cedric and ada also tested 4116 and was surprised by its performance. there isn't necessarily a direct connection between cost of production and its value. some steels are inexpensive to produce but perform well above its pricepoint
Did you see the same video? Cedric proved that quite expensive knives from 4116 for like 50 bucks are overpriced loved and number of cuts is quite low. Cjrb, ruike, real steel, srm etc etc offer much better steel for similar or better price than cold steel. I made rope cut test on my D2 freetiger for 25 bucks and the result was pretty good for dirt cheap knife. 286 cuts. Carbon mora for like 10 bucks is even better.
Hello from Oklahoma! Good video! Been watching you for awhile. Good stuff!! Its funny how a hobby gets popular then it becomes snobbish. I've seen this a few times. I'm 61. When I was a kid we didn't really know what our knives were made from and that was ok. If it held an edge, it was a good knife. Now if you don't have this or that you are an idiot. well, I say to the snobs, You are the idiots for paying way to much for a name. We were just fine before all this nonsense. Thanks for all You do! God Bless!
I have a number of knives with steels from Case True Sharp to Magnacut. What I have found is this: if I use them, they get dull. I rarely subject any knife to very hard use or abuse, so I don't know how tough they are. But as far as edge retention, I really can't tell the difference between 8cr and S35 VN. It all cuts when sharp, and it all gets dull with use. I usually draw the line at AUS 8, but I don't stress too much about what steel the knife is.
8CR13MOV is a decent level quality budget steel, and it performs well. People are just ignorant, and people are just what's considered to be steel prejudice 🔪.
Have collected sporting knives & military fixed blades for 50 years, am 62 years old military veteran in my opinion all knives usage depends on the person and whatever steel is composed of is dependent upon not abusing the knife and each steel/metallurgy, blade design, overall functions are meant for certain reasonable applications in general, not for digging holes in the ground, cutting a fence for escape as a POW, slicing bread, as a poker for camp fire...etc; therefore buy or carry a few different types using either indoors or outdoors to EDC...I EDC 3 different knives and designs.
Properly heat treated 8cr14 steel is definitely better than 4116. Do proper test like cardboard on rope cuts counts if you want to compare. This is just your unprofessional unfounded assumptions.
4116 is equivalent of 5cr15 aka X50crmov15 which is steel used by victorinox. These steels are the lowest bottom of the knife steels chart. There is only one steel even worst, 3cr13 aka 420. Saying that is great steel is like saying best wood for making chairs is balsa wood. Yes, Germany can make great knife steel but that steel is made in Bohler-Uddeholm, not in Krupp.
cedric and ada also tested 4116 and was surprised by its performance. there isn't necessarily a direct connection between cost of production and its value. some steels are inexpensive to produce but perform well above its pricepoint
Did you see the same video? Cedric proved that quite expensive knives from 4116 for like 50 bucks are overpriced loved and number of cuts is quite low. Cjrb, ruike, real steel, srm etc etc offer much better steel for similar or better price than cold steel. I made rope cut test on my D2 freetiger for 25 bucks and the result was pretty good for dirt cheap knife. 286 cuts. Carbon mora for like 10 bucks is even better.
Hello from Oklahoma! Good video! Been watching you for awhile. Good stuff!! Its funny how a hobby gets popular then it becomes snobbish. I've seen this a few times. I'm 61. When I was a kid we didn't really know what our knives were made from and that was ok. If it held an edge, it was a good knife. Now if you don't have this or that you are an idiot. well, I say to the snobs, You are the idiots for paying way to much for a name. We were just fine before all this nonsense. Thanks for all You do! God Bless!
I have a number of knives with steels from Case True Sharp to Magnacut. What I have found is this: if I use them, they get dull. I rarely subject any knife to very hard use or abuse, so I don't know how tough they are. But as far as edge retention, I really can't tell the difference between 8cr and S35 VN. It all cuts when sharp, and it all gets dull with use. I usually draw the line at AUS 8, but I don't stress too much about what steel the knife is.
8CR13MOV is a decent level quality budget steel, and it performs well.
People are just ignorant, and people are just what's considered to be steel prejudice 🔪.
Also you can get some cool custom designs for a fraction of what the super steel cost.
Have collected sporting knives & military fixed blades for 50 years, am 62 years old military veteran in my opinion all knives usage depends on the person and whatever steel is composed of is dependent upon not abusing the knife and each steel/metallurgy, blade design, overall functions are meant for certain reasonable applications in general, not for digging holes in the ground, cutting a fence for escape as a POW, slicing bread, as a poker for camp fire...etc; therefore buy or carry a few different types using either indoors or outdoors to EDC...I EDC 3 different knives and designs.
Properly heat treated 8cr14 steel is definitely better than 4116. Do proper test like cardboard on rope cuts counts if you want to compare. This is just your unprofessional unfounded assumptions.
Great job.
How about aus8?
That is one thick Hungarian accent :)
I could be wrong but its my understanding that the Victorinox blades are 4116
You're not
Close enough. It is 1.4110
I like 4116 stainless steel.
4116 is equivalent of 5cr15 aka X50crmov15 which is steel used by victorinox. These steels are the lowest bottom of the knife steels chart. There is only one steel even worst, 3cr13 aka 420. Saying that is great steel is like saying best wood for making chairs is balsa wood. Yes, Germany can make great knife steel but that steel is made in Bohler-Uddeholm, not in Krupp.
Thanks for taking the time to put this video together 👍🏻
Never though or never will call 8cr13 a junk steel that's for sure. And Victorinox is definitely not running a better steel lol.