero resistance is both a massive downside but an upside as well. Pairing it with Rondel, 2xAndvarius, Controlled Metamorphosis Diamond, it potentially offset the massive negative resistance (-80%) of these items for a unique build. Also using it with BrassDome makes you immune to crits ignoring penalties to max res. It also mean suffixes can be free up for attribute stacking, chaos resistance and so on.
I’ve got a Blood Mage version of this build and even made a guide for it. It didn’t start out that way, but after seeing it perform way better than I expected, I decided to challenge myself to clear all content with no elemental resists. The major upside? Life gear without resists is dirt cheap, like 1 ex! So far, I’ve cleared up to T18 and most bosses. Just simulacrum to go!
Elemental resistance is bad anyways, you still get one shotted by white mobs even with 80% all ele resistance if you dont have enough life. Armor and elemental resistances are bad overall now
i think the helmet is totally reasonable while levelling i would suggest to use the "rondel of fragility" unique amulet for massive damage and the -30% to all resistances gets negated by the helmet getting 30% skill speed and 50% damage from a necklace can boost your dps massivelly
Pretty much exactly that, felt incredibly strong in the campaign. I'll check the amulet out, not sure how useful it is in particular on this build but otherwise strong synergy with veil
I've seen people using the transcendence body armour to have somewhat a substantial amount of elemental mitigation, but with armor being bad, it's obviously not very usefull
I honestly wonder if you can use this helmet with a Blood Witch. The crits would be massive - with fully stacked extra health from Remnants especially.
You're gonna laugh, there's a guy on YT called ChakoExile who made a Blood Witch that's basically a warrior with Ancestral Totems that have Sunder slotted. He's been clearing T17 maps with it and I somewhat copied his build, I'm not going for bleed synergies in the passive tree, I'm just strength stacking and I'm clearing T15s at lv 83 currently but there's a lot of stuff I still need to upgrade. Sure this couldn't ever compete with ranger or sorc meta builds rn but does it really need to? I don't think it does when it's this fun to play.
There is also someone with a Xbow plasma blast witch bleed build 1-2 shotting bosses. Though if you go Bone storm Snipe its a guaranteed 1 shot no bleed necessary though i do want to see a bleed variant be good
You can get 45% max life with a 3 sockets 650% effect machination shield and another 35% life with a 5 sockets morrior invictus chest. Both are pretty expensive though but you can farm them by yourself by doing Trialmaster and the Arbiter of Ash.
5:30 "no challenge" 😂 I need to take a look at mathils build with demon form and negative resistances and maybe this helmet has a use in that build , as always great content 👍
Blackbraid Fur Plate has a unique stat that says: Armour applies to Elemental Damage. That can be interesting with that helmet, where you just focus on armor to mitigate all damage except chaos. Quite nice
I have a great idea! Make Vaal Orbs on uniques have a chance to remove one modifier. You could scrub bad mods like the "no ele resistance" and have totally unique uniques.
i've been playing with that helmet in all my character up to now and i can say that one of the best things about it is the sinergy with other uniques that give negative resistances like Rondel of Fragility Lunar Amulet for the skill speed and Andvarius Gold Ring for the rarity.
Ran this on my gemling after watching the video managed to clear up to tier 13 with a breach and boss monster using the helmet over the last few days. I think I’m getting to a point where I’ll have to actually get some resist but I’m going to miss my 9k ehp. Thanks for the video.
there's a body armor (I believe Blackbraid is the name) that mitigate elemental damage with your armor. Maybe it can help keep you alive with this helmet but I dont think it's worth trading a strong rare body piece to another unique equipment in the build.
@@KardeellI was thinking of same idea, until I learned that effects which grants additional effect base of X stat, just copy X's value to Y formula. What I mean, if you have Invoker's ascendancy "Your Evasion also grants PDR" for example, it just copy ur evasion value into armour and then follow armour PDR calculation, not gives, like 80% PDR if you have 80% chance to evade, which sucks, cause armour formula is ridiculously not in our favour. That's why I believe, it would also be shit even if you stack armour with that particular chest, which grants iirc "Your armour also affects elemental damage". Sure it would be helpful against volleys of small eleDMG casters, but wouldn't be worth entire chest slot, especially since it's low level unique.
I'm at 92 lvl with skadoosh's build, but i decided to go cloak of flame for more physical mitigation, having a blast with this "man shouts, monsters die!" build xD
With that much HP I'd go for some % regen nodes and have like 1,000 regen in case you do get chunked and that also nullifies burning ground and stuff. Very cool build I wonder if those unique boots that cause burning ground dot based on Max HP would start to do damage with over 7k HP? Maybe make the meme boots work with the helm lol. Also maybe could just go Ghostwrithe and turn all that huge HP into ES and get 25k ES? Warcry honestly perfect for ES.
I put this build idea together a few days ago, and went all in on scaling the life component. Kaom's Heart and the Surrender, as well as some %life soulcores, then a +14 level weapon swap for my totems. It works decently well, but the random deaths continue to feel really bad.
I was thinking of using that helmet with witchunter and use elemental ward. Then if you go for things like spaghettification where the downside is negative resist. That would be interesting.
You would definitely need more than 8k life to make that work. I got my monk up to 8k overcapped energy shield and ive been 1 shot with caped resistance and ci on t16 maps but for leveling might be a great helm. Cool experiment
I wish rat cage had a tad more life, especially considering the amount you can roll on rare gear but this could still be quite good to help against fire hits
nice video, using the pin support for blocking stun is interesting for a non warbringer warcry build and seeing how much resistance/es/armour can be dodge using other tool like knockback
@Dreamcore There is a Unique Chest that reads "Armour applies to Elemental Damage" Did you test if there is a good synergy with that item ? I have been thinking of Stacking an Armour Titan with lots of HP with both items. Titan because he gets both extra hp and armour ascendancies. If you also get Block on top of that with the Unique shield 'The Wailing Wall' that reads "Can Block damage from all Hits. Cannot use Shield Skills" I think u would be Unkillable. I can also see Warbringer with the block ascendancy or gemling because of strength attribute stacking working.
Well if I remember back to the heist league which was the last time I really played poe 1 I think the "extra damage as fire/cold/lightning" on maps rolled quite a bit higher in poe 1 but we also had the purity auras to bump our max resistance up more. This hunch has led me to have some fun with the brass dome unique armor in poe 2 by stacking obscene amounts of armornodes on a titan =)
Using it in acts for leveling blood mage, when Life is The currency of your spells and survivability, it's just worth so much more than resistances. I imagine a well rolled rare later on will replace it, but then you also have to address resistances and it's basically a full gear swap at that point, which won't be cheap, so I imagine i'll be well into red maps before I ever take it off.
step 1, veil of night, 2 cowards belt, 3 rise of the phoenix shield, 4 blood mage. Now, you can scale your max life by 25% with invictus body, and make sure your rings have % regen corrupts. Prepare to regen upwards of 10% of your life per second.
How would you do combo'ing this setup with a chest piece like Ghostwrithe to convert half your max life into ES? I forget if you could then scale that ES to get something absurd with say, 300% max ES to get a fat 10k ES pool along with a 3500 life pool. Alternatively you could look into Blackbraid to make armour affect elemental damage, but you'd need a really good shield to make it work
Conversion only benefits from modifiers that scale the converted stat, so the ES in this case wouldn't be scaled from the 50% increased life, it would be converted before the increase
There is a body armor that allows armor to affect elemental damage which could combo with this helmet. Also the Unique boots that drop burning ground when you move scale with max HP. Maybe a there is a viable Gemling HP stacker cast on ignite autobomber setup?
I Know the thought behind the Monster Damage Map mods was: Elemental Damage is the characters Weak Spot so we wanna avoid Elemental Damage. But from a Relative Perspective Both Veil of The Night and a Regular Build are hurt basically the same from map Mods. Compared to a map without damage stats you take the specified % more damage either way. Lets say you have 1000 incoming elemental damage and 60% monster damage map mod. On a Res Char with 2000 Life thats 250 incoming damage without map mod and 400 with map mod so 20% of you hp. On a Veil Char with 8000 health you take 1000 damage without map mod and 1600 damage with, still 20% of your hp.
I had a very similar idea with warcries and totems using this helmet but instead of using titan id use infernalist and that way life/strength stacking also would provide more spirit via Beidat's Will and then use ancestral bond to increase my maximum totems from spirit instead of limit --as well as reduce the cost of those totems up to 60% with Matsya Crescent Quarterstaff (which also has very high base crit).--[EDIT:staves cannot be used for ancestral totems only dark effigy totems atm] idk if I should scale into with Grinning Immolation or not. Side note: the unique belt Coward's Legacy+Pain attunement+Beidat's Will+Grinning Immolation would give you a total of 60% MORE critical damage bonus permanently but you would have to invest into reduced ignite duration or other sources of ignite immunity). Overall, you would be able to push around 1300 strength and have 11k life with % life and % attributes morivictus and you would get about 600 spirit (without a scepter) with the right Against the Darkness placement with +1% life and +12 and also 3 %spirit grand spectrum jewels. That would be 15 totems which just sounds overkill but really fun since the more totems you have the more attack speed you have with Supportive totems (up to 30% with all 15) and at that point you could considering using an AoE mapping totem 6L like shockwave totem instead of relying on warcries but it would need testing. Realistically, you would probably end up being forced to use a shield in this build just for the extra armour and % physical mitigation roll. Also because you are stacking so much strength for extra life you can have a weapon swap with 2 +7 to melee two handers with Giant's Blood for bosses since the only way to scale base damage for totems in PoE 2 is gem levels and they really do not care about your base damage at all. I think I would end up using adorned with +% totem damage and increased warcry recovery speed for bossing but this is something that I would need to play around with to see if I would really need it. Also because you would use infernalist you can benefit from Heat Proofing and therefore benefit more from Altered Flesh to mitigate damage but obviously a massive life/insane % life recovery would be the main forms of defense. The surrender/block chance would be worth looking into as well. With this much HP, recoup might be alright BIG thing that I think you touched on but missed about this helmet's upside that makes it somewhat less of a meme is that "your resistances are 0" which means all your suffixes can now be used for other means such as extra strength, life regen, turning rares into unqiues, and taking -%ele resistance from things like Controlled Metamorphosis, Andvarius Gold Ring, or Rondel of Fragility Lunar Amulet is no longer a downside. I NEED POB NOW!
@@wolfcam4462 oh yeah guess that's a staff. When I was putting a totem build together originally I was thinking of dark effigy totems (which are currently very clunky) and forgot that it wouldnt work. Good catch though
@gamefuler you could still probably do some nutty stuff with coc or ignite like DD with a few skellies, since reservation will be really low using that staff
@@wolfcam4462 unless it's different in poe 2, totems are a proxy which means they inherent all of your stats but arent technically you and therefore "you" technically wouldnt be critting and CoC would not function but the extra minion synergy is very interesting and you just gave me an idea which I am very appreciative of.
@@gamefuler no I meant regular coc or cast on whatever; but I checked and you can use the shockwaves with the staff, though I'm not sure how you can scale it's dps without lvls, even if there are 15 of them😅
I've been brainstorming a gemling legionnaire version of the seismic cry spammer, with the node for 4 life per strength and already pumping strength like a madman for corrupting cry, we could break 10k life...
As the creator of that "veil", i´m proud of your achievments. I´m currently stuck in T15+2 fullfilling bosshunting quests. 4k Life full reservation Infernalist looking forward to switch that new 1MUber-DD. I would recommend corrupting the helm to 58%inc life because thats dirt cheap todo. And compared to my melee quarterstaff titan stunner i died almost half as much. I consider Corrupting Cry a waste of time, doesn´t do enough damage.
The Rat Cage body armour gives 100% of fire to physical, I wonder how that works with Infernalist conversion to fire damage or Avatar of fire 75% of all damage converted to fire.
What about stacking armor with Blackbraid Fur Plate. I think the synergy can be amazing. Another interesting idea it to do it as infernalist converting 20% of the damage to fire and use the armor apply to fire notable. You will also reserve 25% of very large life pool to get and scale es.
I'm trying recoup on my blood witch while stacking life, I haven't tried pushing the hp pool really hard yet but this item could be fun for a magic find build (as you mentioned).
It's kind of a bummer that everything other than ES stacking is basically unusable towards late game. Need more sources of HP in the tree or a serious buff to armour ASAP.
Blackbraid Fur Plate? Then just repeat the str stacking and get as much armor from shield and some ES from other stuff. With your over 8k hp at the end with regen nodes and %life regen runes, you can hit like 50% of your life as regen per second, so 4k permanent ES Regen, and no need to build any ele res or max res.
take 4 times the damage just to have 1.5 times the health lol, maybe as infernalist with ES conversion to have ike 20K ES and a lot more spirit is usable lol
Yeah I pretty much found while levelling through campaign I'm completely unkillable, facetanking monkey slam in A3/6 etc. and getting into late white maps I'm now chunking big time to elemental damage, as expected. Fun test because the build is fun, useful item early on, not so good later on
Kind of, but you also win objectively better defence against non-elemental attacks and, more importantly, you gain the opportunity to replace resistance modifiers on your gear for whatever else. That's two to three slots per piece that you can use for another layer of defence, or more offence.
@@dreamcore_gg i wonder how powerful this item is if you play witch with the unique staff that reduces reservation cost by 50%. Like if you have 5000 hp, you would get 1250 spirit. the downside of no elementals might not matter for witch because you could in theory have 2 army summons where the minions tank everything for you.
I've been fiddling with Veil of the Night with a Witch hunter, using sorcery ward to help solve ele max hit could get up to 7-8k sorc ward, 75% block with allowing 20% damage through, using the evasion shield wheel. Its... fine. it's unfortunately straight up better to run atziri's disdain, defensively, but veil of the night is fun.
I considered WH but couldn't really figure out offence because I wanted to go more down the str/life stack route, maybe further into EA when more support is added for that kinda stuff
@@dreamcore_gg the offense i was going was just molten blast with blueflame gloves and herald of ice. nothing special. we need more one handed weapons before there's too much excitement you can do in the bottom of the tree that isnt herald of ice stuff.
I wonder if blackbraid could be used in conjunction with veil? I'd also imagine a gemling would be a better fit, getting double the life from strength stacking.
isnt there a way to cheese that somehow ? like 25%armor applys to fire damage taken from hits for example and maybe beeing a infernalist on top for 20%light&cold damage taken as fire and than use armor to medigate all the fire damage for example and maybe more items/jewels or whatever to get more of the damage conversion to fire or chaos damage ? isnt there a chest that applys armor to ele damage taken in poe2 ?? im pretty sure you could do somehting like that. also beeing a infernalist would enable some sick stuff with alot of life
Well, i can't tell what is your ascenedncy but i had a 8k health gemling "500 magic find" at about 1.4k str so if i was not going magic find i'd certainly see a use for this helmet, but ultimately this helmet is like "more tanky vs phys/chais, less vs ELE dmg"
you should be using a lvl 3 infernal cry + daze setup, hit the pack with IC then SC till full stacks then move on its a very smooth playstyle with both crys
wouldn't it be pretty solid on chronomancer with recoup? If u invest all in life and reach like 8k life, + maybe block, then with recoup i guess u will take more dmg so heal more?
@@colinmetzger6755 Not only that, you can't convert multiple times, so the ES from Ghostwrithe shouldn't get converted to mana, unless there's some kind of bug or something. (The base ES on the item would get converted to mana, but the life->ES should stay ES). Haven't tested it myself.
Kripparrian just posted a video on a Titan Warrior concept that flips life into energy shield, utilizing the Adamant Recovery node to turn armor buffs into ES regen, allowing it to rapidly refill its ES. And it can do it even in combat due to the shield blocking a lot of hits. Since it uses Ghostwrithe to get ES, which runs of hp, and the helmet you're using offers up hp... That said, without resists, that ES is going to get chunked fast.
Considering conversion interactions, Ghostwrithe would convert life to ES BEFORE the 50% increased life from the helm would apply. Even if it did, you'd be getting an additional 25% of your HP as es (50% inc life X 50% life converted = 25%). Aztiris disdain helmet can give up to 30% of your life as additional ES without the resist downsides.
Not on a warbringer, the block can get you to survive 1 big hit and block the next one. I am testing this helmet with ghostwright and Svalin on warbringer totemer based on what Palsteron posted
@@steven3825 atziri's disdain is a very dangerous item as the % bypass of energy shield means that if you have a 1 to 5 life to energy shield ratio (up to 1 to 4 depending on the bypass percentage roll) you essentially die as fast as your energy shield does, and even if your shield recharges you are probably invested in something other than life regen, point is we really need GGG to fix armor as the amount of shenanigans that some classes have to go through just to not get one tapped is really bothersome.
I think witchunter would be a good choice for this kind of build. You get like 5k elemental ward from armour and evasion. Right now on s normal life setup I have somewhere over 2600 life so you could scale both life and armor/evasion to get more elemental protection. Not sure if you can stack enough strength to make it worth it. I think you could get 5000 hp + 5000 ele ward on s budget. That's a little bit less from what I have now 75 rez 2600 life and 5000 ele ward. Lets say you wear s shield with 1k armour you would probably make up for everything snd have more ele protection than on a normal build. Yet your boss damsge would probably be 0
Not necessarily a meme. If you can get the same 7k health on Infernalist, that is another 300 spirit for a minion build, and nearly 1000 extra flat ES.
About map modifiers: Why GGG thinks 25% ele pen and/or -12% max res are ok mods to keep in the maps? It's litteraly brick mods that you must roll off or delete the map.
Check out kripps build. You can convert your HP into es then scale es + es recharge rate. I wouldn't be surprised if you can get 20k es with 7k recovery
“Takes off veil of night has -130 all res, puts on veil of night has 8448 life and 1918 mana with 19% damage taken from mana before life and 300% MF from 3 items” Hint its Andvarius x2 + ingenuity belt
I'm running a build with it on my second character (mine's corrupted to 60% extra health), I have little over 5k hp at lv 83 and I'm clearing T15s without many issues, in fact it's never elemental damage from a mob that puts a dent in me, it's always something else.
@@LennyMLGDorito interesting. do you run any/all map mods? so far i've only been hit hard by chaos or physical damage on any of my characters (not using helm)
@@junk3996 I only truly avoid burning ground (though it's not impossible obviously, I just really dislike playing it) and I adjust playstyle for maps that say monster attacks have extra damage added as elemental but I get 78% block chance for the small hits and the big hits in this game are easy to dodge with 35% movespeed. Thankfully the helmet has no effect on your chaos resistance, else it would be garbage I think because like you said even with high chaos resistance you sometimes just get absolutely chunked by it. Btw "Monsters penetrate elemental resist" and "you have less elemental resist" modifiers are completely free for you because you don't have 0 resists, you just have none at all.
PATCH NOTES WHEN?!
Divine Flesh next patch? :))))
Should you use this as a Witch Hunter with Sorcery Ward? Or a Turtle Charm Svalinn warbringer or Acrobatics ghost shroud character which barely get hit anyway. Patch notes late next week or in 2 weeks. Theres just so many decisions i feel they need to make once they are back that we need like a entire balance manifesto lol
@dreamcore_gg Speaking of Svalinn, Dreamcore I have not seen anyone test this yet, could you please test the following? A team mate chrono blocker with Merit shield, and a warbringer with turtle charm and a Svalinn who takes zero block nodes, see if the chrono blocker who lets say has 83% block for example, grants this to the Warbringer without the turtle charm and Svalinn subtracting from the block chance? This would give the warbringer over 97% LUCKY block chance to block ANYTHING, with zero nodes spent on block.
Just think if they allow it to work like that you could have 1 support and 5 dps warbringers standing in a boss almost invulnerable lol
@@illfate757 I thought about Witch Hunter but couldn't really think of a way to utilise life stacking(other than corrupting cry) for damage, but CC might just be fine on Witch Hunter tbh, maybe I'll check it out
there is a unique chest piece that gives elemental resistances based on your armour, you lose some HP but it would make you more tanky :)
There's me thinking the helmet was the meme part of this build, then I saw the gameplay.....
exciting gameplay indeed
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@@OSeanSanO Lady gaga next song?
warrior be down baaad
It probably goes much better on something like Blood Mage, where you effectively have a 25% reduced damage taken multiplier from their ascendancy to prevent one shots, and the ability to add a massive chunk of HP to your character via body armor ES which is then further increased by the helm.
Was about to suggest the same thing :)
Honestly this helm might actually be really good with that. You would have so much suffix space for damage and strength you could actually get a decent amount of life.
fun fact: in poe1 veil of the night was key component of an immortal delve build until the build got nerfed... wasn't always just a meme :)
Had to check this out, saw the empy video with the gluttony aura(guess it's this one), that's pretty cool, was about a year before I started playing poe1
@@dreamcore_ggyep, veil of the night for 0% resist + gluttony of elements (ele damage heals instead) + CI + phys taken as elemental damage (iirc, Empy's group used triple mod watchers eye with pre nerf "phys taken as" + something as cloak of flames iirc).
So, they converted 51%+ of phys to ele, were immune to chaos and healed all ele damage taken.
Why 51%+ phys taken as ele damage? Game counts both the damage taken and healed on the same server tick, but it was buggy with 50% conversion.
@@dreamcore_gg thats the one. they dug a hole straight to the center of the earth in delve, completely immortal along the way, if they didnt fumble. it was micro/coordination intensive, and building the whole group wasnt easy either - it required exact margins/precision, kinda like with wardloop
The uniqueness of votn is that the zero resistance is both a massive downside but an upside as well. Pairing it with Rondel, 2xAndvarius, Controlled Metamorphosis Diamond, it potentially offset the massive negative resistance (-80%) of these items for a unique build. Also using it with BrassDome makes you immune to crits ignoring penalties to max res. It also mean suffixes can be free up for attribute stacking, chaos resistance and so on.
thanks!
I’ve got a Blood Mage version of this build and even made a guide for it. It didn’t start out that way, but after seeing it perform way better than I expected, I decided to challenge myself to clear all content with no elemental resists. The major upside? Life gear without resists is dirt cheap, like 1 ex! So far, I’ve cleared up to T18 and most bosses. Just simulacrum to go!
Have a link to that build?
@@CheckTheWiki Yea i do
Elemental resistance is bad anyways, you still get one shotted by white mobs even with 80% all ele resistance if you dont have enough life. Armor and elemental resistances are bad overall now
Im crazy so I am going Blood Mage with a Quarterstaff and stacking Evasion and taking Acrobatics. Im sure it will be terrible ❤
i think the helmet is totally reasonable while levelling i would suggest to use the "rondel of fragility" unique amulet for massive damage and the -30% to all resistances gets negated by the helmet getting 30% skill speed and 50% damage from a necklace can boost your dps massivelly
Damn wtf genius
Pretty much exactly that, felt incredibly strong in the campaign. I'll check the amulet out, not sure how useful it is in particular on this build but otherwise strong synergy with veil
I've seen people using the transcendence body armour to have somewhat a substantial amount of elemental mitigation, but with armor being bad, it's obviously not very usefull
Been waiting for the armour patch to come through before doing this
There needs to be a way to make the base stats of those uniques higher.
It's better at defending against elemental damage, because elemental hitting enemies aren't frequently breaking armour.
I honestly wonder if you can use this helmet with a Blood Witch. The crits would be massive - with fully stacked extra health from Remnants especially.
Disdain and almost always better imo with the current state off ES.
You're gonna laugh, there's a guy on YT called ChakoExile who made a Blood Witch that's basically a warrior with Ancestral Totems that have Sunder slotted. He's been clearing T17 maps with it and I somewhat copied his build, I'm not going for bleed synergies in the passive tree, I'm just strength stacking and I'm clearing T15s at lv 83 currently but there's a lot of stuff I still need to upgrade. Sure this couldn't ever compete with ranger or sorc meta builds rn but does it really need to? I don't think it does when it's this fun to play.
@@LennyMLGDorito Oh, I am not gonna laugh. I will instead visit his channel and learn from what he is doing, because it sounds fun! Muscle Witch ftw.
There is also someone with a Xbow plasma blast witch bleed build 1-2 shotting bosses. Though if you go Bone storm Snipe its a guaranteed 1 shot no bleed necessary though i do want to see a bleed variant be good
And 1000hp flat kaom chest
You can get 45% max life with a 3 sockets 650% effect machination shield and another 35% life with a 5 sockets morrior invictus chest.
Both are pretty expensive though but you can farm them by yourself by doing Trialmaster and the Arbiter of Ash.
Would be decent with infernalist. 50% max life means a lot more spirit and lots more minions.
5:30 "no challenge" 😂
I need to take a look at mathils build with demon form and negative resistances and maybe this helmet has a use in that build , as always great content 👍
Blackbraid Fur Plate has a unique stat that says: Armour applies to Elemental Damage. That can be interesting with that helmet, where you just focus on armor to mitigate all damage except chaos. Quite nice
I could check it out for sure, only issue is how to get a lot of armour with such low base coming from helm + body
I have a great idea! Make Vaal Orbs on uniques have a chance to remove one modifier. You could scrub bad mods like the "no ele resistance" and have totally unique uniques.
i've been playing with that helmet in all my character up to now and i can say that one of the best things about it is the sinergy with other uniques that give negative resistances like Rondel of Fragility Lunar Amulet for the skill speed and Andvarius Gold Ring for the rarity.
Ran this on my gemling after watching the video managed to clear up to tier 13 with a breach and boss monster using the helmet over the last few days. I think I’m getting to a point where I’ll have to actually get some resist but I’m going to miss my 9k ehp. Thanks for the video.
there's a body armor (I believe Blackbraid is the name) that mitigate elemental damage with your armor. Maybe it can help keep you alive with this helmet but I dont think it's worth trading a strong rare body piece to another unique equipment in the build.
Effect of this armor will be almost insignificant. Due to balance usually elemental hits are insanely big. Armour very bad against big hits.
@@KardeellI was thinking of same idea, until I learned that effects which grants additional effect base of X stat, just copy X's value to Y formula.
What I mean, if you have Invoker's ascendancy "Your Evasion also grants PDR" for example, it just copy ur evasion value into armour and then follow armour PDR calculation, not gives, like 80% PDR if you have 80% chance to evade, which sucks, cause armour formula is ridiculously not in our favour.
That's why I believe, it would also be shit even if you stack armour with that particular chest, which grants iirc "Your armour also affects elemental damage". Sure it would be helpful against volleys of small eleDMG casters, but wouldn't be worth entire chest slot, especially since it's low level unique.
Armor break is why armor is bad against big hits. This passive is actually good
The issue is it’s a lvl 10 unique body armour with next to no armour on it. The one piece where u get the biggest chunk of armour.
I'm at 92 lvl with skadoosh's build, but i decided to go cloak of flame for more physical mitigation, having a blast with this "man shouts, monsters die!" build xD
What a ugly build kkkk. Im waiting Druid and Dagger skills.
Poison assassin goes brrrrrrr.
It’s called the singer build
All we need now is a shout that makes enemy corpses drop extra loot 😂
With that much HP I'd go for some % regen nodes and have like 1,000 regen in case you do get chunked and that also nullifies burning ground and stuff. Very cool build I wonder if those unique boots that cause burning ground dot based on Max HP would start to do damage with over 7k HP? Maybe make the meme boots work with the helm lol. Also maybe could just go Ghostwrithe and turn all that huge HP into ES and get 25k ES? Warcry honestly perfect for ES.
I put this build idea together a few days ago, and went all in on scaling the life component. Kaom's Heart and the Surrender, as well as some %life soulcores, then a +14 level weapon swap for my totems. It works decently well, but the random deaths continue to feel really bad.
I was thinking of using that helmet with witchunter and use elemental ward. Then if you go for things like spaghettification where the downside is negative resist. That would be interesting.
thats negative chaos res, which would hurt
I like when players experiment. I-m doing some testing of my own too. Keep up the good work.
Glad to see you got around to giving corrupting cry a try!
You would definitely need more than 8k life to make that work. I got my monk up to 8k overcapped energy shield and ive been 1 shot with caped resistance and ci on t16 maps but for leveling might be a great helm. Cool experiment
Was thinking about comboing Veil of the Night with Rat Cage for big flat life and take fire damage as physical
I wish rat cage had a tad more life, especially considering the amount you can roll on rare gear but this could still be quite good to help against fire hits
nice video, using the pin support for blocking stun is interesting for a non warbringer warcry build and seeing how much resistance/es/armour can be dodge using other tool like knockback
@Dreamcore There is a Unique Chest that reads "Armour applies to Elemental Damage" Did you test if there is a good synergy with that item ?
I have been thinking of Stacking an Armour Titan with lots of HP with both items. Titan because he gets both extra hp and armour ascendancies.
If you also get Block on top of that with the Unique shield 'The Wailing Wall' that reads
"Can Block damage from all Hits. Cannot use Shield Skills"
I think u would be Unkillable.
I can also see Warbringer with the block ascendancy or gemling because of strength attribute stacking working.
Well if I remember back to the heist league which was the last time I really played poe 1 I think the "extra damage as fire/cold/lightning" on maps rolled quite a bit higher in poe 1 but we also had the purity auras to bump our max resistance up more. This hunch has led me to have some fun with the brass dome unique armor in poe 2 by stacking obscene amounts of armornodes on a titan =)
Using it in acts for leveling blood mage, when Life is The currency of your spells and survivability, it's just worth so much more than resistances. I imagine a well rolled rare later on will replace it, but then you also have to address resistances and it's basically a full gear swap at that point, which won't be cheap, so I imagine i'll be well into red maps before I ever take it off.
step 1, veil of night, 2 cowards belt, 3 rise of the phoenix shield, 4 blood mage. Now, you can scale your max life by 25% with invictus body, and make sure your rings have % regen corrupts. Prepare to regen upwards of 10% of your life per second.
How would you do combo'ing this setup with a chest piece like Ghostwrithe to convert half your max life into ES? I forget if you could then scale that ES to get something absurd with say, 300% max ES to get a fat 10k ES pool along with a 3500 life pool. Alternatively you could look into Blackbraid to make armour affect elemental damage, but you'd need a really good shield to make it work
Conversion only benefits from modifiers that scale the converted stat, so the ES in this case wouldn't be scaled from the 50% increased life, it would be converted before the increase
Might try something with Veil + Kaom's Heart for a big life pool, then Acolyte's Darkness + Block for extra damage prevention
There is a body armor that allows armor to affect elemental damage which could combo with this helmet. Also the Unique boots that drop burning ground when you move scale with max HP.
Maybe a there is a viable Gemling HP stacker cast on ignite autobomber setup?
I Know the thought behind the Monster Damage Map mods was: Elemental Damage is the characters Weak Spot so we wanna avoid Elemental Damage. But from a Relative Perspective Both Veil of The Night and a Regular Build are hurt basically the same from map Mods. Compared to a map without damage stats you take the specified % more damage either way. Lets say you have 1000 incoming elemental damage and 60% monster damage map mod. On a Res Char with 2000 Life thats 250 incoming damage without map mod and 400 with map mod so 20% of you hp. On a Veil Char with 8000 health you take 1000 damage without map mod and 1600 damage with, still 20% of your hp.
I had a very similar idea with warcries and totems using this helmet but instead of using titan id use infernalist and that way life/strength stacking also would provide more spirit via Beidat's Will and then use ancestral bond to increase my maximum totems from spirit instead of limit --as well as reduce the cost of those totems up to 60% with Matsya Crescent Quarterstaff (which also has very high base crit).--[EDIT:staves cannot be used for ancestral totems only dark effigy totems atm] idk if I should scale into with Grinning Immolation or not. Side note: the unique belt Coward's Legacy+Pain attunement+Beidat's Will+Grinning Immolation would give you a total of 60% MORE critical damage bonus permanently but you would have to invest into reduced ignite duration or other sources of ignite immunity).
Overall, you would be able to push around 1300 strength and have 11k life with % life and % attributes morivictus and you would get about 600 spirit (without a scepter) with the right Against the Darkness placement with +1% life and +12 and also 3 %spirit grand spectrum jewels. That would be 15 totems which just sounds overkill but really fun since the more totems you have the more attack speed you have with Supportive totems (up to 30% with all 15) and at that point you could considering using an AoE mapping totem 6L like shockwave totem instead of relying on warcries but it would need testing. Realistically, you would probably end up being forced to use a shield in this build just for the extra armour and % physical mitigation roll. Also because you are stacking so much strength for extra life you can have a weapon swap with 2 +7 to melee two handers with Giant's Blood for bosses since the only way to scale base damage for totems in PoE 2 is gem levels and they really do not care about your base damage at all. I think I would end up using adorned with +% totem damage and increased warcry recovery speed for bossing but this is something that I would need to play around with to see if I would really need it.
Also because you would use infernalist you can benefit from Heat Proofing and therefore benefit more from Altered Flesh to mitigate damage but obviously a massive life/insane % life recovery would be the main forms of defense. The surrender/block chance would be worth looking into as well. With this much HP, recoup might be alright
BIG thing that I think you touched on but missed about this helmet's upside that makes it somewhat less of a meme is that "your resistances are 0" which means all your suffixes can now be used for other means such as extra strength, life regen, turning rares into unqiues, and taking -%ele resistance from things like Controlled Metamorphosis, Andvarius Gold Ring, or Rondel of Fragility Lunar Amulet is no longer a downside.
I NEED POB NOW!
Need mace for totems🥲
@@wolfcam4462 oh yeah guess that's a staff. When I was putting a totem build together originally I was thinking of dark effigy totems (which are currently very clunky) and forgot that it wouldnt work. Good catch though
@gamefuler you could still probably do some nutty stuff with coc or ignite like DD with a few skellies, since reservation will be really low using that staff
@@wolfcam4462 unless it's different in poe 2, totems are a proxy which means they inherent all of your stats but arent technically you and therefore "you" technically wouldnt be critting and CoC would not function but the extra minion synergy is very interesting and you just gave me an idea which I am very appreciative of.
@@gamefuler no I meant regular coc or cast on whatever; but I checked and you can use the shockwaves with the staff, though I'm not sure how you can scale it's dps without lvls, even if there are 15 of them😅
I've been brainstorming a gemling legionnaire version of the seismic cry spammer, with the node for 4 life per strength and already pumping strength like a madman for corrupting cry, we could break 10k life...
Kaom's + Veil on a Bloodmage goes hard
As the creator of that "veil", i´m proud of your achievments. I´m currently stuck in T15+2 fullfilling bosshunting quests. 4k Life full reservation Infernalist looking forward to switch that new 1MUber-DD. I would recommend corrupting the helm to 58%inc life because thats dirt cheap todo. And compared to my melee quarterstaff titan stunner i died almost half as much.
I consider Corrupting Cry a waste of time, doesn´t do enough damage.
Seems like this helm would fit on a strength stacking gemling, I have think that would give you the most bang for your HP stacking buck
Not sure if there is a node that makes all element damage is based on chaos resistance instead like in poe 1
This works really well with witchhunter elemental ward ascendency maxed.
I actually think Gemling with the attribute have double to bonuses would work insanely. With 1k strength you might be able to get 10khp or more
Reckon it could work well with merc sorcery ward? Stacking life, armour / evasion?
The Rat Cage body armour gives 100% of fire to physical, I wonder how that works with Infernalist conversion to fire damage or Avatar of fire 75% of all damage converted to fire.
how about disable resistance interact with doryani's prototype?
That and negative resistance items came to mind as combos to have fun with this helmet.
What about stacking armor with Blackbraid Fur Plate. I think the synergy can be amazing.
Another interesting idea it to do it as infernalist converting 20% of the damage to fire and use the armor apply to fire notable. You will also reserve 25% of very large life pool to get and scale es.
Have you thought about using it with Blackbraid & armor stacking ? (Armour applies to elemental damage)
Mix this helmet with Blackbraid Fur Plate and you ll have ur resistances "back"
I'm trying recoup on my blood witch while stacking life, I haven't tried pushing the hp pool really hard yet but this item could be fun for a magic find build (as you mentioned).
It's kind of a bummer that everything other than ES stacking is basically unusable towards late game. Need more sources of HP in the tree or a serious buff to armour ASAP.
Have you considered using witchhunters sorcery ward? Sorcery ward can add an extra 5k max hit for elemental with enough Armour/ev
If you could combine this with "armour applies to elemental damage" which I believe exists on a unique in PoE1 then I would see the appeal.
Blackbraid Fur Plate? Then just repeat the str stacking and get as much armor from shield and some ES from other stuff. With your over 8k hp at the end with regen nodes and %life regen runes, you can hit like 50% of your life as regen per second, so 4k permanent ES Regen, and no need to build any ele res or max res.
How do you get that little stash to the side of your inventory
Titan ascendancy
Curious if you could incorporate the Birth of Fury boots to your build, would make sense given you have so much hp.
take 4 times the damage just to have 1.5 times the health lol, maybe as infernalist with ES conversion to have ike 20K ES and a lot more spirit is usable lol
Yeah I pretty much found while levelling through campaign I'm completely unkillable, facetanking monkey slam in A3/6 etc. and getting into late white maps I'm now chunking big time to elemental damage, as expected. Fun test because the build is fun, useful item early on, not so good later on
@@dreamcore_gg Witchhunter Sorcery Ward! reroll? :)
Kind of, but you also win objectively better defence against non-elemental attacks and, more importantly, you gain the opportunity to replace resistance modifiers on your gear for whatever else. That's two to three slots per piece that you can use for another layer of defence, or more offence.
@@dreamcore_gg i wonder how powerful this item is if you play witch with the unique staff that reduces reservation cost by 50%. Like if you have 5000 hp, you would get 1250 spirit. the downside of no elementals might not matter for witch because you could in theory have 2 army summons where the minions tank everything for you.
I've been fiddling with Veil of the Night with a Witch hunter, using sorcery ward to help solve ele max hit could get up to 7-8k sorc ward, 75% block with allowing 20% damage through, using the evasion shield wheel. Its... fine. it's unfortunately straight up better to run atziri's disdain, defensively, but veil of the night is fun.
I considered WH but couldn't really figure out offence because I wanted to go more down the str/life stack route, maybe further into EA when more support is added for that kinda stuff
@@dreamcore_gg the offense i was going was just molten blast with blueflame gloves and herald of ice. nothing special. we need more one handed weapons before there's too much excitement you can do in the bottom of the tree that isnt herald of ice stuff.
How do you sustain your warcry not being a Warbringer?
I though that you will use it with Blackbraid.
Hard to get any meaningful amount of armour going when you get so little from both helm and body armour sadly
just need to run this with CI to have the build really cooking
Have tou considered using Doryanis Prototype to mitigate lightning damage with armour?
Use the Blackbraid chest armor have your armor value work for elemental damage taken.
932 strength is crazy
Very cheap to stack massive strength when you don't care about resists, every gear piece was no more than 1ex
Hey man, you forgot about the OP node on gemling that double star scaling
I wonder if sorcery ward witchhunter would make this more playable
I wonder if blackbraid could be used in conjunction with veil? I'd also imagine a gemling would be a better fit, getting double the life from strength stacking.
I used veil with the amour Blackbraid fur plate and block on a blood mage and it was actually incredibly tanky
What is this gameplay I am watching my man :o
Wouldn't this be great for a recoup+slow Chronomancer? (don't ask me about damage, I'm just thinking of defenses lol)
With the Roll being so high (50%) the Corruption value is very good also. you could prob get a very cheap 58% or higher
isnt that helmet to be used with the body armour that grants : elemental damage is applied to armour ?
isnt there a way to cheese that somehow ? like 25%armor applys to fire damage taken from hits for example and maybe beeing a infernalist on top for 20%light&cold damage taken as fire and than use armor to medigate all the fire damage for example and maybe more items/jewels or whatever to get more of the damage conversion to fire or chaos damage ?
isnt there a chest that applys armor to ele damage taken in poe2 ?? im pretty sure you could do somehting like that. also beeing a infernalist would enable some sick stuff with alot of life
Yeah you could do some fun stuff with infernalist for sure
Well, i can't tell what is your ascenedncy but i had a 8k health gemling "500 magic find" at about 1.4k str so if i was not going magic find i'd certainly see a use for this helmet, but ultimately this helmet is like "more tanky vs phys/chais, less vs ELE dmg"
you should be using a lvl 3 infernal cry + daze setup, hit the pack with IC then SC till full stacks then move on its a very smooth playstyle with both crys
I'm titan not warbringer, so daze does nothing, I don't want to heavy stun mobs to avoid cd on seismic, but I will try IC on larger packs
My first character I paired this with Blackbraid and it worked until the hits started to hit too hard.
I think chronomancer is the only viable ascendancy for this, maybe blood witch.
wouldn't it be pretty solid on chronomancer with recoup? If u invest all in life and reach like 8k life, + maybe block, then with recoup i guess u will take more dmg so heal more?
Could be interesting for converting the life to ES with ghostwrithe and then ES to mana to super charge archmage.
To add to this, I may give it a test as a gemling stacking str and int.
This only works in PoE 1 logic. In PoE 2 as soon as you convert the life to ES, it no longer scales off of %increased life
Ah right good call.
So it only shifts base life not maximum life?
@@colinmetzger6755 Not only that, you can't convert multiple times, so the ES from Ghostwrithe shouldn't get converted to mana, unless there's some kind of bug or something. (The base ES on the item would get converted to mana, but the life->ES should stay ES). Haven't tested it myself.
Kripparrian just posted a video on a Titan Warrior concept that flips life into energy shield, utilizing the Adamant Recovery node to turn armor buffs into ES regen, allowing it to rapidly refill its ES. And it can do it even in combat due to the shield blocking a lot of hits. Since it uses Ghostwrithe to get ES, which runs of hp, and the helmet you're using offers up hp...
That said, without resists, that ES is going to get chunked fast.
Considering conversion interactions, Ghostwrithe would convert life to ES BEFORE the 50% increased life from the helm would apply. Even if it did, you'd be getting an additional 25% of your HP as es (50% inc life X 50% life converted = 25%). Aztiris disdain helmet can give up to 30% of your life as additional ES without the resist downsides.
Not on a warbringer, the block can get you to survive 1 big hit and block the next one. I am testing this helmet with ghostwright and Svalin on warbringer totemer based on what Palsteron posted
@@steven3825 atziri's disdain is a very dangerous item as the % bypass of energy shield means that if you have a 1 to 5 life to energy shield ratio (up to 1 to 4 depending on the bypass percentage roll) you essentially die as fast as your energy shield does, and even if your shield recharges you are probably invested in something other than life regen, point is we really need GGG to fix armor as the amount of shenanigans that some classes have to go through just to not get one tapped is really bothersome.
I think witchunter would be a good choice for this kind of build. You get like 5k elemental ward from armour and evasion.
Right now on s normal life setup I have somewhere over 2600 life so you could scale both life and armor/evasion to get more elemental protection.
Not sure if you can stack enough strength to make it worth it.
I think you could get 5000 hp + 5000 ele ward on s budget. That's a little bit less from what I have now 75 rez 2600 life and 5000 ele ward. Lets say you wear s shield with 1k armour you would probably make up for everything snd have more ele protection than on a normal build. Yet your boss damsge would probably be 0
Why not run double andvarius gold rings?
crazy helmet 50% inc max life and fixed 80 all res
Peak seizure gameplay
How did you get the extra inventory space?
ascendacy node from titan
What id you combine this with sorcery ward from the Witch hunter?
Use Vaal orb on 3-socket gem and hope for a 4th socket for cheap?
One could live on the edge with 90% dodge and the 50%-chance to not die chest for this here :D If you get killed you are really unlucky
Not necessarily a meme. If you can get the same 7k health on Infernalist, that is another 300 spirit for a minion build, and nearly 1000 extra flat ES.
About map modifiers: Why GGG thinks 25% ele pen and/or -12% max res are ok mods to keep in the maps? It's litteraly brick mods that you must roll off or delete the map.
U should try on t15 so u can see the difference between two resistance and without resistance because at t15 mod hit hard like 5-3k in one hit
what about couture chest? it lets you overflow life but has low armour + eshield
Check out kripps build. You can convert your HP into es then scale es + es recharge rate. I wouldn't be surprised if you can get 20k es with 7k recovery
hmmm maybe this set up on a str/life stacking melee blood witch???
could it be vaaled up to 60%? feels like it gets closer and closer to worth using if you stack enough tech & investment
It can yes
Saw another guy with a gemlinger build having 8k hp.... i wonder what this helmet would do there 😂 insane haha
Howd you get that extra tab on your inventory? I WANT IT
Titan ascendancy.
@PanPrawda ohh
“Takes off veil of night has -130 all res, puts on veil of night has 8448 life and 1918 mana with 19% damage taken from mana before life and 300% MF from 3 items”
Hint its Andvarius x2 + ingenuity belt
Do I look like I can afford an ingenuity! Exalts don’t grow on trees you know
Man, I'm spoiled with spark and being able to clear fast. Probably not for long tho....
what is your source for the +1 curse application ty
Whispers of Doom
@@dreamcore_gg thank's
yeah you're still going to get wrecked as soon as you get in higher tier maps - especially with how maps are rolled.
I'm running a build with it on my second character (mine's corrupted to 60% extra health), I have little over 5k hp at lv 83 and I'm clearing T15s without many issues, in fact it's never elemental damage from a mob that puts a dent in me, it's always something else.
@@LennyMLGDorito interesting. do you run any/all map mods?
so far i've only been hit hard by chaos or physical damage on any of my characters (not using helm)
@@junk3996 I only truly avoid burning ground (though it's not impossible obviously, I just really dislike playing it) and I adjust playstyle for maps that say monster attacks have extra damage added as elemental but I get 78% block chance for the small hits and the big hits in this game are easy to dodge with 35% movespeed. Thankfully the helmet has no effect on your chaos resistance, else it would be garbage I think because like you said even with high chaos resistance you sometimes just get absolutely chunked by it. Btw "Monsters penetrate elemental resist" and "you have less elemental resist" modifiers are completely free for you because you don't have 0 resists, you just have none at all.